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Title: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: The_nun on September 15, 2006, 10:31:52 AM
I purchased a new WAG about a month or so ago, had a few teething problems to begin with but all has now settled, or so I thought.
As of 2 days it has taken it upon itself to discount as and when it chooses thus, costing me money as it tends to happen when I am in a tourny and involved in a big hand. Apart from ripping it out of it's stand and smashing it into tiny pieces with a sledge hammer, does any one have any other suggestions which may rectify this problem..




Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: matt674 on September 15, 2006, 10:35:14 AM
You bought a WAG?!?!?!

Who's was it - Rooney's, Ferdinand's, Terry's, Lampard's?


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: The_nun on September 15, 2006, 10:39:18 AM
OK clever Dick.. wag54gs to be precise, i burnt my other out.. :D


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: matt674 on September 15, 2006, 10:41:30 AM
wag54gs

You lost me now, i can change the fuse on a plug but thats about it. No doubt bongo or nemesis or another of the more electrically gadget gifted amongst us will be along to lend a hand :)


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Nem on September 15, 2006, 10:46:35 AM
I haven't used Linksys before - could be a firmware issue?

http://www.jacobsen.no/anders/blog/archives/2006/01/05/how_to_set_up_the_linksys_wag54g_as_a_wifi_router_only.html


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: matt674 on September 15, 2006, 10:49:53 AM
15 MINUTES!!! WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG!!



Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: The_nun on September 15, 2006, 10:50:41 AM
Cheers Nem... i'll take a peep. I can phone up the free help line , but it can be a long winded experience depending on which assistant one gets..


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: M3boy on September 15, 2006, 10:51:08 AM
I had three of those in the space of 3 months.

Eventually was told by Lynksys that it was an "overheating" problem due to poor design!!! - They told me to put a fan on it!! I told them to shove it and went and bought a Netgear DG834GT and have not had a problem with it in over a year!

Not much help I know but,,,,,,,,,,

Tip - Take it to a PC world shop and say you are less than happy with it, but you do not have the receipt. Ask to swap it for the Netgear. PC world are usually pretty good - they dont seem to mind that you didnt even buy it from them! :)


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 15, 2006, 10:51:47 AM
I use linksys but TBH it could be any number of things, there is a setup program on their site, you might try that.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Ginger on September 15, 2006, 10:52:19 AM
Oh dear.....

The wag54gs has known issues and tbh is a pain in the bum! they over heat very easily and if you still have you receipt I would return it a.s.a.p as it seems you have one of the faulty lot.

James had the same one, and we tried 3 different routers (all the same model) ALL ended up going belly up.Normally I would reccommend Linksys, but this model is pants. Return it and get a Belkin instead.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Ginger on September 15, 2006, 10:54:15 AM
I had three of those in the space of 3 months.

Eventually was told by Lynksys that it was an "overheating" problem due to poor design!!! - They told me to put a fan on it!! I told them to shove it and went and bought a Netgear DG834GT and have not had a problem with it in over a year!

Not much help I know but,,,,,,,,,,

Tip - Take it to a PC world shop and say you are less than happy with it, but you do not have the receipt. Ask to swap it for the Netgear. PC world are usually pretty good - they dont seem to mind that you didnt even buy it from them! :)

Beat me to it Paul lol

If you got it from Currys, Dixons or PCWorld, and DON'T have the receipt but know the date you got it, they SHOULD be able to trace it for you.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 15, 2006, 10:54:41 AM
Oh dear.....

The wag54gs has known issues and tbh is a pain in the bum! they over heat very easily and if you still have you receipt I would return it a.s.a.p as it seems you have one of the faulty lot.

James had the same one, and we tried 3 different routers (all the same model) ALL ended up going belly up.Normally I would reccommend Linksys, but this model is pants. Return it and get a Belkin instead.

I've just checked and i have exactly the same model, never had a problem........

Is it just dropping the connection and immediately reconnecting?


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: The_nun on September 15, 2006, 10:55:24 AM
Tnx all.......

Hammer it is then...


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Nem on September 15, 2006, 10:55:46 AM
Cheers Nem... i'll take a peep. I can phone up the free help line , but it can be a long winded experience depending on which assistant one gets..

That would be your best bet - that is what I do.

I had three of those in the space of 3 months.

Eventually was told by Lynksys that it was an "overheating" problem due to poor design!!! - They told me to put a fan on it!! I told them to shove it and went and bought a Netgear DG834GT and have not had a problem with it in over a year!

Not much help I know but,,,,,,,,,,

Tip - Take it to a PC world shop and say you are less than happy with it, but you do not have the receipt. Ask to swap it for the Netgear. PC world are usually pretty good - they dont seem to mind that you didnt even buy it from them! :)

Netgear RangeMax or Belkin Pre-N are very good routers.

Bainn seems to be an expert, maybe he can give you some better advice. :)up


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: M3boy on September 15, 2006, 10:58:28 AM
I had three of those in the space of 3 months.

Eventually was told by Lynksys that it was an "overheating" problem due to poor design!!! - They told me to put a fan on it!! I told them to shove it and went and bought a Netgear DG834GT and have not had a problem with it in over a year!

Not much help I know but,,,,,,,,,,

Tip - Take it to a PC world shop and say you are less than happy with it, but you do not have the receipt. Ask to swap it for the Netgear. PC world are usually pretty good - they dont seem to mind that you didnt even buy it from them! :)

Beat me to it Paul lol

If you got it from Currys, Dixons or PCWorld, and DON'T have the receipt but know the date you got it, they SHOULD be able to trace it for you.

Jane, I bought mine online from DABS and would of taken 3 weeks to get a replacement - so I took it to PC World and "blagged" it. worked for me :)


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Ginger on September 15, 2006, 11:01:03 AM
LOL, been there too Paul. as long as it's not a refund they aren't really bothered.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: The_nun on September 15, 2006, 11:02:33 AM
I must admit , it is totaly peeing me off now....I will give them a ring then return the ffffffffffff lippin thing..





Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Ginger on September 15, 2006, 11:05:47 AM

Bainn seems to be an expert, maybe he can give you some better advice. :)up

I'm not saying that there isn't better advice, but in all honesty if you are disconnecting all the time it sounds like the standard problem that this router suffers from (simple google it and you will find loads of problems with the thing) short of pulling it apart and doing some modding on it, there is nothing you can do.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 15, 2006, 11:07:50 AM
Go here:-

http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=UK%2FLayout&cid=1129319214507&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

Select your router and use the "install" program.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: M3boy on September 15, 2006, 11:16:16 AM
Maureen

Please dont waste your time with firmware upgrades or other "fixes" on the net - believe me, I tired them all.

It is a design fault pure and simple.

Get rid and get a diff make!!


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Royal Flush on September 15, 2006, 11:28:13 AM
Maureen

Please dont waste your time with firmware upgrades or other "fixes" on the net - believe me, I tired them all.

It is a design fault pure and simple.

Get rid and get a diff make!!

Agreed i tried every one. Eventually i just bought the Belkin, despite always having Linksys before. It has had no such problems.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: The_nun on September 15, 2006, 11:31:58 AM
Ok ...I think the decision has been made, I have always had a Linkys but like i said my last one did burn out after a few years of hammer, that is why I stuck with the make, and this one has been great up till now, but the disconnection is becoming more frequent, 2 days ago it was just a couple of times during the course of the day, but today it is happening every 15 mins or so...Tx all


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 15, 2006, 12:18:32 PM
Maureen

Please dont waste your time with firmware upgrades or other "fixes" on the net - believe me, I tired them all.

It is a design fault pure and simple.


I'm not saying you are wrong but if there was a design fault then surely they wouldn't still be selling it?
I've probably not turned mine off in years and have never had a problem, the main problems you get with routers is config errors, i have set up many networks with various routers over the years and if i ever have to go back it is usually because someone mucked about with my settings.
I even had one bloke connecting to next doors router :D


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Royal Flush on September 15, 2006, 02:05:15 PM
Maureen

Please dont waste your time with firmware upgrades or other "fixes" on the net - believe me, I tired them all.

It is a design fault pure and simple.


I'm not saying you are wrong but if there was a design fault then surely they wouldn't still be selling it?
I've probably not turned mine off in years and have never had a problem, the main problems you get with routers is config errors, i have set up many networks with various routers over the years and if i ever have to go back it is usually because someone mucked about with my settings.
I even had one bloke connecting to next doors router :D

Trust me Ian, i know routers quite well, and how to config them. It is a design flaw, they look nice but they are shit.

Switch router Maureen.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Nem on September 15, 2006, 02:17:47 PM
Belkin Pre-N own

Holla  ;tk;


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Trace on September 15, 2006, 02:18:35 PM
Maureen

My Linksys has days where it drops and drops and drops, I searched on the net and some people put it down to it overheating, so I have turned mine on it's end.  i.e.  flishy flashy lights can no longer be seen and the aerial is pointing straight up.

I haven't had a problem since.

(Apologies if I have gone a bit sideways here, I didn't read the whole thread b4 posting)

Trace

P.S.  I dont know a darn thing about wireless routers etc, Flushie put mine in an online shopping basket and then I paid for it!!!  lol


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 15, 2006, 03:25:36 PM
Has someone else recently installed a wireless network nearby? They could be interfering with yours. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on September 15, 2006, 03:51:00 PM
Maureen

I had exactly the same problem with my Linksys router (same model).  I solved it a few weeks ago by buying a Netgear one which hasn't dropped a single connection.

FWIW, when it does go you can quickly get it back up and running again by right clicking on the Wireless network icon and selecting 'repair'.  That worked fine for me but it still kicked you out for 30seconds - 1 minute at a time.

However, on a similar theme, one problem I'm having with both routers is to get the desktop and laptop to share files and printers.  It just doesn't want to co-operate.  The most irritating thing is that when I'm in Network Neighbourhood it tells me that I don't have administrative rights on either PC so am not authorised to see the network!  All help appreciated.

Sheriff


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 15, 2006, 03:58:04 PM
What OS, WinXP?

Any software firewalls on either machine?


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on September 15, 2006, 03:59:46 PM
What OS, WinXP?

Any software firewalls on either machine?

Win XP on both.  Norton Protection Centre running on both with Windows Firewall disabled.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 15, 2006, 04:24:31 PM
Is norton setup to allow communication between the computers?

Is it XP home or Pro?


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on September 15, 2006, 04:46:37 PM
That could be the problem.  Just tried to amend the settings to allow this - will keep you posted!

Thanks Bongo.

Sheriff


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: M3boy on September 15, 2006, 06:55:43 PM
Sherrif - Bin Norton - its worthless (and thats when it DOES work!!)


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Nem on September 15, 2006, 07:21:38 PM
Sherrif - Bin Norton - its worthless (and thats when it DOES work!!)

Couldn't agree more.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 15, 2006, 07:29:41 PM
I third that, don't really want to drag this thread off topic by discussing it though. I'm sure we've done it to death previously.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Nem on September 15, 2006, 07:32:36 PM
I third that, don't really want to drag this thread off topic by discussing it though. I'm sure we've done it to death previously.

Agreed  :D


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: MrsLime on September 15, 2006, 07:43:42 PM
If you are getting new hardware, I recommend the Netgear wireless routers.

One thing to bear in mind is that some cordless phones interfere with wireless networks.

(http://www.heathersanimations.com/dance2/dancekick100.gif)


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 16, 2006, 01:10:39 AM
One thing to bear in mind is that some cordless phones interfere with wireless networks.

LMAO


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 16, 2006, 01:17:45 AM
Some of them use the same frequency radiowaves as 802.11b/g wireless networks.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 16, 2006, 01:24:22 AM
Some of them use the same frequency radiowaves as 802.11b/g wireless networks.

No offense but.................rubbish


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 16, 2006, 01:25:31 AM
http://digitalliving.cnet.co.uk/technightmares/0,39030546,39189014-5,00.htm

Particularly section 2...


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 16, 2006, 01:28:09 AM
http://digitalliving.cnet.co.uk/technightmares/0,39030546,39189014-5,00.htm

Particularly section 2...

Rubbish


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Royal Flush on September 16, 2006, 01:28:49 AM
MFI and ITB, one and the same?


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 16, 2006, 01:31:02 AM
http://digitalliving.cnet.co.uk/technightmares/0,39030546,39189014-5,00.htm

Particularly section 2...

Rubbish

And the reason for that is?  :dontask:


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 16, 2006, 01:43:41 AM
http://digitalliving.cnet.co.uk/technightmares/0,39030546,39189014-5,00.htm

Particularly section 2...

Rubbish

And the reason for that is?  :dontask:

Because it's untrue


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 16, 2006, 01:46:56 AM
This will just go round in circles then.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 16, 2006, 01:49:44 AM
This will just go round in circles then.

Think about it, do you really think cordless phones effect it?


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: totalise on September 16, 2006, 01:53:16 AM
This will just go round in circles then.

Think about it, do you really think cordless phones effect it?

I do


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 16, 2006, 01:56:35 AM
I've seen it happen myself and had to move the router to get it to work. Only once though, so it's not that common.

It's some phones, not all. Some use different parts of the spectrum (900MHz, 5GHz) and some that are in the 2.4Ghz bit of the spectrum will use different channels and not affect the wireless network.

This article is a bit better I think:
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/2191241


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: MrsLime on September 16, 2006, 02:22:04 AM
It is very unintelliegent to just say "rubbish" to someone's post without further offering a justification or explanation for the reason you disagree. 

Why is it so unbelievable that cordless phones could interfere with a wireless network?  Do you have even a basic understanding of how either of these devices works?


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Bongo on September 16, 2006, 02:24:59 AM
Maybe he had his wires crossed?


(I'll do it myself: :redcard:)


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: Ginger on September 16, 2006, 09:27:50 AM
IFM actually has a point, it is VERY rare that they are going to interfere with a wireless network. Of course it will happen on the odd occasion but only in the same way that your Hoover may interfer with your TV.

(and yes, I do know what I'm talking about - Cisco certified  :D )


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 16, 2006, 12:00:56 PM
It is very unintelliegent to just say "rubbish" to someone's post without further offering a justification or explanation for the reason you disagree. 

Why is it so unbelievable that cordless phones could interfere with a wireless network?  Do you have even a basic understanding of how either of these devices works?


Hello, nice to see you are up to your usual tricks, obviously my grammar and spelling were correct.

I would have thought routers follow the norm in these things where the manufacturers know that radio2 is on 88-91FM and mobile phones have their own bandwidth as do cordless phones etc.
For that reason i would also ASSUME that routers will have their own frequency range so as to avoid conflicts.
My cordless phone is next to my router but my phone is BT approved, maybe that is the key?
As for the unintelligence of the "rubbish" comment, well i couldn't think of anything better, i hope Bongo understands :D


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: MrsLime on September 16, 2006, 04:00:41 PM
It is very unintelliegent to just say "rubbish" to someone's post without further offering a justification or explanation for the reason you disagree. 

Why is it so unbelievable that cordless phones could interfere with a wireless network?  Do you have even a basic understanding of how either of these devices works?



Hello, nice to see you are up to your usual tricks, obviously my grammar and spelling were correct.

I would have thought routers follow the norm in these things where the manufacturers know that radio2 is on 88-91FM and mobile phones have their own bandwidth as do cordless phones etc.
For that reason i would also ASSUME that routers will have their own frequency range so as to avoid conflicts.
My cordless phone is next to my router but my phone is BT approved, maybe that is the key?

I think that, on this occasion, your assumption was wrong.  I didn't claim that cordless phones ALWAYS interefere with wireless networks, I just meant that it is SOMETIMES possible.  See above for links to articles and anecdotal evidence from other posters.

You surely agree, however, that posts that literally only say "Rubbish" aren't very helpful or informative... it would be better to say "I work in the telecommunications industry and you are talking rubbish" etc, so at least we can gauge your level of expertise.  A forum is a medium for discussion; but discussion cannot occur when you grunt out one-word retorts.


Title: Re: Heklp with wireless connection please..
Post by: ifm on September 16, 2006, 04:06:17 PM
You surely agree, however, that posts that literally only say "Rubbish" aren't very helpful or informative... it would be better to say "I work in the telecommunications industry and you are talking rubbish" etc, so at least we can gauge your level of expertise.  A forum is a medium for discussion; but discussion cannot occur when you grunt out one-word retorts.

As you yourself rarely add to any discussion i bow to your superior understanding of forum ettiquette.