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every time arsenal have lost a game by more than 2 goals it's started at 0-0?

no need to be nervous now eduardo's cheated you a goal

Ooohh how bitchy, I think he was simply anticipating the challenge and avoiding another broken leg.

Anyway it makes no difference the bhoys still need to score three

"The longer it stays 0-0 the more nervous Arsenal will get"

Can somebody please explain this to a poor ignorant gooner ???

obviously the referee got a bit nervous with it at 0-0 as well.

obviously Arsenal are a better side, but thats what being 300 million in debt buys you.

Are you referring to Celtic or is the whole Premier League in huge debt ?

Arsenal top the latest list of the Equifax Premier League Credit Ratings

Football players definitely are not the brightest.

Eduardo takes a dive in a tie that was almost certainly over already, and will probably pick up a ban for the group stages. At the very least his card will be marked and he might not get a more genuine claim later.

Better surely to save it for a game vs Milan, Real, Barca, etc. when it's 0-0 with 5 minutes to go.

Ooohh how bitchy, I think he was simply anticipating the challenge and avoiding another broken leg.

Anyway it makes no difference the bhoys still need to score three

Here's hoping he gets it soon though. The better team won but if there's any justice they'll get screwed by a bad decision.

Now that is downright nasty Rod, I'm surprised that you could say such a thing.

The one that seriously made me want to harm someone was the Brazilian fairy that got the ball kicked at his leg and went down holding his face ... that got me so bloody angry.

I wonder how long before these prima donnas use blood capsules in a vain attempt to not look so pathetic ?

I'm sure there was one south american keeper who hid a razor blade on his glove to use for this too, actually that may have been something to do with a firework being thrown, ignore me...

if he was reluctant to make contact with a hulking great goalkeeper twice his size bearing down on him, who can blame him.

I'm sorry to say this and I really am not trying to inflame the situation but this has been taken to ridiculous proportions and is sounding more and more like a severe case of sour grapes from not just the bhoys but the media in general.

Okay it was a dubious penalty but we see several of these every week and apart from boldie nobody sees it as a hanging offence.

The guy(Eduardo) has just come back after an appalling injury kept him out for eighteen months at the peak of his powers and if he was reluctant to make contact with a hulking great goalkeeper twice his size bearing down on him, who can blame him.

We won 5-1 on aggregate completely outplaying the opposition who incidentally tried quite hard imo to outphysicalize us(kick us off the pitch) in the first leg which was perceived as our Achilles heel and nobody is even mentioning that.

Build a bridge guys, get over it and stop getting wound up by the media would be my advice.

Lol @ Celtic fans complaining about diving, for years they have celebrated McGeady, Nakamura, Sutton and Petrov to name but a few serial divers.

I'm sorry to say this and I really am not trying to inflame the situation but this has been taken to ridiculous proportions and is sounding more and more like a severe case of sour grapes from not just the bhoys but the media in general.

Okay it was a dubious penalty but we see several of these every week and apart from boldie nobody sees it as a hanging offence.

The guy(Eduardo) has just come back after an appalling injury kept him out for eighteen months at the peak of his powers and if he was reluctant to make contact with a hulking great goalkeeper twice his size bearing down on him, who can blame him.

We won 5-1 on aggregate completely outplaying the opposition who incidentally tried quite hard imo to outphysicalize us(kick us off the pitch) in the first leg which was perceived as our Achilles heel and nobody is even mentioning that.

Build a bridge guys, get over it and stop getting wound up by the media would be my advice.

The word bollocks springs to mind. If you're happy with cheats just admit to the character flaw - yo'd get more respect.

Nowhere can I recollect anyone saying Arsenal weren't the better team, or even that there any case for Celtic going through. It's just an absolute disgust with a cheat who has enough skill he didn't need to do it.

Diving or "simulation" is a yellow card offense. What's the justification for calling for a ban?  O

Every team has a player that has done this - Celtic fans might recall Chris Sutton spending most of his time falling over in the box - yet only Arsenal it seems to me are subject to such exaggerated levels of criticism.  There is no way you can stop diving, it's become an instinctive reaction for too many players who get breathed on in the penalty area.  Unless you just want to do away with penalties altogether so there's nothing to win and just have free-kicks instead where defenses can put up a wall just like any other free-kick. 

UEFA rules state that a player caught simulating or diving can / will be banned for 2 games.

I know but what's the justification for that when during it the game it's a yellow card?  Would UEFA ban a guy for two games if the referee hadn't seen him take his shirt off while celebrating a goal?

Andy Gray talking yesterday said it's hard for UEFA to give out bans for diving as you can give a free kick for intent. Contact doesn't have to be made. If you leap out of a challenge that would be a foul to protect yourself it can still be given as a foul.
I think this was a dive but i think it gives divers an excuse to turn around and say i was getting out the way.

Getting out of the way would be over or round.

Sandy

I'm sorry to say this and I really am not trying to inflame the situation but this has been taken to ridiculous proportions and is sounding more and more like a severe case of sour grapes from not just the bhoys but the media in general.

Okay it was a dubious penalty but we see several of these every week and apart from boldie nobody sees it as a hanging offence.

The guy(Eduardo) has just come back after an appalling injury kept him out for eighteen months at the peak of his powers and if he was reluctant to make contact with a hulking great goalkeeper twice his size bearing down on him, who can blame him.

We won 5-1 on aggregate completely outplaying the opposition who incidentally tried quite hard imo to outphysicalize us(kick us off the pitch) in the first leg which was perceived as our Achilles heel and nobody is even mentioning that.

Build a bridge guys, get over it and stop getting wound up by the media would be my advice.

Charged with 'deceiving the referee', good...

Charged with 'deceiving the referee', good...

So tell me, do you think that the Celtic fans who were shining lasers at Eduardo's eyes when he took the penalty should also be charged ?

So tell me, do you think that the Celtic fans who were shining lasers at Eduardo's eyes when he took the penalty should also be charged ?

Most epl watchers will be amazed because he says he has seen it !!

Even though Eduardo dived i think Wenger has a point in that the reaction is inconsistent he just doesn't make it very well.

Sandy

Definitely this, as long as they're consistent in punishing all offenders.

Quite ridiculous ... If the ref sees it as a pen, he has to give it ... if it turns out that he is later found to be wrong then players get a 2 match ban ... so what when someone dives in the box and appeals for a pen but the ref says play on ?  does that player get a 2 math ban as well ? or only if the ref gives it ?

Total bollocks imo ... ref's make mistakes week in and week out ... you cannot suddenly prosecute 1 player for this without first announcing it pre season and having a fixed rule.

Quite ridiculous ... If the ref sees it as a pen, he has to give it ... if it turns out that he is later found to be wrong then players get a 2 match ban ... so what when someone dives in the box and appeals for a pen but the ref says play on ?  does that player get a 2 math ban as well ? or only if the ref gives it ?

Total bollocks imo ... ref's make mistakes week in and week out ... you cannot suddenly prosecute 1 player for this without first announcing it pre season and having a fixed rule.

I agree with Kev and Wenger here.

Yes it has to start somewhere but wtf. Start with a known repeat offender like Drogba or Ronaldo.

Unfortunately someone of the stature of Ronaldo will never get punished by Uefa. They simply dont have the balls.

If this was my player and the first time he'd taken a dive in his career I'd back him all day long. Total bollox from Uefa.

And a few others on this thread ;)

Wenger: We must use video evidence to stop cheats

Published Date: 04 January 2005
ARSENE WENGER today called for video technology to be trialled in England as he insisted replays must be introduced to help referees cut out cheating and injustice.
Wenger has joined Sir Alex Ferguson, who recently came out in favour of replays in certain circumstances, in claiming football must use any available technology.

However, he insisted officials also need to see the potential benefits of a ‘video referee’ sitting in the stands to review any contentious decisions on monitors.

Recent penalty decisions, including Mike Riley’s failure to award Liverpool a spot-kick against Chelsea at the weekend, have sparked the Arsenal manager’s call. Wenger said: "You cannot accept it when justice is not being done. Whether it is for Arsenal or against Arsenal, I don’t mind, because I love football first.

"I cannot accept that Diego Maradona scores a goal then makes a stupid statement that it is the ’Hand of God’, while the rest of the world see it is handball.

"That is stupid. If you love football, you can never accept that. That is cheating - a word I have already used - but it is real cheating.

"You cannot say in 2005 with 600 million people watching a game, that the only man who can’t see what is happening is the referee.

"That is not football, that is injustice. When you have the tools to help people, you should use them."

It WAS a dive it WAS wrong. Part of me actually wanted him to miss the penalty as it had little if any effect on the tie that is why I find it even more strange that he went down. I think he was on his way down because he thought that the keeper would touch him so it wouldnt look like a dive.

I still think banning him for 2 games is a bit harsh because not everyone that dives is going to get banned. If a player dives in the centre circle to win a free kick nothing would be said, he wouldve decieved the ref, which is the charge against Eduardo.

Every team has had players that have dived at some point it only when it goes against your team that you really feel pissed off about diving.

Ive been offline for a few days and this is the 1st time ive read this thread and im guessing that some posts have been edited and maybe even som removed. If what ive read is right on page 1 of this thread Rod seems to say that he hopes Eduardo suffers a serious injury again and to be honest Rod thats just way out of order if that isnt what you said then i apologise for the misread

That's exactly what he said Dan, and I'm not expecting an apology anytime soon.

Perhaps Rod should reread his guidelines for posting on here.

Just to clarify. No posts on this thread have been removed, or edited, by moderators

I would urge all participants to, where necessary, cool it particularly with regard to posts that might be seen to goad other members about their opinions on a subject over which people feel strongly

I'll leave it to everyone to self moderate on that please.

No Almunia was booked. No further punishment required.

yellow card to be recinded and 2 game ban for rooney pls.

i'm so frustrated with all this i'm posting the same stuff on two threads!  off to post on camels thread now...

LOL

lolllllllllllll mcgayday sent off for diving, couldnt make it up

lol ffs u watchin this dave yous have a fuckin cheek complaining about diving!

as far as im aware he didn't dive, i was only going with what every one of the commentators were saying.....The 4th officail even said he didn't have a clue why McGeady was sent off!

If found guilty, it should be a 2 game ban as per the rules of course

Craig Burley asked "is Aiden McGeady a cheat?" and responds with a resounding "yes!"

Haha, Celtic are really showing themselves up to be the hypocritical farces they are here.  1 player sent off for diving, 1 player gets off scot free for diving and Mowbray wont even watch the replay and is trying to justify it.  Embarassing