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[outragous76]

lol....Brown has just chucked in his last chip, holding 7 2 off. Clegg has ave chips, gone off on a break, and Cameron, chip leader holding KK, is going to call.

and i would love to see the board run 772 k............ 7

i cant understand why Cameron thinks he can just talk his way into power and the media are with it

we have a first past the post system, you didnt get there - now quiten down and let the prime minister attempt to form a government pls - wait your fucking turn - thats what should be happening

it ironic that the party who dismisss PR now really want to rely on it - please settle down in the blue corner

They've got the most seats and the most votes,

[  ] this matters under our constitution

i am aware of what brown said. He IMO, is taking one last gamble. He knows that if COn's cant agree anything with Lib Dem, they arent getting in. He sees their policies as being so far apart that it is worth a punt. Shit or bust of you will

You said you couldn't understand how he expected to just talk his way into power, I was pointing out that there was a bit more to it than that.

Technically under our constitution Brown is now able to look into forming a government, but he has said that all the parties can take part in discussions with this aim.

If the Conservatives and the Lib Dems come to a workable agreement Brown will resign and Cameron will form the next government - not because he has to, but because he should do; and that is what really matters under our constitution.

thanks for pointing that out,  

i am well aware of what will happen, brown has been gracious from start to finish, Cameron is just showing what a power hungry freak he is.

I think that there are enough Lib Dems who are anti tory for it not to work, and I dont see clegg having a personal agenda for power like cameron and therefore i hope he will only doing something which is right the country and/or his party

[Jon MW]

I still don't quite understand.

The Conservatives have the most seats and the most votes, why do you think they shouldn't form a government?

[Rod Paradise]

I still don't quite understand.

The Conservatives have the most seats and the most votes, why do you think they shouldn't form a government?

Because it's not a majority?
Because that's the rules they are most strongly in support of?

[Jon MW]

I still don't quite understand.

The Conservatives have the most seats and the most votes, why do you think they shouldn't form a government?

Because it's not a majority?
Because that's the rules they are most strongly in support of?

Ok I should have said why shouldn't they 'try' to form a government?

Because outrageous seems to be suggesting that they're acting badly in even considering the idea that they should be in charge next.

[outragous76]

I still don't quite understand.

The Conservatives have the most seats and the most votes, why do you think they shouldn't form a government?

because until they are invited to do so they have no right to do so

OK - so brown has told them he is happy to see if LD and Con can form a working majority.............. and at that point I refer you to my previous comments

why DO you think that a party without a majority should walk into government?

are you aware of how totally unsustainable it will be? That is why we have a majority based system

[Josedinho]

You can't say "Brown told him to do so" but then expect that he shouldn't just because Brown only said it because it;s the last throw of his dice.
Brown invited them to do so, so they are. Simples.

[gatso]

Wouldn't LibLab still be a minority government though?

yeah. even with the sdlp mob in tow they're short

[outragous76]

You can't say "Brown told him to do so" but then expect that he shouldn't just because Brown only said it because it;s the last throw of his dice.
Brown invited them to do so, so they are. Simples.

i didnt say brown told them anything....................... other than he was happy that they tried

they are, they will hopefully fail and the silver spooned tw@t will crawl back into his mansion for a while

VInce cable needs to come up trumps here as he is about as polar opposite from tory as a Lib Dem will ever get

[Jon MW]

I still don't quite understand.

The Conservatives have the most seats and the most votes, why do you think they shouldn't form a government?

because until they are invited to do so they have no right to do so

OK - so brown has told them he is happy to see if LD and Con can form a working majority.............. and at that point I refer you to my previous comments

why DO you think that a party without a majority should walk into government?

are you aware of how totally unsustainable it will be? That is why we have a majority based system

"why DO you think that a party without a majority should walk into government?"  - where does that come from?

They've been talking about working with the Lib Dems, and they could try doing it with an informal case by case basis with a minority government, and it's all been done after the Lib Dems said the Conservatives should have a try and after Gordon Brown said the Conservatives should have a try.

The consensus amongst the analysts is that all three leaders have handled it pretty well, so I think it might show more about your preconceived ideas colouring your view of the situation then anything that's actually happening.

The next government won't serve a full term, but ruling with a minority is far from catastrophic whilst work needs to be done on the economy, it's only after that where real policy differences on less urgent matters come into play that another election will have to be called to give a single party a mandate.

[Bongo]

VInce cable needs to come up trumps here as he is about as polar opposite from tory as a Lib Dem will ever get

A self publicising flip flopper?

[Jon MW]

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they are, they will hopefully fail and the silver spooned tw@t will crawl back into his mansion for a while
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yes, good objective political judgement - I'm sure that couldn't possibly prejudice your view

[TightEnd]

because until they are invited to do so they have no right to do so

what are you talking about? Clegg insisted this morning on talking to Cameron first (clearly he has the most legitimacy), Cameron is making an offer and then we'll see if the Libdems go for it and on what basis

Once the hung parliament civil service framework has been implemented any party can talk to any other, Brown stays prime minister until a resolution is reached

[Bongo]

Guido Fawkes seems to think a Lib/Con pact and electoral reform could banish Labour from government for ever:

http://order-order.com/2010/05/07/the-change-coalition-part-iii/

It's round about here I get confused by what the lid dems are about. The liberal side seems to fit with the tories but the socialists side with Labour.

[outragous76]

I still don't quite understand.

The Conservatives have the most seats and the most votes, why do you think they shouldn't form a government?

because until they are invited to do so they have no right to do so

OK - so brown has told them he is happy to see if LD and Con can form a working majority.............. and at that point I refer you to my previous comments

why DO you think that a party without a majority should walk into government?

are you aware of how totally unsustainable it will be? That is why we have a majority based system

The next government won't serve a full term, but ruling with a minority is far from catastrophic whilst work needs to be done on the economy, it's only after that where real policy differences on less urgent matters come into play that another election will have to be called to give a single party a mandate.

 

gg me listening to anymroe points you have

ok - first vote on important changes in a minority led tory govt

spending cuts immediately (their policy)

vote in house of commons fails as it isnt lib dem or labour policy

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - do you envisage any problems with your plan?

Cameron is in it for himself - not the country - that is why i dislike him as an individual

I can assure you that financially, personally I would be MUCH better off under a tory govt, however, i have a social concience too, which outweighs my perosnal gain on the whole.

i have no problem telling people that i dislike cameron, why i dislike him, my reasons for it, and why i think like that

[Rod Paradise]

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they are, they will hopefully fail and the silver spooned tw@t will crawl back into his mansion for a while
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yes, good objective political judgement - I'm sure that couldn't possibly prejudice your view

He's got a point - what in Cameron's past qualifies him to run anything?