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just under 2 weeks away is the start of the pinnacle of national hunt racing the cheltenham festival.

whose up for a tipping competion???  cheltenham festival tuesday 10th-friday 13th march 2009

right this is how it works:

you choose one selection in each race of the festival. you then decide if you want your selection 2pts win or 1pt each way.

if you require your selection each way you must put E/W next to the horses name otherwise it will go as 2 pts win.

your selections for each of the days  racing must be posted on the appropriate thread before the start of the that days first race ( threads for each day will be up well in advance)

if your selection is  a non runner and you notice it before the start of the first race of that day then you can change it. if not your selection will become 2pts win on the favourite (in the case of join favourites the lowest racecard number will be your selection)

if by any chance you dont get your days selections on the thread before the off of the first race of the day then you will score -2pts on every race.

PLEASE NOTE ALL SELECTIONS MUST BE CHOSEN AND POSTED ON THE THREAD PRIOR TO THE OFF OF THE DAYS FIRST RACE

any post updated after the off of the first race will void all selections and the person will score -2pts for every race regardless of how his/her selections done.

scoring:

scoring will be on a basic profit/loss basis using each horses starting price , based on 2pts win or 1pt e/w on each race. the person with the best profit/loss each day and overall will be declared the winners.

for example each race you have a loser in your total will go down 2pts if you have say a 4/1 winner for your 2pts win you will be +8pts  for that race.

entry:

entry is $50 per person paid by "blonde" transfer only to me (blond alias: turny1967) if your blonde account wont allow you transfer facilitities then speak to kev who will be able to sort the transfer for you.

Entry money only accepted through "blonde". if you dont have a blonde account please use the banner to the side of this page and sign up and get one. again any issues with deposits colchesterkev will be pleased to help.

entries must be with me by midnight on monday 9th march 2009 at the latest. failure to do so will void any selection posts you may post during the competition.

Prizes:

Each day will have its own prize for the person who shows the best profit (or best loss lol)

there will also be an overall prize for the best points profit over the whole four days as well as 2nd and 3rd place prizes (overall 4 days only).

prize percentage of all entry monies are as follows: 

each day winners gets 10% of the prize pot (4 days racing so 40% total)

the winner over the whole 4 days racing will recieve 30% of the prize pool and of course the title of "blonde champion cheltenham tipster"
2nd  will recieve20% of the prize pool and 3rd 10%. (total 60%)

in the event of any ties the prize monies will be split.

if the competition looks to be close on day 4 then entrants still in the running for the 4 day title may pm me their selections and i will put them on the thread as the first race goes off. (this will help avoid deliberate copying of selections to gain an advantage though i know no blondes would ever stoop that low lol)

prize pool if as follows:
due to low entries prize money as follows

over the whole 4 days only no daily prize

1st $250
2nd $100
3rd $50




i willl be updating most days after every race and publishing a complete table after each days racing.

so come on then names of whose interested on here please and any other questions?

a list of ante post runners are as follows as of monday 2nd march

Turny
Horneris
T Mar
Scotty2Hatty
Dunk619 (subject to stars transfer)
Rookie
Colchester Kev
mondatoo

8 runners

Very interested and think it looks excellent except for the payouts.

Cant you just scrap the daily winners and do 50%, 30%, 20% for the overall. 30% not enough.

If others agree of course.

Nice one Turny!

thought about this but then thought that if people are well behind after a couple of days then they arent going to have anything to play for and probably wont submit selections  so at least with a daily prize it keeps everyone interested.
the prize money does appear well spread i agree but i think the idea of this comp is not for someone to get rich out of it but just to give the entrants some interest and some banter on the festival and to maybe make a couple of quid in the process.

obviously they are my views but happy to change or alter the payouts to what the majority prefer.

I'm interested.
Would be happy with either payout structure.

Deal me in.

I am definately in for this ...Re the prize structure its not really an issue with people not being interested if they fall behind cos they are generally only 1 winner away from being right back in it..  No one ever gets that far ahead they cant be caught ... I would vote for Horneris payout structure but its your comp and will leave it with you... I'll be in either way!

Sounds very good. One thing I'd like to bring up is the part about a non-bet being on the favourite. Imo it should just be -2pts.

In the Naps comp I think it was agreed that this would be better.

I'm in regardless. Just a thought.

do u mean if people fail to get there selections in or if they have a non runner?
think you have a point if people fail to submit there suggestions but rather unfair if their selection doesnt run.

happy to change it for people not submitting to -2pts for every race

Yeah, for people who do not have their selections in it should be -2pts, wp. Non-runner switched to favourite is fine.

I have enough trouble picking winners having a sort out during the festival, let alone sorting out a winner every race ::)

although harchibald huge E/W value IMO

I'm with you on the every race bit, I'd rather have a bank of 100 points to invest each day.

im inerested if i can get someone to ship on blonde and i pay them on stars cos im on aol and blonde wont let me on it

this just complicates matters further. by everyone having a selection every race it makes it easier for settling purposes.

not particularly in the mood for settling flags,perm patents and roundabout bets some might decide to do on the 100pt method lol

TBH I hadn't thought about that :)

I was actually meaning just singles either win or ew., but I reckon you knew that anyway.

Count me in whatever, although my money-management skillz will be hampered by having to bet like a donk.

anymore interested roughly 5 or 6 of us at the moment would like to get up in the region of 20 tomake it a nice competition

Yes pls

Right i have amended the rules regards failing to post your selections on any given day to -2pts each race rather than the favourite being your selection. you still get the favourite though if your selections becomes a non runner.
Have left the prize money breakdown as it is for now, we can discus and if need amend nearer the time after more feedback from hopefully more entries.

a list of ante post runners are as follows:

Turny
Horneris
Josedinho
Karibiner
Max Riddles
T Mar
Scotty2Hatty
Dunk619 (subject to stars transfer)
Rookie

9 so far come on guys we need more!

Im in mate

Happy with a daily payout, gives everyone a shot even if they have a couple of shit days.

nice one kev  :)up people will be flooding to join up now knowing your dead mug moneys in  ;whistle;

I'm in,will read tmoro  ;)

nice one  :)up

im in horneris is shipping on my behalf

[  ] I sure am

[  ] I didnt lose your money short stacking PLO

bump!

come on guys there must be a few more of you up for this, $50 entry for 4 days of entertainment, interest and the obvious abuse!

ok guys time to start shipping, turny1967 on blonde please $50

11 of us at the moment but hopefully get a late rush over the weekend, all entries and monies transfered no  later than monday please

just a thought Turny, but would a $30 entry attract more runners ?

maybe kev but i doubt it, nobody has commented or suggested this and tbh with the flat prize structure the payouts arent that attractive as it is and would be worse with a smaller buyin.

at the end of the day its all a bit of fun, if people dont want to enter thats fine, those thast do will have a laugh

Just sent PM to Kev for transfer...

Sorry guys, I'm going to have to give this a miss now, an unexpected household expense to the tune of £800 has left me busto for Cheltenham before a race is run. :(

no worries mate

nice one

come on guys get shipping


as there is only 10 of us what are peoples views regards distributing the prize money?

im favouring scrapping the daily winner and having just a prize for the top 3 overall, what do u guys think?

big time.

+1

ok we are down to 9 as now karabiner has pulled out due to not enough entries, obv if we all had this attitude there would be no runners in anything lol


makes u wonder why we bother organising these things tbh i now know how hard kev's job really is getting interest here lol

im still up[ for it but might be better payin top 2 if we only hav 9 happy to go along with whatever tho

transfer of $50 done from Horneris & Dunk

Transfer of $50 from T Mar done.

Thanks Kev

nice one kev cheers now ship your own and rookies to please

"scoring will be on a basic profit/loss basis using each horses starting price , based on 2pts win or 1pt e/w on each race. the person with the best profit/loss each day and overall will be declared the winners.

for example each race you have a loser in your total will go down 2pts if you have say a 4/1 winner for your 2pts win you will be +8pts  for that race"



Not menaing to confuse things, but just to clarify how the scoring going to work... if you deducting 2pts for every loser, shouldn't you get your stake back on top of any winnings... so in your example above a 4/1 winner should be +10 (including your stake back)

And if you back say a 10/1 shot ew and it comes placed, the return would be +2.5 (3.5pts minus 1pt that loses on the win portion)

Is it too late to enter?

Midnight tonight is the transfer deadline, however some payouts might have changed, need to read the thread mate

nope ship $50 to turny1967 email inthebelly.co.uk@hotmail.co.uk

you are getting your stake back because you dont get -2 for the race you win so instead being -2 if u get a 4/1 winner u get +8 a swing of 10
and 1pt ew @10/1 on a place will give u -1 for the win part then +2.5 for the place so your total would +1.5 instead -2 if it didnt place so a swing of 3.5 overall

hope that makes sense ;-)

still waiting for col kev, rooks,scotty, mondatoo and pelham to ship

need to sort a swap fro stars $$  will ship as soon as i can,   trust me, im good for it :D

master grimmer ;-)

is it ok if i [ost my choics 2nite wont be able 2 2morrow work 6-2 fml

will put up the thread now mate

ok nps, ta

It's telling me 'invalid nickname or email address'

both correct mate best just to ask kev to do it

try email
t11rnx@hotmail.co.uk

8 of us in guys on the off, scotty ignoring pms so is out


prizes for the whole 4 days

1st $250
2nd $100
3rd $50

thanks for those who are participating good luck

standings after first race


kev +14.40
turny +14.40
t mar +1.40
rookie -2
brent -2
dunk -2
mondatoo -2
pelham boy -2

n1 kev and turny 2/2 sweeeeet

standings after second race


kev +24
turny +24
t mar -.60
rookie -4
brent -4
dunk -4
mondatoo -4
pelham boy -4

mines been pulled out of the next what happens do i get the fave

yes mate non runner goes as 2 win on fav gl

cheers m8 hope wichita doesnt go off fave

  [  ]  i know what im on about what a ride by ap

MBSFN

standings after the third race



turny +30.25
kev +22
dunk +6
mondatoo +6
t mar -2.60
rookie -2.87
brent -6
pelham boy -6

so sick, was on maljimar at 33's... fcking mcoy!!!!!!!!!!!

standings after the fourth race



turny +28.25
kev +20
mondatoo +6.70
dunk +4
t mar -4.60
rookie -4.87
brent -8
pelham boy -8

fml, cant make any ground on turny as we have the same nags in the last 2 races

scratch that, he has gone EW in the next and I am on the win ... i could still make a few points back :)

standings after the fifth race



turny +29
kev +18
mondatoo +13.70
rookie +2.13
dunk +2
pelham boy -1
t mar -6.60
brent -10

Storming it turny ....


5/8 in profit ... how is horner last, if he picked the ones he backed he would be up there lol

early days yet mate  one big price winner and anyone goes top

LOL I ain't had a winner on any actually bets, yet i'm 3rd in this. sigh

standings after the sixth race and at the end of day 1



turny +33
kev +22
mondatoo +11.70
dunk +6
rookie +0.13
t mar -2.60
pelham boy -3
brent -12

Good first day ... all to play for tomorrow.


Turny is the target, I might have to post my picks at a strategic time tomorrow ;)

i had a winning day but feel sick as a dog, backed go native ap but laid half off pre and maljimar cost me dear... sigh

oh well. roll on tomorrow :)

That'll do for me

standings after the 1st race day 2

turny +31
kev +20
dunk +19.20
mondatoo +9.70
rookie -1.87
t mar -4.60
pelham boy -5
brent -14

nice move from dunk

standings after the 2nd race day 2

turny +33.50
kev +18
dunk +17.20
mondatoo +12.20
t mar -2.10
rookie -3.87
pelham boy -7
brent -16

turny, mondatoo and t mar all on that winner, moves tmar upto 5th

standings after the 3rd race day 2

turny +31.50
kev +16
dunk +15.20
mondatoo +10.20
t mar +.15
rookie -5.87
pelham boy -9
brent -18

just tmar on that

Smashing, i get a rub down after every race.

LOL

standings after the 4th race day 2

turny +32.23
kev +14
dunk +13.20
mondatoo +11.60
t mar +0.88
rookie -7.87
pelham boy -11
brent -20

a couple on that at a very short price, horneris still without a sniff of a winner

i am having a fkin mare

yes  ;D keep it up

Get a 14/1 winner and you are on it too FML.

IWWIL to be colchester kev

standings after the 5th race day 2

turny +49.73
kev +31.50
dunk +11.20
mondatoo +9.60
t mar -1.12
rookie -9.87
pelham boy -13
brent -22

standings after the 6th race day 2

turny +47.73
kev +45.25
dunk +9.20
mondatoo +7.60
t mar -3.12
rookie -11.87
pelham boy -15
brent -24

kev closes the gap

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Squeaky bum time turny .... its exciting :)

standings after the 7th race day 2

turny +45.73
kev +44.75
dunk +7.20
mondatoo +5.60
t mar -5.12
rookie -13.87
pelham boy -17
brent -26

close at the top and close for 3rd too

standings after the 1st race day 3

turny +43.73
kev +42.75
dunk +12.45
mondatoo +3.60
rookie +2.13
t mar -7.12
pelham boy -19
brent -28

moves by rookie with that winner and a good price place for dunk

standings after the 2nd race day 3

turny +41.73
kev +40.75
dunk +10.45
mondatoo +1.60
rookie +0.13
t mar -9.12
pelham boy -21
brent -30

blanks everywhere there, mines was 5th doh!

standings after the 3rd race day 3

turny +39.73
kev +38.75
dunk +8.45
mondatoo -0.40
rookie -1.87
pelham boy -9
t mar -11.12
brent -32

a winner for pelham boy takes him out the bottom 2

Horneris is off the mark .... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

standings after the 4th race day 3

turny +37.73
kev +36.75
dunk +6.45
mondatoo -2.40
rookie -3.87
pelham boy -11
t mar -13.12
brent -20


build a church brents had a winner lol

PMSL lololol,what price brent wins the lot

standings after the 5th race day 3

turny +35.73
kev +34.75
dunk +7.07
mondatoo -4.40
rookie -5.87
pelham boy -13
t mar -15.12
brent -22


only a place there for dunk the rest a blank

doont care if i win just wanna stay ahead of rooks and horner please

if the final day picks thread isnt up i will post em in here in a bit cos im off out soon and wont get chance

standings after day 3

turny +54.73
kev +32.75
dunk +11.07
mondatoo -6.40
rookie -7.87
pelham boy -15
t mar -12.12
brent -24

place for dunk and tmar and a win for turny in the last

cheers 4 doin this m8 please dont let kev win

Had a mare yesterday ... turny looks home and hosed.

GL all today !

standings after race 1 day 4

turny +52.73
kev +30.75
dunk +9.07
mondatoo -8.40
rookie -9.87
pelham boy -17
t mar -14.12
brent -26

4th doesnt count there so blanks everywhere

wow nice one Jarv !!

standings after race 2 day 4

turny +53.86
kev +32.88
pelham boy +23
dunk +7.07
mondatoo -10.40
rookie -11.87
t mar -16.12
brent -28


places for the top 2 but massive 20/1 for 2pts for pelham propels him into 3rd

standings after race 3 day 4

turny +55.66
kev +32.48
pelham boy +21
dunk +5.07
mondatoo -12.40
rookie -13.87
t mar -18.12
brent -30

standings after race 4 day 4

turny +53.66
kev +35.98
pelham boy +19
dunk +3.07
mondatoo -14.40
rookie -15.87
t mar -20.12
brent -32

just kev on the winner

standings after race 4 day 4

turny +51.66
kev +33.98
pelham boy +17
dunk +4.87
mondatoo -16.40
rookie -17.87
t mar -9.12
brent -34

tmar on the winner and a place for dunk

standings after race 5 day 4

turny +49.66
kev +31.98
pelham boy +15
dunk +2.87
mondatoo -18.40
rookie -19.87
t mar -11.12
brent -36

all blanks there

final standings


turny +47.66
kev +29.98
pelham boy +13
dunk +0.87
t mar -13.12
mondatoo -20.40
rookie -21.87
brent -38

good game guys thanks for participating

winnings

1st turny $250
2nd kev $100
3rd pelham boy $50

kev will transfer soon

thanks

Well done turny ... cheers for organising ... hopefully we get a bit more interest next time.

Congrats on the scoop.

surely must be a rule that the organiser cant win?!?! fixed obv

well done.. cheers for organising

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOI ...

... DUNK DIDNT WIN

Cheers for running this ITB nice one

   gtfo   i won what mattered the sidebets