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« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2007, 07:06:57 PM »


 dont count on it
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« Reply #61 on: May 04, 2007, 07:10:53 PM »

bandit as a lifelong SNP supporter i KNOW they cant govern
but the reason i voted for them was the fact that a vote for the SNP has always been
a vote for an indepenant country and not for the SNP to govern

after we get independance we can then split down our tradition lines

where i think we would then be on opposing side, but thats both our right

you want your country to be run by people who cant do it? they get independance and then muck it up? no thanks!! i want independence but dont want the country run into the ground. whatever party is in, the civil servants will make sure the country runs, no matter what party is in power

i want my country run by people who can thats why i dont want the SNP in power with there idiotinc solicist policies (thats just my views) but i want an independant scotland

up untill this election the snp policy was vote for us and as soon as we win will will get a free scotland and they would disband

now that they stood a chance to deleiver they have changed there minds and want to run the country so i can no longer support them
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« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2007, 07:11:51 PM »


 dont count on it

who do you think actually runs the country??  if you think its the politicians your kidding yourself on:)
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« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2007, 07:13:50 PM »

I tend to think we have the lesser of 2 evils with SNP winning the most seats so long as the Scottish public vote no to independence in any referendum (which I'm confident they will).  Pretty historical day though.
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« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2007, 07:14:48 PM »

bandit as a lifelong SNP supporter i KNOW they cant govern
but the reason i voted for them was the fact that a vote for the SNP has always been
a vote for an indepenant country and not for the SNP to govern

after we get independance we can then split down our tradition lines

where i think we would then be on opposing side, but thats both our right

you want your country to be run by people who cant do it? they get independance and then muck it up? no thanks!! i want independence but dont want the country run into the ground. whatever party is in, the civil servants will make sure the country runs, no matter what party is in power

i want my country run by people who can thats why i dont want the SNP in power with there idiotinc solicist policies (thats just my views) but i want an independant scotland

up untill this election the snp policy was vote for us and as soon as we win will will get a free scotland and they would disband

now that they stood a chance to deleiver they have changed there minds and want to run the country so i can no longer support them
its quiet cute that you think the SNP have socialist policies. The have become more right wing year on year. they are funded by some of scotlands richest right wing people, including religious fanatics and anti abortionists
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« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2007, 07:15:34 PM »

I tend to think we have the lesser of 2 evils with SNP winning the most seats so long as the Scottish public vote no to independence in any referendum (which I'm confident they will).  Pretty historical day though.
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« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2007, 07:17:21 PM »


 who do you think runs the country mad if you dont think it is the politicians
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« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2007, 07:18:30 PM »

its a Known fact that all thought the SNP are futher to the left that labour thaey are supported by many tories that are not intrested in the union

if/when we get independance the many tory/labour fight will return and we can get a more balanced parliement rather that the wishywashy left wing power struggle we have now
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« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2007, 07:19:11 PM »


 who do you think runs the country mad if you dont think it is the politicians

Lizzards of course
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« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2007, 07:19:58 PM »

mad is right the civil servants run the country but if a government has enough power they can make the civil servants job very hard just look at what thatcher did when she had 140+ majority
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« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2007, 07:22:55 PM »


 who do you think runs the country mad if you dont think it is the politicians

as i said in the previous post, its the civil servants, they are the only constant in any local and national government changes. the political people make the policy however but its the staff who run and manage the country
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« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2007, 07:27:33 PM »


 but you agree the politicians make the final decision on policies and legislation ?
 
 ie they are at the top of the order , like a board of directors at a company making the final decisions.

 surely then they run the country , the civil servants may be in positions of power within the infrastructure of a country.

 ie local councils , county representatives - at all levels , but they are still under the orders of the people above , the politicians , they have the power , and that is why they are all so desperate to be in charge.
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« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2007, 07:29:26 PM »

I don't know if it's just me but, whether you agree with independence or not, is it not farcical that you have parties running on a platform of not putting an issue to the vote. It's a special kind of idiocy that has people voting to have their democratic rights reduced. I'm with Billy Connelly, voting just encourages these clowns.
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« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2007, 07:30:46 PM »


 but you agree the politicians make the final decision on policies and legislation ?
 
 ie they are at the top of the order , like a board of directors at a company making the final decisions.

 surely then they run the country , the civil servants may be in positions of power within the infrastructure of a country.

 ie local councils , county representatives - at all levels , but they are still under the orders of the people above , the politicians , they have the power , and that is why they are all so desperate to be in charge.
yes i agree with what you say. the policy makers sit at the top of the pile but theres no getting away from who runs the country. its like your board of directors example. they make the policy but they dont run the company if you get my meaning?
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« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2007, 07:31:59 PM »


 but you agree the politicians make the final decision on policies and legislation ?
 
 ie they are at the top of the order , like a board of directors at a company making the final decisions.

 surely then they run the country , the civil servants may be in positions of power within the infrastructure of a country.

 ie local councils , county representatives - at all levels , but they are still under the orders of the people above , the politicians , they have the power , and that is why they are all so desperate to be in charge.

The power and who holds the power is not as straightforward.  You forget about lobbyists and other pressure groups that heavily influence the policies of the country. I will repeat - the lizards have real power.
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