AmayaStars

[Ironside]

i dont want to hear a bad word about pokerstars i love there promos

[TightEnd]

From Tuesday, December 16th, players will earn 8 Full Tilt Points per $1 raked for all ring games and tournaments.

down from 10, a 20% reduction

[Rexas]

From Tuesday, December 16th, players will earn 8 Full Tilt Points per $1 raked for all ring games and tournaments.

down from 10, a 20% reduction

Full tilt points? Assume its staying the same on stars for the time being?

[teddybloat]

the rake on HU hyper SNG's has been reverted back to the previous,  lower,  levels. so price hike reverted.

no word on why, but it has not been done in error and unless it is an unannounced short term promio may be a long term change

stars had offered hyper players a % of rake back if they played the same player 50 times in a calender month, this was done in resonse to the divisions [cartels] taking alll their qualifying games onto other sites for a week after the rake increase. effectively this meant all reg-warring was taken off stars and onto competitor's sites and the mid-high stakes lobbies were noticably quieter that week.

early to say but maybe a bit of player power won out here as the rake increases - at least for now - have been reversed for hyper HUSNGers

[rfgqqabc]

Turns out making games unbeatable will not encourage people to play. Shock.

[teddybloat]

yeah the reg v reg games became bad, but still not unbeatable.

i know of a few players battling their way into divisions as high as $300's and killing the best regs for $$$ even with the rake increases.

edges v recs were still pretty big after the rake increases - the games post-rake-hike,  for HUSNG's at least, were FAR from unbeatable.

one of the reasons HU hypers were targetted for rake increases imo was because of how profitable they were - even [or espescially] at higher stakes. hundreds of thousands in profits for a lot of regs. my guess was that amaya felt that the regs could afford to give up some more in rake. they were probably right too.

very strange that they have seemed to reverse the increase, guess we will find out why soon.

[teddybloat]

HU Cap cash rake back to old lower rate too

another set of players that went on strike...

[Magic817]

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/en/blog/corporate_blog/2015/2015-rake-rollback-153140.shtml

[tikay]

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/en/blog/corporate_blog/2015/2015-rake-rollback-153140.shtml

Matt - check your PM's please. (Unrelated to this thread).

[ActionDanS]

Amazing news! Very surprising also.

Any indication that they're gonna do a U-turn on the raked rebuys thing?

Haven't seen that as yet....

[TightEnd]

an indication of where they are looking

"PokerStars signs first Team Pros from India and Japan. http://psta.rs/1xAfQDs"

[teddybloat]

People power.

[Gazza]

People power.

The power of data

[Whollyflush]

People power.

The power of data

Data that suggests people are playing these games less and its not in amaya's interests to make less money???

[teddybloat]

Well played the players imo. They voted with their feet, organised action, made constructive forum posts and got the result they wanted.

Tonnes of hyper reg wars got shifted off stars, lots of hu cap regs stopped starting games / blocked lobbies.

Ultimately either amaya made less post rake hike than before or the publicity / loss of rep was too much to bear. Probably a combo of both. All that was due to players response to the rake increase.