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Title: Parenting advice needed
Post by: cia260895 on December 30, 2007, 04:47:18 PM
I am a stepfather to 2 girls 13/10 the 13 year old has recently taken some of my wifes cigarettes tried (how many don't know) them and lied about what they were doing in her room i discovered them whilst looking for my  CD?,what would/should be the appropriate course of action after such an event,my view differs greatly from my wifes, all views will be greatly appreciated


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: sovietsong on December 30, 2007, 04:56:01 PM
what can you do?  if you make a big deal of it you could create the 'you cant tell me what to do' arguement, i would tell the missus and let her deal with it. 


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: Laxie on December 30, 2007, 05:09:43 PM
We've recently found ourselves in the same spot with our 15 year old son.  However, like your wife, we're smokers so giving the 'smoking is bad for you' lecture is hypocritical waste of time.  We basically sat him down and said while we're not happy that he's taken up the same bad habit, we're even more disappointed that he'd lie about it.  Kids will be kids and it's a different world they're growing up in, but regardless of everything else...family is key and honesty should be centre of that world, no matter how bad the news is. 

No point saying they can't, because remember when you were a kid that age...if we really wanted to do something, we found a way around the rules.  We did tell our son that under no circumstances was he allowed to smoke in the house.  We don't like what he's doing and we'd rather he didn't, but we're not going to stop him.  Just don't lie to us. 

As it turns out we've decided to tackle the drinking issue at the same time, but with a wee twist.  In the case of drinking, we've told him if he really wants to try it that bad, he can have a tin or two... with us in our own home.  Maybe not the best approach, but he's only recently taken us up on it once during a special occasion.  We'd rather he learn responsible drinking in moderation rather than hanging out in a field drinking to the point of paralytic like other kids his age.  If it's not seen as some mysterious 'forbidden fun', I'm hoping they aren't half as bothered to get stuck in.  Will get back to you on that one when we've dealt with it a bit longer.

They have to learn by making their own mistakes.  We'll do what we can to guide them and it might not always be perfect, but I don't want them to be afraid to come to us.  I'm a firm believer in honesty above all else and they know they'll get into even more trouble if they lie than if they just fess up and give us a chance to deal with it.         


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: MPOWER on December 30, 2007, 05:16:36 PM
I'd get the wife to stop Smoking for starters.  

The extra cash she has saved she could put that towards your Poker bankroll.  

This will also stop little Miss stealing cigarettes.

Problem solved

Regards

M

 



  


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: Dingdell on December 30, 2007, 05:42:43 PM
Blimey times have changed. My Dad caught me smoking at age 16 and I didn't sit down for a week....

No criticism of any advice on here - it's just amazing how times have moved on. Sometimes you feel so old and the  /:-| look so young.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: Laxie on December 30, 2007, 05:45:25 PM
Blimey times have changed. My Dad caught me smoking at age 16 and I didn't sit down for a week....

No criticism of any advice on here - it's just amazing how times have moved on. Sometimes you feel so old and the  /:-| look so young.

Was the same in our house growing up...as well as our friend's houses.  Unfortunately it didn't stop that generation in my neighbourhood.  We just got better at sneaking around.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: lucky_scrote on December 30, 2007, 07:01:41 PM
Blimey times have changed. My Dad caught me smoking at age 16 and I didn't sit down for a week....

No criticism of any advice on here - it's just amazing how times have moved on. Sometimes you feel so old and the  /:-| look so young.

Was the same in our house growing up...as well as our friend's houses.  Unfortunately it didn't stop that generation in my neighbourhood.  We just got better at sneaking around.

My parents both used to smoke (and they had done for 30+ years). They never told me or my brother or sister to not smoke, they just said how disgusting it was and to try and not fall into the same trap. Well i guess it has nothing to do with the parents because both my brother and sister smoke yet i haven't even touched a cig in my life. As it happens both my parents quit smoking a year ago and havnt tried since, awesome :)


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: steeveg on December 30, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
i agree with laxie,i smoke myself ,i have a lad and girl who both tried smoking the odd sly ciggy in there teens, there now in there mid and late twentys and both now never smoke.i just turned a blind eye,its better they sneak off to the bedroom for a cigg and you know where they are than having to hang round the streets at nights meeting the wrong sort of friends, who could be a bad influence, i always thought just make sure they keep good company,and they will turn out ok, my 2 are brilliant i wouldnt worry about it,its all part of growing up


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: KingPoker on December 30, 2007, 07:37:23 PM
Blimey times have changed. My Dad caught me smoking at age 16 and I didn't sit down for a week....


There's your answer CIA, take all the chairs out of the house ;)



Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: kinboshi on December 30, 2007, 07:48:04 PM
Blimey times have changed. My Dad caught me smoking at age 16 and I didn't sit down for a week....


There's your answer CIA, take all the chairs out of the house ;)



LOL....fool!


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: sofa----king on December 30, 2007, 10:43:14 PM
my wife just caught me smoking and sheljohas;iohcutooljokmyjofingersnnoufoff


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: barhell on December 30, 2007, 10:46:43 PM
Buy them all a copy of http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Nonsmokers/dp/1402718616 (http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Nonsmokers/dp/1402718616)


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: Claw75 on December 30, 2007, 10:49:38 PM
If all she's doing is smoking cigarettes I probably wouldn't be too heavy.  Would be more worried about drink and/or drugs at that age - much more potential to get into trouble as a result.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: kinboshi on December 30, 2007, 11:05:35 PM
I'm not a parent (which is probably fortunate for all concerned), but they will be drinking at that age.

Far better to let them drink in the house and show them what responsible drinking is.  You aren't going to stop them from drinking, so best to let them try it in a safe environment.

As for smoking, I'd point out the health issues - and the financial ones.  A smoker telling a teenager that they wish they hadn't started smoking themselves might have a bigger impact than a bollocking.  However, I'd give them a bollocking for smoking in the house and that they nicked some ciggies.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: Claw75 on December 30, 2007, 11:12:23 PM


Far better to let them drink in the house and show them what responsible drinking is.  You aren't going to stop them from drinking, so best to let them try it in a safe environment.


I agree with that, I was thinking more about the type of drinking I was doing at that age.  Bottle of thunderbird - lovely.  Oops, feel sick, will just throw up over this balcony.  Shit, the police, better run.  Where the hell are my shoes?

Happy days.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: kinboshi on December 30, 2007, 11:15:33 PM


Far better to let them drink in the house and show them what responsible drinking is.  You aren't going to stop them from drinking, so best to let them try it in a safe environment.


I agree with that, I was thinking more about the type of drinking I was doing at that age.  Bottle of thunderbird - lovely.  Oops, feel sick, will just throw up over this balcony.  Shit, the police, better run.  Where the hell are my shoes?

Happy days.

Mad Dog 20/20 for me when I was a yoot. 

The poison's changed now, but the results are usually the same.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: gatso on December 30, 2007, 11:19:06 PM



Mad Dog 20/20 for me when I was a yoot. 



now you're talking. great stuff that was.
yummy


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: thetank on December 30, 2007, 11:46:34 PM
Love the Simpsons episode where Bart is working for the mob and warehousing a truckload of stolen ciggies in his bedroom, stacked right up to the ceiling.
Homer "discovers" what Bart is hiding and comes out with the old "I'm going to stand here and watch you smoke every one" line.

The timing of the visual gag was just perfect. All the new Simpsons knock-off cartoons can't compare to the daddy.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: boldie on December 31, 2007, 10:20:52 AM
If you don't want them to smoke just have them smoke an entire pack in an hour or so..problem solved once they start going green.

The problem is mainly in the nicking stuff and lying about it though (In my humble opinion) .if you just tell her "Listen we don't like you smoking but we hate you lying more" you can at least count on her being honest with you...the same with drinking. If you encourage responsible drinking rather than making them lie about it you're almost certainly doing a better job of it than outright banning it and kidding yourself on that they never had a drop or never tried smoking.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: Laxie on December 31, 2007, 01:16:37 PM

The problem is mainly in the nicking stuff and lying about it though (In my humble opinion) .if you just tell her "Listen we don't like you smoking but we hate you lying more" you can at least count on her being honest with you...the same with drinking. If you encourage responsible drinking rather than making them lie about it you're almost certainly doing a better job of it than outright banning it and kidding yourself on that they never had a drop or never tried smoking.
:goodpost: ;iagree;  Only, you said it better in half the time.   rotflmfao 


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: goldfoxdom on December 31, 2007, 03:39:34 PM
If all she's doing is smoking cigarettes I probably wouldn't be too heavy.  Would be more worried about drink and/or drugs at that age - much more potential to get into trouble as a result.

Yeah smoking is fine, just kills you.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: Claw75 on December 31, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
If all she's doing is smoking cigarettes I probably wouldn't be too heavy.  Would be more worried about drink and/or drugs at that age - much more potential to get into trouble as a result.

Yeah smoking is fine, just kills you.

A kid isn't going to end up in hospital or dead after a few cigarettes.  Not always guaranteed after drinking or taking drugs.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: kinboshi on January 01, 2008, 12:40:01 PM
If all she's doing is smoking cigarettes I probably wouldn't be too heavy.  Would be more worried about drink and/or drugs at that age - much more potential to get into trouble as a result.

Yeah smoking is fine, just kills you.

A kid isn't going to end up in hospital or dead after a few cigarettes.  Not always guaranteed after drinking or taking drugs.

Unless they burn the house down sneaking a ciggy in their bedroom.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: cia260895 on January 02, 2008, 12:13:21 PM
well what a lenient lot most of you are I'm with boldie but as she isn't mine and i cant impress that on her although I'd love to


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: boldie on January 02, 2008, 12:28:07 PM
well what a lenient lot most of you are I'm with boldie but as she isn't mine and i cant impress that on her although I'd love to

I might be overstepping the mark here..and apologize if I do, but you said you were the "step father"..that gives you all the rights there, my friend. They are your girls too.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: boldie on January 02, 2008, 12:29:16 PM
If all she's doing is smoking cigarettes I probably wouldn't be too heavy.  Would be more worried about drink and/or drugs at that age - much more potential to get into trouble as a result.

Yeah smoking is fine, just kills you.

A kid isn't going to end up in hospital or dead after a few cigarettes.  Not always guaranteed after drinking or taking drugs.

Unless they burn the house down sneaking a ciggy in their bedroom.


which is why you should be open about it..see? This parenting malarky is very straight forward. (Can you tell I don't have kids?)


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: cia260895 on January 02, 2008, 12:30:28 PM
well what a lenient lot most of you are I'm with boldie but as she isn't mine and i cant impress that on her although I'd love to

I might be overstepping the mark here..and apologize if I do, but you said you were the "step father"..that gives you all the rights there, my friend. They are your girls too.

apparently not according to the mrs........


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: barhell on January 02, 2008, 12:38:04 PM
well what a lenient lot most of you are I'm with boldie but as she isn't mine and i cant impress that on her although I'd love to

I might be overstepping the mark here..and apologize if I do, but you said you were the "step father"..that gives you all the rights there, my friend. They are your girls too.

apparently not according to the mrs........

Hmmmmmm as a step father to 2 girls myself i agree with boldie, i am involved in all aspects of their life, wether it be praise or punish, good or bad, same as any parent.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: AndrewT on January 02, 2008, 01:01:08 PM
well what a lenient lot most of you are I'm with boldie but as she isn't mine and i cant impress that on her although I'd love to

I might be overstepping the mark here..and apologize if I do, but you said you were the "step father"..that gives you all the rights there, my friend. They are your girls too.

apparently not according to the mrs........

Hmmmmmm as a step father to 2 girls myself i agree with boldie, i am involved in all aspects of their life, wether it be praise or punish, good or bad, same as any parent.

But, somewhere in the back of your mind, are you not wary of the day one of them gives you the "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO - YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!" speech.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: cia260895 on January 02, 2008, 01:12:51 PM
id then say fine go and live with him

me thinks she wouldnt


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: boldie on January 02, 2008, 01:16:52 PM
so what does the Mrs say about the little smoking thing then?


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: barhell on January 02, 2008, 01:29:02 PM
well what a lenient lot most of you are I'm with boldie but as she isn't mine and i cant impress that on her although I'd love to

I might be overstepping the mark here..and apologize if I do, but you said you were the "step father"..that gives you all the rights there, my friend. They are your girls too.

apparently not according to the mrs........

Hmmmmmm as a step father to 2 girls myself i agree with boldie, i am involved in all aspects of their life, wether it be praise or punish, good or bad, same as any parent.

But, somewhere in the back of your mind, are you not wary of the day one of them gives you the "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO - YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!" speech.
Believe me i know it's coming, eldest has just started Secondary school so rebellion may not be far away but again that is just another part of parenting is it not.

I was an unplanned child and i remember saying to my parents "you never wanted me", it wasn't meant by me, just said in spite because of hormones.

Biological father or step father the same applies kids will always find a way to "dig the knife in and twist it" metaphorically speaking only, i hope.



Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: cia260895 on January 02, 2008, 01:33:47 PM
so what does the Mrs say about the little smoking thing then?

diidly squat i get an almighty earbashing and she got taken to london for phot shoot costing 450 quid then stayed at her m8's for 2 days then mrs has takenher to london today to see Grease????????????????????


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: boldie on January 02, 2008, 01:35:44 PM
so what does the Mrs say about the little smoking thing then?

diidly squat i get an almighty earbashing and she got taken to london for phot shoot costing 450 quid then stayed at her m8's for 2 days then mrs has takenher to london today to see Grease????????????????????

Mrs wants to be daughters best friend?

never good.


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: charmaine on January 02, 2008, 01:50:13 PM
so what does the Mrs say about the little smoking thing then?

diidly squat i get an almighty earbashing and she got taken to london for phot shoot costing 450 quid then stayed at her m8's for 2 days then mrs has takenher to london today to see Grease????????????????????


Oh dear , not good .


Title: Re: Parenting advice needed
Post by: cia260895 on January 02, 2008, 01:51:29 PM
so what does the Mrs say about the little smoking thing then?

diidly squat i get an almighty earbashing and she got taken to london for phot shoot costing 450 quid then stayed at her m8's for 2 days then mrs has takenher to london today to see Grease????????????????????

Mrs wants to be daughters best friend?

never good.
spot on m8