Title: Play to hit a set??? Post by: T_Mar on August 26, 2008, 05:54:37 PM Whats the best play in this situation please? Just call and play to hit a set, or stick in a big raise to thin the field??
Doggo12: posts small blind $0.25 Nemeaneios: posts big blind $0.50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Hero [td Ts] Pinderup90: calls $0.50 Hero: raises $2 to $2.50 doe-z88: raises $2 to $4.50 ajs350: calls $4.50 Doggo12: calls $4.25 Nemeaneios: calls $4 Pinderup90: folds Hero: ??? The initial players 3bet size is bizarre, and I didn't give it any real credit, but is it a mistake to raise again here?? There is $21 in the pot and seems ashame to leave it to someone else?? Thanks Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: maldini32 on August 26, 2008, 05:58:19 PM Stack sizes would help.
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: Longy on August 26, 2008, 06:00:16 PM Stack sizes are essential here to give any form of sensible answer FYP Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: celtic on August 26, 2008, 06:16:27 PM whats the stack sizes?
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: UpTheMariners on August 26, 2008, 06:21:19 PM i think we might need the stack sizes
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on August 26, 2008, 06:23:46 PM Jam. Your stack size is perfect for this bet.
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: Longy on August 26, 2008, 06:27:39 PM Jam. Your stack size is perfect for this bet. I disagree the button is commited to calling a jam given his stack size. Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: sovietsong on August 26, 2008, 06:41:53 PM I'm not great at cash but I think the standard line here is insta pass, depending on stack sizes
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on August 26, 2008, 07:19:11 PM Bolt is dead?
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: bolt pp on August 26, 2008, 07:20:06 PM Bolt is dead? it just was not good enough was it? Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: bolt pp on August 26, 2008, 07:23:55 PM bolt is alive btw, anyone wanna meet up and test that let me know :)up
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: Karabiner on August 26, 2008, 07:34:12 PM Instashoveaments, stack sizes are for the birds.
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: T_Mar on August 27, 2008, 09:14:28 AM Cant believe everyone's making such a fuss about stack sizes lol ;)
Everyone has a full buyin ($50) give or take 2bb oither than the original limper who has $32 and myself who has $65 Ty Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: Ironside on August 27, 2008, 09:24:40 AM plenty of implied value calling to flop a 7 to 1 shot should be well rewarded
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: EvilPie on August 28, 2008, 04:28:03 PM If you're insisting on playing this the same as a pair of 2's then yes you have the right implied odds to call given that there are five players in the pot.
However, seeing as you've got a good hand why not re raise him. About half a pot raise should do nicely, say $10 more. It's all he deserves for his gay min raise he's just made. Chances are they'll all fold but hopefully you get a customer and can do your hand justice. Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: StuartHopkin on August 28, 2008, 04:58:21 PM If you're insisting on playing this the same as a pair of 2's then yes you have the right implied odds to call given that there are five players in the pot. However, seeing as you've got a good hand why not re raise him. About half a pot raise should do nicely, say $10 more. It's all he deserves for his gay min raise he's just made. Chances are they'll all fold but hopefully you get a customer and can do your hand justice. Lol, Do you think his gay min raise is weak pie? You raise he insta hoves cus he has AA. Lol We've talked about your reads before. Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: Hairydude on August 28, 2008, 10:53:25 PM At 0.25/0.50 I really dont mind the reraise(maybe about $14-$17) but depends on initial raisers game tbh- all following limpers suggest marginals to me so thinning the field is paramount! we could be looking at JJ-AA but with the level 0.25/0.50 we can put opponents on a wider range- obviously we face a decision if we get back raised but calling off means we can ONLY really win with flopped set(or 4 to a straight)- by reraising we want to take it down, but should we get called there is still a chance we take it down on flop if it is low
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: snoopy1239 on August 29, 2008, 02:21:15 AM This is a tricky one because the limpers mean you can't really 4bet and fold. Without reads, it's marginal. I think a shove and hope is best though. Raising some of the amounts advised in previous posts is a mistake imo.
Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: EvilPie on August 29, 2008, 12:58:44 PM If you're insisting on playing this the same as a pair of 2's then yes you have the right implied odds to call given that there are five players in the pot. However, seeing as you've got a good hand why not re raise him. About half a pot raise should do nicely, say $10 more. It's all he deserves for his gay min raise he's just made. Chances are they'll all fold but hopefully you get a customer and can do your hand justice. Lol, Do you think his gay min raise is weak pie? You raise he insta hoves cus he has AA. Lol We've talked about your reads before. Not weak, just gay. If he instashoves with AA it's because he's crap and doesn't get max value out of his hands. Are you suggesting that we set mine then? Are we automatically assuming that everyone who min raises is uber strong rather than just doing a little bit of cheeky pot building? If the flop comes 2 5 8 are we assuming we're behind to the gay raiser because he must have aces? We must have another chat about my reads ;D Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: StuartHopkin on August 29, 2008, 02:01:16 PM If you're insisting on playing this the same as a pair of 2's then yes you have the right implied odds to call given that there are five players in the pot. However, seeing as you've got a good hand why not re raise him. About half a pot raise should do nicely, say $10 more. It's all he deserves for his gay min raise he's just made. Chances are they'll all fold but hopefully you get a customer and can do your hand justice. Lol, Do you think his gay min raise is weak pie? You raise he insta hoves cus he has AA. Lol We've talked about your reads before. Not weak, just gay. If he instashoves with AA it's because he's crap and doesn't get max value out of his hands. Are you suggesting that we set mine then? Are we automatically assuming that everyone who min raises is uber strong rather than just doing a little bit of cheeky pot building? If the flop comes 2 5 8 are we assuming we're behind to the gay raiser because he must have aces? We must have another chat about my reads ;D Not at all! All i was suggesting is that if you think someone is week they normally have the absolute nuts! Lol, do you not no the outcome of this hand? It was a misdeal, the gay raise was because he had received 5 cards Ahrt Kh Qh Jh Th ;whistle; Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: EvilPie on August 29, 2008, 04:04:12 PM If you're insisting on playing this the same as a pair of 2's then yes you have the right implied odds to call given that there are five players in the pot. However, seeing as you've got a good hand why not re raise him. About half a pot raise should do nicely, say $10 more. It's all he deserves for his gay min raise he's just made. Chances are they'll all fold but hopefully you get a customer and can do your hand justice. Not at all! All i was suggesting is that if you think someone is week they normally have the absolute nuts! Lol, do you not no the outcome of this hand? It was a misdeal, the gay raise was because he had received 5 cards Ahrt Kh Qh Jh Th ;whistle; Lol, Do you think his gay min raise is weak pie? You raise he insta hoves cus he has AA. Lol We've talked about your reads before. Not weak, just gay. If he instashoves with AA it's because he's crap and doesn't get max value out of his hands. Are you suggesting that we set mine then? Are we automatically assuming that everyone who min raises is uber strong rather than just doing a little bit of cheeky pot building? If the flop comes 2 5 8 are we assuming we're behind to the gay raiser because he must have aces? We must have another chat about my reads ;D [ ] Stu knows how to use the quote function on Blonde Title: Re: Play to hit a set??? Post by: T_Mar on August 31, 2008, 02:49:33 PM This is a tricky one because the limpers mean you can't really 4bet and fold. Without reads, it's marginal. I think a shove and hope is best though. Raising some of the amounts advised in previous posts is a mistake imo. This seems best to me now.. I did raise but got 2 callers, not the 'gay' min raiser tho ;) flop was k23 which wasn't the best .. I managed to take the pot down open shoving which I'm not sure about either as obv getting called by a K but had roughly psb left and checking just seemed weak ? |