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Title: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 13, 2008, 08:36:38 PM last nite on more4 i watched a programme about the golden gate bridge which is the single most popular suicide site in the world.the film was shot from various angles and caught on film half a dozen or so suicides from the 24 that took place in 2004,it interviewed friends and family of some of the jumpers and 1 who survived,
but what struck me the most was why the hell don't they just make the barrier a lot taller with inward curved railings at the top to make it almost impossible to climb.the barrier on the film was only about 4 feet high all they had to do was skip up and off they went.(anyone know if this has changed?) The last jumper was the most bizarre. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: RED-DOG on February 13, 2008, 08:39:54 PM last nite on more4 i watched a programme about the golden gate bridge which is the single most popular suicide site in the world.the film was shot from various angles and caught on film half a dozen or so suicides from the 24 that took place in 2004,it interviewed friends and family of some of the jumpers and 1 who survived, but what struck me the most was why the hell don't they just make the barrier a lot taller with inward curved railings at the top to make it almost impossible to climb.the barrier on the film was only about 4 feet high all they had to do was skip up and off they went.(anyone know if this has changed?) The last jumper was the most bizarre. Not as bizzare as Robert HM's Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 13, 2008, 08:43:51 PM last nite on more4 i watched a programme about the golden gate bridge which is the single most popular suicide site in the world.the film was shot from various angles and caught on film half a dozen or so suicides from the 24 that took place in 2004,it interviewed friends and family of some of the jumpers and 1 who survived, but what struck me the most was why the hell don't they just make the barrier a lot taller with inward curved railings at the top to make it almost impossible to climb.the barrier on the film was only about 4 feet high all they had to do was skip up and off they went.(anyone know if this has changed?) The last jumper was the most bizarre. Not as bizzare as Robert HM's ;tightend; genius Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 13, 2008, 08:55:14 PM last nite on more4 i watched a programme about the golden gate bridge which is the single most popular suicide site in the world.the film was shot from various angles and caught on film half a dozen or so suicides from the 24 that took place in 2004,it interviewed friends and family of some of the jumpers and 1 who survived, but what struck me the most was why the hell don't they just make the barrier a lot taller with inward curved railings at the top to make it almost impossible to climb.the barrier on the film was only about 4 feet high all they had to do was skip up and off they went.(anyone know if this has changed?) The last jumper was the most bizarre. Not as bizzare as Robert HM's ;tightend; genius Agreed. rotflmfao Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 13, 2008, 09:23:38 PM last nite on more4 i watched a programme about the golden gate bridge which is the single most popular suicide site in the world.the film was shot from various angles and caught on film half a dozen or so suicides from the 24 that took place in 2004,it interviewed friends and family of some of the jumpers and 1 who survived, but what struck me the most was why the hell don't they just make the barrier a lot taller with inward curved railings at the top to make it almost impossible to climb.the barrier on the film was only about 4 feet high all they had to do was skip up and off they went.(anyone know if this has changed?) The last jumper was the most bizarre. Not as bizzare as Robert HM's lmao..new POTW! Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Acidmouse on February 14, 2008, 01:18:31 PM They don't make the barriers because their is no point.
If your gonna jump your gonna jump, you will find a way. If it ain't Golden Gate bridge it will be the Bay bridge 15mins away which is 3 times longer. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Bongo on February 14, 2008, 01:20:10 PM If it ain't Golden Gate bridge it will be the Bay bridge 15mins away which is 3 times longer. By car? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Robert HM on February 14, 2008, 01:35:18 PM last nite on more4 i watched a programme about the golden gate bridge which is the single most popular suicide site in the world.the film was shot from various angles and caught on film half a dozen or so suicides from the 24 that took place in 2004,it interviewed friends and family of some of the jumpers and 1 who survived, but what struck me the most was why the hell don't they just make the barrier a lot taller with inward curved railings at the top to make it almost impossible to climb.the barrier on the film was only about 4 feet high all they had to do was skip up and off they went.(anyone know if this has changed?) The last jumper was the most bizarre. Not as bizzare as Robert HM's Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Acidmouse on February 14, 2008, 01:56:09 PM If it ain't Golden Gate bridge it will be the Bay bridge 15mins away which is 3 times longer. By car? lol..... Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 14, 2008, 06:30:05 PM I question the ethics of crews that film people comitting suicide. In Scotland there is an anti suicide strategy and its known that many suicides can be prevented by encouraging someone to talk about their feelings. I agree with acid that some people will jump and have made their minds up to do it but there are many more who can be talked down. I'd like to know the details of any interactions (if any) between the film makers and people who jumped and if they encouraged people not to do it? Having spoken to many people who have attempted suicide, the vast majority are glad they got help and feel glad to be alive. I wonder if this film crew just stood back or tried to intervene?
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: RED-DOG on February 14, 2008, 06:39:04 PM Suicide Watch. Is that similar to a death clock?
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 14, 2008, 06:47:09 PM Suicide Watch. Is that similar to a death clock? time will tell.....:) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: RED-DOG on February 14, 2008, 06:49:09 PM Suicide Watch. Is that similar to a death clock? time will tell.....:) Groan.... Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 14, 2008, 06:51:44 PM Suicide Watch. Is that similar to a death clock? time will tell.....:) Groan.... lol, well you did set it up! Wind up merchant! lolol Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: RED-DOG on February 14, 2008, 06:56:22 PM Suicide Watch. Is that similar to a death clock? time will tell.....:) Groan.... ;surrender; lol, well you did set it up! Wind up merchant! lolol Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 14, 2008, 07:37:29 PM I question the ethics of crews that film people comitting suicide. In Scotland there is an anti suicide strategy and its known that many suicides can be prevented by encouraging someone to talk about their feelings. I agree with acid that some people will jump and have made their minds up to do it but there are many more who can be talked down. I'd like to know the details of any interactions (if any) between the film makers and people who jumped and if they encouraged people not to do it? Having spoken to many people who have attempted suicide, the vast majority are glad they got help and feel glad to be alive. I wonder if this film crew just stood back or tried to intervene? Nope they were filming from the side and did nothing whatsoever to intervene that was the sad thing, and as american tv is then went and interviewed the families and friends of the victims, they were shooting from the moment they got to the bridge to moment of hitting the water. there was i guy who whildt in mid jump changed his mind and plunged feet 1st and survived and was interviewed. He said when he was in the water a seal was swimming around him until he was rescued and he knew the seal was god. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 14, 2008, 07:53:43 PM did the film crew discuss the ethics?
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 14, 2008, 07:56:59 PM No it was just shoot and record
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 14, 2008, 07:57:47 PM terrible then in my opinion :(
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 14, 2008, 08:15:30 PM terrible then in my opinion :( ;iagree; but i suppose thas amearican tv for yah Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: IRISH LASSIE on February 15, 2008, 02:58:05 AM last nite on more4 i watched a programme about the golden gate bridge which is the single most popular suicide site in the world.the film was shot from various angles and caught on film half a dozen or so suicides from the 24 that took place in 2004,it interviewed friends and family of some of the jumpers and 1 who survived, CIA-but what struck me the most was why the hell don't they just make the barrier a lot taller with inward curved railings at the top to make it almost impossible to climb.the barrier on the film was only about 4 feet high all they had to do was skip up and off they went.(anyone know if this has changed?) The last jumper was the most bizarre. If they modify the structure as you recommend, that would then alter the bridge's status as the #1 spot! (http://img13.exs.cx/img13/5638/hiding5lp.gif) You know those tourist towns...... (http://img68.echo.cx/img68/4539/thcrazy8ad.gif) (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:2FTKp060n9bCkM:http://www.simonstirrup.co.uk/foreigntrips/california/images/GoldenGateBrFull.JPG) Looks like a beauty of a bridge, but I wonder why a red bridge is called the 'Golden Gate' bridge? I would expect that to look a wee bit more like (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:AHDnkR-TjLR1xM:http://blogs.sun.com/kevin/resource/MCGoldenGate) Cheers! I.L. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 15, 2008, 09:28:54 AM I wonder if any of the families have tried to sue because the barriers are too low??
maybe the golden arches on top the two main supports would look good??? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 15, 2008, 09:33:55 AM I question the ethics of crews that film people comitting suicide. In Scotland there is an anti suicide strategy and its known that many suicides can be prevented by encouraging someone to talk about their feelings. I agree with acid that some people will jump and have made their minds up to do it but there are many more who can be talked down. I'd like to know the details of any interactions (if any) between the film makers and people who jumped and if they encouraged people not to do it? Having spoken to many people who have attempted suicide, the vast majority are glad they got help and feel glad to be alive. I wonder if this film crew just stood back or tried to intervene? Nope they were filming from the side and did nothing whatsoever to intervene that was the sad thing, and as american tv is then went and interviewed the families and friends of the victims, they were shooting from the moment they got to the bridge to moment of hitting the water. there was i guy who whildt in mid jump changed his mind and plunged feet 1st and survived and was interviewed. He said when he was in the water a seal was swimming around him until he was rescued and he knew the seal was god. Why did the seal make his life so miserable in the first place that made him want to jump? :dontask: Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 15, 2008, 09:37:55 AM have you heard him sing???
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Royal Flush on February 15, 2008, 11:18:07 AM terrible then in my opinion :( For highlighting the effects of suicide on a jumpers family? I think it's a great thing to do! Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 15, 2008, 12:14:36 PM terrible then in my opinion :( For highlighting the effects of suicide on a jumpers family? I think it's a great thing to do! The peolpe interviewed didn't seem to overcome by grief.. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Rod Paradise on February 15, 2008, 02:26:50 PM Looks like a beauty of a bridge, but I wonder why a red bridge is called the 'Golden Gate' bridge? Because the strait is called the Golden Gate (and was before there was a bridge). Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 15, 2008, 03:06:08 PM Looks like a beauty of a bridge, but I wonder why a red bridge is called the 'Golden Gate' bridge? Because the strait is called the Golden Gate (and was before there was a bridge). It would have been clever of them to build the bridge before the strait was there! ;) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 15, 2008, 03:28:22 PM why would a crew making a film about suicide jumpers want to intervene?
they show up, see someone about to jump, persuade them it's a bad idea and then have to go home with no footage 'cos there's nothing to film anymore. they're not going to make much money from that film, would've been better hiring themselves out for weddings Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Acidmouse on February 15, 2008, 03:29:31 PM http://www.ggbsuicidebarrier.com/faq.asp
Used to ride my bike over the bridge to Uni for a year never seen one jump. It really is a long way down and really choppy waters. You wouldn't last long :( Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 15, 2008, 03:34:09 PM (http://www.friendsoffilm.com/images/vulture.jpg)
Kevin Carter's famous photograph showing a starving Sudanese child and a waiting vulture. He won the Pulitzer prize for the photo, but it always brings up the question of the morality of being a spectator to such events. Maybe even more so with some of his photos and experiences in apartheid South Africa. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 15, 2008, 03:44:19 PM A journalist highlights an issue..he is not responsible for (and can't be held responsible for) solving it. The guy that took that picture could have given the kid something to eat but the picture isn't about the child as an individual and helping that child would have done harm to the issue and harmed more children like the one in the (truly horrid) picture.
The same goes for the crew filming the jumpers..it is not up to the camera crew to stop them, they only make a wider audience aware of the issue and thereby can help many more people. I couldn't do the job them reporters do but I commend them for doing it. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 15, 2008, 06:58:19 PM terrible then in my opinion :( For highlighting the effects of suicide on a jumpers family? I think it's a great thing to do! Yes suicide is often a tabu subject and it's good to highlight the effects on families but the film crew could have intervened and potentially stopped a family from experiencing the effects in the first place. There are other ways to raise awareness than a 'shock' film but I do agree if it's helped anyone then thats good for the pople it's helped. I wonder how many people were hurt as a result of the film? I think if I was that family member and I knew the film crew stood back and watched, I wouldn't be too happy about it :( Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 15, 2008, 07:03:27 PM why would a crew making a film about suicide jumpers want to intervene? they show up, see someone about to jump, persuade them it's a bad idea and then have to go home with no footage 'cos there's nothing to film anymore. they're not going to make much money from that film, would've been better hiring themselves out for weddings eh, to potentially save just one life? And in that case it would be a great film for raising awareness, encouraging people to try to talk to their folks if they start isolating themselves or become depressed.....this of course won't work for everyone as some people have their minds made up that they don't want to be part of this life anymore. More i suspect act out, in a spur of the moment way and could be helped. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 15, 2008, 07:09:34 PM The same goes for the crew filming the jumpers..it is not up to the camera crew to stop them, they only make a wider audience aware of the issue and thereby can help many more people. I couldn't do the job them reporters do but I commend them for doing it. It's everyones responsibility, it's called humanity and Ill bet that film would have more impact if they filmed a few people being talked down? Most of us don't get the chance to talk someone down but they did and chose not to. Now is that ethical? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 15, 2008, 07:36:14 PM The same goes for the crew filming the jumpers..it is not up to the camera crew to stop them, they only make a wider audience aware of the issue and thereby can help many more people. I couldn't do the job them reporters do but I commend them for doing it. It's everyones responsibility, it's called humanity and Ill bet that film would have more impact if they filmed a few people being talked down? Most of us don't get the chance to talk someone down but they did and chose not to. Now is that ethical? We could all go to well-known suicide spots every week to 'talk people down', but we don't. Well I don't. We could all volunteer to help the Samaritans, but we don't. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 15, 2008, 07:56:04 PM what they should have done is gone to the families afterwards and said "hey we've just filmed your relative committing suicide and did nothing to stop it but dint worry cos it'll make a great docufilm" i know what i would have done if that had been 1 of my family members,chucked the fookers off as well
if i was the producer of the film i think i would have gone and filmed the saving of the poor souls and then filmed the family afterwards rejoicing in the fact that their loved one's had been saved. Most suicides could be prevented with last minute intervention,fortunately most people have never been in the position of contemplating it but i bet when yr that low all you need is a cool, calm, sense talking individual to talk u round. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 15, 2008, 08:15:07 PM The same goes for the crew filming the jumpers..it is not up to the camera crew to stop them, they only make a wider audience aware of the issue and thereby can help many more people. I couldn't do the job them reporters do but I commend them for doing it. It's everyones responsibility, it's called humanity and Ill bet that film would have more impact if they filmed a few people being talked down? Most of us don't get the chance to talk someone down but they did and chose not to. Now is that ethical? We could all go to well-known suicide spots every week to 'talk people down', but we don't. Well I don't. We could all volunteer to help the Samaritans, but we don't. exactamundo Kin Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 15, 2008, 08:20:18 PM The same goes for the crew filming the jumpers..it is not up to the camera crew to stop them, they only make a wider audience aware of the issue and thereby can help many more people. I couldn't do the job them reporters do but I commend them for doing it. It's everyones responsibility, it's called humanity and Ill bet that film would have more impact if they filmed a few people being talked down? Most of us don't get the chance to talk someone down but they did and chose not to. Now is that ethical? And you'd lose your money. The impact the pictures of Ethiopia made were because people were dying on television. Not because they were being saved. You can be pretty sure they had a long hard discussion about what to do if they saw someone ready to jump and I think they made the right one. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 15, 2008, 08:24:35 PM it's terrible that journalists film starving orphans in Africa. they know these kids are more than likely going to die so why son't they take them home with them to surrey and raise them.
it's terrible that nature film makers just watch the lion stalking antelopes. they could keep bibbing the horns on their jeeps to alert the prey. etc, etc. I could sit here and type nonsense like that all night Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Colchester Kev on February 15, 2008, 08:29:19 PM it's terrible that journalists film starving orphans in Africa. they know these kids are more than likely going to die so why son't they take them home with them to surrey and raise them. it's terrible that nature film makers just watch the lion stalking antelopes. they could keep bibbing the horns on their jeeps to alert the prey. etc, etc. I could sit here and type nonsense like that all night please do , it appeals to my sense of humour :) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 15, 2008, 08:30:54 PM it's terrible that journalists film starving orphans in Africa. they know these kids are more than likely going to die so why son't they take them home with them to surrey and raise them. it's terrible that nature film makers just watch the lion stalking antelopes. they could keep bibbing the horns on their jeeps to alert the prey. etc, etc. I could sit here and type nonsense like that all night Ahy yes Surrey..home of all the cruel journalist bastards. :) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 15, 2008, 08:33:11 PM Go take a running jump...
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 15, 2008, 08:38:42 PM it's terrible that journalists film starving orphans in Africa. they know these kids are more than likely going to die so why son't they take them home with them to surrey and raise them. it's terrible that nature film makers just watch the lion stalking antelopes. they could keep bibbing the horns on their jeeps to alert the prey. etc, etc. I could sit here and type nonsense like that all night please do , it appeals to my sense of humour :) nah, sorry mate, originally wrote 'I could sit here and type nonsense like that all night but I can't be arsed'. not sure why I deleted the last 5 words but I stand by them anyway, have more (different) nonsense to write Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 15, 2008, 08:41:39 PM It's all getting a Bridge to far
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 15, 2008, 08:46:07 PM Quote from: www.timporter.com/firstdraft/archives/000071.html Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer Kevin Carter who "convinced himself that he was right in the mid-1980s to photograph the first known public execution in South Africa by 'necklacing,' setting fire to a gasoline-filled tire around someone's neck. 'I was appalled at what they were doing. I was appalled at what I was doing. But then people started talking about those pictures... then I felt that maybe my actions hadn't been at all bad. Being a witness to something this horrible wasn't necessarily such a bad thing to do.' Carter later took his own life." and ironically for this thread: Quote from: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter On 27 July 1994 Carter drove to the Braamfonteinspruit river, near the Field and Study Centre, an area he used to play at as a child, and took his own life by taping one end of a hose to his pickup truck’s exhaust pipe and running the other end to the passenger-side window. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning at the age of 33. Portions of Carter's suicide note read: "I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky." Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: wader leg on February 15, 2008, 08:53:46 PM It's all getting a Bridge to far It's certainly taken its toll. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 15, 2008, 09:06:45 PM The same goes for the crew filming the jumpers..it is not up to the camera crew to stop them, they only make a wider audience aware of the issue and thereby can help many more people. I couldn't do the job them reporters do but I commend them for doing it. It's everyones responsibility, it's called humanity and Ill bet that film would have more impact if they filmed a few people being talked down? Most of us don't get the chance to talk someone down but they did and chose not to. Now is that ethical? We could all go to well-known suicide spots every week to 'talk people down', but we don't. Well I don't. We could all volunteer to help the Samaritans, but we don't. No we don't but you just raised awareness of how people could help if they wanted to. I doubt many people would want to sit on a bridge for 24 hours a day just incase? There are a couple of blondes I'm aware of who have worked for the samaratins so some of us do volunteer and help. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 15, 2008, 09:17:10 PM The same goes for the crew filming the jumpers..it is not up to the camera crew to stop them, they only make a wider audience aware of the issue and thereby can help many more people. I couldn't do the job them reporters do but I commend them for doing it. It's everyones responsibility, it's called humanity and Ill bet that film would have more impact if they filmed a few people being talked down? Most of us don't get the chance to talk someone down but they did and chose not to. Now is that ethical? And you'd lose your money. The impact the pictures of Ethiopia made were because people were dying on television. Not because they were being saved. Yes and the fact people jump and die is the message they want to put out and its not about them being saved. But in Ethiopia people can be saved and that why many campaigns use pictures such as the one kin posted. To show you can make a difference. This film doesnt give that hope and it would have a bigger impact if it did so I think my money is safe. You can be pretty sure they had a long hard discussion about what to do if they saw someone ready to jump and I think they made the right one. Did they? I think thats what I asked initially about considering the ethics and if they did I'd be very interested in that discussion. It may sway me? I doubt it? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 15, 2008, 09:17:37 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 15, 2008, 09:20:05 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? intervene Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 15, 2008, 09:21:33 PM Quote from: www.timporter.com/firstdraft/archives/000071.html Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer Kevin Carter who "convinced himself that he was right in the mid-1980s to photograph the first known public execution in South Africa by 'necklacing,' setting fire to a gasoline-filled tire around someone's neck. 'I was appalled at what they were doing. I was appalled at what I was doing. But then people started talking about those pictures... then I felt that maybe my actions hadn't been at all bad. Being a witness to something this horrible wasn't necessarily such a bad thing to do.' Carter later took his own life." and ironically for this thread: Quote from: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter On 27 July 1994 Carter drove to the Braamfonteinspruit river, near the Field and Study Centre, an area he used to play at as a child, and took his own life by taping one end of a hose to his pickup truck’s exhaust pipe and running the other end to the passenger-side window. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning at the age of 33. Portions of Carter's suicide note read: "I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky." This guy could not have done anything about what happened then. Those filmakers could but I bet it will still cause them some discomfort when they reflect on it? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Royal Flush on February 16, 2008, 11:15:30 AM A film showing the effects on a selfish suicide on the victims family is far more powerful than a cheery, oh look he is alive and is glad he dint jump.
As i understand people who commit suicide feel they have no way back to a normal life and have given up, seeing a film where someone made it back will not help them relate, they have already made up thier minds. The only thing that might make them stop is the thought of hurting others, especially family. Although its impossible to tell i am willing to bet that not intervening will be a +EV play and save more lives in the long term. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 11:28:18 AM A film showing the effects on a selfish suicide on the victims family is far more powerful than a cheery, oh look he is alive and is glad he dint jump. As i understand people who commit suicide feel they have no way back to a normal life and have given up, seeing a film where someone made it back will not help them relate, they have already made up thier minds. The only thing that might make them stop is the thought of hurting others, especially family. Although its impossible to tell i am willing to bet that not intervening will be a +EV play and save more lives in the long term. I dont know how suicide is cheery or can ever be. Maybe you think it's selfish but people that do it tend to be in a lot of pain and I reckon most do consider their families and feel so bad about themselves that they convince themselves that the world, including the family is better off without them! . I think you are missing my point. There may be a lot of families spared this pain if their folks didn't do it and from what CIA said, there was no demonstration of family emotion at all in the film. This is no help to families or people thinking about doing it or am I missing something? Not interneveing can't possibly save more lives - the film tells you - jump and you'll die. People already know that! As I said in an earlier post, there are lot of people who are glad they didnt die either after thinking about suicide or trying it and failing. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 16, 2008, 12:33:51 PM A film showing the effects on a selfish suicide on the victims family is far more powerful than a cheery, oh look he is alive and is glad he dint jump. As i understand people who commit suicide feel they have no way back to a normal life and have given up, seeing a film where someone made it back will not help them relate, they have already made up thier minds. The only thing that might make them stop is the thought of hurting others, especially family. Although its impossible to tell i am willing to bet that not intervening will be a +EV play and save more lives in the long term. How would you feel if 1 of your kids or family committed suicide and then a film crew turned up and said "hey we just filmed them doing it, we could have intervened but the film making was more important" Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 16, 2008, 01:17:11 PM A film showing the effects on a selfish suicide on the victims family is far more powerful than a cheery, oh look he is alive and is glad he dint jump. As i understand people who commit suicide feel they have no way back to a normal life and have given up, seeing a film where someone made it back will not help them relate, they have already made up thier minds. The only thing that might make them stop is the thought of hurting others, especially family. Although its impossible to tell i am willing to bet that not intervening will be a +EV play and save more lives in the long term. How would you feel if 1 of your kids or family committed suicide and then a film crew turned up and said "hey we just filmed them doing it, we could have intervened but the film making was more important" ridic question IMO. why would that ever happen? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 16, 2008, 01:22:14 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 01:27:44 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Royal Flush on February 16, 2008, 02:07:54 PM Many times modern history has show us how a journalist capturing an image can have a much greater global effect than intervening in the act itself.
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 02:12:12 PM Many times modern history has show us how a journalist capturing an image can have a much greater global effect than intervening in the act itself. yes but those images often spur us on to help. what is this film encouraging us to do? Express that those who jump are 'selfish' in your own words? One thing it is doing is raising the awareness because we are here talking about it. There are similarities I agree but in this case it would be much more powerful to let the viewers see that helping people is very effective. Its left the audience feeling impotent IMO. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 16, 2008, 02:17:01 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 02:21:12 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 16, 2008, 02:39:44 PM there was 1 guy on the prog that litterally dragged a girl back over the railing and saved her life,and she is still alive today,
i know for a fact that if i saw someone i would do exactly the same thing.. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 16, 2008, 02:41:05 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 02:46:03 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 16, 2008, 03:23:00 PM there will always be the 1's that would assist and there will always be the 1's who do turn the other cheek and stare from a safe distance.
having being trained in first aid,due to my work it only seem fit that if i saw an incident then i would use my training to assit even if it was just someone who fell over i'd offer to help them up. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Colchester Kev on February 16, 2008, 03:36:42 PM Must just be me that laughs when i see someone fall over then :)
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 03:40:22 PM Must just be me that laughs when i see someone fall over then :) even if someone fell because they just took a heart attack? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Claw75 on February 16, 2008, 03:47:08 PM Must just be me that laughs when i see someone fall over then :) I can't help it, but I do find it really funny when old people fall over. I know it's not, and I feel really bad about it, but it's more of an instinctive thing. I am bad. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Colchester Kev on February 16, 2008, 03:47:37 PM I believe people collapse when they are struck with things like heart attacks etc ... bit different to people tripping over in the street..
PS. do you have ceremonial burials for all the poor bugs that hit the windscreen of your 2 seater gas guzzling car ...or does yours run on carrot juice ;) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 16, 2008, 03:56:26 PM I believe people collapse when they are struck with things like heart attacks etc ... bit different to people tripping over in the street.. PS. do you have ceremonial burials for all the poor bugs that hit the windscreen of your 2 seater gas guzzling car ...or does yours run on carrot juice ;) i just wait til i get home and let my pet frog have them for tea. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 16, 2008, 04:08:26 PM Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. spot on. and there's the numerous cases of people doing nothing when witnessing assaults on crowded streets or trains etc, etc. as a race we're just pretty horrible even if we like to think otherwise Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Claw75 on February 16, 2008, 04:19:04 PM Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. spot on. and there's the numerous cases of people doing nothing when witnessing assaults on crowded streets or trains etc, etc. as a race we're just pretty horrible even if we like to think otherwise yep - I think your own survival instinct kicks in. I'd always have like to think I'd stop and help someone, but I was faced with this a few years ago when I saw a young girl get mugged by a guy in the street round the corner from where I lived. My instinctive reacton was just to run home . I wouldn't have been able to physically overpower the guy, but I might have been able to scare him off, but I guess the fear of getting hurt took over. So I went home and called the police and felt very ashamed and sick with myself for my cowardice :( Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 16, 2008, 04:23:52 PM yep - I think your own survival instinct kicks in. I'd always have like to think I'd stop and help someone, but I was faced with this a few years ago when I saw a young girl get mugged by a guy in the street round the corner from where I lived. My instinctive reacton was just to run home . I wouldn't have been able to physically overpower the guy, but I might have been able to scare him off, but I guess the fear of getting hurt took over. So I went home and called the police and felt very ashamed and sick with myself for my cowardice :( a great example of what I was talking about earlier, we all like to think we'd react in a certain way but when it comes down to it very few people do. it doesn't make us bad as individuals, it's just human nature Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 04:43:08 PM I believe people collapse when they are struck with things like heart attacks etc ... bit different to people tripping over in the street.. PS. do you have ceremonial burials for all the poor bugs that hit the windscreen of your 2 seater gas guzzling car ...or does yours run on carrot juice ;) No I just have a collective service once per year :) Is it bad to care? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 16, 2008, 04:53:18 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it? Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Claw75 on February 16, 2008, 04:55:58 PM nice post boldie
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 05:01:50 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it? Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place? You seemed assured of human nature so I assumed you were a witness to this kind of behaviour? If not then thats great :) I also think people falling over is funny because I like slapstick, but I wouldnt want to see an old person falling as their bones are less dense and they could potentially break one.... The development of caring for each other needs to start within yourself and if you think mother theresa is the benchmark then we all got a lot to live up to. I think there are more that care and would help out than not. I'm glad to hear you would help but how did you come by your view? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 16, 2008, 05:03:04 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it? Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place? You seemed assured of human nature so I assumed you were a witness to this kind of behaviour? If not then thats great :) I also think people falling over is funny because I like slapstick, but I wouldnt want to see an old person falling as their bones are less dense and they could potentially break one.... The development of caring for each other needs to start within yourself and if you think mother theresa is the benchmark then we all got a lot to live up to. I think there are more that care and would help out than not. I'm glad to hear you would help but how did you come by your view? Reading and watching the news and generally living in the real world. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 05:07:30 PM so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene?? not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it? Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place? You seemed assured of human nature so I assumed you were a witness to this kind of behaviour? If not then thats great :) I also think people falling over is funny because I like slapstick, but I wouldnt want to see an old person falling as their bones are less dense and they could potentially break one.... The development of caring for each other needs to start within yourself and if you think mother theresa is the benchmark then we all got a lot to live up to. I think there are more that care and would help out than not. I'm glad to hear you would help but how did you come by your view? Reading and watching the news and generally living in the real world. Thinking about it that why i stopped reading papers years ago and watching the news ......... I live in the real world too but must have differing experiences from you to come to my conclusions? Sure I sometimes ponder the darkness in the world but that tends to be fleeting and because im on a downer with everything.... Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 16, 2008, 07:57:56 PM Who brought Mother Teresa into this 'role model' for caring for humanity?
She was one of the ones condemning the use of contraception in India and third world countries. Population control would have saved tens of thousands of lives in India and other countries where catholic doctrine is preached and strictly observed. That is without looking at AIDS and other diseases that could be dramatically controlled by the use of condoms and education about their use. Caring for humanity? Give me a break. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: AndrewT on February 16, 2008, 08:05:16 PM I think someone just told Kinboshi that Mother Teresa was a Barnsley fan.
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 16, 2008, 08:08:22 PM I think someone just told Kinboshi that Mother Teresa was a Barnsley fan. I'm on life tilt. It's a good job I don't live in San Fransico. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 16, 2008, 09:46:40 PM Who brought Mother Teresa into this 'role model' for caring for humanity? She was one of the ones condemning the use of contraception in India and third world countries. Population control would have saved tens of thousands of lives in India and other countries where catholic doctrine is preached and strictly observed. That is without looking at AIDS and other diseases that could be dramatically controlled by the use of condoms and education about their use. Caring for humanity? Give me a break. it was boldie................. ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; :) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: gatso on February 17, 2008, 12:18:32 AM Who brought Mother Teresa into this 'role model' for caring for humanity? She was one of the ones condemning the use of contraception in India and third world countries. Population control would have saved tens of thousands of lives in India and other countries where catholic doctrine is preached and strictly observed. That is without looking at AIDS and other diseases that could be dramatically controlled by the use of condoms and education about their use. Caring for humanity? Give me a break. it was boldie................. ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; :) grass Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: TightEnd on February 17, 2008, 12:20:14 AM frequently, I would think
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 17, 2008, 10:19:42 AM Who brought Mother Teresa into this 'role model' for caring for humanity? She was one of the ones condemning the use of contraception in India and third world countries. Population control would have saved tens of thousands of lives in India and other countries where catholic doctrine is preached and strictly observed. That is without looking at AIDS and other diseases that could be dramatically controlled by the use of condoms and education about their use. Caring for humanity? Give me a break. it was boldie................. ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; :) grass give kin some and he might chill out a bit! Yeh mother theresa is not perfect ....I fully support the notion that religion gets in the way of protecting life and doing the right thing from a scientific/common sense basis but there is no doubt she was doing something caring or would not have the rep she does, warts and all. As for break, I got a choice for you - any bone or a weekend in blackpool? ;hide; Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 17, 2008, 03:43:24 PM Who brought Mother Teresa into this 'role model' for caring for humanity? She was one of the ones condemning the use of contraception in India and third world countries. Population control would have saved tens of thousands of lives in India and other countries where catholic doctrine is preached and strictly observed. That is without looking at AIDS and other diseases that could be dramatically controlled by the use of condoms and education about their use. Caring for humanity? Give me a break. it was boldie................. ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; :) He really should know better. Maybe he's got a thing for old, leather-faced women? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 17, 2008, 04:23:44 PM Who brought Mother Teresa into this 'role model' for caring for humanity? She was one of the ones condemning the use of contraception in India and third world countries. Population control would have saved tens of thousands of lives in India and other countries where catholic doctrine is preached and strictly observed. That is without looking at AIDS and other diseases that could be dramatically controlled by the use of condoms and education about their use. Caring for humanity? Give me a break. it was boldie................. ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; ;shame; :) grass give kin some and he might chill out a bit! Yeh mother theresa is not perfect ....I fully support the notion that religion gets in the way of protecting life and doing the right thing from a scientific/common sense basis but there is no doubt she was doing something caring or would not have the rep she does, warts and all. As for break, I got a choice for you - any bone or a weekend in blackpool? ;hide; did you just ask if Kin preferred having a bone to a weekend in Blackpool? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: B/FsCousinKev on February 18, 2008, 05:07:57 PM Just read this thread, boldie you think it's funny when old people fall ?? WTF.
If you were walking down the street with your gran and she fell over would that be funny ? what would ya say if I walked up and just started laughing out loud at her mate ? Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 19, 2008, 08:06:13 AM Just read this thread, boldie you think it's funny when old people fall ?? WTF. If you were walking down the street with your gran and she fell over would that be funny ? what would ya say if I walked up and just started laughing out loud at her mate ? Oh FFS. Did I say i would walk up to someone who had fallen over and point and laugh out loud? No I didn't..as that would be rude..but you can be pretty damned sure i snigger a bit as it is funny Yes i think it's funny when people fall. If old people fall it's still funny..and if over sensitive people fall it's even funnier. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 19, 2008, 10:23:30 AM OH FFS
Have to agree with ya boldie ffs just because people who laugh at others misfortune doesn't make them bad people I'd say 99% would laugh I know i have laughed b4 when sitting on a bus watching someone run for it and go ass over elbow with all their bags, and before when I've helped people who have fallen over, i have roared with laughter when they are on their way,what does that make me a sadistic saint??? ;goodvevil;????? Am just going to fall over and laugh at myself rotflmfao u gotta love the way these threads twist and turn Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 19, 2008, 12:33:11 PM OH FFS Have to agree with ya boldie ffs Oh feck.. NOW LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE B/f cousin Kev. ;) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: Royal Flush on February 19, 2008, 02:08:38 PM It must be so boring being righteous.
Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: boldie on February 19, 2008, 02:10:08 PM It must be so boring being righteous. I dunno, ask Jesus. Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: kinboshi on February 19, 2008, 02:11:16 PM It must be so boring being righteous. (http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/%A5Artist%20GIF%20Images/Righteous-Brothers-9.jpg) Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: TightEnd on February 19, 2008, 02:11:29 PM It must be so boring being righteous. You've lost that loving feeling, Flushy Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 19, 2008, 05:14:35 PM Oh feck.. NOW LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE B/f cousin Kev. ;) [/quote] Armageddon will follow............. ;starwars; Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: B/FsCousinKev on February 19, 2008, 05:40:56 PM oh well it seems i am in the minority here in finding no humour at all in an old person falling over, in fact its quite the opposite it makes me feel quite sad!! but hey maybe im just a big poof with no sense of humour at all, maybe if i joined "the gang" and turned into a loudmouth opionated arrogant moaning egomaniac eedgit i would learn to develop this humour thing?but i would then probably lose all my real "live" friends who would quite correctly tell me to"fuck right off" so i think i will just stay humourless and leave all the blonde humour manifesto decission making to the experts! i will now crawl back under the the stone i came from and say five thousand hail marys as penance and apology.
peace KEV Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: cia260895 on February 19, 2008, 05:49:30 PM oh well it seems i am in the minority here in finding no humour at all in an old person falling over, in fact its quite the opposite it makes me feel quite sad!! but hey maybe im just a big poof with no sense of humour at all, maybe if i joined "the gang" and turned into a loudmouth opionated arrogant moaning egomaniac eedgit i would learn to develop this humour thing?but i would then probably lose all my real "live" friends who would quite correctly tell me to"fuck right off" so i think i will just stay humourless and leave all the blonde humour manifesto decission making to the experts! i will now crawl back under the the stone i came from and say five thousand hail marys as penance and apology. peace KEV Just dont try to adopt and all will be cool :dontask: :redcard: "loudmouth opionated arrogant moaning egomaniac eedgit " would be a ;first; on blonde Title: Re: Suicide Watch Post by: madasahatstand on February 20, 2008, 08:48:20 AM It must be so boring being righteous. yes I'm sure you know all about that..................................... |