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Heres the deal we're playing 25/50p at the cincin.

Its one of those games where to see a flop your calling a pot raise every other hand, the big hands weren't holding up at either table so I decided to get creative and play some more speculative hands.  On the button I find 4c 5c and raise the pot but get 5 callers. SB checks BB bets a £10 and there are two more callers £10 the flop had come Kc 7c 3c now I call the £10 and make it another £30 to go.  I thought they might be drawing maybe had TP.
 
The SB who had been playing trash for a while and pissing all his chips away and re-raises all in for another £24.50 and then  we get a fold and another caller.  Now the guy that calls before its my turn to act is the only player who can do me damage I was down about 70 early doors and managed to claw that back as well as my rebuys from an earlier tourney and was showing profit overall from the cash game. 

If I call I know he moves all in no matter what hits the turn, if I calls there is a massive pot to be won if i have them both beat, if I end up with it all in the middle at this point then I am struggling for taxi fare home.

What do you do on that board and with the sums in the pot?

I ship it in. I stop worrying about if i am up or not in the game, and i curse myself for not leaving a tenner in my pocket for the taxi.....

I dwelled for about 4-5 minutes and talked myself out of making the call.

SB turns over K 2 no club and the other yin turns over A 2 with nut flush draw needless to say no clubs hit the turn or river and I passed what would have been the winning hand!!

I was raging with myself for not making the call, after that I went to the toilet to wash my face and realised I had another £40 in my back pocket that I must have put away earlier in the night and totally forgot about.

u gotta shove em in and pray the last club doesnt fall to beat urs


u have a made flush regardless of ur 2 being low

chances are the ace or king is out there but hey it's never easy...lol

plus u have invested a load anyway


all in for me

You can't pass here even if the Ac is out there which it clearly is then you cant pass.

  You have entered the hand with suited connectors and flopped the flush.It is why you enterd the hand isn't it?

  You have got to be commited in hands like these otherwise all you will end up doing is slowly throw money away.Long term getting your chips in the middle in this situation has got to be a winning play.If your personnal situation at the time ie,(taxi fare home)dictates that you won't be able to commit to the hand then,hole cards like suited connectors should go straight in the muck.Always think ahead about likely scenerios before you enter the pot and what youre prepared to do with the hand.
  In this instance anyone holding the  Ac is not going anywhere and more than often push all-in to try a nd take the pot down there and then,you've entered the pot and hit the flop,you've got to go with it.

The taxi fare was a tongue in cheek comment!

I had the taxi fare and if the worse had come to the worse then it was almost 7 in the morning the buses where running again   :D

I hit the flop, and to be honest I thought my bet of £30 would have got rid of all the players alolowing me to take down the pot.  Had it not been for the 2nd player coming in with the Ac I would have called instantly, I had tw oreasons for not calling.

1:  I didn't want to loose all my chips - I felt I could have used them and got into a better situation.
2: I actually thought I was behind.

no way i could lay down a flush here. instant call

1 very bad reason, 1 very good reason.

It's a cash game, forget about using ur chips to find a better edge, you can just rebuy.

You think you are behind, go with it, there is a lot of action here it is deffo possible you are behind.

I think you're annoyed for the fact that you would have taken the pot having seen what the other 2 had.  I think the fold is a very reasonable move(any club or the board pairing has you dead) although I think you should maybe have thought about what you would do if you're faced with a reraise before putting in the extra £30.  For me, once you put in that £30 you've got to be prepared to fire the rest in, if you werent, you couldve called and watch the blank come down on the turn, the 2 other guys were always still gonna stick it in on the turn and I think you would have too.

i cant see that calling to watch a danger card hit is a good move. if the board pairs or a club hits you (and probably rightly) will be put off. imo, push and charge em for their draws. if you are already beat fair enough, and if u get outdrawn ul.

yeah I have to agree. if you call with suited connectors pre-flop you can't complain about the flush hitting on the flop...what else did you want to hit?

All chips have to go in every single time...you'll ussually end up winning the hand.

gotta call, gotta call. altho if ure down and won some back and the guy whos in can take all you money., there is always that little part of u thinking dam.

but gotta call. altho there was a few outs if you did call for them to hit

who was it?

I'm guessing someone who wasn't as big a fish as bandit ;)

we r all fish in the 25p 50p  pot limit game. its a flop game......

Chemical Ali!!

I agree that pushing is probably the best option, but Bandit says he wasnt sure(and ultimately didnt) if he was willing to risk the bigger flush or another draw hitting.  On the flop he couldve flat called for £10 and saw the turn(which was a complete blank) but instead raised £30, if he had thought that he might fold to a reraise for his £30 then, imo, its a viable option to flat call instead.  I think if Bandit flat calls this and the blank hits the turn he'd feel safer pushing the rest in, going the extra £30 just to fold was the mistake here imo.

I agree with that Boba, but I wanted to get heads up with Brian and if it was only him I call instantly, but when Ali also called thats when the doubt started to creep in. 

Next time!!!