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« on: May 28, 2013, 01:50:37 AM »

Early on day two of 50euro french comp. Itm. Villain is a Winamax Pro, but no reads. Have him at 10/10/6 over 250 hands. He has 18bbs, we have like 24.

Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: youpyx (251576)
Seat 2: play for win (204540)
Seat 3: Sr Croissant (186324)
Seat 4: yack65 (58177)
Seat 5: L33T31 (422661)
Seat 6: sach155 (191489)
Seat 7: PkrRulzz (203078)
Seat 8: O RLY (140762)
Seat 9: tamir2000 (190938)
*** ANTE/BLINDS ***
sach155 posts ante 950
PkrRulzz posts ante 950
youpyx posts ante 950
play for win posts ante 950
Sr Croissant posts ante 950
yack65 posts ante 950
L33T31 posts ante 950
O RLY posts ante 950
tamir2000 posts ante 950
sach155 posts small blind 4000
PkrRulzz posts big blind 8000
Dealt to Sr Croissant [ As]
*** PRE-FLOP ***
O RLY raises 8000 to 16000
tamir2000 folds
youpyx folds
play for win folds
Sr Croissant?
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 01:56:06 AM »

Would check his UTG open stat in case he's a guy that likes to open UTG a lot but as standard/readless I think fold is best
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 02:07:22 AM »

U think 250hands is enough to make a read on his utg open stats? Will be like 35 instances...
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 02:09:33 AM »

No probably not, but just posting 'yeah fold, standard' seemed a bit...lame
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 07:59:41 AM »

How widely would you expect him/random/random €50 player to:

a) call a shove; or
b) shove over a 3bet?

Is part of your decision that he might be the (second) best player at the table and there are better spots? Are you too short for that to be a factor?
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 08:51:20 AM »

I think its Gaelle Baumaan or however u spell it. I don't know how good/bad she is at all so no reads on that front, however 10/10/6 is very tight and 250 hands is enough of a sample in mtt's to make a decentish judgement in a spot like this. Im pretty happy with folding, or 3b/folding not sure which one i prefer, actually think 3b/f is kinda sexy but I think I just fold as I think shes gona go with too much of her tight range (think 3b/c is pretty bad vs these stats in this spot)
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 08:58:19 AM »

How widely would you expect him/random/random €50 player to:

a) call a shove; or
b) shove over a 3bet?

Is part of your decision that he might be the (second) best player at the table and there are better spots? Are you too short for that to be a factor?

I think the 2 questions you asked are gona be pretty much the same range for a "professional" I expect her opening range to be something like 99+ AQ+ and I expect her to go with nearly all of it vs any aggression.

In a soft frenchament even only being 20-25bb deep there will almost certainly be better spots than this one imo
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 09:01:23 AM »

How widely would you expect him/random/random €50 player to:

a) call a shove; or
b) shove over a 3bet?

Is part of your decision that he might be the (second) best player at the table and there are better spots? Are you too short for that to be a factor?

I think the 2 questions you asked are gona be pretty much the same range for a "professional" I expect her opening range to be something like 99+ AQ+ and I expect her to go with nearly all of it vs any aggression.

In a soft frenchament even only being 20-25bb deep there will almost certainly be better spots than this one imo

Thanks very much
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 09:41:51 AM »

I think folding is acceptable in this spot. I do also like clicking it back.

How do people feel about calling IP? Obviously the shorty next to act can make this difficult for us by reopening the action.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 11:12:40 AM »

I really hate any size 3b, don't hate calling but I generally just fold here.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 11:56:49 AM »

folding seems fine.

also think 3b/fold could be fine if we think she'll peel some stuff like 99, tt - she prolly won't though Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 12:32:38 PM »

18bbs just feels waaaay too short to be 3b/folding anything.
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 01:21:05 PM »

We have 24bb. Villian has 18bb
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 01:39:35 PM »

We have 24bb. Villian has 18bb

what difference?
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 01:40:51 PM »

We have 24bb. Villian has 18bb

what difference?

about 6? I think  Grin
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