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Watched this the other day not sure if people have seen it basically there's a certain amount of money to win at the end(varies every show depending on the balls,that are choosen not of the contestants) then you have to decide whether to split or share,if you both split then they split it half and half but if they both steal nobody wins anything however if one person steals and one splits then the person that stole gets all the money.What would you do if you were in that postion i will save my thoughts and see what others say

I would split because I'm a bit of a wuss like that.

I would split, they would steal and i'm such a pushover I would probably say gg and wish them well.

I don't trust you, I'm going to steal - take split & I'll give you half, take steal we both get nothing & I see you afterwards  ;nemesis;

I would imagine there is something written into the rules to stop you doing this

Some poker tournaments don't allow deals either......

I was watching it and was thinking it's so harsh to do people over by stealing after persuading them to split,but i then thought what rod's saying so i would steal and then if they we're to split I would give them half afterwards but then i just thought now what if they had the same strategy sigh fuk our lives scenario,obviously you'd get kicked off the show if you discused this with other contestants on the show

Yeah i was thinking this to when i had that idea but really no way they could stop you,you could wait a while and then give them it or what if you struck up a relationship with the other person how could they do out about that,Clearly I've spent a lot of time thinking bout golden balls ;)

Dunno if it's the same show but I remember watching one where someone did exactly what I said - and got the lot & promised on the tv to share. Not sure it was the same show though - think there's been a couple of these.

The winning method:

Lets say you get to the decision with £30,950

You propose that you both split the 30k and give the other 950 to a charity of jaspers choice,

would they steal from a charity on national telly me thinks not,

you then show the steal ball and are declared the winner

 and then you say ill give the £950 to charity..

in the event that they steal then at least neither of you wins..

It's fairly basic and there is only 1 route to go:

1. It's +ve to STEAL

2. It's -ve to SPLIT

Work it out logically and you'll see why.

well that depends if you are on the show to win the highest amount of money you can regardless of the consequences.  I would much rather take half (or nothing) but keep my integrity intact.

[  ] i would be good on goldenballs!

Would you then keep the 30k for yourself and do them out of 15k brudal sir brudal.I agree claw i couldn't be that harsh but would steal then give them half so they can;t steal and shaft me

Ok, so assuming this was allowed, would those that choose this option then honour their promise to share, or would you keep the lot?

I wouldn't promise it before hand as this may get you kicked off the show but yeah i would give them half afterwards think it just to sick to do that to someone who probably needed the money in most instances

Stealing seems optimum to me, if they don't steal you get the lot, if they do steal you're left with nothing anyway and you'll look less of a mug.

going on disposable daytime quizes already raises serious questions about ones integrity :D

there is only, and can ever be, one answer, take.

i understand what you're saying claire about integrity but i dont really know in whos eyes your integrity would still be intact, i'm sure when you got home you'd secretly be thinking: "FFS"!!!! and in the eyes of the viewing public the few people ive seen split have never really had the chance to have there integrity applauded such is the overwhelming -EV in splitting the veiwing publuc are to busy laughing at the screen!

I'd give them their share. The promise on TV could be used as evidence in a court case anyway, but I'd not rip someone off, I'd take steps to avoid a ripoff though.

damn right I'd keep it,all i have done is bluffed them off the pot

A hitman can cost less than 5K now... I'd not screw someone over for only 15.....

FYP

lol fair point.  You wouldn't catch me on a daytime quiz show  ;hide;

Maybe using the word integrity was a bit strong, but I couldn't sit in front of someone and promise them that I was going to split the money with them and then steal the lot away. The only time I would consider doing it is if I was pretty sure they were going to steal from me.  If I was proved wrong and they chose to split, I'd give them half anyway.

Not everyone is a degen like us lot though and would probably ruin there life lol

Yeah but then why not just steal everytime and then you don't have to get your judgement correct

We've had this discussion before, can't be arsed to find the thread.

On the basis it is against the rules to collude then you are left with these scenarios:

Split and get either half or nothing
Steal and get either all or nothing.

Steal!

 ;carlocitrone;

o.k, bubble of a big buy in multi, you shove on a Aspades Ks Td  Qs Jd flop and oppo has half 2/5ths of their stack commited and has say..  8h 8d, you shove with  5s 6c and oppo says: "sigh, i'm sure the board plays, you didnt play it like a fd, have you got it"?

would you feel ok about doing your best to get him to fold?

I don't think you can compare golden balls to poker - different kettle of fish in my eyes.  I would see this as more akin to agreeing with someone that we'd chop it up at the end, but then doing a runner with the first prize money.

This is totally different though bolt as poker is a game where you are risking money to win more money and it's all about gamblng

This show is mostly joe publics looking to win a couple of dimes and be the most money they ever win in there life

yeah guys i understand why on the whole it's different but used this specific hand as an example because it's a split and could easliy go......check, check, instead of one person trying to scoop the lot so although the overal poker analogy isnt that comparitivly pertinent i think maybe a hand like this lends itself more to the idea of the goldenballs concept for people that are maybe uncomfortable as claire was with taking the lot when it could felicitously be a chop(although i get thet you dont like the speech play prior to the decision)

the other thing with the poker hand is that if you take it down you don't have to show :D  And before anyone says it, no I'm not saying I would still the cash if I thought I could get away without anyone knowing!

lol, dont worry you're not gonna appear on the crimewatch hall of fame as a "goldenball taker".........

"our next case features a woman who pretends to be genuine and honest and says she's gonna split the money like most hard working Britons and not them bloody immigrants but when it came to it Claire m decided to steal the lot leaving her poor victim with nothing, if you see this woman in the street please do not approach her as she's also pretty handy with a deck oh cards, call the authorities immediately" :D

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=32002.0

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=35075.msg755463;boardseen#new

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=35076.0

sigh - I know!  it just isn't in my nature and I'd feel bad about it.  That's about the size of it, and is why I'd be rubbish on golden balls!

I would definitly have a pop at the poker hand and probably even show it if he folds

PS It's her whip you want to worry about not when she's got cards

the 2nd one was funny, everyone kept n calling liv a bitch ::)

I've not bothered rereading but iirc there's a post from swordpoker that sums everything up pretty well

Sounds a lot like the "prisoner's dilemma" from game theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

Lots of math and logic guff.

it was on this show he persuaded the other guy to split telling him he was going to steal if he split he would give him half afterwards jasper told him that the show could not gtd anything discussed at this stage, the guy who said he was going to steal actually split causing shockwaves round the studio as everyone thought he was going to steal and they got to share a small amount of dosh

well played