Title: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: AlexMartin on September 11, 2007, 10:38:18 AM Hi gang,
Just wanted your opinions on this. Wasnt sure when i wrote it if it was too many hours for the part-time poker player to put in but assumed only serious participants would give it a go. Let me know your thought's if anyone has had the opportunity to read it. cheers, Alex. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: TheChipPrince on September 11, 2007, 10:52:49 AM Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management... But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it... Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: maxward on September 11, 2007, 10:57:13 AM Its a good piece, lets face it this is a huge topic and although it is quite a sizeable article you really only can offer a broadbrush approach. I think it says all it needs to say. As for debating the hours in question, I think that misses the point. You cant win. Prescribing any time to such progress is clearly impossible - one mans learning curve is another mans plateau.
What would be good, would be a case study article that charts the progress of one person (or more). Of course this would never happen, vanity, ego, self esteem, pride, you name it; lets face it who would volunteer to put their bankroll where their mouth is and show the reading world just how you can progress/or not? Nonetheless that would make for an interesting read and one which every reader could quickly empathise with. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Weblomaniac on September 11, 2007, 01:42:18 PM lets face it who would volunteer to put their bankroll where their mouth is and show the reading world just how you can progress/or not? Call me misguided or just plane stupid but that's exactly what I'm doing on my blog ;technophobe; Not entirely the same challenge as described by Alex but definately inspired by it. My challenge, 200 x $10 SNG & 20% ROI by end September, seriously lightweight stuff compared to Tank & Dale's exploits but a challenge for me. Prety much what Alex describes for the 1st step. http://weblomaniac.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-challenge.html (http://weblomaniac.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-challenge.html) Having said that, the way things are going I reserve the right to stop writing, change my name and leave the country under a cloud if I have many more days like the last couple. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: suzanne on September 11, 2007, 07:30:40 PM Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management... But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it... I thought exactly the same to be honest. Its all very good saying play $10 stts until you reach $600 and then ladder up but in reality for the average part time/recreational player it would probably take much longer than 2 months...if at all!!! As has been pointed out many times only 5/15% of poker players make a profit so realistically you could only expect the "better" players to achieve these goals and presumable they win enough $$ that they would not need to be playing with a $200 bankroll unless it was a personnel challenge like Weblomaniac. After I read the article I thought "This guy hasnt struggled with a $200 bankroll in a long time". Saying all that I did find the article interesting and informative and might just give it a go ;-) Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: thetank on September 11, 2007, 10:29:26 PM Can it be read online anywhere?
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: brummieboy on September 12, 2007, 01:27:17 AM Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep, only read the STT part so far will re-read the whole article tomorrow and let you know what I think..
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Moskvich on September 12, 2007, 02:01:48 AM Quote Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep Let's hope for Alex' sake you can come up with a more glowing endorsement than that! (I haven't seen it so don't have a view, just amused by the comment...) Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: ChipRich on September 12, 2007, 03:42:41 AM Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management... But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it... Read it earlier at work, Agree with you Chip, good bankroll management is the key and just being happy to grind out some small wins to start with. Nice article Alex, read your previous article on Cash games too. Was a good read :)up Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: brummieboy on September 12, 2007, 07:36:22 AM Quote Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep Let's hope for Alex' sake you can come up with a more glowing endorsement than that! (I haven't seen it so don't have a view, just amused by the comment...) Lol, it was late, nothing to do with the article in question.. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: AlexMartin on September 12, 2007, 11:59:00 AM Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management... But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it... I thought exactly the same to be honest. Its all very good saying play $10 stts until you reach $600 and then ladder up but in reality for the average part time/recreational player it would probably take much longer than 2 months...if at all!!! As has been pointed out many times only 5/15% of poker players make a profit so realistically you could only expect the "better" players to achieve these goals and presumable they win enough $$ that they would not need to be playing with a $200 bankroll unless it was a personnel challenge like Weblomaniac. After I read the article I thought "This guy hasnt struggled with a $200 bankroll in a long time". Saying all that I did find the article interesting and informative and might just give it a go ;-) I tried to make it more of a spin up method that a part-time recreational could try 2/3 times before getting the required streak/experience to make it. I recognise that its very hard to achieve this kind of ROI but combined with becoming a student of poker i thought it could serve as a useful framework. Give it a go and let me know how tricky it was for you. Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep, only read the STT part so far will re-read the whole article tomorrow and let you know what I think.. lol ty m8. Can it be read online anywhere? In about a month after the mag issue has expired. lets face it who would volunteer to put their bankroll where their mouth is and show the reading world just how you can progress/or not? Call me misguided or just plane stupid but that's exactly what I'm doing on my blog ;technophobe; Not entirely the same challenge as described by Alex but definately inspired by it. My challenge, 200 x $10 SNG & 20% ROI by end September, seriously lightweight stuff compared to Tank & Dale's exploits but a challenge for me. Prety much what Alex describes for the 1st step. http://weblomaniac.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-challenge.html (http://weblomaniac.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-challenge.html) Having said that, the way things are going I reserve the right to stop writing, change my name and leave the country under a cloud if I have many more days like the last couple. Keep the updates up im v interested. Cheers for feedback guys, much appreciated. And thanks for those of you who thought it was ok, lol Brummieboy, im deffo gonna slowroll u @ BB5 :) Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: thetank on September 14, 2007, 10:14:02 PM I'll read it in about a month then (I'm very cheap)
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: bolt pp on September 15, 2007, 12:05:22 AM I read it, it was shit
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: AlexMartin on September 15, 2007, 04:28:34 AM I read it, it was shit You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your contructive analysis. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: bolt pp on September 15, 2007, 01:19:31 PM I read it, it was shit You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your contructive analysis. rotflmfao calm down, i didn't read it, i was mucking about Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: celtic on September 15, 2007, 03:17:53 PM I read it too and it was shit, most of what alex says is shit, in fact everything about him is shit.
only joking son, will buy you a coke at luton on sunday if you're going and will read and let you know. Not that you would care what a donkey like me thinks. Regards Vinny Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: fearisthekey on September 15, 2007, 03:58:50 PM I read it and lost all my money can I get a refund?
Is it available online or is that not allowed? Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: BigTomatoes on September 16, 2007, 03:07:59 PM i read it on the plane over yesterday , i'll give it a go and let you know how i get on , i won $190 the other night in an omaha tournament so i'll us that to see if i can run it up to $600 in 2 months. i'll let you know how i get on. cheers. ps. 1000th post , woohoo ;karabiner; Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Robert HM on September 16, 2007, 04:28:36 PM i read it on the plane over yesterday , i'll give it a go and let you know how i get on , i won $190 the other night in an omaha tournament so i'll us that to see if i can run it up to $600 in 2 months. i'll let you know how i get on. cheers. ps. 1000th post , woohoo ;karabiner; Good luck and congratz on the milestone Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: BigTomatoes on September 18, 2007, 08:29:20 AM what site would you recommend for this challenge ? i play on Ladbrokes a lot but there not enough action , i'm sitting here at 8.30 am and cant get a $10 sit n go . tbh i'm fed up with Ladbrokes and was thinking about going back to PartyPoker or Pokerstars again. any recommendations ?? Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: TheChipPrince on September 18, 2007, 09:43:22 AM Pokertstars is where the traffic is, but also some of the hardest games... Personnally I think Crypto is about the softest I use, although the problem is the same there, no daytime traffic... Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: kinboshi on September 18, 2007, 10:38:11 AM Quote from: [url=http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198 Alex[/url] Martin (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) link=topic=27263.msg555481#msg555481 date=1189826914] I read it, it was shit You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your contructive analysis. rotflmfao calm down, i didn't read it, i was mucking about Do you want someone to read it to you? Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Weblomaniac on September 18, 2007, 01:20:50 PM what site would you recommend for this challenge ? I'm going for it on Party, tables fill quickly but I'm having a torrid time, lol donkaments! Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Jon MW on September 18, 2007, 01:29:30 PM I'm trying this with Pokerstars.
But I did start this when I read the article, and so far I've managed to fit in 5 $10 STT's. I might take a bit longer than a couple of months to spin $200 into $600 Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: AlexMartin on September 18, 2007, 01:35:48 PM Best of luck guys.
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: bolt pp on September 18, 2007, 03:28:20 PM Quote from: [url=http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198 Alex[/url] Martin (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) link=topic=27263.msg555481#msg555481 date=1189826914] I read it, it was shit You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your contructive analysis. rotflmfao calm down, i didn't read it, i was mucking about Do you want someone to read it to you? hell no, i'm not listening to that shit Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Sark79 on September 18, 2007, 04:11:56 PM lol Bolt
I will read it when it comes online Boss, they don't have that magazine in my local newsagents, only in Glasgow Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: AlexMartin on September 18, 2007, 04:47:47 PM Quote from: [url=http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198 Alex[/url] Martin (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) link=topic=27263.msg555481#msg555481 date=1189826914] I read it, it was shit You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your contructive analysis. rotflmfao calm down, i didn't read it, i was mucking about Do you want someone to read it to you? hell no, i'm not listening to that shit lol. overkill. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: thetank on September 18, 2007, 06:48:04 PM I'll draw you a pretty graph you can look at bolt..
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: bolt pp on September 18, 2007, 06:55:33 PM I'll draw you a pretty graph you can look at bolt.. I'm not analyzing that shit Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: thetank on September 18, 2007, 09:56:15 PM I'm not analyzing that shit One may perhaps assent to reformulating the configuation of the sentences so that they are more bounteous to your personal tastes. ..and illustrate it with some topless nineteen year old girls Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: bolt pp on September 18, 2007, 10:02:50 PM One may perhaps assent to reformulating the configuation of the sentences so that they are more bounteous to your personal tastes. ..and illustrate it with some topless nineteen year old girls I'm not cracking one off over that shit Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: thetank on September 18, 2007, 10:09:34 PM I'll get Andy McNab to write the forward, and include a phone in quizz question at the end where the prize is a Nintendo Wii.
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: bolt pp on September 18, 2007, 10:15:38 PM Ive already read a: "how to turn $200 into $7500 bankroll" arcticle
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: AlexMartin on September 19, 2007, 12:38:21 AM Ive already read a: "how to turn $200 into $7500 bankroll" arcticle stumped again, ill give up. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: celtic on September 19, 2007, 01:49:16 AM have you read my article in poker numpties monthly in how to turn a $5000 bankroll into $200........ a cracking read.
it works for me every time. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Sark79 on September 19, 2007, 02:51:20 AM have you read my article in poker numpties monthly in how to turn a $5000 bankroll into $200........ acracking read. it works for me every time. I am a big follower of that article as well Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Sark79 on October 15, 2007, 06:23:52 PM Any idea when this comes online?
ty Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Ecosse on October 15, 2007, 06:57:29 PM have you read my article in poker numpties monthly in how to turn a $5000 bankroll into $200........ a cracking read. it works for me every time. This one ? Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Sark79 on October 15, 2007, 07:01:04 PM Which one? :D ( has the link been deleted? ) :-(
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: RichEO on October 17, 2007, 06:21:33 PM Can someone just scan it and post it?
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: thetank on October 18, 2007, 02:43:31 PM Or type it in (for practise in using the home keys)
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: bolt pp on October 18, 2007, 03:01:42 PM Or type it in (for practise in using the home keys) sigh, i'm quite busy today but i'll do it. "first you need to get $200, there are a couple of ways of doing this but i find the most effective way is waiting for someone to withdraw there cash from a cash machine and grab it, you probably wont even need to hit him but if he pisses you off you can crack him in the mouth if you've had a bad day. so you've got a bit of start up money but you've got bigger plans and need a gun, your pals selling one and because it was used in an offlicence robberry its yours for knockdown Price of $500, so thats ok, phase two, we spend $10 on a toy gun, $20 on a mask and the rest on crackcocaine, after taking that we run into a betting shop at the end of the day smashing the gaf up demanding money, no one else is in there and the guy behind the counter hands over $2000, result were on our way but we're feeling lucky and on our way out get a bit involved on the roulette machine and put$700 back in, shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!! but we've still got the dough for the proper gun and some other stuff we need so were doing ok. we go and see our mate who's selling the gun and get in for a knockdown price of $400, hes a drugdealer and has just picked up now although this isn't part of my initial plan i use my initiative to rob him for his drugs with the gun hes just sold me, result!!!! knock that lot out for about 2k and were well on our way!!!! i dont know exactly how much we've built up to cos I'm out me nut on supertennents but i think we've we're over half way" part 2 to come......... Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: thetank on October 18, 2007, 05:19:55 PM :kiss: cheers
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: sovietsong on November 04, 2007, 07:55:28 PM anybody able to send me a link to this article! much appreciated!
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Sark79 on November 04, 2007, 07:56:46 PM anybody able to send me a link to this article! much appreciated! Me 2 , Thanks Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Weblomaniac on November 24, 2007, 04:01:46 PM Woohoo ;yippee;
I've finally completed phase 1 of Alex's Bankroll Boosting challenge. It took me a little longer than the perscribed 1-2 months, 2 months 21 days to be precise and a total of 316 SNGs but I've finally done it. The stats: Played: 316 (mixture of $5 & $10 - 10man SNG on Party Poker predominantly) ITM: 41% ROI: 15% Profit: $415.40 Hours taken: 163 Hourly rate: $2.48 OK, so Tank, Dale or some of the other maniac's around here could probably pulled off the same result over a weekend but I'm chuffed to bits. I'm about to start on phase 2 and attempt to spin my $600 up to $1,200 at the $20 tables. Here Goes... light the blue touch paper and stand back while I donk it all off ;boltpp; Check out my blog if you want to read all the gory details. There's a link to it in my signature at the bottom of this post. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Longy on November 24, 2007, 05:40:36 PM Woohoo ;yippee; I've finally completed phase 1 of Alex's Bankroll Boosting challenge. It took me a little longer than the perscribed 1-2 months, 2 months 21 days to be precise and a total of 316 SNGs but I've finally done it. The stats: Played: 316 (mixture of $5 & $10 - 10man SNG on Party Poker predominantly) ITM: 41% ROI: 15% Profit: $415.40 Hours taken: 163 Hourly rate: $2.48 OK, so Tank, Dale or some of the other maniac's around here could probably pulled off the same result over a weekend but I'm chuffed to bits. I'm about to start on phase 2 and attempt to spin my $600 up to $1,200 at the $20 tables. Here Goes... light the blue touch paper and stand back while I donk it all off ;boltpp; Check out my blog if you want to read all the gory details. There's a link to it in my signature at the bottom of this post. Congrats, just read through your blog and it certainly sound like you have earnt your success. An roi of 15% is pretty damn good given that you were playing the $5+1 sng's on party which are a total rip off. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: AlexMartin on November 25, 2007, 12:58:54 PM Congrats Weblomaniac, keep informing us of how you get on. Would be great to have a success story. 15% roi in a 20% raked game is a cracking achievement. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: boldie on November 26, 2007, 09:50:32 AM Woohoo ;yippee; I've finally completed phase 1 of Alex's Bankroll Boosting challenge. It took me a little longer than the perscribed 1-2 months, 2 months 21 days to be precise and a total of 316 SNGs but I've finally done it. The stats: Played: 316 (mixture of $5 & $10 - 10man SNG on Party Poker predominantly) ITM: 41% ROI: 15% Profit: $415.40 Hours taken: 163 Hourly rate: $2.48 OK, so Tank, Dale or some of the other maniac's around here could probably pulled off the same result over a weekend but I'm chuffed to bits. I'm about to start on phase 2 and attempt to spin my $600 up to $1,200 at the $20 tables. Here Goes... light the blue touch paper and stand back while I donk it all off ;boltpp; Check out my blog if you want to read all the gory details. There's a link to it in my signature at the bottom of this post. Congrats, just read through your blog and it certainly sound like you have earnt your success. An roi of 15% is pretty damn good given that you were playing the $5+1 sng's on party which are a total rip off. Well done indeed and..5 +1???!!!!??? 20% juice?..that's a disgrace. Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: TheChipPrince on November 26, 2007, 10:23:23 AM Weblo, I know you said you mixed $5 & $10 tables, but lets say for example all the tables were $5 +$1 juice, if u played these on any site with $0.50 juice you would a minimum of $150+ better off, just a thought for you...
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Sunday8pm on November 26, 2007, 12:06:51 PM Alex Martin writing bankroll articles? Whatever next! ;)
Title: Re: Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building. Post by: Sark79 on November 26, 2007, 01:09:12 PM well done mate
Does anyone have a link? I had a look but couldn't find the article, ty |