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Found this on a torrent site earlier, quite addictive.

It's basically Football Manager but for politics, you tinker with policy's etc and deal with national emergency's whilst getting yourself re-elected as many times as possible.

For some reason i am running the UK like a complete lefty bastard, although the capitalist's still love me!

Download Defcon from Steam, basically it's an updated version of Wargames. Deploy your fleets, aircraft and missle silos and then try and nuke every other part of the world.

Cheers will have a look, am after Civ 3 but cant find it.

Come to Luton on Saturday and I'll bring my copy. :D

Luton! Do you think i am mad!

Ahhhh, I'm not going to answer that, it's a trick question.

I still think Civ 2 was better.

i got civ3 from amazon

We're up to Civ 4 now (and it's a big improvement on Civ 3)

Civ 3 is only £4.38 on amazon brand new.

Or every civ game ever + more stuff is £22.

Speaking of Sid Meier games, Pirates! is great fun.

your correct i got civ4 but havent played it yet

going to see if democracy is available on amazon sounds like fun

pensions down to 50p a week (that will annoy tikay)

cant find it on amazon

miht have to pop into a shop now

You should try out Giants: Citzen Kabuto. Possibly the funniest game I've ever played. A group of odd looking, space marines called: Baz, Tel, Reg, Gordon and Bennett with very strong Cockney accents crash on this random planet whilst going on holiday to a place called Planet Majorca, (they pronounce it Ma-Jork-a), and end up helping these odd natives who look like the Martians from Mars Attacks! but speak with a broad Yorkshire accent and are called Smarties.


If that isn't a genius basis for a game, then I don't know what is.

http://www.democracygame.com/

£12 mate.

Thank Christ for that.

"I, Zimbra discovers Theology"

Do I still get to build Bach's Cathedral?

If you're playing Civ 4, the expansion pack, Civ 4 Warlords, is worth getting hold of.

Civ2 is for kids.

So is Civ4 deffo the best Civ? When they try to improve classic games they tend to screw them up

If you like Civ with a more Sci-fi edge, you should try Galactic Civilizations 2. Played on the biggest map setting and a game can apparently last 2-6 months.

Alpha Centauri was a bag of wank, civ4 is decent tho

That sounds cool! Is it the same game engine?

No, completely different. More like Masters of Orion II really. The coolest thing is be able to completely design your own space ships from scratch. Website is www.galciv2.com (http://www.galciv2.com)

It's tough to get into but well worth it imo, and there's a vein of humour running through it all, particularly when discovering techs and in diplomatic exchanges.

For starters, the default leader of the Humans is called Alan Bradley! (Him from Tron :D)

Colony Base = Settler

It's the same game really, just moo2 had a whole bunch of different names for factories.

I bought moo3, biggest piece of shite ever.

(http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124179&d=1145523672)

ship it to civ4

civ4 attracts a lot of super geeky programmers see, they made like loads of different moderations that you can download and use. (for free, they don't need money, they stay with their moms)

They are what you would expect froma bunch of uber-geeks, along the themes of warhammer, lord of the rings, star wars and dungeons and dragons versions of the game.
A different bunch of geeks devote their lives to creating versions with increased historical accuracy, mostly to do with WW1 and 2.

I find it funky to have a bunch of jedi thingys running around instead of warriors. My civilization practises the push-bot religion instead of buddhism, all my cities are defended by zebras, it's the way forward.



Ok ok , I'm a geek too.

It was never really a secret m8....

Did you play Planescape Torment?

That's a true test of geekhood.

The internet has made me think of myself as relatively normal.

Some of the folk I've seen are proper odd.

Yer having a laff aint you?

All the Planescape kids rode motorbikes at my school

VGA Planets was the true test of dorkdom

Pfffft that's nothing, you had to be a master at Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri where I came from.

Total Annihilation, what a game.

Strike Force Centauri?

You must have been fighting the ladies off with a stick.

Back when I wer lad, we had to learn all the words t' Babylon 5, or them hairy Terra nova boys would nick our dinner money.

You were lucky to have dinner money, when I was a wee bairn, we had to be able dress like Cap'n Christopher Pike from t'Original Star Trek Pilot and know all his lines and the mission details of the expedition t' Rigel VII. And if we did that...we'd be allowed a punch int' bracket which counted as our dinner money.

The author of that is releasing a new RTS in a few weeks...

Oh yes, I loved that, use to go to their site to download the new units for free.

Best RTS of 2006 was Company of Heroes, if your computer can handle it, it's a must.

I say dinner money, were more like wages really.

Had to write angry letters on behalf of all my German penfriends t' BBC. Complaining that some of the hats being worn in latest costume drama had not been invented in the period it was supposed to be set. That were my job see.

We wern't allowed even tap in t' bracket (whatever that is) unless we were wearing our full StarFleet dress uniform with ears and everything.
If caught without our ears on, or t' insignia downside up, they would say OI You softlad, come in the bogs to get royal flushed

is that the technical term ?

Bring back the physicist!

That might actually be possible

I can travel through time see.

At the rate of one second per second.

We dreamed of having ears. Me Dad once said, "Son, aspire t' have ears and don't expect nowt less." I used to be the original model for testing Wolfenstein 3D, every morning I'd be up 't crack o'dawn where I'd spend every day in a series of mazes being repeatedly shot to death by German soldiers and SS, have m' head bitten off every few hours by guard dogs, and have t' spar with a giant Robotic Hitler who would chaingun me to pieces twice an hour evey day 9 times for two weeks. And then when I got home I were forced to play Myst.

I ain't played Doom in 10 years, but I still remember the cheats.

IDDQD was infinte life

IDKFA gave all the keys and ammo.

10 years of school, University, Work and Poker. 10 years of books, films, TV and ladies bottoms.

How the hell do I still remember IDKFA and IDDQD? I must have played that game a lot.

You win btw Floppy, I've peaked.

I still remember the cheats from Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight.

'thereisnotry' was the one for skipping a level. :D

I remeber some of the codes to get into Prince of Persia

Page 1, Paragraph 1, Line 8, Word 2, 3rd letter was K
Page 43, Paragraph 4, Line 5, Word 1, 1st letter was T




**not really** ::)

IDCLIP to get through walls was always a good 1.

Myst is legendary floppy, i bought Jane a PSP with MYST for XMAS.

It's legendarily dull. In my opinion anyway.

anyone know if they have started work on ELITE 4 yet they have been threating to start on that for about 8 years

I'm still waiting for Duke Nukem Forever and Stalker: Shadow of Chenoybl (the latter meant to be out in March and possibly could be even better than the Half-Life games)

Half Life = Aaaaaaaaargh! Brings back bad memories of valve hammer editor and milkshake. It was the bane of my life for too long, I had to create a fully working map from scratch without using any existing textures  ;frustrated; I looked like a bit of a loony walking around taking close ups of flooring, walls, light switches etc... Creating realistic water effects was a pain in the ar$e!

Pretty cool once it was finished, having a full level that was one of the Uni buildings and blowing up the game design lecturer repeatedly (I think he fully deserved it after the hell he put us through lol) was most satisfying  ;D BUT, I never want to see the game again....

Never realised before quite how scary Bob could be. :D

I could never get past the stone boat in Myst, though. Infuriating damn game.

And if we're going on codes, "WRITETYPER" is the daddy of 'em all...

bought the game the other day its ok but full of bugs and very easy

i got 99.6%  of the vote once and ran the government for 12 elections in a row

personally i think the interface would be better if we input the price of taxes for and individual rather than setting an amount you want to raise

also the road building policy doesnt work it doesnt effect the budget or the motorists or the enviorment or nothing

also the population of the county is 60 million yet they only have 2.2 million
i had smokers down to nearly nothing basically nothing more than a fringe but i kept getting spie warnings about them
also i had comunteers at full green extremely happy but they were throwing eggs

could be a good game if they spent some time touching it up

I have just spent the last 4 days playing Stalker: Shadow of Chenobyl and I can tell you it is incredible.

It's reminiscent of the truly great games (like Half-Life 2 and Deus Ex) in that you get totally immersed in the environment. Even though it is technically a FPS it's not a relentless gunfest, as it takes place over quite a large area wth no vehicles, so you have to walk/run everywhere, so you really get absorbed into the landscape.

If you are in any way interested in FPS then go and get it now. You will need to download a patch first as it's unplayable out of the box (and I mean that literally - about 1 frame per second on my machine, yet totally fine once patched).

7 different endings... though I've only seen 3 so far.

I'm only at Rostok yet - all the freaky stuff yet to come.

Deus Ex is still the finest first person style game I've ever played, and one of the few games I'm tempted (at various times) to replay.

It's the story that hooked me, genuinely intelligent stuff.

Half Life was good, but I really liked what Deus Ex did with the character-customization.

And also with the plot - I've always though Deus Ex would make a great TV series.

The point where you discover where MJ12 is was one of those 'Whoa' moments.

And of course Deus Ex's esteem is made even greater by the huge, crushing disappointment that Deus Ex: Invisible War was.

IW is summed up by the fact that it's last level is the same as Deus Ex's first level, albeit HALF the size. And the one type of ammo fitting all guns...::)

Bioshock and Hellgate: London are the heirs to Deus Ex that I'm looking most forward to.

I played the first level of Invisible War and it didn't grip me, I guess a lot of people felt the same way. Keep meaning to give it another go, but somehow it never happens...

It's like Fisher Price Deus Ex. Levels are all either indoors or in yards (with high walls so the graphics engine doesn't have to draw anything more than 100 feet away) and have about 4 rooms in them. Generic ammo. It's all too obviously a console port.

Story wise it's not too bad - not as good as the original but enough to hold interest. There's a nice parallel story with the coffee shops.

"Fisher Price"... :D

I remember the generic ammo, from a game standpoint it's awful, yet annoyingly it makes so much sense within the world DE constructed that I couldn't really get angry about it :(

I'm sure one day I'll get around to having a bash at it, I have the 'completionist' gene unfortunately...

Deus Ex was fantastic. I played it a few years after it came out and was still in awe of it. I can't rate it as highly as Half Life which was possibly the best game I've ever played, but it was a truly superb game. Multiple ways to achieve the same ends and a lot of different angles to approach the problems from.

I read the reviews of Invisible war and realised it was going to tarnish the DE name so didnt bother to get it.

They should have got ginger to design the levels. She would have loved that..... ;scarymoment;

Let's NOT even mention Half Life eh?  ;nemesis;

I very much enjoyed Half-Life, but certain things always get to me when I play games like this. Like, where does Freeman keep all these guns he collects? In Deus Ex if you want to pick up a rocket launcher you have to drop half your inventory, and it's almost never worth it because there's guaranteed to be another way to get around whichever huge security bot is in your path (such as sneaking around it, using the "cloak" ability or just a well-timed grenade).

Even in Far Cry, you can only pick up four weapons (although it still feels silly when you're forced to trade out a machete for a rocket launcher).

I liked Half-Life a lot, but Deus Ex is still the daddy.

Stalker has a good system. Everything has a weight, and you can only safely carry 50kg of stuff. If you go over that then you tire very quickly and lose the ability to sprint.