Title: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 12, 2007, 05:23:46 PM I have had a very nice invite to the Spurs v Newcastle game on Sunday. ;popcorn; :cheers:
Does anyone have any tips I should back like first goal scorer? I haven't seen much of either side lately so lost track of who is likely to play upfront for either side? Kem, Nev any ideas and any geordies out there? Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Colchester Kev on January 12, 2007, 05:24:43 PM Please dont back spurs you Jonah !!
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 05:44:41 PM I have had a very nice invite to the Spurs v Newcastle game on Sunday. ;popcorn; :cheers: Does anyone have any tips I should back like first goal scorer? I haven't seen much of either side lately so lost track of who is likely to play upfront for either side? Kem, Nev any ideas and any geordies out there? Guaranteed 3 points on Sunday. Bet on Defoe to score first. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Graham C on January 12, 2007, 06:03:19 PM I have had a very nice invite to the Spurs v Newcastle game on Sunday. ;popcorn; :cheers: Does anyone have any tips I should back like first goal scorer? I haven't seen much of either side lately so lost track of who is likely to play upfront for either side? Kem, Nev any ideas and any geordies out there? Guaranteed 3 points on Sunday. Bet on Defoe to score first. I don't think Newcastle win that easily Nem, be close though :D Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 12, 2007, 07:42:11 PM Anyone know how easily is it to come by tickets down there? I'm working in Watford next week but may travel down on Sunday morning if there's a decent chance of finding one!
As for the result I think we're still carrying three or four poor players and a point would be a good result, taking 4 points from an eventual rival to the european comps can only be good! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 08:08:12 PM Anyone know how easily is it to come by tickets down there? I'm working in Watford next week but may travel down on Sunday morning if there's a decent chance of finding one! As for the result I think we're still carrying three or four poor players and a point would be a good result, taking 4 points from an eventual rival to the european comps can only be good! Our stadium is filled on average 99.8%. So unless you pay through the nose, you'll have no chance. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Triple X on January 12, 2007, 08:24:59 PM what all 36,000 seats Nem?? Not too difficult with that capacity!!
Anyway - your website says that both next Home matches, i.e. Newcastle and Cardiff have tickets available. Oh dear oh dear! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 08:32:26 PM what all 36,000 seats Nem?? Not too difficult with that capacity!! Anyway - your website says that both next Home matches, i.e. Newcastle and Cardiff have tickets available. Oh dear oh dear! ;ashamed; Did you read the standard this evening XXX? Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Triple X on January 12, 2007, 09:00:27 PM no what did it say?
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 12, 2007, 09:13:07 PM That Beckham had signed for LA Galaxy?
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Triple X on January 12, 2007, 09:15:09 PM That Beckham had signed for LA Galaxy? HAS HE? Where's that been reported? Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 12, 2007, 09:26:00 PM Lol
Why he turned down city and spurs i will ever know. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Horneris on January 12, 2007, 09:34:17 PM Malbranque
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 09:36:37 PM //
Quote from: Triple X link=topic=19026.msg386640llion fans in England alo#msg386640 date=1168635627 no what did it say? Chelsea have 20million fans worldwide and 3.8 million in England alone (club figures) rotflmfao Arsenal have 30million fans worldwide and 2 million in England alone (wow that Chelsea figure looks very realistic now!) Tottenham Hotspur have 4.3 million fans worldwide with 1.4 in England. Arsenal - 30M Fans Worldwide (2M in UK) = £10.2M Merchandising income Chelsea - 20M Fans Worldwide (3.8M in UK) = £7.7M Merchandising income Spurs - 4.3M Fans Worldwide (1.4M in UK) = £5.2M Merchandising income According to the latest Deloitte & Touche Report here is our respective Commercial Revenues (including sponsorship deals, merchandising, etc.): Arsenal - £29.7M Chelsea - £37.2M Spurs - £24M (this doesn't include the PUMA/Mansion deals that will surely increase this significantly) Arsenal have a 60,000 seater stadium with 42,000 fans on the waiting list. Tottenham Hotspur have a 36,000 seater stadium, with 30,000 fans on the waiting list Chelsea have a 42,000 seater stadium, with 0 fans on the waiting list - (big club) THFC have a turnover of £74million (this doesn't include the PUMA/Mansion deals that will surely increase this significantly) AFC have a turnover of £130million CFC have a turnover of £146million (but ran at a loss of £83million last season and £72million the season before!) Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 09:41:19 PM Lol Why he turned down city and spurs i will ever know. Yeah, LOL. However, I find it hard to believe that he is getting anywhere near the £128 million quoted in the papers. Surely the figure is just spin to show the American public that there is a new boy in town to match its homeland superstars. I mean, in his team, the star player is Donovan Bailey - a massive £450,000 transfer from Bayern Leverkusen! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Graham C on January 12, 2007, 09:43:10 PM The Arsenal income won't include revenue from the increase in stadium size though will it? I assume it will grow next season.
Even with the new stadium, Arsenal will take approx £1m less than Man U per home game - summit like that anyway Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 12, 2007, 09:49:32 PM Lol Why he turned down city and spurs i will ever know. Yeah, LOL. However, I find it hard to believe that he is getting anywhere near the £128 million quoted in the papers. Surely the figure is just spin to show the American public that there is a new boy in town to match its homeland superstars. I mean, in his team, the star player is Donovan Bailey - a massive £450,000 transfer from Bayern Leverkusen! LOL Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Horneris on January 12, 2007, 09:51:50 PM // Quote from: Triple X link=topic=19026.msg386640llion fans in England alo#msg386640 date=1168635627 no what did it say? Chelsea have 20million fans worldwide and 3.8 million in England alone (club figures) rotflmfao Arsenal have 30million fans worldwide and 2 million in England alone (wow that Chelsea figure looks very realistic now!) Tottenham Hotspur have 4.3 million fans worldwide with 1.4 in England. Arsenal - 30M Fans Worldwide (2M in UK) = £10.2M Merchandising income Chelsea - 20M Fans Worldwide (3.8M in UK) = £7.7M Merchandising income Spurs - 4.3M Fans Worldwide (1.4M in UK) = £5.2M Merchandising income we (Leeds) have more than that. About 50m fans worldwide. (6m in UK) Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 12, 2007, 10:14:57 PM The figures seem to go up and down like a yoyo depending on which paper you read. Although I can sort of understand why he has gone there (under the thumb), I would have liked to have seen him back in the prem.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 10:19:37 PM // Quote from: Triple X link=topic=19026.msg386640llion fans in England alo#msg386640 date=1168635627 no what did it say? Chelsea have 20million fans worldwide and 3.8 million in England alone (club figures) rotflmfao Arsenal have 30million fans worldwide and 2 million in England alone (wow that Chelsea figure looks very realistic now!) Tottenham Hotspur have 4.3 million fans worldwide with 1.4 in England. Arsenal - 30M Fans Worldwide (2M in UK) = £10.2M Merchandising income Chelsea - 20M Fans Worldwide (3.8M in UK) = £7.7M Merchandising income Spurs - 4.3M Fans Worldwide (1.4M in UK) = £5.2M Merchandising income we (Leeds) have more than that. About 50m fans worldwide. (6m in UK) Leeds 2 E's and LSD! You been taken too many of em, eh up son! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 12, 2007, 10:25:08 PM I am hoping they go down so we can see them play at Brighton next year.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 12, 2007, 10:28:28 PM The figures are complete guess work and mean very very little, apart from possibliy the money it has the potential to make.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 10:36:19 PM The figures are complete guess work and mean very very little, apart from possibliy the money it has the potential to make. I know. All this "Arsenal have 30million fans" when 26million of em are Chinese rice pickers, with no loyalty and more importantly to the club - no money! A big club (fan wise) you should evaluate the following Season ticket sales + number on waiting list Fee paying memberships Worldwide merchandising sales/figures Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 12, 2007, 10:41:33 PM The figures are complete guess work and mean very very little, apart from possibliy the money it has the potential to make. I know. All this "Arsenal have 30million fans" when 26million of em are Chinese rice pickers, with no loyalty and more importantly to the club - no money! A big club (fan wise) you should evaluate the following Season ticket sales + number on waiting list Fee paying memberships Worldwide merchandising sales/figures Thats closer but i'm still not that convinced. That would depend on marketing of things such as memberships etc. I am amazed at the level of demand for arsenal and tottenham season tickets... why the hell didnt they make the emerites 80,000? I remember the day we had a 30,000 waiting list, however once the supply came along the number of take ups was unsuprisingly small. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 10:52:07 PM The figures are complete guess work and mean very very little, apart from possibliy the money it has the potential to make. I know. All this "Arsenal have 30million fans" when 26million of em are Chinese rice pickers, with no loyalty and more importantly to the club - no money! A big club (fan wise) you should evaluate the following Season ticket sales + number on waiting list Fee paying memberships Worldwide merchandising sales/figures Thats closer but i'm still not that convinced. That would depend on marketing of things such as memberships etc. I am amazed at the level of demand for arsenal and tottenham season tickets... why the hell didnt they make the emerites 80,000? I remember the day we had a 30,000 waiting list, however once the supply came along the number of take ups was unsuprisingly small. They couldn't get planning permission without it going to a public enquiry (which in all honesty could have jeopardised the whole project) As for our demand for season tickets, our ground is too small. We have 23,000 season ticket holders now, with 30k on the list (predictions of 40k next season) That is why we have brought in Sir Keith Mills to help polish up our current stadium (or relocate) and imporve the Spurs brand overseas... I mean we only have 4.3 million fans, Chelsea have 20 million! :D Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 12, 2007, 10:55:55 PM Yeah just fill in some of those lakes/resovoiur things you have down that way and knock a new one up... or relocate to Hemel Hamstead!
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 10:59:45 PM Yeah just fill in some of those lakes/resovoiur things you have down that way and knock a new one up... Yeah them lakes, cut off the supply of 5million peoples water :D or relocate to Hemel Hamstead! You're not an ITK are you? ;) Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 12, 2007, 11:03:20 PM please get back on topic, I need your tips.
:)up Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 12, 2007, 11:04:15 PM please get back on topic, I need your tips. :)up Defoe 1st scorer Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Horneris on January 12, 2007, 11:19:53 PM Malbranque!!!
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 12, 2007, 11:20:23 PM Yeah just fill in some of those lakes/resovoiur things you have down that way and knock a new one up... Yeah them lakes, cut off the supply of 5million peoples water :D or relocate to Hemel Hamstead! You're not an ITK are you? ;) 5 million, but they are cockneys! ITK? My prediction is a home win. Though I'd back 0-0 and 1-1, Draw HT Home FT, Away HT Home FT. Having said that I would be hoping to lose them all! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: The Baron on January 13, 2007, 12:38:40 AM The figures are complete guess work and mean very very little, apart from possibliy the money it has the potential to make. I know. All this "Arsenal have 30million fans" when 26million of em are Chinese rice pickers, with no loyalty and more importantly to the club - no money! A big club (fan wise) you should evaluate the following Season ticket sales + number on waiting list Fee paying memberships Worldwide merchandising sales/figures Dobson and Goddard are spot on with football economics usually. They dont deal in "Chinese rice pickers"! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 13, 2007, 10:38:10 AM The figures are complete guess work and mean very very little, apart from possibliy the money it has the potential to make. I know. All this "Arsenal have 30million fans" when 26million of em are Chinese rice pickers, with no loyalty and more importantly to the club - no money! A big club (fan wise) you should evaluate the following Season ticket sales + number on waiting list Fee paying memberships Worldwide merchandising sales/figures Dobson and Goddard are spot on with football economics usually. They dont deal in "Chinese rice pickers"! Dobson and Goddard are just a pair of Mystic Megs - how can you possible have estimate figures in millions - especially foreign "fans"? Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: The Baron on January 13, 2007, 06:19:07 PM The figures are complete guess work and mean very very little, apart from possibliy the money it has the potential to make. I know. All this "Arsenal have 30million fans" when 26million of em are Chinese rice pickers, with no loyalty and more importantly to the club - no money! A big club (fan wise) you should evaluate the following Season ticket sales + number on waiting list Fee paying memberships Worldwide merchandising sales/figures Dobson and Goddard are spot on with football economics usually. They dont deal in "Chinese rice pickers"! Dobson and Goddard are just a pair of Mystic Megs - how can you possible have estimate figures in millions - especially foreign "fans"? That's the point though - they are estimate figures. Do with them as you will. I for one don't read too much into them. Their review figures from the previous season are usually pretty accurate though and used by loads of other football economists. Their sources are spot on too. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: ChipRich on January 14, 2007, 03:24:09 AM 3-1 spurs or 1-1 i go for
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Horneris on January 14, 2007, 05:44:06 AM ;djinn;
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 14, 2007, 08:27:57 AM Ok Defoe to score first and 3-1.
Fingers crossed. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 01:09:56 PM Ok Defoe to score first and 3-1. Fingers crossed. I hope you lose! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: dan on January 14, 2007, 02:33:58 PM Ok Defoe to score first and 3-1. Fingers crossed. I hope you lose! lol me too Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Graham C on January 14, 2007, 04:14:28 PM Great start from Spurs, got a bit lucky with the off side goal but they are still playing great and are going to piss this imo.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Graham C on January 14, 2007, 04:15:14 PM lol 1-1
amazing game Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 14, 2007, 04:15:29 PM Great start from Spurs, got a bit lucky with the off side goal but they are still playing great and are going to piss this imo. Ooohhh, insta-bokk from Graham. Spurs goal was offside anyway. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 04:17:28 PM How can you not get given either one of the two offsides...
Paul Robinson giving more evidence as to why he probably shouldnt be England number one at the mo. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Graham C on January 14, 2007, 04:28:11 PM anything I can do to bokk the Spurs, let me know :D
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 14, 2007, 04:46:14 PM How can you not get given either one of the two offsides... Paul Robinson giving more evidence as to why he probably shouldnt be England number one at the mo. I have lost all confidence in his ability. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 14, 2007, 04:51:04 PM How can you not get given either one of the two offsides... Paul Robinson giving more evidence as to why he probably shouldnt be England number one at the mo. I have lost all confidence in his ability. All kicking off at half-time. Shay Given, best goalie in the Premiership, and probably in Newcastle's history. Certainly our only world-class player atm. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 04:51:13 PM And Chimbonda is only living up to what I thought of him about the way he left Wigan, he is an idiot. Butt is just as bad for looking at the linesman as he pushed him like - but if Gilberto gets sent off for that yesterday then an open handed slap across the face is also a red card.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 04:56:54 PM Odds on Nobby being sent off second half after Chimbonda should have gone twice now. Bennett is even worse than the avergae referee - apart from Uria Rennie he is the worst.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: ChipRich on January 14, 2007, 05:28:14 PM How much have you got on 3-1 and defoe 1st Indestruactable??
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: The Baron on January 14, 2007, 05:30:00 PM Odds on Nobby being sent off second half after Chimbonda should have gone twice now. Bennett is even worse than the avergae referee - apart from Uria Rennie he is the worst. With Steve Bennet you can bet your bollox to a barn dance that either a penalty or sending off will occur. There is only one star in a Steve Bennet match! Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Jim-D on January 14, 2007, 05:31:29 PM How much have you got on 3-1 and defoe 1st Indestruactable?? Not alot i hope Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 05:31:42 PM better than henrys..
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: ChipRich on January 14, 2007, 05:31:49 PM What a Goal from Martins, absolutle Class!
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 14, 2007, 05:33:50 PM Newcastle games are never dull... ::)
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 05:34:40 PM can we blow the whistle please
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: The Baron on January 14, 2007, 05:48:58 PM Beaten by the bigger club eh Nem? ;)
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 14, 2007, 05:53:57 PM Beaten by the bigger club eh Nem? ;) Robbed like we were against your bindipping crew. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 14, 2007, 05:55:11 PM We totally deserved to win. ;D
Seriously, how the **** did your bunch of numpties not win? Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 05:57:19 PM Looking forward to playing some games with a full squad, plus any signings that come in. Next year we should have one of the youngest and quickest teams in the league.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 14, 2007, 05:58:24 PM Dyer absolutely owned Tainio (who should be shot) and Huddlestone.
True class Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 06:00:10 PM Hang on, Tottenham might have palyed the better football and had more chances, but that is usually how home teams should be. You never deserve anything in this game. In terms of the cast iron decisions, defoes goal was ofside twice and chimbona should have been off 1.5 times - would have been a different game if those decisions had been made properly. Having said that I'll take this scenario everytime away from home.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 06:02:46 PM Dyer absolutely owned Tainio (who should be shot) and Huddlestone. True class For me he is up there with the most influencial players in the league on his day Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Horneris on January 14, 2007, 06:09:58 PM Robinsons crap. That goal by Martins was fantastic.
I also loved the challenge on Lennon by Huntingdon. He simply had no other option. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Karabiner on January 14, 2007, 06:33:55 PM Roeder at home rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Nem on January 14, 2007, 06:44:10 PM Roeder at home rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao Ok Barry. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 06:59:42 PM At what point does Roeder get credit? I'm not saying he deserves it but it yet, but its not far away from coming together. I dont know for how many games he was in charge of West Ham but he's into his 50's for us now and has a decent record.
Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: The Baron on January 14, 2007, 07:03:18 PM At what point does Roeder get credit? I'm not saying he deserves it but it yet, but its not far away from coming together. I dont know for how many games he was in charge of West Ham but he's into his 50's for us now and has a decent record. I tend to agree. The thing is you guys have decent players (when everyone is fit) I just dont think he's very tactically sound. He seems to know how to make the guys work for each other though. The effort cannot be denied. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 07:12:45 PM Roeder at home rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao What did your lot do against Roeder at home? Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Karabiner on January 14, 2007, 09:12:49 PM Roeder at home rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao What did your lot do against Roeder at home? It's a long-standing running joke between Nemesis and me, he doesn't rate Roeder. Nor do I for that matter, but in this context it's not that important, you needed to be there at the time..... Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Indestructable on January 14, 2007, 09:20:39 PM Please dont back spurs you Jonah !! Sorry Kev, my fault. ;whistle; I bet £20 Defoe to score first £5 Defoe to score last £5 Defoe to score first and 3-1 win £5 Defoe to score last and 3-1 win £5 Defoe scores first winning me £27.50 so I can't lose ;yippee; (thanks for tip Nem) I need newcastle to score and they do (somehow) Then Spurs score again. Ok now if Spurs get one more I could be on for £200+, but if Defoe scores again i am on for £450+. Everytime Spurs have the ball I am shouting get it to Defoe. Newcastle are doing bugger all until all of a sudden bang it in with a super goal. Still hoping for a last goal from Defoe but no luck. Still saw a great game, lovely free grub, free drink and a winning bet so a good day all round. :)up Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Triple X on January 14, 2007, 09:52:41 PM There is no denying Roeder is a good guy - but i just wonder if he is too much a nice guy for his own good and whether a club like Newcastle is too big for him. He is one of the reasons that i like seeing Necastle do well, for him to shove it up his crtics. But in the back of all our minds, we all know he hasnt quite got the tectical nouse that a heavyweight manager should have and that probably like Bryan Robson, Peter Reid etc at some point he will get the sack whether he deserves to or not. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 14, 2007, 10:55:56 PM To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences?
Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: The Baron on January 15, 2007, 06:05:15 PM To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences? Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid. Fluid football doesn't mean tactically sound though. Keegan was an awful tactician and he had teams playing beautiful looking football. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: Rooky9 on January 15, 2007, 06:19:14 PM To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences? Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid. Fluid football doesn't mean tactically sound though. Keegan was an awful tactician and he had teams playing beautiful looking football. The fluid football comment is completely separate to the paragraph above it, apart from backing his possible qualities. Title: Re: Spurs v Newcastle Post by: The Baron on January 15, 2007, 06:25:05 PM To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences? Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid. Fluid football doesn't mean tactically sound though. Keegan was an awful tactician and he had teams playing beautiful looking football. The fluid football comment is completely separate to the paragraph above it, apart from backing his possible qualities. Ah ok. I agree with the bottom line totally then. I was not one for sacking Roeder a few months back and I'm certainly not now. |