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Title: american football
Post by: Butternuts on May 25, 2008, 11:36:06 PM
Anyone here nfl fans?

Who do you support, i am a giants fan :D (Which i didn't choose on February 4th, supported them since i started watching)
Unfortunately i only started watching at game 16 last season, so didn't get to watch a lot of it and can't believe how the off season is!

Also if your interested in rpg games, theres a good nfl one: http://goallineblitz.com/game/signup.pl?ref=12673862


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 25, 2008, 11:38:28 PM
Yes.

Very Keen

Cowboys

If they played all year round they'd be in wheelchairs at 40!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Butternuts on May 25, 2008, 11:42:04 PM
Cowboys!?
Apparently you are our rivals :D same division i think..

I can see them doing well this year, good QB and you have apparently made some good signings to an already good team.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 25, 2008, 11:43:01 PM
Cowboys!?
Apparently you are our rivals :D same division i think..

I can see them doing well this year, good QB and you have apparently made some good signings to an already good team.

we are bitter rivals.

Should be a good season, but we choke when it counts usually.



Title: Re: american football
Post by: LeKnave on May 25, 2008, 11:43:19 PM
we'r getting involved in NFL when we ship a new flat and get hooked up with sky etc.

diff team each ftw.

lets gogogo the miami dolphins.


ps. some1 plz explain everything to me, tried to learn how the league works the other day and even thats impossible to understand.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 25, 2008, 11:47:17 PM
I've supported the Jets since school. unfortunately they fail at the game.

we also hate the Giants


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Eck on May 25, 2008, 11:50:30 PM
we'r getting involved in NFL when we ship a new flat and get hooked up with sky etc.

diff team each ftw.

lets gogogo the miami dolphins.


ps. some1 plz explain everything to me, tried to learn how the league works the other day and even thats impossible to understand.

Poker and the Miami Dolphins you truely are some kind of masochist, they have been my team since i first seen Dan Marino when c4 started broadcasting it (tighty will know how long that is). They have failed to deliver on more occassions than the sunday fk my life thread...gl btw    :D


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 25, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
No its not


Here we go

28 teams

2 conferences

4 divisions in each conference (regionalised in effect)

the 8 division winners and the two best placed teams aside from that make the play offs..a knock out seeded comp that runs post season through to the superbowl

where the winners of the american and national conferences play each other

16 game season. Each teams plays those in its division home and away, plus fixtures against those with similar records from the year before

Each team is salary capped, currently $120m..so there are few superstar teams, teams can go from last to first in each year

aided by the draft where the worst team gets first pick of that year's college talent etc etc

The game itself

53 man rosters

11 a side on offense, defense and special teams

Offense

QB, RB, WR, TE (skill positions) and line men (big blockers/protectors of the QB)

Defense

Defensive linemen and Pass rushers (their job is to sack the QB and stop the run), Linebackers (stop run and pass), secondary (stop passes)

Special teams

Kickers, punters and players above in specialised roles

6 points for a touchdown, 1 for a conversion

3 for a field goal

You have 4 downs (turns) to progress the ball 10 yards up the field. If you do you get another 4 goes. If not, the ball is turned over to the other side. Or this happens if the ball is split and recovered by the other side or caught by the other side

Hugely complex strategies that you'll learn in time


happy to answer further questions. Its a wonderful game.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: bobby1 on May 25, 2008, 11:52:48 PM
Just about the best sport imo, I dont really have a team as I follow all of em but my favs are prob the Jets and the Saints.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Butternuts on May 25, 2008, 11:53:59 PM
You choked last year in the game agains the giants, cowboys are a better team but when you have Eli playing the postseason of his life it's pretty hard :P

Miami dolphins, you had a pretty dreadful season - i don't know how much a team can change in one year (as i've haven't watched a full seaosn yet) but good luck, you definately made the best pick in the draft, first time i saw that guy i thought he will definately be picked first.
I didn't understand anything in the first game i watched but after 2 or 3 games basically understood everything, with a little help form the internet for some minor things. You'll get the hang of it pretty quick, i think i need to have a quick look at the league works too actually...basically it's team with most wins isn't it, but there needs to be a certain number of teams from each conference. So i will check on that too.

I can see the jets being our rivals too, being the same city and all :D


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 25, 2008, 11:54:23 PM
surely 32 teams tighty?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 25, 2008, 11:54:47 PM
we'r getting involved in NFL when we ship a new flat and get hooked up with sky etc.

diff team each ftw.

lets gogogo the miami dolphins.


ps. some1 plz explain everything to me, tried to learn how the league works the other day and even thats impossible to understand.

Dolphins..ugh!!!!

get Horneris to follow Bobby1 and the tightmeister sports betting thru the season

Bobby's a north American weather saddo for points spreads. I back underdogs that are hopefully over-priced


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 25, 2008, 11:55:34 PM
surely 32 teams tighty?

yes, my mistake.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: vegaslover on May 25, 2008, 11:56:38 PM
Did anyone get tickets to the London game in the first lottery this week?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 25, 2008, 11:57:52 PM
Did anyone get tickets to the London game in the first lottery this week?


didn't try tbh, though this game (Chargers/Saints) is a lot better on paper than last season's.

I try and go over to watch in the states once a season

Did the Meadowlands (Giants vs Cowboys) three years ago


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Butternuts on May 25, 2008, 11:58:08 PM
'the 8 division winners and the two best placed teams aside from that make the play offs..a knock out seeded comp that runs post season through to the superbowl'

Ah, thank you..simple really, i thought it's be something like that.
How do the wild cards work though, the 2 best places teams aside from divisional winners play against who, the 2 worst divisional winners?



Title: Re: american football
Post by: Butternuts on May 25, 2008, 11:59:51 PM
Did anyone get tickets to the London game in the first lottery this week?

I'd have loved too but wouldn't have anyone to go with as none of my friends watch it :(
I wanna watch a game in america some time soon though, as soon as i can really...


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:00:09 AM
each conference: Play offs

4 div winners

the two teams with the next best records

those two play the two division winners with the poorest records in the wild card round

the best two get a bye week

in effect therefore quarters, semis and a final for each conf then a superbowl

the teams with the best record get home field advantage, which can be crucial..eg Green Bay in January.....

or that fantastic snow game in Cleveland late last year


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:01:05 AM
Did anyone get tickets to the London game in the first lottery this week?

I'd have loved too but wouldn't have anyone to go with as none of my friends watch it :(
I wanna watch a game in america some time soon though, as soon as i can really...


a number of blondes went to the wembley game this year. You'd have no trouble finding takers for tickets on here if you get any


Title: Re: american football
Post by: LeKnave on May 26, 2008, 12:11:52 AM
each conference: Play offs

4 div winners

the two teams with the next best records

those two play the two division winners with the poorest records in the wild card round

the best two get a bye week

in effect therefore quarters, semis and a final for each conf then a superbowl

the teams with the best record get home field advantage, which can be crucial..eg Green Bay in January.....

or that fantastic snow game in Cleveland late last year

are there 10 teams in the superbowl them?

and its 10>8>4>2>winner?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:13:14 AM
no the winners of each conference play in the superbowl

there are 12 teams..6 per confernece..in the play offs to play down to the superbowl


Title: Re: american football
Post by: LeKnave on May 26, 2008, 12:15:38 AM
no the winners of each conference play in the superbowl

there are 12 teams..6 per confernece..in the play offs to play down to the superbowl

I get it.

4 winners in AFC
2 next best from others in AFC
4 winners in NFC
2 next best from others in NFC

And winners of AFC playoffs play winners of NFC playoff in ze superbowl.

ship it.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 12:16:58 AM
question for you Tighty.

superbowl III, the only one that the Jets won was the 1st one to actually be called a superbowl. what were superbowls I and II called at the time? were they world championships or something?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on May 26, 2008, 12:18:46 AM
cant wait for the new seaon, still a long way off though, the beauty about the nfl, no team ever dominates for a very long period, i follow the 49rs, have done since the early 80s, they where the man utd of the mid 80s to early 90 and i still think the best team ever in the late 80s , now there the derby county, so no matter who you choose to support they will come good some time and fade away, its a fair system they have set up , weaker teams can get great players so in theory squads get stronger and weaker over a period of time,,they can afford to do this as there is no relegation and in the long run its good for the game,


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:19:46 AM
got it.


The Powerhouses are, recently

The New England Patriots
The Indianapolis Colts
The San Diego Chargers

in the Afc


and in the NFC

the Cowboys/Redskins/Giants/Eagles rivalry is huge in the same divsion

the Green Bay Packers are the old style traditional teram, in the same division as the Chicago Bears


Also rans..badly managed/underperforming for ages now:

Oakland Raiders, Detroit Lions, the Dolphins, Buffalo Bills, Cincinnati Bengals etc etc

the beauty of it is though that this turns v v quickly with a good management teram, good talent drafting etc


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:23:00 AM
question for you Tighty.

superbowl III, the only one that the Jets won was the 1st one to actually be called a superbowl. what were superbowls I and II called at the time? were they world championships or something?


Green Bay won the first two, coached by legendary Vince Lombardi

At the time it was the NFL and the AFL (until Superbowl 5 actually when the teams were in the AFC and the NFC when the NFL bought out the AFL)

After GB won the first two, and Lombardi retired, they made the Lombardi trophy which the superbowl winners play for to this day, and developed the concept of the superbowl


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 12:24:46 AM
question for you Tighty.

superbowl III, the only one that the Jets won was the 1st one to actually be called a superbowl. what were superbowls I and II called at the time? were they world championships or something?


Green Bay won the first two, coached by legendary Vince Lombardi

At the time it was the NFL and the AFL (until Superbowl 5 actually when the teams were in the AFC and the NFC when the NFL bought out the AFL)

After GB won the first two, and Lombardi retired, they made the Lombardi trophy which the superbowl winners play for to this day, and developed the concept of the superbowl

but GB won the first 2 what? I'm trying to find out what it was called then


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:25:48 AM
well I know them as Superbowls 1 and 2....




Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:27:05 AM
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history

bottom of page

refers to superbowl 1 as the "first world championship game nfl vs afl"


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Longy on May 26, 2008, 12:29:12 AM
question for you Tighty.

superbowl III, the only one that the Jets won was the 1st one to actually be called a superbowl. what were superbowls I and II called at the time? were they world championships or something?

Tighty will probably correct me, I think it was called the superbowl from the get go. The newly formed AFL formed early 60's, champions played the older NFL (formed post world war 1) champions played each other for the first time in 66. The first two games were not close at all Green Bay won both but the superbowl 3 was a massive shock. At that point the leagues amalgamated to form todays NFL with the old AFL becoming the AFC and the old NFL teams becoming the AFC.

I have been a Dolphins since a pretty early age (about 5) after watching a game on C4 where the Dolphins beat the previously unbeaten Bears in a Monday night game. At the time they were a very attractive team with a shoddy defence, no running game but a brilliant offensive line, receivers and of course Dan Marino at qb.

My dad got me into it and he is totally obsessive about the sport. My interest has waned in recent years but got back into a bit last season.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:30:53 AM
question for you Tighty.

superbowl III, the only one that the Jets won was the 1st one to actually be called a superbowl. what were superbowls I and II called at the time? were they world championships or something?

Tighty will probably correct me, I think it was called the superbowl from the get go. The newly formed AFL formed early 60's, champions played the older NFL (formed post world war 1) champions played each other for the first time in 66. The first two games were not close at all Green Bay won both but the superbowl 3 was a massive shock. At that point the leagues amalgamated to form todays NFL with the old AFL becoming the AFC and the old NFL teams becoming the AFC.

I have been a Dolphins since a pretty early age (about 5) after watching a game on C4 where the Dolphins beat the previously unbeaten Bears in a Monday night game. At the time they were a very attractive team with a shoddy defence, no running game but a brilliant offensive line, receivers and of course Dan Marino at qb.

My dad got me into it and he is totally obsessive about the sport. My interest has waned in recent years but got back into a bit last season.


spot on

dolphins got a lot of UK supporters as Marino was fantastic when C4 first started covering it in the 1980s

dolphins, raiders, 49ers, cowboys the four most supported teams by UK fans


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 12:31:42 AM
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history

bottom of page

refers to superbowl 1 as the "first world championship game nfl vs afl"

cheers, world championship was what I thought although I thought both I and II were called that, apparently not though.

good job you didn't get that one on mastermind.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history

bottom of page

refers to superbowl 1 as the "first world championship game nfl vs afl"

cheers, world championship was what I thought although I thought both I and II were called that, apparently not though.

good job you didn't get that one on mastermind.


nah, I deliberately narrowed it down to "the nfl in the salary cap era" ie the 1990s onwards.

Ship!!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 12:38:00 AM

nah, I deliberately narrowed it down to "the nfl in the salary cap era" ie the 1990s onwards.

Ship!!

clever, I thought you did the somewhat bigger subject 'history of the NFL'.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 12:39:31 AM

nah, I deliberately narrowed it down to "the nfl in the salary cap era" ie the 1990s onwards.

Ship!!

clever, I thought you did the somewhat bigger subject 'history of the NFL'.


nope, its a very very obsessive subject with a huge amount of stats (like baseball I suppose)..had to keep it realistic


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 12:45:12 AM
ok, just found this

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5265679

so superbowl 1 appears to have been called the world championship game and not sb1



Title: Re: american football
Post by: bobby1 on May 26, 2008, 12:46:58 AM
Did anyone get tickets to the London game in the first lottery this week?

I can get 4 in this weeks clickathon but nt sure how to find my Tickermaster login details as In havent used em since last year. Shoukd be a much better game this year.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Royal Flush on May 26, 2008, 01:21:51 AM
Got access to tickets again, ship!!

Been a big fan of it since living in South Florida, as such i have the pain of following the 'fins.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: 77dave on May 26, 2008, 02:54:50 AM
Living in Vegas is the easiest place in America for sports betting but no  franchise team in the 4 major sports.


Unship

Go Bears!!!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Woody502 on May 26, 2008, 05:03:33 AM
For my sins I am a fan of the 49ers! :(
To say we have been poor the past few seasons is an under statement it seems like a million years ago since the glory years of Montana, Rice and co.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Indestructable on May 26, 2008, 08:37:53 AM
Anyone else had an email offering the chance to buy tickets for Wembley from Thursday?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Suited_Jock on May 26, 2008, 09:26:25 AM
Living in Vegas is the easiest place in America for sports betting but no  franchise team in the 4 major sports.


Unship

Go Bears!!!

Heard that may be changing in the near future..Jerry Buckenheimer wants to bring an NHL team there and I heard the NBA is considering it too..

As for me I don't watch it too often but know most of the rules etc and if i was to say i supported (loosest sense of the word) anyone it would be da bears...


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Newportlad on May 26, 2008, 12:10:00 PM
Anyone else had an email offering the chance to buy tickets for Wembley from Thursday?

 :)up

BTW: i'm a 49ers fan.  Seems like forever since the days of Montana/Rice/Young/Lott.
I used to play the game in the early 90's.  I believe Tighty did as well, which is where his name came from..


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on May 26, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
i dont fancy any team strongly to win the superbowl this season, my bet will be on san diego, they lost there star running back with a injury late in the season, he only played a few minutes against new england in the playoffs just when they needed him,so with a bit of luck they should have a good season, i would not put a penny on new england this year, 7/2 is an awful price,i do hope i am wrong as i am a big fan of brady but i am waiting to see how brady plays this year, he did play with a injury during the playoffs but he took a lot of hits late in the season and  played scared i think, he was missing wide open players throwing to early and not the same player he has been over the years,this may have been due to his injury feeling vulnerable but i have a feeling he will not stand in the pocket and throw the ball at the last second knowing he is going to take a bad hit as often ,i may be wrong as he was injured and he may get better protection this year.just think 7/2 is very bad price


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Horneris on May 26, 2008, 08:34:42 PM
Who are the worst 3 teams out of all 32 teams please?

We are all choosing a team to support each, as LeKnave said for next season, and i always like the underdog and hate the big boys, so i wana support a team that no-one else does, will hardly ever win, but will feel great when we do.

ty.

Also, When does the season start plz.

edit: hes just told me Miami were the worst last year and hes alredi shot-gunned them. fk my life.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Acidmouse on May 26, 2008, 08:38:17 PM
Me and wife support the 49'ers her coming from San fran but they really are shite. They must be in the bottom 3.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Laxie on May 26, 2008, 08:42:58 PM
Cleveland Browns are my team...but they're rubbish too. 


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
Who are the worst 3 teams out of all 32 teams please?

We are all choosing a team to support each, as LeKnave said for next season, and i always like the underdog and hate the big boys, so i wana support a team that no-one else does, will hardly ever win, but will feel great when we do.

ty.

Also, When does the season start plz.

edit: hes just told me Miami were the worst last year and hes alredi shot-gunned them. fk my life.

you should support the Jets imo

in the same conference as Miami so you get 2 games against Leknave in the regular season and probs would've been the worst team in the league last year if it wasn't for having games against the even worse Dolphins.

always a surprise when we win


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Horneris on May 26, 2008, 09:07:16 PM
Who are the worst 3 teams out of all 32 teams please?

We are all choosing a team to support each, as LeKnave said for next season, and i always like the underdog and hate the big boys, so i wana support a team that no-one else does, will hardly ever win, but will feel great when we do.

ty.

Also, When does the season start plz.

edit: hes just told me Miami were the worst last year and hes alredi shot-gunned them. fk my life.

you should support the Jets imo

in the same conference as Miami so you get 2 games against Leknave in the regular season and probs would've been the worst team in the league last year if it wasn't for having games against the even worse Dolphins.

always a surprise when we win

yeah but arent they from New York. I dont wana support a team from the capital city. ty anyway.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: ChipRich on May 26, 2008, 09:15:26 PM
Shotgun Jets.

My new bedrooms going to look like this..lol.

(http://www.continentalwindowfashions.com/images/bedding/sports_coverage/new_york_jets.jpg)


Title: Re: american football
Post by: LeKnave on May 26, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
what is the scoring system for the league plz?

w - 3
d - 1
l - 0

?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Hairydude on May 26, 2008, 09:16:54 PM
Who are the worst 3 teams out of all 32 teams please?

We are all choosing a team to support each, as LeKnave said for next season, and i always like the underdog and hate the big boys, so i wana support a team that no-one else does, will hardly ever win, but will feel great when we do.

ty.

Also, When does the season start plz.

edit: hes just told me Miami were the worst last year and hes alredi shot-gunned them. fk my life.

you should support the Jets imo

in the same conference as Miami so you get 2 games against Leknave in the regular season and probs would've been the worst team in the league last year if it wasn't for having games against the even worse Dolphins.

always a surprise when we win

yeah but arent they from New York. I dont wana support a team from the capital city. ty anyway.

Em is that a piss take??


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Hairydude on May 26, 2008, 09:19:26 PM
washington??


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Longy on May 26, 2008, 09:22:47 PM
what is the scoring system for the league plz?

w - 3
d - 1
l - 0

?

No its just win against loses with 1/2 for a tie as there is like 1 draw a season because of overtime. For example our team the mighty dolphins finished with a magnificent 1-15 record last year (1 win 15 losses).


Title: Re: american football
Post by: LeKnave on May 26, 2008, 09:25:44 PM
what is the scoring system for the league plz?

w - 3
d - 1
l - 0

?

No its just win against loses with 1/2 for a tie as there is like 1 draw a season because of overtime. For example our team the mighty dolphins finished with a magnificent 1-15 record last year (1 win 15 losses).

cheers.

lets dooooooooooo this dolphins.

new room ftw:

(http://www.continentalwindowfashions.com/images/bedding/sports_coverage/miami_dolphins.jpg)


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Horneris on May 26, 2008, 09:28:19 PM
washington??

lol, level.

Gatso was supposed to fall for it imo tho.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Hairydude on May 26, 2008, 09:31:40 PM
what is the scoring system for the league plz?

w - 3
d - 1
l - 0

?

No its just win against loses with 1/2 for a tie as there is like 1 draw a season because of overtime. For example our team the mighty dolphins finished with a magnificent 1-15 record last year (1 win 15 losses).

cheers.

lets dooooooooooo this dolphins.

new room ftw:

(http://www.continentalwindowfashions.com/images/bedding/sports_coverage/miami_dolphins.jpg)

LMFAO guaranteed theres some 45 year old dude in america with his room decked out like this


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Hairydude on May 26, 2008, 09:32:16 PM
washington??

lol, level.

Gatso was supposed to fall for it imo tho.

Haha sorry mate


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 09:34:41 PM
gotta wait 'til 7th sep for week 1 unfortunately


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 09:36:47 PM
washington??

lol, level.

Gatso was supposed to fall for it imo tho.

lolz, amazed anyone fell for it.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 26, 2008, 10:02:11 PM
just checked the schedules, 1st game is Jets @ Miami, last game is Miami @ Jets. sweet


Title: Re: american football
Post by: LeKnave on May 26, 2008, 10:04:29 PM
just checked the schedules, 1st game is Jets @ Miami, last game is Miami @ Jets. sweet

lets fkin kill them. ur going down gatso.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Horneris on May 26, 2008, 10:14:42 PM
From now on and forever, I support the Oakland Raiders.

We play in the Western Division of the AFC.
We're pretty terrible and are equal outsiders for the superbowl at 125/1.

We have won the superbowl 3 times, the last time was in 1983.

We are based in California, and out kit is black. Our average attendance last season was 59,000. 31st out of 32.

We hate San Francisco coz they are near us in terms of geography (fk u Acid) and we hate NY Jets (Scum) from a rivalry that dates back to the 60s and 70s (gky Gatso).  I dont think anyone really likes us, which i think ill enjoy.

WE ARE OAKLAND!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Flea on May 26, 2008, 10:20:54 PM
Miami v Jets are always mad games I remember one back in the late 80's which was played in the snow just before Christmas and finished something like 48v45 with the winning field goal with the last kick (touch) of the game.

I was a bears fan from the start on Channel 4 (just about before The Refrigerator), was more a Walter Peyton fan superb running back but had dodgy knees and back (late on in his career was occassionally used as a wide receiver to protect his knees a bit), the Bears best defensive player was Mike Singletary (he was better than the Fridge imo).

All my friends were either 49ers or Redskin fans.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on May 26, 2008, 11:15:20 PM
Love the Raiders too, ever since I was a kid and loving the Running Back legend that was No.32 Marcus Allen.

Would love to go see them one day....one can dream!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: KingPoker on May 26, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
Bring it on!!!!!!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Acidmouse on May 26, 2008, 11:25:55 PM
Oakland is just over the Bridge from San fran, virtually next to each other.

Very much like Leeds and Bradford with Oakland in the main being a shithole of a city and working class compared to the wealth in San fran :) Went to see them a few times. I hope we fking pwn you.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: bobby1 on May 26, 2008, 11:55:44 PM
Ive been to an Oakland game and it was just about the most intimidating atmosphere I have seen at a sports game and we were on the home end too. They have a section in the stands called the black hole where the average guy dresses in black face paint and metal studs and warrior type outfits, the game we went to see was against Seattle and it took us 10 minutes of begging that we were English and not Seattle fans before they allowed us to stay.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 27, 2008, 12:02:40 AM
Oakland are tough. Tough fans

Just drafted a potential superstar in running back Darren McFadden

Sadly owned by a septuagenarian megolomanic with no football decision sense called Al Davis.

That apart, they are at rock bottom and can only improve



aside from the Dolphins, the other worst team last year was the St Louis Rams. They should be the quickest of the basement dwellers to recover.



Title: Re: american football
Post by: Horneris on May 27, 2008, 12:11:55 AM
lol, sounds like i've chosen the Millwall of America.

Oh well, lets doooo this.

Tighty, what is a septuagenarian megolomanic?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on May 27, 2008, 12:13:49 AM
a power crazed self made businessman who listens to no one, in his 70s


Title: Re: american football
Post by: KingPoker on May 27, 2008, 12:17:07 AM
a power crazed self made businessman who listens to no one, in his 70s

I want this as my epitaph!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Woody502 on May 27, 2008, 07:21:44 AM
Always had a soft spot for the Browns as well.......I love the look of the dawg pound on a match day!

Cleveland Browns are my team...but they're rubbish too. 


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Laxie on May 27, 2008, 08:57:00 AM
When I was growing up on the west side of Cleveland they were actually pretty good.  They kind of fell apart right before their move to Baltimore.  We were all delighted to get them back and I reckon Baltimore was delighted to be rid of em.   rotflmfao


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on May 28, 2008, 03:07:04 PM
after a lot of research I have finally figured out what the early Superbowl games were called.

-the games we now know as Superbowls I to IV were at the time called the AFL-NFL World Championship
-the games we now know as Superbowls III and IV were also called Superbowl at the time but with no number
-Superbowl V was the first to be numbered at the time it was played, Superbowls I to IV were then renamed retrospectively


Title: Re: american football
Post by: fergus8 on May 29, 2008, 02:37:41 AM
pittsburgh steelers loyal here!

decided they were my team when i watched them grind out a 3 nil win in the last minute playing anti football on a sodden pitch

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80492e98



Title: Re: american football
Post by: vegaslover on May 29, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
I'm a Bears fan myself.
They were very good in the 80's when it was on channel 4 but are pretty ave nowadays.
Used to play when I was younger too.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on July 16, 2008, 01:15:20 AM
Rich, have you seen this play for S. Carolina against Kentucky? abs incred.

this is what you do when you have an ex QB @ WR and an ex WR @ QB


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2008, 01:16:38 AM
Rich, have you seen this play for S. Carolina against Kentucky? abs incred.

this is what you do when you have an ex QB @ WR and an ex WR @ QB


linky pls


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on July 16, 2008, 01:19:44 AM
Rich, have you seen this play for S. Carolina against Kentucky? abs incred.

this is what you do when you have an ex QB @ WR and an ex WR @ QB


linky pls

lol, oops. that would help I suppose. here ya go

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6F0jxx7ko


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2008, 01:21:32 AM
great stuff

odd play though at that stage! stick it up yr jumper, run the clock and kick 3 points!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on July 16, 2008, 01:32:53 AM
great stuff

odd play though at that stage! stick it up yr jumper, run the clock and kick 3 points!

yep, don't think any other coach would even call for a throw there let alone that play. run it 2 yards and you've won the game, if not it only a 30 yd fg to win it

how's your knowledge of Spurrier? he seems to have gone straight from being the best paid coach in the NFL to coaching college football. any idea if that's cos he used to call crazy plays like this at the Redskins?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2008, 01:35:50 AM
Huge ego, successful college coach in Florida..went to NFL and rubbed up his players the wrong way. His style, aggressive and gambling, was also far more easily countered in the Pros where the defenses are so much better and plays have a lot less time to develop. In the play you linked to it was a good 8-10 seconds beofre the throw came...you get 4-5 seconds in the pros

Went to S Carolina where he can be big boss, with fewer pressures and still be paid $$$$$


the ex Atlanta coach Bobby Petrino, and Pete Carroll at USC are similar.....


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on July 16, 2008, 01:39:36 AM
while I remember, have you read 'playing for pizza'?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2008, 01:40:59 AM
while I remember, have you read 'playing for pizza'?


no sir

linky please


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on July 16, 2008, 01:45:17 AM
while I remember, have you read 'playing for pizza'?


no sir

linky please

cba to find a link. 'tis a Grisham novel, fact based about an NFL journeyman QB who ends up playing pro football in Italy. my copy's going in the cupboard never to be seen again but I'll bring it up to Blackpool for you if you fancy having a read


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2008, 01:46:49 AM
cheers thanks


will be much cheaper than alternative entertainment at 2am on Sunday morning!


Title: Re: american football
Post by: Matt50 on July 16, 2008, 10:02:47 AM
I have watched American Football since the mid 80's and always followed Chicago Bears as 'my' team.

IMO it is the best of the American games by far, and also one of my most profitable betting markets.

Having looked at the odds for the Superbowl this season, the value to me is Dallas Cowboys at 10/1. 
What do you think Tighty?  Who do you fancy to win it?  And where do you think the value is in the market?


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2008, 10:06:46 AM
Minnesota in the NFC

Pittsburgh in the AFC

Value bets at 33-1 each

favourite wise..the likes of the usual suspects Colts, Chargers,Patriots inthe AFC and Cowboys etc int he NFC will be there or thereabouts in the play offs


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on July 16, 2008, 10:42:33 AM
think a decent bet may be who has the most passing yards, dont think the big fav brady will win this season, so looking for a bet, manning should do well but has to have a surgery and wil be out for 6 weeks , ,not sure  how bad it will affect  his season, no cert but 5/1+ for brees may be a good bet


Title: Re: american football
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2008, 10:52:04 AM
think a decent bet may be who has the most passing yards, dont think the big fav brady will win this season, so looking for a bet, manning should do well but has to have a surgery and wil be out for 6 weeks , ,not sure  how bad it will affect  his season, no cert but 5/1+ for brees may be a good bet

Romo


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on July 16, 2008, 11:14:10 AM
yeah think you may be right. New Orleans  have  done well, not sure if they can do it again, Dallas will have a good season i think,13/2 for romo could be a great bet


Title: Re: american football
Post by: bobby1 on July 16, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
yeah think you may be right. New Orleans  have  done well, not sure if they can do it again, Dallas will have a good season i think,13/2 for romo could be a great bet

Brees could deffo be a big runner in that market Steve, Saints running game might not be up to much this year with Bush not really transforming into a bam and bang RB and getting used more in the passing game. If their D plays as badly as last years then Brees will get loads of chances to throw it around when they are chasing and they have such an array of WR there that he will have plenty of targets to aim for. One drawback could be that 3 of their 8 road games are at Denver Kansas and Chicago with two of those games being in Nov/Dec they could be playing in bad conditions for QB's.





Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on July 16, 2008, 03:13:13 PM
yeah think you may be right. New Orleans  have  done well, not sure if they can do it again, Dallas will have a good season i think,13/2 for romo could be a great bet

Brees could deffo be a big runner in that market Steve, Saints running game might not be up to much this year with Bush not really transforming into a bam and bang RB and getting used more in the passing game. If their D plays as badly as last years then Brees will get loads of chances to throw it around when they are chasing and they have such an array of WR there that he will have plenty of targets to aim for. One drawback could be that 3 of their 8 road games are at Denver Kansas and Chicago with two of those games being in Nov/Dec they could be playing in bad conditions for QB's.




yeah, bobby Breese should be up there with the leaders in passing yards at the end of the season ,only 1 bookie offering  prices for passing yards right now,i will wait to see whats on offer by rest of the bookies before i have a bet, ,the 5/1 and 13/2  for Brees and Romo looks a better bet than Brady or Manning


Title: Re: american football
Post by: the sicilian on July 19, 2008, 10:25:17 AM
Long suffering Saints fan


Title: Re: american football
Post by: smileriraq on July 21, 2008, 10:04:27 PM
Saints have now signed Shockey from the giants if they can get their defense sorted they could be a genuine contender


Title: Re: american football
Post by: the sicilian on July 22, 2008, 09:48:25 AM
As good a tight end as they come..hope he stays fit


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on July 22, 2008, 10:12:22 AM
As good a tight end as they come..hope he stays fit
yeah he is as geat player ,tough as they come, ny giants must have got fed up with him shouting his mouth off all the time


Title: Re: american football
Post by: bobby1 on July 22, 2008, 01:29:49 PM
As good a tight end as they come..hope he stays fit
yeah he is as geat player ,tough as they come, ny giants must have got fed up with him shouting his mouth off all the time

I think the Giants like Kevin Boss a lot, he is massive for a TE too. Could be one of the new stars this season now Shockey has gone.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on July 22, 2008, 04:25:04 PM
As good a tight end as they come..hope he stays fit
yeah he is as geat player ,tough as they come, ny giants must have got fed up with him shouting his mouth off all the time

I think the Giants like Kevin Boss a lot, he is massive for a TE too. Could be one of the new stars this season now Shockey has gone.
i really thought the giants would suffer during the playoffs last year when they lost Shockey,i like Shockey a lot but i dont have to play with him every week.lol.just wondering if the short pass to Shockey will shorten or add to Breeses passing yards this season,first thought is it must add,


Title: Re: american football
Post by: 77dave on July 22, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
Urlacher signs new revised extended contract with the Bears.

All we need now is to sign up our number 1 draft pick and get Hestler to extend his contract.

Anyone have any ideas where Favre will end up? I think Tampa Bay is most likely but could be Green Bay, the Vikings or the Bears as well


Not suprised the Bears didnt go after Taylor, he will be a good fix for the Redskins, that will be a tough division again this season.

NFL hype is really starting to build in the States as the teams start training camps


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on July 22, 2008, 07:48:40 PM
Urlacher signs new revised extended contract with the Bears.

All we need now is to sign up our number 1 draft pick and get Hestler to extend his contract.

Anyone have any ideas where Favre will end up? I think Tampa Bay is most likely but could be Green Bay, the Vikings or the Bears as well


Not suprised the Bears didnt go after Taylor, he will be a good fix for the Redskins, that will be a tough division again this season.

NFL hype is really starting to build in the States as the teams start training camps
i was surprised to read Favre dosent want to play and practice in warm conditions so hes not keen on Tampa ,depends if he wants big wages and to play every week,he s a bit old now so he a quick fix for whoever signs him


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on July 27, 2008, 12:11:09 PM
Brett Favre's Next Team     
Tampa Bay Buccaneers    7/4    BET     Kansas City Chiefs    50/1    BET
New York Jets    2/1    BET     Chicago Bears    50/1    BET
Green Bay Packers    9/4    BET     Miami Dolphins    50/1    BET
Carolina Panthers    11/2    BET     Detroit Lions    50/1    BET
Baltimore Ravens    7/1    BET     Atlanta Falcons    50/1    BET
Minnesota Vikings    20/1    BET     San Francisco 49ers    50/1    BET
Houston Texans    25/1    BET     Philadelphia Eagles    50/1    BET
27th of July 2008 5:00pm


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on July 27, 2008, 12:33:50 PM
would love to see favre come to the jets. mangini is yet to pick his starting QB, his comment when asked about the Favre situation was the rather vague

Quote
I'm really happy with the quarterbacks we have on our roster right now, the quarterbacks we have in camp


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on August 07, 2008, 12:27:48 PM
wiiiiii.

and favre is a jet, signed last night apparently


Title: Re: american football
Post by: steeveg on August 07, 2008, 02:02:03 PM
yes nice surprise this morning when i read he had signed, had a very little bet on him signing for the jets, but all reports where saying it would be green bay or min vikings a few days ago,


Title: Re: american football
Post by: gatso on September 09, 2008, 10:00:07 AM
wiii, the mighty jets enter the favre era with a bang. happy here


Title: Re: american football
Post by: thetank on September 09, 2008, 10:42:25 AM
The Denver Broncos looked very impressive.

They've got this rookie called Eddie Royal who looks very strong at wide reciever. He's a small lad, but incredibly nippy, twisty and turny. Great to watch.


Title: Re: american football
Post by: lazaroonie on September 09, 2008, 11:37:17 AM
Great opening win for the Titans.

Go Tennessee !!