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« Reply #75 on: February 16, 2008, 04:53:18 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it?Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place?
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« Reply #76 on: February 16, 2008, 04:55:58 PM » |
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« Reply #77 on: February 16, 2008, 05:01:50 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it?Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place? You seemed assured of human nature so I assumed you were a witness to this kind of behaviour? If not then thats great  I also think people falling over is funny because I like slapstick, but I wouldnt want to see an old person falling as their bones are less dense and they could potentially break one.... The development of caring for each other needs to start within yourself and if you think mother theresa is the benchmark then we all got a lot to live up to. I think there are more that care and would help out than not. I'm glad to hear you would help but how did you come by your view?
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« Reply #78 on: February 16, 2008, 05:03:04 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it?Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place? You seemed assured of human nature so I assumed you were a witness to this kind of behaviour? If not then thats great  I also think people falling over is funny because I like slapstick, but I wouldnt want to see an old person falling as their bones are less dense and they could potentially break one.... The development of caring for each other needs to start within yourself and if you think mother theresa is the benchmark then we all got a lot to live up to. I think there are more that care and would help out than not. I'm glad to hear you would help but how did you come by your view?Reading and watching the news and generally living in the real world.
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« Reply #79 on: February 16, 2008, 05:07:30 PM » |
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so if you were in the position and saw someone who was going to jump would you just watch or try to intervene??
not particularly relevant to this discussion as it has nothing to do with the morals or otherwise of journalists but an interesting question nonetheless. I'm pretty sure that most people would like to think that they would try to intervene, however I feel the truth may be somewhat different. I honestly feel that most people when put in that situation would either stand by and watch or walk off and pretend it wasn't happening. Human nature is not always what we'd like to believe it is. I do hope you are wrong..... I'd love to be wrong on this one too but doubt that I am. why? Because people have become completely numb to the misery of someone else. How many times have you seen someone fall in the street and noone helped them?..or most people just walk past pretending they didn't see it? Why do people slow down when passing a car crash..they do it to watch..and only to watch. People don't slow down to lend assistance as they still drive on. I think it's wonderful that you seem to have such a high opinion of mankind but Mother Theresa is the exception and not the rule. Maybe your view is over cynical? Ive saw plenty people falling in the street and have never saw people just walking past and thats the same for car crashes. Ive jumped out to a few myself and there has always been people there before me or the 999 services. Have you witnessed this? If you have then you didn't help either i take it?Interesting..because I think humanity as a whole stinks and claim most people ignore someone who falls you assume I also ignore them. I am with Kev..Someone tripping over (including old people) is funny..and makes me laugh out loud...that doesn't mean I don't help them if they need it though. I have a thorough dislike for humanity as a whole and the state of mankind that does however not mean I am uncaring to the misery that is in the world..after all..why do you think I dislike mankind so much in the first place? You seemed assured of human nature so I assumed you were a witness to this kind of behaviour? If not then thats great  I also think people falling over is funny because I like slapstick, but I wouldnt want to see an old person falling as their bones are less dense and they could potentially break one.... The development of caring for each other needs to start within yourself and if you think mother theresa is the benchmark then we all got a lot to live up to. I think there are more that care and would help out than not. I'm glad to hear you would help but how did you come by your view?Reading and watching the news and generally living in the real world. Thinking about it that why i stopped reading papers years ago and watching the news ......... I live in the real world too but must have differing experiences from you to come to my conclusions? Sure I sometimes ponder the darkness in the world but that tends to be fleeting and because im on a downer with everything....
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« Reply #80 on: February 16, 2008, 07:57:56 PM » |
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Who brought Mother Teresa into this 'role model' for caring for humanity?
She was one of the ones condemning the use of contraception in India and third world countries. Population control would have saved tens of thousands of lives in India and other countries where catholic doctrine is preached and strictly observed. That is without looking at AIDS and other diseases that could be dramatically controlled by the use of condoms and education about their use.
Caring for humanity? Give me a break.
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« Reply #81 on: February 16, 2008, 08:05:16 PM » |
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I think someone just told Kinboshi that Mother Teresa was a Barnsley fan.
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« Reply #82 on: February 16, 2008, 08:08:22 PM » |
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I think someone just told Kinboshi that Mother Teresa was a Barnsley fan.
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« Reply #83 on: February 16, 2008, 09:46:40 PM » |
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« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2008, 12:18:32 AM » |
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« Reply #85 on: February 17, 2008, 12:20:14 AM » |
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« Reply #86 on: February 17, 2008, 10:19:42 AM » |
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give kin some and he might chill out a bit! Yeh mother theresa is not perfect ....I fully support the notion that religion gets in the way of protecting life and doing the right thing from a scientific/common sense basis but there is no doubt she was doing something caring or would not have the rep she does, warts and all. As for break, I got a choice for you - any bone or a weekend in blackpool? 
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« Reply #87 on: February 17, 2008, 03:43:24 PM » |
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He really should know better. Maybe he's got a thing for old, leather-faced women?
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« Reply #88 on: February 17, 2008, 04:23:44 PM » |
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give kin some and he might chill out a bit! Yeh mother theresa is not perfect ....I fully support the notion that religion gets in the way of protecting life and doing the right thing from a scientific/common sense basis but there is no doubt she was doing something caring or would not have the rep she does, warts and all. As for break, I got a choice for you - any bone or a weekend in blackpool?  did you just ask if Kin preferred having a bone to a weekend in Blackpool?
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« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2008, 05:07:57 PM » |
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Just read this thread, boldie you think it's funny when old people fall ?? WTF.
If you were walking down the street with your gran and she fell over would that be funny ?
what would ya say if I walked up and just started laughing out loud at her mate ?
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