'mon the SNP

[Ironside]

geezer i know your post is tongue in cheek but an independant scotland wont have its own nuclear detterant but it will be part of NATO and should support and even host nuclear weapons

without these weapons KEEPING THE PEACE i would not be happy in the armed forces

[Rod Paradise]

geezer i know your post is tongue in cheek but an independant scotland wont have its own nuclear detterant but it will be part of NATO and should support and even host nuclear weapons

without these weapons KEEPING THE PEACE i would not be happy in the armed forces

These weapons that Britain's not in a position to fire? - We own the missiles but the warheads aren't british owned & launching them is not solely in britains control. - sheer lunacy in my opinion.

As for all the rest I amazingly am in pretty much agreement with you. The SNP annoy me by wanting to be a party in power, instead of purely a focus point to push for independance, then we can vote along a traditional party system.

[thetank]

Do the Isle of Man make the same argument re. nuclear weapons?

[GlasgowBandit]

Here are some of the close run seats where SNP increased their vote by a considerable margin but just failed to win.  Hopefully the SNP to get to take power then the people in these areas who stuck with "New Labour - Conservatives in the Closet"  will vote SNP next time if they manage to run a well balance and efficient parliment.

Aberdeen Central - SNP + 5.7% - Labour majority 1.8%
Aberdeen South - SNP + 12.8% - Lib Dem majority 9.2%
Aberdeen West Kincardinshire - SNP + 12.1% Lib Dem majority 14.8%
Aidrie & Shotts SNP + 17.6% - Labour majority 5.3%
Caithness & Easter Ross - SNP - 12.3% - Lib Dem majority 10.4%
Carrick Cummnock and Doon Valley - SNP 13.8% - Lab majority 11.8%
Clydesdale SNP + 7.7% - Lab majority 8.3%
Cunningham South - SNP - 12.3% Lab majority - 9.2%
Dumbarton SNP + 14.2% Lab majority 5.3%
East Kilbride SNP + 12.1% Lab majority 5.5%
East Lothian SNP + 12.8% Lab majority 7%
Falkirk East SNP + 9.8% Lab majority 6.2%
Glasgow Anniesland SNP + 10.4% Lab Majority 19.5%
Glasgow Cathcart SNP + 12.7% - Lab Majority 10.1%
Glasgow Kelvin SNP + 7.6% Labour Majority 5.1%
Glasgow Maryhill SNP + 14.2% Lab majority 13.9%
Greenock & Inverclyde SNP + 15.4% Lab Majority 13.1%


Thats only a sample of the vote and the SNP have increased there vote in a number of other Labour Strongholds including Glasgow Bailleston, Glasgow Shettleston, Glasgow Springburn, Glasgow Pollock, Hamilton South, Hamilton North and Bellshill, Linlithgow, Midlothian, Motherwell & Wishaw, Orkney, Ross & Skye, Strathkelvin and Bearsden, Tweeddale, Ett & Lauder,

As it stands the SNP have gaines 17 seats.  Labour hold a majority of 3 with 30 seats still to be decided.  Unfortunatelt its looking like Labour may just hold on to be the domainat party but the inroads of SNP have made is, IMO a mandate for the Scottish people to be given a referendum on independence.

[Ironside]

the SNP has made alot of gains but will lose seats on the lists although they should still finish within 1 seat of labour

problem now lies that the libs dont have enough seats to form a government and neither the SNP or labout will form a government with the tories which means that we will have a goernment that wont get anything done

[GlasgowBandit]

I am 100% opposed to Scotland being associated with Nuclear Weapons.  There is no ned for us to have them, especially not if we where to rid ourselves of the loonies who actually support these mass murdering machines. 

I think that the SNP have to push to be in power simply to show the Scottish people - who are not 100% convinced by independence - that they can govern and also that they have the political savy to move scotland forward and give a base for the pople to flourish. 


The dissapointing thing for me is the lack of votes the minority parties have managed to muster, in particular the Green Party, I thought they where doing a fairly decent job and where a breathe of fresh air in the parliment.  They performed much better than the trots from the SSP.  Who IMO devalued socialism and where more intent on self publicism and ego wars.

[CelticGeezeer]

geezer i know your post is tongue in cheek but an independant scotland wont have its own nuclear detterant but it will be part of NATO and should support and even host nuclear weapons

without these weapons KEEPING THE PEACE i would not be happy in the armed forces

Do you think that Iran, NorthKorea etc should be allowed to KEEP THE PEACE too.

[GlasgowBandit]

the SNP has made alot of gains but will lose seats on the lists although they should still finish within 1 seat of labour

problem now lies that the libs dont have enough seats to form a government and neither the SNP or labout will form a government with the tories which means that we will have a goernment that wont get anything done

I don't know if thats a bad thing Ironside I for one will be glad o see the back of that Lib Lab pack.  it was a joke and lacked backbone and direction.  Maybe, just maybe we will see more consensus politics if the seats that are to be decided work out as forecast.

[NoflopsHomer]

You guys got it easy lol. My local choices were:

Conservative
Conservative
Conservative
Lib Dem
Disgruntled Conservative standing as an Independent. (Cos he didn't make the shortlist)


I get up to three picks...

[Ironside]

bandit as a lifelong SNP supporter i KNOW they cant govern
but the reason i voted for them was the fact that a vote for the SNP has always been
a vote for an indepenant country and not for the SNP to govern

after we get independance we can then split down our tradition lines

where i think we would then be on opposing side, but thats both our right

[thetank]

Thing that pisses me off about politics is that nobody can lose with diginity.

If Lab win (as looks likely), Alex Salmond has just been on saying that Labour have no moral authority to govern. Why the hell do we have elcetions then?
 
I'm glad this chap didn't get in, he seems intent that Hollyrood will either be his, or so weak as to make no difference. Irresponsible if you ask me.

[Rod Paradise]

SNP 40-Labour 39 -West of Scotland just announced - waiting for the update on the Beeb.

3 regions left:

North East - Labour will gain 2-3 regional seats here.
Highlands and Islands - Labour to gain 2 here.
Edinburgh - 2 constituencies left, if SNP take 1, I'd expect SNP to get 3 more regionals.

Prediction: Labour 44 SNP 43 - hope I'm wrong......

[Ironside]

snp 42 labour 41 i hear

[AndrewT]

At least one good thing about an SNP win would be that Ironside might stand a chance of correctly answering 'Hey, Scotsman, what's the name of your own First Minister?' questions in quizzes...

[Ironside]

i said it would be alex salmon this week