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Okay, heres the brief story (i posted a rant on my blog with a bigger story)

Macdonalds today, I leave my wallet behind. Now, the girl behind the counter picks it up an puts it away. A guy who was served after me said to the girl "give us that wallet, i know him i'll pass it to him outside". So, the girl hands it over without question.

I realised a little later on and went to the counter to get it, an the girl says "was it the one with the driving licence in? I gave it to a guy who said he knew you". So why didnt she ask the man what my name was! She saw the licence so she could easy check. Plus, she saw me sitting down to eat.

I spoke to the manager who is getting the CCTV for the police etc, and I have my crime reference number. But I cant help but feel that I would rather have just left it on a table rather than their stupid staff giving it away!

Anyway, my point is, does a lawyer think theres a case here maybe to sue? I know we have a few around... I had personal details in the wallet, plus cash and bank cards and its the hassle of getting it all back.

bad luck mate ,  hope you get it back

Its my own fault and I know that, Im a careless bugger - but I cant help but get really angry at that stupid girl... ive never heard the like! And the manager was a bit rude n all, appologising but saying you cant blame her shes new.

To top it off the fries where cold lol.

A couple of people mentioned suing or at least wrting them a letter but ive never done that before so im not sure how to do it or the costs.

Sue her? she works at mcdonalds! you might get a fiver!

we live in Scotland mickey. we dont sue young ladies who work in mackie dees!! :)

lol.  They always are.  At least you can laugh about it. 

I would just write a letter and ask for an apology, you might get a lifetime pass for free Big Mac's

to be honest it wouldn't even cross my mind to sue over this!  Good luck if you pursue it though.

excellent idea

What you gonna do? Sue for whatever cash you had in your wallet? £50?
It's not worth the stress.

The girl made a mistake yes, but your error in leaving the wallet behind was the bigger mistake.

If you get the lifetime pass, In ten years time, you could make a TV show about your addiction to Big Mac's.  You might have a case for suing then. You can claim that your addiction was a result of the girl giving away your walllet. If that hadn't happened, you wouldn't be addicted to Big Mac's, your health would be better and the overall stress that you have experienced because of the whole ordeal would never have happened.  You could start off a whole new career as a Government health adviser traveling around the country advising others not to take the same path you did. 

Good plan?

To be fair the standard procedure in Mcdonalds was to place any forgotten wallets, purses ect in to the cashiers office, That way they get locked in the safe and can be collected by the owner.  What the girl did was wrong, and it would be the company at fault not the employee, the company would be held responsible.

yes the girl could say she was so stressed about the whole thing she was going to sue. she had no training on lost property and mcD's have failed in their duty as an employer?? :)

I agree, get a good lawyer and get the girl in at the same time, you sue for negligence and then once you win with supporting testimony, she sues for stress and you take a cut :-]

Its win win!

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ive not laughed so much in ages  :cheers: :)up

Now how do we spin this to get the forum members paid aswell??

I can't see that they are responsible for lost property and the employee appears to have acted in good faith.
Legally I don't see any case here.
However, if you feel that strongly about it I would write a letter of complaint to them. No idea what their stance would be, but many companies would want to reach some sort of agreement rather than have reputational damage. Might get a Happy meal out of it. :D

 :D

how about 10 of us pair up and hit 5 McDonalds at a time with gryffs old 'wallet' scam and bring home the bacon. robert can take all the cases and i get commission for coming up with the idea. ok newmanseye, you can get a cut since you came up with it  ;)

And tell em there was 4k in the wallet

Mikky
Dont know if you know this but if you lose your wallet in town,it is covered on most peoples house insurence.

I only know this as my husband once lost his wallet in town,they not only paid out for the money lost, they also paid out for a new wallet too.

Shelly xx

Why stop at Mcdonalds, BK, KFC Pizza Hut, Gala casinos even, Let me get some legal advice before we start...


ROBERT!!!!!!!!

:D

even if you did "sue" , you can only lodge a claim for material losses and a portion for stress, inconvenience, etc etc.

you might get a few hundered quid, and the girl would probably lose her job. hardly seems worth it.

Complain to McD's, see what happens. Don't even think of going to court.

I find it funny what Billy was saying about how it all goes to the cashier. If he was actually your m8 there and the person said know i have to stick it in this safe then you would be complaining about bureaucracy, you lost your wallet, simple as.

No, sue macdonalds for employing stupid dolts. Ive seen people getting pay outs for far far far less. And Im not suing for material loss.... Im suing for the stress and trauma caused by a thief gaining access to my personal information such as address and now I live in fear of having a break-in, or worse, my identity being cloned.

And mad, this was in Birkenhead, Merseyside, England... not scotland. I would have expected such behaviour in scotland  ;goodvevil;

Nobody wants to go to court. An out of court settlement for employing thickos will do me!

LOL, It's hardly fair to call this girl a 'stupid dolt', ok, she was foolish and naive, but it was YOU that left you wallet there in the first place! (pot calling the kettle black?)

Did you leave your keys there also? as I see no reason to be worried that this guy now knows your address....

I hope you are joking about a settlement, either in or out of court. IMO too many people are looking for a quick buck in this way now, and the people that truly deserve compensation get overlooked/undercompensated for genuine claims due to 'issues' like this one.

Realistically it's not worth the hassle! Firstly (I'm certain you have already) ensure all cards etc. are cancelled, then send a fuming letter to McDs blagging the threat of legal action and fully explaining the situation. More than likely their "corporate policy" will be to please you and they will offer free food/minimum compensation. IMHO its not worth getting serious and hiring lawyers over this. Live and learn! I would, however, be interetsed to hear the opinions of those who are actually in the know!

it's very easy to say with hindsight that this girl acted stupidly, but in that moment, I don't think her actions were that different from what many people would have done.  I hope she doesn't lose her job.

I don't see why you think you have a case. YOU left your wallet unattended it's YOUR fault. She did nothing wrong and acted in good faith. She was conned pure and simple. All MCD have to do is prove they have a policy about lost property and prove she was trained properly and they're in the clear. And she has no money to sue for.
I don't understand the blame culture at all. Accept that it was down to you making a mistake.

and leave the poor girl alone!

Darn tootin, poor lass works hard for a living. She was only trying to do the right thing.

She's got real shit to get through, don't need that stress.

Losing a wallet or keys is a real nightmare.

Last year when coming back from Kenya, After we had checked all of our luggage in, someone broke into one of our suitcases and nicked all of the booze and a portable DVD player.

We tried to claim on the travel insurance but their stance was that it was no longer in our care and therefore we couldn't claim.
We tried the airline but they didn't want to know.
Household insurance said to try and claim on the travel insurance.

No one would take our case (just the contents) so I don't know that you stand much of a chance.

yes...because you lose a glorious career when you are sacked by MacD's....hell the only job you can get is gas station attendant....or handing out leaflets in city centre.

I'm sure she'll be devestated she can't flip burgers for the rest of her life but I reckon she'll life with it.

but to think you can actually sue her over this...*tssskkk*...whatever happened to people taking responsibility for their own stupidity?

And what's a grown man doing in macdonalds anyways?...you should know better...it's the most revolting "food" you can possibly get and only 14YO's should be allowed to eat there.


everything about macdonalds is evil (Ronald is just satan with his face painted)

Well isn't it nice to be in a position to make comments like this?!

I don't know what the job market is like nowadays as I have been in the same job for a number of years.  However, when I left school it took me an age to find employment - couldn't even get an interview to stack shelves at a supermarket!  I ended up taking a job which paid even lower than McD's but it got me a rung on the ladder. 

I don't think it is right to suggest that getting sacked from any job could not be considered a bad thing - she will have to explain to her next potential employers why she got the heave ho and I don't imagine it will do her any favours.  If I was in that position and got the sack, I would be devastated.

Well thats an opinion ... of sorts ... not sure what to make of it  or if its a wind up but .... hmmmmmm.

well i suppose i'm speachless for once, probably due to  having loved the time I spent in the employment of Mcdonalds, It was probably the best part of uni for me.

Just to be pedantic, You never actually flip any of the burgers in Mcdonalds, all meats with the exception of Bacon and chicken are cooked in a clam shell grill.

Mcdonalds has a great employee reward and improvement structure, they even have their own University, so a "sacking " from Mcdonalds can be a huge loss for some, particularly if you enjoy the work environment.

 ;iagree;

I know this is getting a bit off point but most people who work in McD's (at least the 18-25 yr old category) are probably putting themselves through uni and only work there part time. As far as uni type jobs goes, you get paid decent, you get food (ok its crap but hey, we are talking about students here) and you work decent hours at McD's. Compare that to working in a 'cool-hip trendy' bar where you are cleaning up spew, on your feet all day long and working god awful hours for less than minimum wage and I know which one i would prefer.

Like Billy said, a lot of these jobs that people turn their nose up at, actually end up being great fun for those who work in them part time cause you have great banter with your co workers taking the piss out of all people who look down at you knowing that in five years time your going to be earning more than these snobs. And remember, they are serving food!!! Lesson for today: Be nice.

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I Dare you to go to Merseyside police with this one, they will crucify ya :D

Its already been reported and the sgt at upton advised me to threaten legal action! I thought that was a bit xtreme hence this post lol.

Why was I there? Not that any1 such question this but I have children who like the food.

Was this girl in uni? No she looked about 16 an her 1st job, wit no common sense. Prob be an AL doc in 10yrs.

Seems like everyone's getting the 'blame' here apart from the scum who made off with the wallet!

1. Yes it's careless to leave your wallet lying on a counter but the idea that it's your fault if it disappears is IMO backward (any number of distractions could result in you misplacing the said wallet for a moment....Eg. 'the cries of a passing pie merchant'...dare I say it 'norkage'...lol) but the wallet should still be there once you've regained your composure :)


2. The person behind the counter was naive and stoopid (the least someone in a similar scenario should do is a simple name check....takes two secs (so the food will still be 'fast') and you shouldn't need 'training' to come up with that...GCSE's, A-levels, Degrees are getting easier!).

3. Regardless of the above, the bottom line is we're all too quick to look to aportion blame to someone other than the DIRTY THIEF....why? Possibly because we've lost all faith in the criminal justice system. Lets face it, if the lowlife was caught red handed they'd probably get 1/3 off the price of their burger so long as they coughed to the offense....

Will

Probably because the "Dirty Thief" was the only one in the sorry episode to display a high level of intelligence, skill, wit and cunning!

I was just about to post along the same lines but with a different conclusion.

I'm surprised knowone has highlighted the opportunistic genius of this guy, it takes some bottle to do that.

We need more acts of impromptu creativity displayed by the perpetrator in this country to regain our sense of social individuality lost amongst the decadent ethos of todays culturally benighted generation that have consumed the country's propensity for transcendental charisma with a fatuous acquiescence to disposable t.v and American ideology.

When she handed over the wallet i bet she said "do you want fries with that?"

A new "Thief of the Week"  award is in order methinks!

can we have it backdated? 8)

Intelligence, skill, wit and cunning?

Stealing a wallet in MC,D's....? Last time I was in there the cctv looked **** hot so if they're known to the police they'll be picked up sooner or later.

Silly me, they couldn't possibly be known to the police because of their high level of intelligence,skill, wit and cunning! A wallet in McDonalds today, Tommorow, The World! (or Winson Green or Pentonville or Brinsford or a £5 rebuy)

Will

It' amazing how people can become creative, Intelligent, skillfull, witty, and cunning when it comes to committing a crime or getting something for nothing.

What's also amazing, is that some people seem to admire them for it.

Hats off to him. There is a lot to admire from the criminal mind. Although wallets in MCD is not exactly top drawer, he still had the presence of mind to act fast, bluff the member of staff and get away with it. If you're going to be a criminal you may as well be the best you can be at it.

Also his bluffing skills are to be admired by all us poker players, no?

I said he was the only one in the sorry episode to display a high level of etc etc. Compared to say, you or me the wallet thief is probably a donut.
its all relative

In the original post there were 3 protagonists. May be my earlier posts haven't conveyed my feelings with enough clarity. The DIRTY THIEF was clearly the DUMBEST and displayed NO characteristics I'd amire in a fellow human.

Will

You're of course absolutely right (in t. One of the police officers said the same thing almost, "it takes some balls to do that so its highly likely we'll have his picture on file"...

As for the sarcasm, it doesnt become you bolt :D

Whats the word though, it shouldnt be genius but cunning. Sounds more of a low life word.