Inside poker Magazine- $200 to $5000 bankroll building.

[AlexMartin]

Hi gang,

Just wanted your opinions on this.  Wasnt sure when i wrote it if it was too many hours for the part-time poker player to put in but assumed only serious participants would give it a go. Let me know your thought's if anyone has had the opportunity to read it. cheers, Alex.

[TheChipPrince]

Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management...

But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it...

[maxward]

Its a good piece, lets face it this is a huge topic and although it is quite a sizeable article you really only can offer a broadbrush approach.  I think it says all it needs to say. As for debating the hours in question, I think that misses the point. You cant win. Prescribing any time to such progress is clearly impossible - one mans learning curve is another mans plateau.

What would be good, would be a case study article that charts the progress of one person (or more). Of course this would never happen, vanity, ego, self esteem, pride, you name it; lets face it who would volunteer to put their bankroll where their mouth is and show the reading world just how you can progress/or not? Nonetheless that would make for an interesting read and one which every reader could quickly empathise with.

[Weblomaniac]

lets face it who would volunteer to put their bankroll where their mouth is and show the reading world just how you can progress/or not?

Call me misguided or just plane stupid but that's exactly what I'm doing on my blog  Not entirely the same challenge as described by Alex but definately inspired by it. My challenge, 200 x $10 SNG & 20% ROI by end September, seriously lightweight stuff compared to Tank & Dale's exploits but a challenge for me. Prety much what Alex describes for the 1st step.

http://weblomaniac.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-challenge.html

Having said that, the way things are going I reserve the right to stop writing, change my name and leave the country under a cloud if I have many more days like the last couple.

[suzanne]

Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management...

But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it...

I thought exactly the same to be honest. Its all very good saying play $10 stts until you reach $600 and then ladder up but in reality for the average part time/recreational player it would probably take much longer than 2 months...if at all!!!

As has been pointed out many times only 5/15% of poker players make a profit so realistically you could only expect the "better" players to achieve these goals and presumable they win enough $$ that they would not need to be playing with a $200 bankroll unless it was a personnel challenge like Weblomaniac.

After I read the article I thought "This guy hasnt struggled with a $200 bankroll in a long time".

Saying all that I did find the article interesting and informative and might just give it a go ;-)

[thetank]

Can it be read online anywhere?

[brummieboy]

Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep, only read the STT part so far will re-read the whole article tomorrow and let you know what I think..

[Moskvich]

Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep

Let's hope for Alex' sake you can come up with a more glowing endorsement than that!

(I haven't seen it so don't have a view, just amused by the comment...)

[ChipRich]

Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management...

But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it...

Read it earlier at work,

Agree with you Chip, good bankroll management is the key and just being happy to grind out some small wins to start with.

Nice article Alex, read your previous article on Cash games too. Was a good read 

[brummieboy]

Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep

Let's hope for Alex' sake you can come up with a more glowing endorsement than that!

(I haven't seen it so don't have a view, just amused by the comment...)

Lol, it was late, nothing to do with the article in question..

[AlexMartin]

Hi Alex, i actually read the article yesterday, and didnt realise that it was you who wrote it... I think the theory and maths of the ideas are perfectly fine, only thing that perhaps struck me was it you made it seem 'easy' to build up a bankroll, when in reality lots of beginners (who I assume the article is aimed at mainly) struggle with any kind of discipline or bankroll management...
But yes, on the whole the article is clear and easy to undertand, and a help as long as players can stick to it...

I thought exactly the same to be honest. Its all very good saying play $10 stts until you reach $600 and then ladder up but in reality for the average part time/recreational player it would probably take much longer than 2 months...if at all!!!

As has been pointed out many times only 5/15% of poker players make a profit so realistically you could only expect the "better" players to achieve these goals and presumable they win enough $$ that they would not need to be playing with a $200 bankroll unless it was a personnel challenge like Weblomaniac.

After I read the article I thought "This guy hasnt struggled with a $200 bankroll in a long time".

Saying all that I did find the article interesting and informative and might just give it a go ;-)

I tried to make it more of a spin up method that a part-time recreational could try 2/3 times before getting the required streak/experience to make it. I recognise that its very hard to achieve this kind of ROI but combined with becoming a student of poker i thought it could serve as a useful framework. Give it a go and let me know how tricky it was for you.

Half way through reading it last night when I fell asleep, only read the STT part so far will re-read the whole article tomorrow and let you know what I think..

lol ty m8.

Can it be read online anywhere?

In about a month after the mag issue has expired.

lets face it who would volunteer to put their bankroll where their mouth is and show the reading world just how you can progress/or not?

Call me misguided or just plane stupid but that's exactly what I'm doing on my blog  Not entirely the same challenge as described by Alex but definately inspired by it. My challenge, 200 x $10 SNG & 20% ROI by end September, seriously lightweight stuff compared to Tank & Dale's exploits but a challenge for me. Prety much what Alex describes for the 1st step.

http://weblomaniac.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-challenge.html

Having said that, the way things are going I reserve the right to stop writing, change my name and leave the country under a cloud if I have many more days like the last couple.

Keep the updates up im v interested.




Cheers for feedback guys, much appreciated. And thanks for those of you who thought it was ok, lol Brummieboy, im deffo gonna slowroll u @ BB5

[thetank]

I'll read it in about a month then (I'm very cheap)

[bolt pp]

I read it, it was shit

[AlexMartin]

I read it, it was shit

You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your contructive analysis.

[bolt pp]

I read it, it was shit

You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for your contructive analysis.

 

calm down, i didn't read it, i was mucking about