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Title: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 09:57:29 AM
Usually the place has results trip reports writeups but its all quiet...

Anyone wanna let me know what I missed?


Title: Re: So how to APAT cardiff go??
Post by: sofa----king on February 26, 2007, 10:01:40 AM
LIVE UPDATE FROM CARDIFF APAT,.,.,.,., « 1 2 3 »


Title: Re: So how to APAT cardiff go??
Post by: MAF on February 26, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
My trip report is here:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20662.30


Title: Re: So how to APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 10:05:29 AM
LIVE UPDATE FROM CARDIFF APAT,.,.,.,., « 1 2 3 »

Wasnt really much to go on there ;) seeing as I still don't know who won or final tabled


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 10:25:22 AM
I still don't know either - all I know is that Mark Donnelly (who came second in Brum) was in the final 3.  He was playing very well all weekend from what I saw, and to finish 2nd in Brum and at least 3rd in Cardiff shows that he certainly knows what he's doing.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Royal Flush on February 26, 2007, 10:28:35 AM
Usually the place has results trip reports writeups but its all quiet...

Anyone wanna let me know what I missed?

That APAT's pro rules are a little looser then previously imagined.....


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 10:31:15 AM
Usually the place has results trip reports writeups but its all quiet...

Anyone wanna let me know what I missed?

That APAT's pro rules are a little looser then previously imagined.....

Did a pro play? can't leave ambiguous replies like that flushy...

voc?


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 10:46:16 AM
I guess its safe to say KingPoker never won.. in fact has he posted since... he was bigging up himself to take it all down in front of his home flock.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 10:57:30 AM
I guess its safe to say KingPoker never won.. in fact has he posted since... he was bigging up himself to take it all down in front of his home flock.

He certainly lasted longer than me!!



Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 10:59:04 AM
I guess its safe to say KingPoker never won.. in fact has he posted since... he was bigging up himself to take it all down in front of his home flock.

He certainly lasted longer than me!!



cant win them all dan.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 11:01:13 AM
I guess its safe to say KingPoker never won.. in fact has he posted since... he was bigging up himself to take it all down in front of his home flock.

He certainly lasted longer than me!!



cant win them all dan.

I'd have liked to win a hand or two though... :dontask:


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Pilf on February 26, 2007, 11:01:49 AM
Still no word on the winner eh? I'm sure all will be revealed shortly.
It looks like Mark Donnely will fly to the top of the overall rankings with his result (wherever he finished)
I just made it out of Cardiff before the big football exodus thanks to the game lasting over 100 minutes, phew.
I took 13th in the end, could have been much better but cest la vie.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 11:03:56 AM
Still no word on the winner eh? I'm sure all will be revealed shortly.
It looks like Mark Donnely will fly to the top of the overall rankings with his result (wherever he finished)
I just made it out of Cardiff before the big football exodus thanks to the game lasting over 100 minutes, phew.
I took 13th in the end, could have been much better but cest la vie.

You had a great tourney too - like a bloody yo-yo at times!!  Good result in the end :)up

Good to see you, Mark, and Jimmy going deep again. 


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 11:07:33 AM
You guys all coming up to scotland for the next one?


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 11:10:22 AM
Absolutely. 

Mark wasn't sure if he would be or not when I spoke to him on Day1.  I suggested we either drive up together (if not fly) and he was considering his options. 

I bet he'll be there now.  A trip to the Caribbean might go some way to persuade him!

Shame you missed this one, but I'm sure you'll have your eyes on the final table (and more) in Scotland.



Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Pilf on February 26, 2007, 11:17:33 AM
I'll definately be trying my luck up in Scotland.
Provided I can get a seat of course. I don't think I've ever ventured to Scotland before so it'll be a new experience for me.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 11:36:17 AM
I'll definately be trying my luck up in Scotland.
Provided I can get a seat of course. I don't think I've ever ventured to Scotland before so it'll be a new experience for me.

Don't forget your phrase book...


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: dougal7878 on February 26, 2007, 11:42:12 AM
Guys just to let u know i finished 2nd, pushed all in with q,7, Lee called me with a,10. i hit a 7 on the flop he spiked the 10 on the river......good game in all.....well done all APAT for another bosting touney


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: duncthehat on February 26, 2007, 11:46:54 AM
Well done Mark , respect man, you play a really great game.  So close again!!!!

Well done Lee you played a great day 2 and couldnt happen to a nicer bloke!!!!


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 11:49:01 AM
Brilliant stuff Mark - was backing you to take it down.  That's two silver medals now, and you'll have to come to Scotland now to get a third or go one better.

:)up


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: dougal7878 on February 26, 2007, 12:04:30 PM
tell me bout it....de ja vous heads up....oh well i can always melt the 2 silver into a gold plated medal!!!!! will probably be in Scotland.....need to sweet talk the wife first!!! chat latez


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2007, 12:18:27 PM
Sorry we could not Update from the Venue, we could not get the Vodafone Dubree to fire up.

It ended up a blonde 1-2.

The runner up was Mark Donnelly, blondeite dougal7878, who occupied the same position in the APAT English Amateur Chamnpionship at The Broadway - 2 x 2nd places, how gutted must he feel?

Winner was blondeite janjellis, (?), Lee Mulligan, who's a serving Major in the Army, & a most worthy winner. He made some quite spectacular calls, including, when getting a bit low in the semi, a call all-in with 4-5 suited in the BB against a persistently bullying deep-stacked SB. And, with three left, he Raised & got Re-Raised. He dwelt for fuly 3 minutes, staring down the re-Raiser all the time, & eventually called with J-T, to find his opponent holding.....5-3.

A young Lady called Linda Uliwiauk (spelling...) who won the British Ladies Open (or some such) at Star City last year was 5th, I think.

I don't have the other results to hand, but they'll be Posted on here later today by Tighty I expect, sorry, my mind has gone a blank, & I have a splitting headache, it was a hard & gruelling, but most rewarding, weekend. I'm getting too old for this lark when I can't remember the names of all the Finalists 24 hours later, sorry.

But kudos to the winner, Lee, he'll be a great ambassador for APAT, as were our previous two winners, Daniel & Max. Lee won £4,000, and a $9,000 EPT Dortmund package. Not bad value for £75, (and no juice)!

I'll Post other details as & when my mind clears, but huge thanks to Grosvenor Cardiff, & most especially Irene, blondeite Sean (S3an), & Gareth, they were magnificent.

Gareth, the assistant Card-Room Supervisor, told me he'd been dealing for 8 or 10 years, going back to the Isle of Man Poker Million, & he'd never seen a Tourney with such a friendly atmosphere in all that time. Happy days.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 12:18:50 PM
tell me bout it....de ja vous heads up....oh well i can always melt the 2 silver into a gold plated medal!!!!! will probably be in Scotland.....need to sweet talk the wife first!!! chat latez

Always the bridesmaid huh?

Nice score.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: MAF on February 26, 2007, 01:00:59 PM
Guys just to let u know i finished 2nd, pushed all in with q,7, Lee called me with a,10. i hit a 7 on the flop he spiked the 10 on the river......good game in all.....well done all APAT for another bosting touney
Congrats on another 2nd place Mark!  Although things could have been different if that judge's ruling went against you when down to the last 2 tables.  I was glad to see common sense prevail on that occasion.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 01:16:50 PM
Guys just to let u know i finished 2nd, pushed all in with q,7, Lee called me with a,10. i hit a 7 on the flop he spiked the 10 on the river......good game in all.....well done all APAT for another bosting touney
Congrats on another 2nd place Mark!  Although things could have been different if that judge's ruling went against you when down to the last 2 tables.  I was glad to see common sense prevail on that occasion.

What happened?


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Pilf on February 26, 2007, 01:26:46 PM
I saw that. Albeit from the other table. 99% sure this happened.
Early position All in, verbal declaration. Folded round to Mark in button I think. He announced Raise (Would prob have put him all in, not sure tho') as he hadn't heard the earlier all in. This was pointed out when he tried to raise less than the All in. TD called over to advise his declaration was binding, the original raiser however who had called the TD over accepted it was a genuine mistake and let him off the hook (I guess he was prob on a steal and didn't actually want a call)


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: MAF on February 26, 2007, 01:41:25 PM
I saw that. Albeit from the other table. 99% sure this happened.
Early position All in, verbal declaration. Folded round to Mark in button I think. He announced Raise (Would prob have put him all in, not sure tho') as he hadn't heard the earlier all in. This was pointed out when he tried to raise less than the All in. TD called over to advise his declaration was binding, the original raiser however who had called the TD over accepted it was a genuine mistake and let him off the hook (I guess he was prob on a steal and didn't actually want a call)
It happened on my table.  UTG guy verbally pushes but doesn't move his chips.  Mark was in SB and pushed.  He didn't see or hear the original raise (Mark was wearing his headphones at the time).  When someone pointed out there has been an earlier push, Mark mucked his cards.  The TD & Tikay got involved and Tikay explained that normally Mark should lose the equivilant in chips (UTG had about half of Mark's stack at the time).  However UTG conceeded it was a genuine mistake and let the matter pass. 

After speaking to the UTG guy afterwards, he didn't realise Mark had mucked and he was therefore entitled to his chips.  I think he was regretting being so lenient!


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: duncthehat on February 26, 2007, 01:44:14 PM
Yeah was on the table and still in the hand myself as was BB, Mark was SB  It was a genuine mistake and common sense prevailed.

Mark announced raise not realising utg was all in without moving his chips.  As soon as he realised he apologised and mucked.

Had he been forced to loose all his chips (as he had mucked)  (think he was the short stack against the all in) it would have forced me to call the orignal bet with my rags cos of the odds putting me all in..

It would have been a horrible way for Mark to go out,  admittedly the letter of the law says what it says but I think in the atmosphere and corinthian ethos of the tournament the right decision was made.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Suited_Jock on February 26, 2007, 01:52:32 PM
Always one for controversey... if it wasnt for me telling you a straight beats trips you'd have been on your way home at brum too ;)


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: MAF on February 26, 2007, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: duncthehat
Yeah was on the table and still in the hand myself as was BB
Duncthehat - didn't realise that was you.  (I should have looked at the photo in your avatar  ::) ).


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: KingPoker on February 26, 2007, 01:59:47 PM
Nah jock i didnt win it!! Never really got into the groove, went up to 17,000 max and just yo-yo'd really. Went short stacked twice. Mark was on my left on day 1 and we both went short stacked at around the same time, he got some cards just in time but what a player, great result for you and see you up in scotland hopefully mate.

I have to say Cardiff was definately best one yet and really good atmosphere. Nice to meet new faces, old faces and ugly faces (you know who you are). And also nices to meet some of the blonde regulars, even though they seemed more interested in my gf! GFY's lol.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: TightEnd on February 26, 2007, 02:17:33 PM
Just got back and my official report will be up on www.apat.com and across the media within a day or two.

as tikay says the winner was Lee Mulligan. He is on blonde as "jjandellis"

Quite a nice story this. A while back Lee posted on blonde along the lines of "I am really struggling poker wise, getting stuffed in rebuy comps..help" and indeed he received help both on the thread and via PMs.

Since then his live form has turned round culminating in his victory yesterday. An interivew with him will appear on blonde when he returns back to earth!

Mark Donnelly is now I beleive 5 points clear in the Player of the Year Rankings after his second runner up spot in three comps.

Third was Graham Cox from Bristol.

It was an excellent weekend enlivened by Sofa King, Colchester Kev, ericstoner walking and already my thoughts are turning to Scotland in April


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Eyeofsauron on February 26, 2007, 03:14:01 PM
A young Lady called Linda Uliwiauk (spelling...) who won the British Ladies Open (or some such) at Star City last year was 5th, I think.

Glad to read that Linda did well. She was sat on my immedinate right during 1000/2000 blinds. A very talented and difficult person to play against. I was happy to have her on my right hand side during the game. Well done Linda.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2007, 03:53:58 PM
A young Lady called Linda Uliwiauk (spelling...) who won the British Ladies Open (or some such) at Star City last year was 5th, I think.

Glad to read that Linda did well. She was sat on my immedinate right during 1000/2000 blinds. A very talented and difficult person to play against. I was happy to have her on my right hand side during the game. Well done Linda.

She sure was tough to play aganst! She got unlucky a few times, & that done her. She stole for England.....


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 03:56:43 PM
She was also lucky with a ruling as well....otherwise she could easily have been out in around 30th.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2007, 03:57:43 PM
Yeah was on the table and still in the hand myself as was BB, Mark was SB  It was a genuine mistake and common sense prevailed.

Mark announced raise not realising utg was all in without moving his chips.  As soon as he realised he apologised and mucked.

Had he been forced to loose all his chips (as he had mucked)  (think he was the short stack against the all in) it would have forced me to call the orignal bet with my rags cos of the odds putting me all in..

It would have been a horrible way for Mark to go out,  admittedly the letter of the law says what it says but I think in the atmosphere and corinthian ethos of the tournament the right decision was made.

That's about right. Technically, a bad decision by me, but in the spirit of the occasion, & every single player at the table agreed it was the correct decision in the circumstances. Mark will never wear an i-Pod at the table again! And top marks to the original Raiser for suggesting leniancy.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2007, 03:59:39 PM
She was also lucky with a ruling as well....otherwise she could easily have been out in around 30th.

That was much more complicated, & less clear-cut, & it was a close call, but there were no complaints in the end. Common sense prevailed. I expected to get some grief on that, but hey, such is life.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 04:26:16 PM
She was also lucky with a ruling as well....otherwise she could easily have been out in around 30th.

That was much more complicated, & less clear-cut, & it was a close call, but there were no complaints in the end. Common sense prevailed. I expected to get some grief on that, but hey, such is life.

I think the ruling on that one was in the spirit of the APAT and I didn't hear any of the players complain.  A different competition and a less friendly ethos, she'd have been going out.  I think the right decision was made, was just saying she was lucky in that regard.



Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2007, 04:35:04 PM
She was also lucky with a ruling as well....otherwise she could easily have been out in around 30th.

That was much more complicated, & less clear-cut, & it was a close call, but there were no complaints in the end. Common sense prevailed. I expected to get some grief on that, but hey, such is life.

I think the ruling on that one was in the spirit of the APAT and I didn't hear any of the players complain.  A different competition and a less friendly ethos, she'd have been going out.  I think the right decision was made, was just saying she was lucky in that regard.



The problem with this one is that the evidence was less clear-cut, & there were several differing opinions as to exactly what happened, as to whether the Dealer took her hand, or whether she pushed her hand to the Dealer, thinking she'd won. In the circumstances, as we could not be 100% sure of the chain of events, we ruled in her favour. The way it played out, in fact, it would only have cost her 1 Big Blind, so it was no big deal really.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2007, 05:09:58 PM
She was also lucky with a ruling as well....otherwise she could easily have been out in around 30th.

That was much more complicated, & less clear-cut, & it was a close call, but there were no complaints in the end. Common sense prevailed. I expected to get some grief on that, but hey, such is life.

I think the ruling on that one was in the spirit of the APAT and I didn't hear any of the players complain.  A different competition and a less friendly ethos, she'd have been going out.  I think the right decision was made, was just saying she was lucky in that regard.



The problem with this one is that the evidence was less clear-cut, & there were several differing opinions as to exactly what happened, as to whether the Dealer took her hand, or whether she pushed her hand to the Dealer, thinking she'd won. In the circumstances, as we could not be 100% sure of the chain of events, we ruled in her favour. The way it played out, in fact, it would only have cost her 1 Big Blind, so it was no big deal really.

Even if the BB had decided to raise?


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on February 26, 2007, 05:44:33 PM
Congrats to the blondes that made the money, especially those I shared table time with.

Just wanted to add my congratulations to the Cardiff Grosvenor team who did a brilliant job over the weekend.  Its a great place to play poker and I hope to return there at some point.

Well done guys.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: dougal7878 on February 26, 2007, 06:20:51 PM
Pretty sure my  Kd 9d would have stood up against that controversial decision when i announced raise with the already all in. Hands up, was a genuine arse of an error. I was mightly grateful with the decision that was decided. Had it of gone the other way i wouldn't of been happy, but i would have had to accept it. Apologies to all involved.......will only wear one hearphone from now on!.....Cheers Roberto.


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2007, 06:27:22 PM
She was also lucky with a ruling as well....otherwise she could easily have been out in around 30th.

That was much more complicated, & less clear-cut, & it was a close call, but there were no complaints in the end. Common sense prevailed. I expected to get some grief on that, but hey, such is life.

I think the ruling on that one was in the spirit of the APAT and I didn't hear any of the players complain.  A different competition and a less friendly ethos, she'd have been going out.  I think the right decision was made, was just saying she was lucky in that regard.



The problem with this one is that the evidence was less clear-cut, & there were several differing opinions as to exactly what happened, as to whether the Dealer took her hand, or whether she pushed her hand to the Dealer, thinking she'd won. In the circumstances, as we could not be 100% sure of the chain of events, we ruled in her favour. The way it played out, in fact, it would only have cost her 1 Big Blind, so it was no big deal really.

Even if the BB had decided to raise?
lmost certainly have panned oot differently as to the Ruling.

As luck would have it, he did not, so that made the decision easier! If he had moved in, it would have almost certainly have panned out differently as to the Ruling. I saw no no need to go looking for trouble!


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: Bigfella on February 26, 2007, 06:51:16 PM
From me, a big thank you to Tikay, Tighty, Des et al for another gret event. The concept of APAT is great as it gives playes like myself a chance to develop their deep stack game in a great environment. After finishing ahead of a grand total of 4 people at APAT Birmingham, I beat over 120 this time so with the same improvement it looks like I'm winning the next one! I blame my mediocre performance on arriving at the casino on the Friday night and staggering out at about 4.30 in the morning after too many Magners to count! Still, I expect my preparation in Scotland to be pretty similar lol..

Great to meet old and make new friends - a great advantage of continually busting out early is you get to talk to so many more people. I know these things take a lot of organising and the poker community that attend these events are all genuine poker enthusiasts with varying levels of experience. I know I still have much to learn in the game but I honestly feel I am learning and developing as a result in playing the APAT events. I know the hands I played badly and I feel that these mistakes are a result of most of my play being in shorter turbo type events where you have to make moves much earlier. It's great fun when they work, but quite dangerous when reraising with  Ad 2d against an opponent holding  Ac Kc lol! I reckon that come Scotland I will be a disciplined rock so remember to respect my raises ;ashamed;

It was great to see Brendan do so well although quite honestly I always expect that - he is a real grinder who knows how to play these events. A special weekend for him in many ways. Also I feel JonMW deserves a pat on the back for making it into day two - his game has really come on in recent months which is great to see.

Look forward to seeing you all in Scotland or at BB4 if sooner.  Thanks again APAT peeps... you're the nuts!   


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2007, 07:02:03 PM

Thanks Big Man, see you in Scotland!


Title: Re: So how did APAT cardiff go??
Post by: RichD on February 26, 2007, 07:41:32 PM
Well done on coming 2nd Mark, seeing you double up over and over was the inspiration for me folding my BB with  8c 4s leaving myself with not even 2 BB's.Probably one the worst descisions ever, and folding my SB cos I needed the toilet was probably even worse !

Well done to Lee!