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Title: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 08, 2007, 02:30:41 PM
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/list/rejected

Some of these are priceless. Just got a note from Gordon Brown to tell me mine had been rejected too :( :(
Democracy? Pfffffffft.......


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 08, 2007, 02:34:17 PM
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/FlushyforMod/


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: ifm on August 08, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
"It was intended to be humorous, or have no point about government policy"

LOL


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: boldie on August 08, 2007, 06:32:38 PM
lol..this again goes to show democracy is a shitty system...these people actually have the right to vote?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 08, 2007, 06:43:17 PM
lol..this again goes to show democracy is a shitty system...these people actually have the right to vote?
Watch an episode of 'Jeremy Kyle' and you get a decent idea of who comprises most of the UK, and remember that the 'Sun' is by far the most popular newspaper (12M readers), then shudder in fear as you realise that this is who decides who will be running your country.
If, in the unfortunate event that you were wrongly prosecuted for a serious crime and brought before a jury, it is the same ones who would be deciding the small matter of your liberty.
I agree with the 'Borat for PM' sentiment entirely, however. Is nice!


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: boldie on August 08, 2007, 09:56:58 PM
lol..this again goes to show democracy is a shitty system...these people actually have the right to vote?
Watch an episode of 'Jeremy Kyle' and you get a decent idea of who comprises most of the UK, and remember that the 'Sun' is by far the most popular newspaper (12M readers), then shudder in fear as you realise that this is who decides who will be running your country.
If, in the unfortunate event that you were wrongly prosecuted for a serious crime and brought before a jury, it is the same ones who would be deciding the small matter of your liberty.
I agree with the 'Borat for PM' sentiment entirely, however. Is nice!

yeah i know...it's a sad state of affairs this world has gotten itsself into.

I used to be proud to be Dutch, after all we had the multi cultural society pretty much figured out 9 or 10 years ago..everything was cool. We we're fairly liberal and happy.

The last few years there has been an unhealthy right-wing trend in Holland..very nasty stuff...and this week a Dutch politician (MP) actually called for the Koran to be banned as "it's an Arab's Mein Kampf" (and loads of people voted for this guy)...man I hate being dutch now :(



Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: madasahatstand on August 08, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
lol..this again goes to show democracy is a shitty system...these people actually have the right to vote?
Watch an episode of 'Jeremy Kyle' and you get a decent idea of who comprises most of the UK, and remember that the 'Sun' is by far the most popular newspaper (12M readers), then shudder in fear as you realise that this is who decides who will be running your country.
If, in the unfortunate event that you were wrongly prosecuted for a serious crime and brought before a jury, it is the same ones who would be deciding the small matter of your liberty.
I agree with the 'Borat for PM' sentiment entirely, however. Is nice!

yeah i know...it's a sad state of affairs this world has gotten itsself into.

I used to be proud to be Dutch, after all we had the multi cultural society pretty much figured out 9 or 10 years ago..everything was cool. We we're fairly liberal and happy.

The last few years there has been an unhealthy right-wing trend in Holland..very nasty stuff...and this week a Dutch politician (MP) actually called for the Koran to be banned as "it's an Arab's Mein Kampf" (and loads of people voted for this guy)...man I hate being dutch now :(



Being Dutch is something to be proud of!  What's happening there thats allowed the right wingers to gain power?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: bolt pp on August 08, 2007, 10:08:31 PM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: AlanWright on August 08, 2007, 10:16:18 PM
bolt, nobody has picked on the working class! There is a magnificently noticeable divide between the working class and IDIOTS.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: madasahatstand on August 08, 2007, 10:17:55 PM
stop picking on the working class.

Well said!!!!!! :)up



Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: madasahatstand on August 08, 2007, 10:21:07 PM
bolt, nobody has picked on the working class! There is a magnificently noticeable divide between the working class and IDIOTS.

yes but according to the previous post it's Geremy Kyle fans and Sun readers that comprise most of the uk. and that makes some folk shudder when considering who decides who's running the country? He didnt point oout the minority of idiots!


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: bolt pp on August 08, 2007, 10:25:23 PM
There is a magnificently noticeable divide between the working class and IDIOTS.

not only is there not a line but its actually a prerequisiit for definition that you are an idiot.

I'm proud to be both working class and an idiot.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: madasahatstand on August 08, 2007, 10:27:39 PM
There is a magnificently noticeable divide between the working class and IDIOTS.

not only is there not a line but its actually a prerequisiit for definition that you are an idiot.

I'm proud to be both working class and an idiot.

Me too:)


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: AlanWright on August 08, 2007, 10:30:26 PM
There is a magnificently noticeable divide between the working class and IDIOTS.

not only is there not a line but its actually a prerequisiit for definition that you are an idiot.

I'm proud to be both working class and an idiot.

Wow, I wasn't even trying to be offensive, and I'm glad you're proud.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: spruce goose on August 08, 2007, 10:31:16 PM
im just stupid   ;marks;


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 08, 2007, 10:34:59 PM
There is a magnificently noticeable divide between the working class and IDIOTS.

not only is there not a line but its actually a prerequisiit for definition that you are an idiot.

I'm proud to be both working class and an idiot.
they wouldn't let you on JKyle if you use big words like that


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: bolt pp on August 08, 2007, 10:38:33 PM
There is a magnificently noticeable divide between the working class and IDIOTS.

not only is there not a line but its actually a prerequisiit for definition that you are an idiot.

I'm proud to be both working class and an idiot.
they wouldn't let you on JKyle if you use big words like that

ive been on there but there wasnt any cause to use big words on the:"i'm addicted to car exaust fumes" show.

It was a low point even for me when i admitted that we were so poor we couldnt afford to run the engine whilst sniffing the exaust pipe


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: AlanWright on August 08, 2007, 10:41:09 PM
I saw that epsiode, is it the one where your mums your dad?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 08, 2007, 10:45:42 PM
I saw that epsiode, is it the one where your mums your dad?
and your sister?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: bolt pp on August 08, 2007, 10:46:03 PM
I saw that epsiode, is it the one where your mums your dad?

no, i think your confusing the show with the subject topic from your last councilling session


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: AlanWright on August 08, 2007, 10:50:40 PM
Ah yes, I do apologise. I stand corrected.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: kinboshi on August 08, 2007, 11:34:13 PM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: bolt pp on August 08, 2007, 11:37:27 PM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

are you working class?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: ifm on August 09, 2007, 12:06:20 AM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

LOL illogical hatred of a paper because of Mackenzie i assume?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: kinboshi on August 09, 2007, 12:08:43 AM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

are you working class?

Possibly. 


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: bolt pp on August 09, 2007, 12:15:35 AM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

LOL illogical hatred of a paper because of Mackenzie i assume?

does illogical hatred amaze you?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: ifm on August 09, 2007, 12:17:44 AM
I find it funny actually ****  :P


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: kinboshi on August 09, 2007, 08:46:43 AM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

LOL illogical hatred of a paper because of Mackenzie i assume?

LOL - that's part of it, but no.  But make as many assumptions as you want.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: Acidmouse on August 09, 2007, 10:00:10 AM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

LOL illogical hatred of a paper because of Mackenzie i assume?

LOL - that's part of it, but no.  But make as many assumptions as you want.

Didn't you make assumptions on sun readers yourself? ::P


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 09, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

LOL illogical hatred of a paper because of Mackenzie i assume?

LOL - that's part of it, but no.  But make as many assumptions as you want.

Didn't you make assumptions on sun readers yourself? ::P
Yes. Average reading age of 12. To any Sun readers, I make no apology.
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Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: matt674 on August 09, 2007, 11:56:46 AM
Reading would be a bit of a strong word to use - browsing and looking at the pictures maybe :) Oh and laughing at the sad people who write in to "Dear Deidre" who make me look normal!!

Anyway where else could i get my weekly update of the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann's parents?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: kinboshi on August 09, 2007, 12:02:42 PM
Probably in the Daily Mail as well I'd expect.
Reading would be a bit of a strong word to use - browsing and looking at the pictures maybe :) Oh and laughing at the sad people who write in to "Dear Deidre" who make me look normal!!

Anyway where else could i get my weekly update of the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann's parents?

Probably in the Daily Mail as well, I'd expect.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 09, 2007, 12:09:31 PM
Probably in the Daily Mail as well I'd expect.
Reading would be a bit of a strong word to use - browsing and looking at the pictures maybe :) Oh and laughing at the sad people who write in to "Dear Deidre" who make me look normal!!

Anyway where else could i get my weekly update of the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann's parents?

Probably in the Daily Mail as well, I'd expect.
Mail doesn't have 'Turtle photos' sadly :( :(
They did have some nice picture stories about the house price boom (a miner who used his redundancy cheque to buy a house for £23 in 1985 has just sold it for £2.2 Million! He will use the proceeds to help the Mail in its 'Name and shame your local paediatricians' campaign.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: ifm on August 09, 2007, 01:03:21 PM
Reading a paper means nothing about intelligence, the sun has it's market as does the mail, the difference being that mail readers actually believe they are superior to sun readers.
Which i think makes them more stupid than they think.
I don't buy papers anymore but i read the first available in the cafe, it could be any one of the mail, star, sun or the daily sport.
It matters little to me as they all have the same stories, except the sport has better pictures :D
Oh and the sun has the best (and most accurate) sport coverage.
Funny cuz when Blues were looking for a new manager i used to check the sport because i thought as the blues owners own that paper they would be the most accurate, as it happens the sun were correct not the sport.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: mjrevie on August 09, 2007, 01:09:59 PM
The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

Can you be intelligent and a sun reader?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 09, 2007, 01:44:41 PM
The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

Can you be intelligent and a sun reader?

That depends. As ifm points out, many S*n readers are not limited to that particular news vehicle, but also extend their educational reach by delving into a varied range of sources, such as "the mail, star, or the daily sport."

Horses for courses, I suppose, it depends on what particular segment of world media coverage a particular reader finds most interesting. For example, for S*n readers, it's probably tits and ass, whereas for 'Daily Sport' readers, it's tits and ass and football.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: ifm on August 09, 2007, 01:56:28 PM
The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

Can you be intelligent and a sun reader?

That depends. As ifm points out, many S*n readers are not limited to that particular news vehicle, but also extend their educational reach by delving into a varied range of sources, such as "the mail, star, or the daily sport."

Horses for courses, I suppose, it depends on what particular segment of world media coverage a particular reader finds most interesting. For example, for S*n readers, it's probably tits and ass, whereas for 'Daily Sport' readers, it's tits and ass and football.


That is all the range in the cafe i'm afraid, i also read a book per week.
What genre makes me less intelligent than you?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: spruce goose on August 09, 2007, 02:05:19 PM

If, in the unfortunate event that you were wrongly prosecuted for a serious crime and brought before a jury, it is the same ones who would be deciding the small matter of your liberty.


ive served on a jury and found the cross section of people with whom i shared the responsiblity to be a shining example of the unequaled fairness this country has a right to be proud of.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 09, 2007, 02:06:43 PM
The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

Can you be intelligent and a sun reader?

That depends. As ifm points out, many S*n readers are not limited to that particular news vehicle, but also extend their educational reach by delving into a varied range of sources, such as "the mail, star, or the daily sport."

Horses for courses, I suppose, it depends on what particular segment of world media coverage a particular reader finds most interesting. For example, for S*n readers, it's probably tits and ass, whereas for 'Daily Sport' readers, it's tits and ass and football.


That is all the range in the cafe i'm afraid, i also read a book per week.
What genre makes me less intelligent than you?
Ladies romantic fiction.





I've read all the Mills & Boon.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: fearisthekey on August 09, 2007, 02:09:53 PM

If, in the unfortunate event that you were wrongly prosecuted for a serious crime and brought before a jury, it is the same ones who would be deciding the small matter of your liberty.


ive served on a jury and found the cross section of people with whom i shared the responsiblity to be a shining example of the unequaled fairness this country has a right to be proud of.
Maybe 'thick' was outwith the lawyers game plan on that particular day.
Is your avatar Rene Magritte?


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: Acidmouse on August 09, 2007, 02:11:45 PM
Depends on what you look at the Sun for, if it is to pass the 20mins on the bus to work, look at some pointless reports and some tits thats fine. If you wanted to learn about whats happening in the world then you are nothing short of disillusion. I see nothing wrong with reading the Sun as long as you know what to make of the bullshit in it.

Funny how some people look down on this form of entertainment, because I can make an equal case for not reading most of the newspapers available in today's market.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: kinboshi on August 09, 2007, 03:45:17 PM
Depends on what you look at the Sun for, if it is to pass the 20mins on the bus to work, look at some pointless reports and some tits thats fine. If you wanted to learn about whats happening in the world then you are nothing short of disillusion. I see nothing wrong with reading the Sun as long as you know what to make of the bullshit in it.

Funny how some people look down on this form of entertainment, because I can make an equal case for not reading most of the newspapers available in today's market.

Dare I say that you're in a minority of s*n readers?  Of course, not all readers of this 'newspaper' are lacking in intelligence. 


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: Robert HM on August 09, 2007, 03:57:53 PM

If, in the unfortunate event that you were wrongly prosecuted for a serious crime and brought before a jury, it is the same ones who would be deciding the small matter of your liberty.


ive served on a jury and found the cross section of people with whom i shared the responsiblity to be a shining example of the unequaled fairness this country has a right to be proud of.

One of the best aspects of the English Legal system. Sadly under attack by successive governments.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: Acidmouse on August 09, 2007, 05:07:25 PM
Depends on what you look at the Sun for, if it is to pass the 20mins on the bus to work, look at some pointless reports and some tits thats fine. If you wanted to learn about whats happening in the world then you are nothing short of disillusion. I see nothing wrong with reading the Sun as long as you know what to make of the bullshit in it.

Funny how some people look down on this form of entertainment, because I can make an equal case for not reading most of the newspapers available in today's market.

Dare I say that you're in a minority of s*n readers?  Of course, not all readers of this 'newspaper' are lacking in intelligence. 


I don't read the sun btw just making a point.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: bolt pp on August 09, 2007, 05:10:35 PM
Depends on what you look at the Sun for, if it is to pass the 20mins on the bus to work, look at some pointless reports and some tits thats fine. If you wanted to learn about whats happening in the world then you are nothing short of disillusion. I see nothing wrong with reading the Sun as long as you know what to make of the bullshit in it.

Funny how some people look down on this form of entertainment, because I can make an equal case for not reading most of the newspapers available in today's market.

Dare I say that you're in a minority of s*n readers?  Of course, not all readers of this 'newspaper' are lacking in intelligence. 


I don't read the sun btw just making a point.

you lie!! you obviously love it.

its also clear to everyone that you play on their bingo site and dance around to the sun bingo advert in your underwear when it comes on the telly


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: Acidmouse on August 09, 2007, 05:14:23 PM
Depends on what you look at the Sun for, if it is to pass the 20mins on the bus to work, look at some pointless reports and some tits thats fine. If you wanted to learn about whats happening in the world then you are nothing short of disillusion. I see nothing wrong with reading the Sun as long as you know what to make of the bullshit in it.

Funny how some people look down on this form of entertainment, because I can make an equal case for not reading most of the newspapers available in today's market.

Dare I say that you're in a minority of s*n readers?  Of course, not all readers of this 'newspaper' are lacking in intelligence. 


I don't read the sun btw just making a point.

you lie!! you obviously love it.

its also clear to everyone that you play on their bingo site and dance around to the sun bingo advert in your underwear when it comes on the telly

Nice one.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: b4matt on August 09, 2007, 06:35:30 PM
jeremy kyle and the sun rules!! stop picking on the working class.

The s*n has nothing to do with being working class.  You can be working class and intelligent; or you can working class and a s*n reader.

POTW


I read the Sun last week, however i found the stories in Viz to be more accurate and less biased... oh and the top tips... very usefull.

My favourite papers-

Crossword- Telegraph

Sport- Telegraph

News- Independant

Weekend- Times

Titilation- NOTW and Sunday Sport (which is really just a daily version of Viz with random made up transfer news)

Lets be honest- It all depends what your looking for- facts, fantasy or pictures.


Title: Re: We live in a democracy.............
Post by: Jinky04 on August 10, 2007, 07:52:38 AM
wow looks like an excelllent debate. sadly ive just skimmed through it. I read, depending on what day it is:
The Times
The Guardian
The Torygraph (it really does take the piss)
The Glasgow Herald
The Scotsman
The Economist
Private Eye
Daily Record
Evening Times


The debate whether newspapers shape opinions or opinions are shaped by opinions, i believe, goes on. But what I know, some people don't need a newspaper to be ignorant, bigoted XXXXs. So I would generally allow no excuses.