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Title: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: tikay on June 26, 2006, 11:05:42 PM

Firstly, apologies that we were forced to abandon our Day Three Live Update from The Vic, but as you know, we had server prpblems.

Now. "Lite" Update, or "Full-Fat". (Or as Andrew T christened them, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes".)

We ran a little experiment on Day One, as some folks don't like all the "clutter" in the Traditional blonde Live Update, they prefer a pure "facts only" Update, upon which blondes cannot interact. Nothing wrong with that, each to their own, & the "Lite" Update does enable Members to get to the Results quicker, sometimes wading through 30 pages of Updates (in a single day) can be daunting, & time consuming. So we did a "normal" Update, and a "Facts Only" Update, upon which blondes could not Post.

So, a few questions for you.

Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Ironside on June 26, 2006, 11:12:49 PM
tony is it possbile to do a meat without the tatties update on the main site with photos?

and a full fat tatties and all update along side on the forum


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: byronkincaid on June 26, 2006, 11:15:45 PM
could you do video clips of interviews and stuff?


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 26, 2006, 11:21:45 PM
I like the idea of the lite updates, it is a great reference point if you are looking in quickly I would suggest no pictures with these.

I also enjoy the banter on a full fat update when its been done and when I am sat at the computer for the day its great to join in so I am a definite fan of the dual updates.

I think it would be grand if we could even get a player column and Blonde could get a player from the event to give us their thoughts on how the day was going, even if this was only updated at breaks.

Regards a name how about the nuts for the quick update and stone cold nuts for the full fat version??



Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Royal Flush on June 26, 2006, 11:44:09 PM
So, a few questions for you.

Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

Yes please!

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

No thankyou!

Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

Whats wrong with full update and lite update?

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?

See 5.

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.

Interviews with some of the key players, ideally video interviews. Also an update page detailing the progress of blondites. By which i mean a list of names with thier current stacks or the word OUT next to them, constantly updated through the comps.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Sark79 on June 26, 2006, 11:48:01 PM
I like pics.  This approach worked for Paul Daniels when he was first breaking into magic.  Pics are fantastic as they get people involved in the action that aren't there.  This coupled with the detailed reports make me feel a part of the action. I even sit at home wearing a sun visor cap, i-pod and have a tangerine placed infront of my mountain of chips.  Check...Calll... nice hand


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: RED-DOG on June 27, 2006, 12:14:37 AM
Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

Yes, but they should be 'Bare bones' i.e. Mr X out. 37 players remaining

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

No

Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

'At a glance' / 'Live and interactive'

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?

Always more

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.

I think it would be good if you could get the players to comment more, ask if they have any thoughts, a quote, or a message for the viewers.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Newmanseye on June 27, 2006, 12:51:11 AM
Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

Yes, great way to quickly find out whats happeing without trawling through the entire full fat thread

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

No, Thats what the main update is for

Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

 I cant best what Red has suggested, its a perfect fit. IMHO

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?

more

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.

Guest updaters from around the country, Always more norkage, Perhaps analsys of play and performance from Tikay or Jen ( snoops if we are really stuck, if we cant get colchester Kev that is)

Perhaps a predict a winner competion, or guess the final table, run with a sponser in mind to promote the product, Say if its a poker room, then, $15 in a sporting odd, blonde poker, blue square account. Or packs of cards, t shirts that sort of thing.

I think it may help to get more people to sign up as well, a cheap incentive to incresase the numbers without neglecting the long term blondites.




Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: snoopy1239 on June 27, 2006, 01:21:45 AM
Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

yes


Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

no


A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

Live update and Lite Update?


Do you want more or less, Pictures?


fine as they are

If you have any othr suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.


I think we should have on page 1 of the lite update a list of all the blondes and their current chip count.
Podcasts with exit/pre-match/break etc interviews.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: snoopy1239 on June 27, 2006, 01:22:27 AM
could you do video clips of interviews and stuff?

This is definitely a possibility for the future and something that I have mentioned more than once, especially with the rise of Podcasts.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: AndrewT on June 27, 2006, 09:59:09 AM
As much as it pains me to kill my children, Red's naming suggestions are a bit better than mine. Also, I realised that I missed the opportunity to do a 'chips' pun.

When it comes to the photos, there should obviously be as many as we can get, provided there's no risk of them slowing the board down.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: matt674 on June 27, 2006, 10:16:54 AM
Also, I realised that I missed the opportunity to do a 'chips' pun.

<a href="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZBYYYYYYYYGB" target="_blank">[img width= height= alt=Duh" border="0]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_1.gif[/img][/url]

Also why you change your signature? I stood more chance of winning when it was 200 people and one pokerstars monkey - now I've got to beat 1000 :'(


Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

If its isn't too much trouble to the updaters to just copy over the important info to another thread then I'd like to see both

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

No - hence the title "facts only"

Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

Reddog's suggestion seems ok to me :)up

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?

Don't mind - the chances of you capturing a good looking lady monkey at the poker table are about the same as me winning this years main event!!

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.

Just as all programs have "co-commentators" to help facilitate the burden of the normal commentator - usually being someone who is an actual poker player to give some added insights to the commentary maybe if Blonde could get a "guest updater" at some of the big events, maybe one of the big name players who has already busted from the tournament and they could provide so added insights to some of the key hands.

Threads for instance by Harry D and Peter Costa stick in the mind and having them give their take on how some of the key hands of the tournament have been played would be good.



Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: charmaine on June 27, 2006, 10:19:34 AM
Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?
Definitely , for those not liking the banter and just want the pure poker.
Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?
No need if they're on the other update.
Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!
Your original names were good.
Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?
More pics please .
Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say
None , think you all do a great job.

There's my Penny's worth  :)


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: matt674 on June 27, 2006, 10:26:43 AM
p.s. my last suggestion was not monkey saying that the skill levels of the current updaters is not of a high enough standard, before i move up three places on the Beagles hit list and get scrubbed off Jen's christmas card list!!

In case anyone were to read that last suggestion the wrong way!!


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2006, 10:51:22 AM
p.s. my last suggestion was not monkey saying that the skill levels of the current updaters is not of a high enough standard, before i move up three places on the Beagles hit list and get scrubbed off Jen's christmas card list!!

In case anyone were to read that last suggestion the wrong way!!

Keep digging.....


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: matt674 on June 27, 2006, 10:57:25 AM
Can't, i already broke my shovel due to overuse :(

Having read some of Harry and Peters takes on hand analysis, would be good if some of the key hands could be commented on (be it good play or bad) rather than just having the basic

"Joe Bloggs knocks out matey boy - on a  3c 4d 9c flop Joe calls matey boys all in bet with  9h 9s while matey boy's  Ac Kc receives no further help"

I know that the updaters have enough to do as it is - hence the help of "special guest co-updaters" to do a bit of detailed hand analysis :)


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: AndrewT on June 27, 2006, 11:17:14 AM
Also, I realised that I missed the opportunity to do a 'chips' pun.

<a href="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZBYYYYYYYYGB" target="_blank">[img width= height= alt=Duh" border="0]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_1.gif[/img][/url]

Also why you change your signature? I stood more chance of winning when it was 200 people and one pokerstars monkey - now I've got to beat 1000 :'(

Sadly that's how many Pokerstars people have already qualified - 1074 (plus one monkey) and rising...


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Tonji on June 27, 2006, 11:19:51 AM
Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

Certainly

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

Nope


Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

Red's idea seems the top runner

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?

More. I know its difficult getting clear photos without using the flash, but if the budget stretches to a good camera & lens, that will make a difference.

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.

You guys are doing a great job, but maybe More interviews....& Boker of the day prize :D


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: matt674 on June 27, 2006, 11:22:30 AM
Sadly that's how many Pokerstars people have already qualified - 1074 (plus one monkey) and rising...

I know but i was hoping that none of the recent qualifiers would turn up - if there were 200 of us then i'd have a 1000-1 chance of winning........

Now i've got a constant reminder that there are more than 1000 so my odds are about 500000-1 :(

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.

You guys are doing a great job, but maybe More interviews....& Boker of the day prize :D

No point for the last suggestion - NoFlopsHomer would win it every week!! ::)


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Acidmouse on June 27, 2006, 11:41:36 AM
I would like two separate threads for the live updates. A detailed one with pics and one just for chip counts and player numbers.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: ifm on June 27, 2006, 03:25:58 PM
Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update?

Yes, great way to quickly find out whats happeing without trawling through the entire full fat thread

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?

No, Thats what the main update is for

Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!

 I cant best what Red has suggested, its a perfect fit. IMHO

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?

more

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.

Guest updaters from around the country, Always more norkage, Perhaps analsys of play and performance from Tikay or Jen ( snoops if we are really stuck, if we cant get colchester Kev that is)

Perhaps a predict a winner competion, or guess the final table, run with a sponser in mind to promote the product, Say if its a poker room, then, $15 in a sporting odd, blonde poker, blue square account. Or packs of cards, t shirts that sort of thing.

I think it may help to get more people to sign up as well, a cheap incentive to incresase the numbers without neglecting the long term blondites.


 :goodpost: ;iagree;


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Djinn on June 27, 2006, 05:23:39 PM
Hi all and thanks very much for taking the time to help tikay out.  And me.  And Snoops.

It is very interesting, what you've suggested about the Live Updates - I honestly had no idea that people were actually interested in our wittering about hand analysis rather than just getting the News - will do our best to start some arguments discussions about play next time round!

Also, I like the idea of little video feeds, player interviews etc.  The technology eludes me now, but how hard can it be...if Snoopy thinks it's possible, it's definitely possible.

It's no bother at all to run an at-a-glance parallel update - what do you think about putting links to the pictures in them (like that trial run) rather than pics themselves?  I reckon it might even absorb those non-chatters into the atmosphere of the 'full fat' live update by accident...

Thanks again, look forward to reporting for blonde soon.



Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2006, 05:31:06 PM
Hi all and thanks very much for taking the time to help tikay out.  And me.  And Snoops.

It is very interesting, what you've suggested about the Live Updates - I honestly had no idea that people were actually interested in our wittering about hand analysis rather than just getting the News - will do our best to start some arguments discussions about play next time round!

Also, I like the idea of little video feeds, player interviews etc.  The technology eludes me now, but how hard can it be...if Snoopy thinks it's possible, it's definitely possible.

It's no bother at all to run an at-a-glance parallel update - what do you think about putting links to the pictures in them (like that trial run) rather than pics themselves?  I reckon it might even absorb those non-chatters into the atmosphere of the 'full fat' live update by accident...

Thanks again, look forward to reporting for blonde soon.



But not this weekend at Bolton - it's Jen's BIRTHDAY PARTY!

So we will have to cope without her.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: RED-DOG on June 27, 2006, 05:34:25 PM
I knew this would come in handy

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=8544.0


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Djinn on June 27, 2006, 06:03:38 PM
Many thanks for that (again) Mr. RED-DOG!

My birthday is actually the 7th July, but my alterego Danafish and I will be sitting in a pub in North London on the night of Saturday July 1st  - anyone in the Hampstead area welcome to come drink things with a bizarre collection of poker and non-poker related friendly people. 

Yes, after the technical hitches of the Vic, I wish Snoopy plain sailing through the delights of Bolton.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Royal Flush on June 27, 2006, 09:53:48 PM
Many thanks for that (again) Mr. RED-DOG!

My birthday is actually the 7th July, but my alterego Danafish and I will be sitting in a pub in North London on the night of Saturday July 1st  - anyone in the Hampstead area welcome to come drink things with a bizarre collection of poker and non-poker related friendly people. 

Yes, after the technical hitches of the Vic, I wish Snoopy plain sailing through the delights of Bolton.


I got your text Jen about your Birthday but i will be in Bolton :( have a good night!


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2006, 10:06:37 PM
Many thanks for that (again) Mr. RED-DOG!

My birthday is actually the 7th July, but my alterego Danafish and I will be sitting in a pub in North London on the night of Saturday July 1st  - anyone in the Hampstead area welcome to come drink things with a bizarre collection of poker and non-poker related friendly people. 

Yes, after the technical hitches of the Vic, I wish Snoopy plain sailing through the delights of Bolton.


I got your text Jen about your Birthday but i will be in Bolton :( have a good night!

You think Jen choosing Saturday was an accident?......


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Royal Flush on June 27, 2006, 10:15:58 PM
Many thanks for that (again) Mr. RED-DOG!

My birthday is actually the 7th July, but my alterego Danafish and I will be sitting in a pub in North London on the night of Saturday July 1st  - anyone in the Hampstead area welcome to come drink things with a bizarre collection of poker and non-poker related friendly people. 

Yes, after the technical hitches of the Vic, I wish Snoopy plain sailing through the delights of Bolton.


I got your text Jen about your Birthday but i will be in Bolton :( have a good night!

You think Jen choosing Saturday was an accident?......

Git


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Dewi_cool on June 27, 2006, 10:23:08 PM
Jen, Birthday in Dublin then?


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2006, 10:27:54 PM
Jen, Birthday in Dublin then?


Yes, I guess so.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: booder on June 27, 2006, 10:37:06 PM
Jen, Birthday in Dublin then?


aaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Royal Flush on June 28, 2006, 04:09:21 AM
Oh yeah just realised 7th is the Friday.

On the topic of Dublin, expect the final 2 names to be released any moment now, infact one of them posted in this thread!


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: Nem on June 28, 2006, 07:07:59 PM

Question 1.

Should we continue with this "Dual" Update? Yes

Question 2

Should the "facts only" Update contain Pics?No

Question 3

A name to distinguish the two? Sadly, "Meat" or "Meat & Potatoes" is hardly likely to appeal to a potential sponsor!Facts only

Question 4

Do you want more or less, Pictures?More

Question 5.

If you have any other suggestions to improve our Updates, please say.More upadaters and more updates from around the world.


Title: Re: blonde needs your help with the Live Updates.
Post by: tikay on July 01, 2006, 11:10:59 AM
We will be running a Live Update from Bolton this weekend, & continuing with the Parallel Update experiment, & we will try to embody some of your suggestions.