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                Any one seen his play on poker tube .
i dont know how to burn it ,so here goes .
once on poker tube click third page ,then click the second ep 15 down .
 then watch a bit of class.

its the one with mike the mouth on .

yeah i saw it the other day - not an impossible fold like matusow was saying but nonetheless gotta give him a lot of credit for actually making it

I have no idea where I have to go for this. So if someone knows and can link it pls do.

pokertube...its either ep 15 or 16 of the wsop

http://www.pokertube.com/Movies.aspx?movie=7485&title=WSOP_2008_Ep15_Main_Event_2_4&player=1&page=0&FreeText=wsop%202008%20ep&list=9


 ;tightend;

Its a class fold, but you not think the two guys with the sets should have been betting the flop and turn etc? Either of them must put each other on a big ace etc before the river action, or do you think they were obv tryrin to play it cagey/trappy cause they were on the Tv table?

Just my opinion

dont understand the KK checking last to act on the flop. the turn is horrible for both of them. so checking is gonna happen more often than not. great fold.

Seriously, why on earth is that guy allowed to fiddle with his chips with his feet?

i didnt think he was doing any arm rookie.

LOL, great fold tho.

Matusow's reaction and comments are class.

truly class fold. why you would show it though i have no idea, "small circle the poker world is".... (said in voice of Yoda)

kudos.

Personally i think the guys speech play gave it away, online it would be impossible to pass. I think roberto would have called if it hadnt have been on the feature table. fair play tho, he got some good air time from that hand and wasnt involved in anymore hands which were shown.

he told me he knew he had hit a big set on the flop .
must have been a reaction he made ,the 1800 bet was to see if he had .
thought it was a brilliant fold ,i dont see how you can put him on kk ,
a str8 maybe ,class fold.

dont you think it was a bit suspect the checks and then all the action on the river?

could have hit the q turn card plus  busted  flush daw  ,
any thing is posible on the street not many beating jj,aa kk 10 10 .
can you put some one on that ,checking flop,with a  possible str8 and flush draw .
if he has aa kk you would think he would bet it on the flop.
like i said brilliant fold.

im calling 100%. With your analysis of the hand baz you think its a bad fold!

Unreal fold..very very good indeed...also nice to see Mike Matusow being a gent.

Those who call what do you think oppo has?

good question of course...but even though I might know that oppo could really only either be bluffing (unlikely), holding a queen..(maybe?) holding a weaker Full house (unlikely as I understand there was a hefty pre-flop raise) or holding a much stronger hand that doesn't mean I could lay it down...If you know what I mean. In omaha I could fold this faster than a fast thing on a fast day during fast festival...in HE..I probably call as I am unable to lay my FH down.

Good pass.
The river raise clearly indicates the geezer has a boat, the chronic speech play
would confirm to Roberto it would be a bigger one than his.

Did he also tell you why he bet the river then?

betting for information imo  ;hide;

why are we talking about the pass?  what about mikes weight loss?

yeah the please dont raise me was the worst speach play since des duffy bluffed us all into thinking he bought a round of soft drinks in a grovenor casino

     yes to see where he was, he thought he was in front because the have all checked round to him on the river.
then when he was reraised he knew he was beat.
     
   

Blatant 'I know Roberto Rominelloiolio' Post if you ask me!

they dont just know each other they are gay lovers

Oh i see!

(said in voice of Yoda  Chandra ) 

A very good fold, but I have seen as good in our home game.

folding 99 to QQ on the x2Q92 board for small bet on the river.

I think thats rather more idiotic tbh mate

what you on about ?.
I know a lot of people in poker ,i have been playing long enough.
did you not watch poker tube you fool .
if you cant write any thing constructive dint reply.

                                                                THx barry.


 

For the 1 time your right here your wrong 10 times...

Sorry probably a nicer way of putting it... the fact its only a 'small' bet you need to call into presumably a decent pot makes a fold in this instance daft- your only against one higher set rather than the 2 also!!! tbh I probably go broke here raising oppo's AQ, KK AA

i think if you ask 50 pros how they play this .
without saying what the other player has got 99% will go broke.

Your right it's a great fold, i seem to remember Praz Banzi folding a similar hand (boat over boat) in one of last years GUKPT events, or was it the year before? Still both great folds.

steve do you know roberto , wow i touched him on the arm the other day lol.

I do know him, i think he might even have spoken to me once or twice...... lucky me!

lol

lol that blatant brag post really hurt......

so that'd be 49 1/2 of them then?

He folded KT on a KTT board and was shown KK

lol pedant

huh? no effing way, he cant fold flop, what was the board, must have been more danger cards for him to fold.

i dont think there was a turn card! my mate was on the table and text me it straight away

nope he did fold K 10 on a board that contained k 10 10 and 2 lower cards i believe.

 ;gobsmacked;

ffs - did you hear about the bluff on Mick Fletcher....

where to start on this whole thread, the fold was good, but from the clip the guy makes it pretty obvious he has roberto beat, obv still actually difficult to fold the hand when in that situation.

Im pretty sure the 'brag post' comment was very tounge in cheek in align with a lot of other posts on blonde about things being 'thinly veiled' etc.. just banter/joking

as karl pointed out, if roberto 'knew' the other guy had a big set on the flop why would he put more chips in on the river?

i dont believe it. was this HU to the flop.

yes, and turn was a 10

well summed up pab...it's a good fold, nuthin more nuthin less. the guy, the betting, the speech all gives his hand away, but it's a good pass all the same.

as for barry's 99% of pros goin broke....lol. not sure which ones youre on about mate (suggestions on a post card) but i don't know anyone goin broke. sure some will call thinkin they must win, some will call stubbornly wantin to show how ul they are while probs knowin the bad news, a lot will fold...but go broke? You mean re-reraise this clown all-in after all that checking, river bet raise rr, pathetic speech, big preflop raise....do me a favour!

btw i think irish denis's pass of KK preflop in one of those poxy tv crapshoots is better

Did Achillies ever get his Oscar for worst acting job ever?

Spot on PAB!

Yea ive been watching all the WSOP clips on pokertube. It was an amazing fold! But like people have said the guys comments kinda gave it all away. But we have to be in that situation ourselves to know what we truly would of done!

Is that constructive enough for you Vinni??

ok jeff you have jj on that flop do you not bet it ?.

Correct. It was in Cardiff, if I'm not mistaken.

People are always going to be blase about this fold, but when you're in front of the cameras holding a flopped set, it's probably a lot harder to fold than one would imagine and I reckon a lot of decent players would make a crying call here. Always easy in hindsight.

I was sat next to Mick Fletcher when that hand went off. In the time I've spent playing poker, there are only 3 or 4 real "jaw-dropping" hands I've ever witnessed which I still vividly remember, & that play against Fletcher by Praz was one of them. It goes in the same box as the Ivey-Jackson play in the MMC, & the Thewy/Barker hand when Thewy won his first ever Main Event, at Luton, some years back. (I Passed pocket Threes to a R & a RR at Brighton once - it's a gift I possess.)

i will openly admit I would have probably called be it a crying call. Then again I would probably have led the flop anyway and done even more chips.

the speach play by the guy was truly awful though when he said he wouldn't show then suddenly said Ok I will show. That gave away his hand but I wouldve already called by then I think.

great laydown by roberto but the play at bolton by praz v mick fletcher was probably one of the best I've seen (I was on the rail after another early exit). I was chatting to tikay when the play went off and it was so sick it was untrue. He had to have the hand the way the action went then he showed the fresh air and it certainly bothered fletch and slowed him down. He didnt seem to want to play too many pots with praz after that.

to go broke i'd have to move all in. i wouldn't move all in, no

I reported on the Bansi/Fletcher hand. I'm sure if you plow through the Bolton GUKPT 2007 updates, you'll be able to find it... if anyone has a five minutes to murder.

While he has jacks full, it is only the fourth nuts here, and given the board and the action the chances of a bluff here are virtually nil.

You would still min raise trying to rep AA/TT and make him fold his hand.

Probably this............

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=19051.15

what did fletcher have?

A-8.

He had started to bully the Table, & was Raising almost every hand, & "any Ace" was enough for him to get seriously busy.

Praz watched this for a few orbits, & just decided it was time to slow Fletcher down.

Praz put his entire Tourney on the line, in a drama-packed hand which took a very long time tto play out, as Praz was giving it serious dwellage every Street, & staring Mick down big-time.

It was suggested later that it made no sense for Praz to risk his Tourney in such a way. Maybe, maybe not, but it was a stunning hand to watch go down. Praz later said "he was trying to be Table Captain, & I'd just had enough of that".

lolz i think if you ask 50 actual pro's not mugs who travel around the circuit claiming to be pro's that about 2% of them would go broke.....

I am the most ridic calling station i know and even i pass this pretty fast.

The Banzi KT hand details please!

Got to agree with this. While I might not be good enough to fold I certainly can't see any value in shoving the lot in.

What are you beating that can possibly call and pay you off? A10, K10, J10 and that's it. Even those hands are unlikely to call your shove and what the hell are they doing there in the first place following the pre flop 600 raise?

Given the fact that there's 2 overs that could both have easily hit the pre flop raiser I can definitely see where the fold comes from.

+1...I might call (probably do actually..very likely TBH) but sure as hell don't push here...and I'm a mug so any pro (winning pro) can't possibly push here surely?

hi guys can anyone put the link up for the said above i cant find it..,.,.,
the one about roberto...,thnx

It's on page 1 half way down. Dewi posted it.

i started watching that it was all about mike the mouth????

Keep watching.

7m 10s in (I think)

it stops just after mike makes the call with kaaa v jaaa.,.,.,?/

Perhaps you're too far away?

its after that :dontask:

n1 red dogggggggggggggggg lol
is it stopping for anyone else?

Don't think so, not that I've heard anyway.

http://www.cardplayertube.com/media/454/World_Series_of_Poker_08_Ep._15_-_Part_1/

1 of these 4 episodes

http://www.cardplayertube.com/media/455/World_Series_of_Poker_08_Ep._15_-_Part_2/

http://www.cardplayertube.com/media/455/World_Series_of_Poker_08_Ep._15_-_Part_2/

thnxs all and portfolio..,,.i am destined not to see it lol.,.,dont know why???
never mind.,.,,.

Not much too it, he passed a hand that could only beat a bluff.

http://www.cardplayertube.com/media/457/World_Series_of_Poker_08_Ep._15_-_Part_4/


its in 4 or 5  then if nort1-3

http://www.cardplayertube.com/media/458/World_Series_of_Poker_08_Ep._15_-_Part_5/

robertos hand was not in either of these clips..,.,.,thnx for realy trying...

and dewi thnx for message but i got all that lol.,.,.

lets say you bet the flop ,he flat calls .
turn card check ,bet the river he reraises ,
then you can probably pass .
but what value are you getting pot wise .