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 sneaking back into it

 remarkable results , no matter the outcome

Now 37 (Lab) to 34 (SNP)  ....... this will be decided on the River by the looks of it   ;popcorn;

huh

i wrote an email to the SNP last week, unforunately they didnt reply

i have been a life long indepance voter but there recent campaign lost my vote

if they had fought it on the old adage vote SNP get an idependant scotland i would of voted for them

but the fact they are now campaigning on vote SNP get alex salamon and there other policy inculding

no nukes mean that i can no longer support them the SNP in power will be bad for scotland and for

that reason i am praying for the status quo

in future i hope the SNP go back to vote SNP and get indepance stance

ps the election is a shambles andhow 100,000 scots are too stupid to work out how to vote

is a disgrace

C'MON THE QUO

well,you kno,glorious day, Buckfast wine flowing, it`s hard make a X in the correct box, any way, who ever heard of only 1 X,as far as I`ve always known it`s always XXX!

I'm no fan of the SNP and im strongly against independence, but anything which removes Joke McConnell from power has to be embraced.

not sure who the best of the bad bunch would be,McConnell or Salmond?
they should have something like a national vote on that or something?!

well if we got an independant scotland we could choose who we want to lead us and not have to choose in an election 1 shower of **** or another

ok maybe we dont get that choice i just remembered the choice we have in westminster

elections are always between Who? ( Re southpark) was it a giant turd v something or whatnot??

mabye a turd sandwich & a giant something else??

If they cant even work out the ballot papers how would they manage to run the country.


Viva the Occupation.  rotflmfao

I think the SNP have clearly set out their agenda - Vote SNP for a referendum on independence.  Of course the Nats still have Independence at the height of their manifesto but sometimes a different tact is required.  Before we get anywhere near an independent scotland we have to break the Labour power base, slowly but surely the SNP are doing that.  In the seats where Labour have held their vote the SNP have in the majority made huge inroads into their majority.

I will support any any political party that breaks the strength of the Union.  A vote for Labour is a vote for the Status Quo and we will never ever be given an opportunity under them to vote for independence.  I abhor the scare tactics that have been put in place by New Labour to put off many Scots from voting for the SNP. 

I am not a 100% behind the SNP policies but they are the only option if we want an independence referendum.

Labour has failed Scotland for so many years, the party is as corrupt as they come and its run by cronies, criminals and self preservationists! 

The fact that Scottish Labour who where responsible for the introduction of this new counting system which has failed the people of scotalnd and rendered many ballots void shows the shambles that they are.

I have to agree with Ironside here how could an Independent Scotland hope to keep the English from invading again without their own nuclear deterrant.

the promblem here bandit is that i dont fancy being ruled for the next 4 years by the SNP

infact there is only 1 or 2 of there policy i support and think scotland will become a joke and

weaker in the world if we get a SNP controlled assembly

my best bet is to wait for the general election and vote for the SNP there

if the SNP get a good showing there and get a large number of seats it would be safer due to the fact they wont get any power

with there seats but will make the case for independance

geezer i know your post is tongue in cheek but an independant scotland wont have its own nuclear detterant but it will be part of NATO and should support and even host nuclear weapons

without these weapons KEEPING THE PEACE i would not be happy in the armed forces

These weapons that Britain's not in a position to fire? - We own the missiles but the warheads aren't british owned & launching them is not solely in britains control. - sheer lunacy in my opinion.

As for all the rest I amazingly am in pretty much agreement with you. The SNP annoy me by wanting to be a party in power, instead of purely a focus point to push for independance, then we can vote along a traditional party system.

Do the Isle of Man make the same argument re. nuclear weapons?

Here are some of the close run seats where SNP increased their vote by a considerable margin but just failed to win.  Hopefully the SNP to get to take power then the people in these areas who stuck with "New Labour - Conservatives in the Closet"  will vote SNP next time if they manage to run a well balance and efficient parliment.

Aberdeen Central - SNP + 5.7% - Labour majority 1.8%
Aberdeen South - SNP + 12.8% - Lib Dem majority 9.2%
Aberdeen West Kincardinshire - SNP + 12.1% Lib Dem majority 14.8%
Aidrie & Shotts SNP + 17.6% - Labour majority 5.3%
Caithness & Easter Ross - SNP - 12.3% - Lib Dem majority 10.4%
Carrick Cummnock and Doon Valley - SNP 13.8% - Lab majority 11.8%
Clydesdale SNP + 7.7% - Lab majority 8.3%
Cunningham South - SNP - 12.3% Lab majority - 9.2%
Dumbarton SNP + 14.2% Lab majority 5.3%
East Kilbride SNP + 12.1% Lab majority 5.5%
East Lothian SNP + 12.8% Lab majority 7%
Falkirk East SNP + 9.8% Lab majority 6.2%
Glasgow Anniesland SNP + 10.4% Lab Majority 19.5%
Glasgow Cathcart SNP + 12.7% - Lab Majority 10.1%
Glasgow Kelvin SNP + 7.6% Labour Majority 5.1%
Glasgow Maryhill SNP + 14.2% Lab majority 13.9%
Greenock & Inverclyde SNP + 15.4% Lab Majority 13.1%


Thats only a sample of the vote and the SNP have increased there vote in a number of other Labour Strongholds including Glasgow Bailleston, Glasgow Shettleston, Glasgow Springburn, Glasgow Pollock, Hamilton South, Hamilton North and Bellshill, Linlithgow, Midlothian, Motherwell & Wishaw, Orkney, Ross & Skye, Strathkelvin and Bearsden, Tweeddale, Ett & Lauder,

As it stands the SNP have gaines 17 seats.  Labour hold a majority of 3 with 30 seats still to be decided.  Unfortunatelt its looking like Labour may just hold on to be the domainat party but the inroads of SNP have made is, IMO a mandate for the Scottish people to be given a referendum on independence.

the SNP has made alot of gains but will lose seats on the lists although they should still finish within 1 seat of labour

problem now lies that the libs dont have enough seats to form a government and neither the SNP or labout will form a government with the tories which means that we will have a goernment that wont get anything done

I am 100% opposed to Scotland being associated with Nuclear Weapons.  There is no ned for us to have them, especially not if we where to rid ourselves of the loonies who actually support these mass murdering machines. 

I think that the SNP have to push to be in power simply to show the Scottish people - who are not 100% convinced by independence - that they can govern and also that they have the political savy to move scotland forward and give a base for the pople to flourish. 


The dissapointing thing for me is the lack of votes the minority parties have managed to muster, in particular the Green Party, I thought they where doing a fairly decent job and where a breathe of fresh air in the parliment.  They performed much better than the trots from the SSP.  Who IMO devalued socialism and where more intent on self publicism and ego wars.

Do you think that Iran, NorthKorea etc should be allowed to KEEP THE PEACE too.

I don't know if thats a bad thing Ironside I for one will be glad o see the back of that Lib Lab pack.  it was a joke and lacked backbone and direction.  Maybe, just maybe we will see more consensus politics if the seats that are to be decided work out as forecast.

You guys got it easy lol. My local choices were:

Conservative
Conservative
Conservative
Lib Dem
Disgruntled Conservative standing as an Independent. (Cos he didn't make the shortlist)


I get up to three picks... ::)

bandit as a lifelong SNP supporter i KNOW they cant govern
but the reason i voted for them was the fact that a vote for the SNP has always been
a vote for an indepenant country and not for the SNP to govern

after we get independance we can then split down our tradition lines

where i think we would then be on opposing side, but thats both our right

Thing that pisses me off about politics is that nobody can lose with diginity.

If Lab win (as looks likely), Alex Salmond has just been on saying that Labour have no moral authority to govern. Why the hell do we have elcetions then?
 
I'm glad this chap didn't get in, he seems intent that Hollyrood will either be his, or so weak as to make no difference. Irresponsible if you ask me.

SNP 40-Labour 39 -West of Scotland just announced - waiting for the update on the Beeb.

3 regions left:

North East - Labour will gain 2-3 regional seats here.
Highlands and Islands - Labour to gain 2 here.
Edinburgh - 2 constituencies left, if SNP take 1, I'd expect SNP to get 3 more regionals.

Prediction: Labour 44 SNP 43 :( - hope I'm wrong......

snp 42 labour 41 i hear

At least one good thing about an SNP win would be that Ironside might stand a chance of correctly answering 'Hey, Scotsman, what's the name of your own First Minister?' questions in quizzes...

i said it would be alex salmon this week

He'll be right though (let's face it they didn't really have much authority to govern anyway - dodgy coallition).

Salmond knows if he gets in he's not going to last long. Win independance, a Scottish Labour party would win the ffirst election (hopefully a socialist one). Lose an Independance vote, he's a lame duck & he'll be ousted. He's got one shot if things work out & he needs to demonstate the ineffectiveness of Labour & the Lib Dems to get it.

btw andrew if you lived in scotland you would be struggling to keep up with the party shaningans too

if we get indepandance i hope the SNP do what they have promised all these years and disolve

allowing a more balanced political landscape

Schenannigans like the leader's name

Where is Scotland? ;popcorn;

The bitty above the big English car park, it's where they film the Harry wizard films.

latest predictions woul mean the lib/lab pack would be able to form a government with the slenderist of majorities

dont ask me if its a working majority i think there is 1 seat in it depend on how many indpentant/greens get in in the final few counts

tantrum any time you want to see gods country "scotland" let me know just dont mention trains

Offer taken, I will be flying there in August, so will need a guide...

where you flying too?

Edinburgh

grrrrrrrrrrrrr

edinburgh is 4hrs 30 mins away from me i will make a trip south just for you

I think I will be there for a week, maybe can take few days off for a short break, not sure when as it all depends on the festival.  we will organise something.

The Festival? You a comedian, or a juggler, or summat? Banjo-ist?

SNP win with 47 v 46 seats

i think all the votes are now in

I will be looking after some actors which means I will be there as a psychiatrist...

How on earth can Edinburgh be 4 and half hours south of anywhere?

How much more north can there be?

edinburgh is the south of scotland

Exactly. Iron lives between Norway & the Arctic Circle I think. Near a jam factory, as it happens. (Honest!)

Ironside, are you santa claus?

soup and jam


called baxters of speyside

claw why what you want me to put in your stockings?

surprise me :)

theres an offer i cant refuse

Thanks again for the six inchers you slipped me and Tantrum on Saturday btw  :kiss:(in Subway)

what would be good about independance?

FREEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!

rac route map from baxters (2 minutes from my house) to the maybury casino (one of the closest places to get to in edinburgh)

routemap (http://routeplanner.rac.co.uk//showrouting.php?map24_sid=WyPVI6Q9BsOOQ1ue220N1SVuUhsVrxITyATmsZmYeCHnq0ePjN.4AIk/t1Gp4IviXkGYRyN6i2Vpk7oJub5n/A&t=3b88b19b9c147fd527a9575ca6b0b852)

according to the route map its 4 hours 22 minutes away that doesnt include the time need to take a break from driving

LMAO Claw, classic.



Geo

I think youll find that since labour has been in power there has been a significant decrease in poverty(financial) in Scotland. Theres no denying that. I am not a labour supporter and believe the socialists would have dont a better job on  my priority policy of abolishing povery.
Im glald SNP have got more seats. Its a historical day:)

you will always be at the beck and call of Englands green and pleasant land.

you want your country to be run by people who cant do it? they get independance and then muck it up? no thanks!! i want independence but dont want the country run into the ground. whatever party is in, the civil servants will make sure the country runs, no matter what party is in power

 dont count on it

i want my country run by people who can thats why i dont want the SNP in power with there idiotinc solicist policies (thats just my views) but i want an independant scotland

up untill this election the snp policy was vote for us and as soon as we win will will get a free scotland and they would disband

now that they stood a chance to deleiver they have changed there minds and want to run the country so i can no longer support them

who do you think actually runs the country??  if you think its the politicians your kidding yourself on:)

I tend to think we have the lesser of 2 evils with SNP winning the most seats so long as the Scottish public vote no to independence in any referendum (which I'm confident they will).  Pretty historical day though.

its quiet cute that you think the SNP have socialist policies. The have become more right wing year on year. they are funded by some of scotlands richest right wing people, including religious fanatics and anti abortionists

couldnt agree more

 who do you think runs the country mad if you dont think it is the politicians

its a Known fact that all thought the SNP are futher to the left that labour thaey are supported by many tories that are not intrested in the union

if/when we get independance the many tory/labour fight will return and we can get a more balanced parliement rather that the wishywashy left wing power struggle we have now

Lizzards of course

mad is right the civil servants run the country but if a government has enough power they can make the civil servants job very hard just look at what thatcher did when she had 140+ majority

as i said in the previous post, its the civil servants, they are the only constant in any local and national government changes. the political people make the policy however but its the staff who run and manage the country

 but you agree the politicians make the final decision on policies and legislation ?
 
 ie they are at the top of the order , like a board of directors at a company making the final decisions.

 surely then they run the country , the civil servants may be in positions of power within the infrastructure of a country.

 ie local councils , county representatives - at all levels , but they are still under the orders of the people above , the politicians , they have the power , and that is why they are all so desperate to be in charge.

I don't know if it's just me but, whether you agree with independence or not, is it not farcical that you have parties running on a platform of not putting an issue to the vote. It's a special kind of idiocy that has people voting to have their democratic rights reduced. I'm with Billy Connelly, voting just encourages these clowns.

yes i agree with what you say. the policy makers sit at the top of the pile but theres no getting away from who runs the country. its like your board of directors example. they make the policy but they dont run the company if you get my meaning?

The power and who holds the power is not as straightforward.  You forget about lobbyists and other pressure groups that heavily influence the policies of the country. I will repeat - the lizards have real power.

I accept I may put myself up for some flaming here, however thought I had to give my take on it all.

I personally am a great believer in strength in numbers. Cannot see what all the fuss is about whether we have an Independent Scotland/Wales etc. Britain became a great nation through the endeavours of all four nations.

I class myself as British, born and raised in Scotland and therefore by birth a Scot. I pride myself in the fact that over the years us Brits have always tried to assist others less fortunate than ourselves, WW1 and WW2, the 1st Gulf war etc. We as a nation provide more per head of population than any other nation towards assisting those less fortunate than ourselves. Whilst others like the French and italians have shirked their responsibilities to other nations.

We will always have rivalry between the nations and I believe rivalry is good, without it life would be boring. Imagine football without the derby matches? This last weekend we had BB4 and there was intense rivalry in not only the poker (would it really be as good a game if we all turned up not bothered whether we win or lose?) but the football and the quiz. Whilst everyone was all out to win each of these events, win or lose we all congratulated the winners regardless of where they came from.

Even within each nation we have rivalry - In Scotland its East/West and in Enland it is North/South for example. It doesn't stop us getting together in times of need to help each other when required.

IMHO I believe we would be weaker without the union and I have many friends and family members both sides of the border. If we spent less time trying to prove whom amongst us could do a better job and more time pulling all our resources together to ensure this nation became stronger we could all benefit.

Just my simple and honest beliefs, have never been excited about politics, I prefer common sense.

Geo.

i agree but if you dont vote, you allow the opportunity for some right wing groups to organise themselves to make sure they vote and i dont think Scotland would like that. our culture and right wing policy would be a clash from hell

thats whats in your heart and thats good, but sometimes smaller is better:)

Lol - like a mdget in a Limbo comp?

 so who are the lizards tantrum ??

david ikes mob?

Tantrum is right. I was down in Westminster earlier today and took this photograph.

(http://www.londonist.com/attachments/Matt/lizardmen_of_london.jpg)

Excellent post.

 i remeber listening to him once and thought he knew what he was talking about for a while , until he said the queen was an alien lizard mutant creature thingy , and then i thought ' how can this guy ever be taken serious again ' omg

and i thought that was true:)

tantrum
power i think is different than the operations of a country. the people that lobby do a good job to keep up the pressure but usually results in half baked policy that causes nothing except more bureaucracy.