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Title: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 04, 2009, 02:24:08 PM http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48727
Quote Rage Against The Machine are to make a bid to beat this year's winner of 'The X Factor' to the UK's Christmas Number One single position. A Facebook group asking people to buy the band's 'Killing In The Name' has at the time of writing attracted over 45,000 members. The group states that fans should buy the song from December 13 – the same day that this year's X Factor winner's song becomes available. Twitter users are also showing their support for the petition by retweeting the following message: "Rage Against The Machine For Xmas No.1 #ratm4xmas See here for details http://bit.ly/inthename please RT". Although it hasn't been confirmed yet, the winner of 'The X Factor' 2009 is reportedly set to release a cover of Miley Cyrus' 'The Climb' as their Christmas single. A similar petition for Jeff Buckley's 'Hallelujah' was launched last year in reaction to 'The X Factor' winner Alexandra Burke releasing her version of the song for Christmas. Although Burke still topped the UK singles charts with the song, Buckley's rendition of the Leonard Cohen classic reached the Number Two position. This year's Christmas Number One single will be announced on December 20. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Claw75 on December 04, 2009, 02:39:31 PM Olly Murs for xmas no 1 imo
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: gatso on December 04, 2009, 02:46:36 PM surely doomed to fail as a) no-one over the age of 12 buys singles and b) anyone who likes killing in the name of already has it
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 04, 2009, 02:49:34 PM surely doomed to fail as a) no-one over the age of 12 buys singles and b) anyone who likes killing in the name of already has it For 99p via download? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 04, 2009, 02:50:53 PM LOL at an internet campaign to persuade people to buy a song which has the refrain "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me"
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: gatso on December 04, 2009, 02:51:34 PM why does it matter how much it costs if everyone who wants it already has it?
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 04, 2009, 02:53:52 PM Because for 99p you get to have the feeling that you helped beat the xfactor
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 04, 2009, 02:55:04 PM LOL at an internet campaign to persuade people to buy a song which has the refrain "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" Isn't that the point? Or was I reading too much into it? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: George2Loose on December 04, 2009, 02:59:26 PM No point. X factor will be Xmas number one as long as the show stays successful.
Read somewhere that this could be the last year bookies takes bets on the Xmas number 1. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Claw75 on December 04, 2009, 03:01:15 PM xmas number 1, and the singles charts in general, don't mean anything these days anyway. I miss the top of the pops era.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 04, 2009, 03:11:24 PM xmas number 1, and the singles charts in general, don't mean anything these days anyway. I miss the top of the pops era. Remember when the number one was only announced on Radio 1 on a Tuesday at about lunch-time? Used to be an event, and I remember me and my brothers trying to predict the top 3... Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: marcin123 on December 04, 2009, 04:59:58 PM No point. X factor will be Xmas number one as long as the show stays successful. Read somewhere that this could be the last year bookies takes bets on the Xmas number 1. yup i saw this on the news... one bookie has already stopped taking bets on it... *sigh* every year I have had a nice bet on the outcome... Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Claw75 on December 04, 2009, 06:02:00 PM xmas number 1, and the singles charts in general, don't mean anything these days anyway. I miss the top of the pops era. Remember when the number one was only announced on Radio 1 on a Tuesday at about lunch-time? Used to be an event, and I remember me and my brothers trying to predict the top 3... yeah and I had one of those crappy little tape recorders (that I used to use to play games on my BBC model B). Would stick the mic right up to the portable radio to tape the charts every week trying, but always failing, to edit out as much of the DJ's voice as possible. Those kidz these days don't know how easy they have it :tikay: Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Sack it off on December 04, 2009, 07:23:53 PM I will be doing this, however they should have picked a song that appeals to more people
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: The Baron on December 04, 2009, 07:33:29 PM Lol quality.
The original Jeff Buckley Hallelujah went close last year so if done right this will work imo. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Claw75 on December 04, 2009, 08:20:23 PM This year's ex-factor song is a pretty cracking tune too - they'd do better to try and campaign for the original to run against it probs.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: The Baron on December 04, 2009, 08:22:00 PM This year's ex-factor song is a pretty cracking tune too - they'd do better to try and campaign for the original to run against it probs. What is it? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Claw75 on December 04, 2009, 08:27:56 PM This year's ex-factor song is a pretty cracking tune too - they'd do better to try and campaign for the original to run against it probs. What is it? according to what i heard on the radio the other day it's this beauty YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNB1EUJg1-w Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: The Baron on December 04, 2009, 08:29:35 PM This year's ex-factor song is a pretty cracking tune too - they'd do better to try and campaign for the original to run against it probs. What is it? according to what i heard on the radio the other day it's this beauty YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNB1EUJg1-w Ah ok good good. Just read on NME that it was a Miley Cyrus cover - then had to Wikipedia her to find out she's probably going to annoy me more than any xfactor winner ever could. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Claw75 on December 04, 2009, 08:34:10 PM hmm just did a quick google and looks like you might be right about the Miley Cyrus thing - what I heard was just a rumour
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 04, 2009, 08:36:13 PM It is Miley Cyrus - which is such a fail.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Claw75 on December 04, 2009, 08:39:20 PM Miley song will be useless for Olly. Probs suit the other 3.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 04, 2009, 08:40:41 PM The Apples Version of Killin' is way better.
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fyVu02mDtM Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 04, 2009, 09:53:28 PM I will be doing this, however they should have picked a song that appeals to more people Yer. It is pretty good. I will be a renegade on this one. RATM obv one of the best bands of all time. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vk0wTbzyLg YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4smim2MNvF8 Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: mondatoo on December 05, 2009, 01:21:17 AM Christmas no1 is meaningless,so bad its untrue
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: scotty2hatty on December 05, 2009, 02:43:27 AM The original Jeff Buckley Hallelujah went close last year so if done right this will work imo. if by close you mean lost out by about 100k sales then yeah pretty close Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: scotty2hatty on December 05, 2009, 02:44:49 AM Cowell said the other day that he hadn't decided on the song yet.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: suzanne on December 05, 2009, 04:36:59 AM If its Mileys "The Climb" then Stacey will shine..I still think Danyl will win tho
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG2zyeVRcbs I would be all for buying a song to knock that smug barsteward off his perch but I dont think the Rage Against The Machine is going to do it. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: The Baron on December 05, 2009, 10:29:52 AM The original Jeff Buckley Hallelujah went close last year so if done right this will work imo. if by close you mean lost out by about 100k sales then yeah pretty close Considering it was pretty impromptu getting to number 2 was ok imo. Title: Rage Against The Machine for Xmas No 1. Post by: StuartHopkin on December 08, 2009, 04:20:50 PM Cant see it happening but it would be amazing...
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2228594104&ref=search&sid=647410480.2295640310..1&v=info#/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=2228594104 If not then the x-factor song best be journey, best song ever....... just a small town girl..... living in a lonely world! YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqBQEXXF9g Title: Re: Rage Against The Machine for Xmas No 1. Post by: Claw75 on December 08, 2009, 04:25:01 PM http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=45724.0
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 08, 2009, 04:30:03 PM Mergeraterised.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 08, 2009, 04:31:44 PM My bad, would be amazing though.
Anyone know what the number of sales were for last years xmas number 1? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 14, 2009, 01:14:42 PM http://bit.ly/rage-amazon
29p on Amazon!! Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 14, 2009, 01:37:28 PM http://bit.ly/rage-amazon 29p on Amazon!! Number 1 download most places today. If everyone in the facebook group actually downloads it, it should win by about 200k copies. Obv unlikely but then a fair few are buying 3 copies. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 14, 2009, 01:57:52 PM I've done my bit.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 14, 2009, 02:07:19 PM http://bit.ly/rage-amazon 29p on Amazon!! Has to be Minimum 40p to count towards Number 1 status http://www.theofficialcharts.com/docs/Official%20UK%20Singles%20Chart%20Rules%20August%202009.pdf Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 14, 2009, 02:20:52 PM http://bit.ly/rage-amazon 29p on Amazon!! Has to be Minimum 40p to count towards Number 1 status http://www.theofficialcharts.com/docs/Official%20UK%20Singles%20Chart%20Rules%20August%202009.pdf That's what they said originally, but apparently it does count now. :dontask: Just found this: "The Official Singles Chart Rules do not specify a minimum retail selling price for the sale of a single to be eligible for inclusion in the Official Singles Chart, however they do specify a minimum published dealer price. This does not affect the ability of a retailer to carry out price promotions and any genuine consumer purchases made as a result of a retailer promotion will be eligible as long as the single meets all other applicable chart rules. In plain English - RAGTM & Joe Downloads from Amazon.uk DO count. " Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: rex008 on December 14, 2009, 02:28:15 PM Simon Cowell brands campaign "cynical"
http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48821 "Simon Cowell" and "cynical" in the same sentence. Whodathunkit? :) What's your source for the Amazon track, Dan? If it'll count, I'll download it, otherwise I'll gladly pay the 40p elsewhere. Anything to stick one in Cowell's eye. Not that it will, of course, he'll still be multai whatever. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 14, 2009, 02:32:57 PM My source is the internetz, so it must be true.
A number of people involved in the 'campaign' have contacted the chart people apparently to clarify the situation. But spend 49p if you're feeling balla. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: gatso on December 14, 2009, 02:39:38 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 14, 2009, 02:40:54 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: rex008 on December 14, 2009, 03:12:59 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Cowell will probably bully the chart people into accepting Amazon sales of 29p for the-X-factor-finalist-who-could-actually-sing, but not the RATM one. I can just picture Cowell in his office, in the style of the Armstrong & Miller character: "Kill them". Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 14, 2009, 03:15:00 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Cowell will probably bully the chart people into accepting Amazon sales of 29p for the-X-factor-finalist-who-could-actually-sing, but not the RATM one. I can just picture Cowell in his office, in the style of the Armstrong & Miller character: "Kill them". I dont think Cowell will be overly bothered as RATM are on BMG which is part of Sony. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 14, 2009, 05:08:29 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Cowell will probably bully the chart people into accepting Amazon sales of 29p for the-X-factor-finalist-who-could-actually-sing, but not the RATM one. I can just picture Cowell in his office, in the style of the Armstrong & Miller character: "Kill them". I dont think Cowell will be overly bothered as RATM are on BMG which is part of Sony. It's all good publicity at the end of the day for all concerned. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thetank on December 14, 2009, 05:09:27 PM It's all good publicity at the end of the day for all concerned. Some morning and afternoon publicity too by the looks of it. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 14, 2009, 05:11:00 PM Some morning and afternoon publicity too by the looks of it. Yes, and even some early evening publicity if they're lucky. I guess that construct is what we call a cliché. ;) Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thetank on December 14, 2009, 05:20:11 PM Just expected better from you :'(
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48HUdzoKiPA Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Steelio on December 15, 2009, 11:31:43 AM http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8413557.stm
Its winning atm but CD sales should take X Factor to no.1, ive done my bit buying RATM Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: dousche on December 15, 2009, 01:33:38 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Cowell will probably bully the chart people into accepting Amazon sales of 29p for the-X-factor-finalist-who-could-actually-sing, but not the RATM one. I can just picture Cowell in his office, in the style of the Armstrong & Miller character: "Kill them". I dont think Cowell will be overly bothered as RATM are on BMG which is part of Sony. does this not make the whole campaign an epic fail? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 15, 2009, 01:42:03 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Cowell will probably bully the chart people into accepting Amazon sales of 29p for the-X-factor-finalist-who-could-actually-sing, but not the RATM one. I can just picture Cowell in his office, in the style of the Armstrong & Miller character: "Kill them". I dont think Cowell will be overly bothered as RATM are on BMG which is part of Sony. does this not make the whole campaign an epic fail? Not really, its not a personal attack on him and its not like money means anthing to him. To be honest I dont really know what their trying to 'achieve' I just think it would be a hilarious Xmas number one. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: rex008 on December 15, 2009, 02:18:24 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Cowell will probably bully the chart people into accepting Amazon sales of 29p for the-X-factor-finalist-who-could-actually-sing, but not the RATM one. I can just picture Cowell in his office, in the style of the Armstrong & Miller character: "Kill them". I dont think Cowell will be overly bothered as RATM are on BMG which is part of Sony. does this not make the whole campaign an epic fail? Not really, its not a personal attack on him and its not like money means anthing to him. To be honest I dont really know what their trying to 'achieve' I just think it would be a hilarious Xmas number one. this. I've donated my 29p to Amazon. And might even do so again, if I thought it would help. Although they probably filter out multiple purchases from the same person for the chart tally? Problem is, I had it on repeat for about 30 mins yesterday afternoon. I now can't get the guitar riffs from the start out my head. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 15, 2009, 02:22:53 PM Buy it from different sites then it'll count multiple times.
That said, I don't see why multiple purchases from one person shouldn't count. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 15, 2009, 02:33:41 PM for comedy value please let it outsell xfactor and then have them disallow all the cheapo purchases and make it no. 2 A lot of the x-factor purchases are via amazon as well - so it's likely to affect both records' sales. Cowell will probably bully the chart people into accepting Amazon sales of 29p for the-X-factor-finalist-who-could-actually-sing, but not the RATM one. I can just picture Cowell in his office, in the style of the Armstrong & Miller character: "Kill them". I dont think Cowell will be overly bothered as RATM are on BMG which is part of Sony. does this not make the whole campaign an epic fail? Not really, its not a personal attack on him and its not like money means anthing to him. To be honest I dont really know what their trying to 'achieve' I just think it would be a hilarious Xmas number one. this. I've donated my 29p to Amazon. And might even do so again, if I thought it would help. Although they probably filter out multiple purchases from the same person for the chart tally? Problem is, I had it on repeat for about 30 mins yesterday afternoon. I now can't get the guitar riffs from the start out my head. You buy an album, love it, but play it to death and can hardly listen to it any more. This never happened to me with that album, listened to it so many times, it never grew old. Must have bought a dozen copies, was always giving it away to friends who loved it. Most tracks are as good as or better than this one. A classic forever. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Chompy on December 16, 2009, 10:30:32 AM Wiiiii, looks like RATM might get the number one too. Pleasing news. A great, timeless track.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: bolt pp on December 16, 2009, 11:24:30 AM best price 7/4 now
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 16, 2009, 11:44:40 AM Think they're about 75k ahead in sales. Xfactor drivel gets released as a physical copy today though so should be close..
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 16, 2009, 01:14:19 PM best price 7/4 now Price for a Joe/RATM duet? I would pay good money to go see that little cherub chanting '**** you I won't do what you tell me!' while Louis Walsh sobs uncontrollably in the background. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Steelio on December 16, 2009, 03:50:20 PM Rage 4/5
X Factor Evens Never thought id see that Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 16, 2009, 05:48:47 PM Think they're about 75k ahead in sales. Xfactor drivel gets released as a physical copy today though so should be close.. Won't be close - the RATM thing has peaked and X-Factor CD only went in the shops today. X-Factor will win by a distance. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Dubai on December 16, 2009, 06:02:59 PM Rage 4/5 X Factor Evens Never thought id see that I will take evens X factor for any amount, if any wants to bet. Quote to confirm before midnight tonight Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Steelio on December 16, 2009, 06:15:11 PM Rage 4/5 X Factor Evens Never thought id see that I will take evens X factor for any amount, if any wants to bet. Quote to confirm before midnight tonight The prices are now: X Factor 1/2 Rage 9/4 Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 16, 2009, 07:58:32 PM Bucket of LOLs
NSFW Subo wins! :D YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AYUqVNSsY Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: ViiperUK on December 16, 2009, 08:07:50 PM Bucket of LOLs NSFW Subo wins! :D YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AYUqVNSsY haha subo's is a belter! :D Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 17, 2009, 09:58:33 AM On Radio 5 Live this morning they had RATM on and decided it would be a good idea to get them to perform Killing in the Name Of live. I think they kind of assumed that RATM wouldn't sing the rude words, it being 9am and everything.
They were wrong. It took about 4 'Fuck you's before they pulled the plug. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: bolt pp on December 17, 2009, 10:11:33 AM they said there was a distribution problem with the CD's this morning.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Rod Paradise on December 17, 2009, 10:18:39 AM On Radio 5 Live this morning they had RATM on and decided it would be a good idea to get them to perform Killing in the Name Of live. I think they kind of assumed that RATM wouldn't sing the rude words, it being 9am and everything. They were wrong. It took about 4 'Fuck you's before they pulled the plug. ;D - like there wasn't a whacking great clue in the song that that was going to happen. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 17, 2009, 10:40:20 AM CAUTION: Explicit Lyrics. Nanny discretion advised
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6QBiqktDx0 We asked them not to do it and they did it anyway... Good interview Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: rossfourfive on December 17, 2009, 11:51:59 AM Comedy.
Love how they avoided swearing in the build up bit so they could get maximum effect. Gogogogo for xmas no.1 RATM. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 17, 2009, 01:59:01 PM So epic. Best thing to do as well as that'll get loads of publicity.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 17, 2009, 03:00:50 PM I've nothing better to do today so I sent a complaint into the BBC complaining about this programme:
Radio 5 recently had an excellent live session with Rage Against the Machine. The interview was good, as was the performance of Killing in the Name. However, this excellent session was spoiled by the presenter suggesting that everyone "go and buy joes record instead". This comment is completely unacceptable from a broadcaster who is supposed to be unbiased and impartial. As such I think it only fair that Radio 5 play KITN again (censored if neccesary) and then suggest that everyone go and buy it. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 17, 2009, 04:35:16 PM I've nothing better to do today so I sent a complaint into the BBC complaining about this programme: Radio 5 recently had an excellent live session with Rage Against the Machine. The interview was good, as was the performance of Killing in the Name. However, this excellent session was spoiled by the presenter suggesting that everyone "go and buy joes record instead". This comment is completely unacceptable from a broadcaster who is supposed to be unbiased and impartial. As such I think it only fair that Radio 5 play KITN again (censored if neccesary) and then suggest that everyone go and buy it. Lol Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Acidmouse on December 17, 2009, 04:36:14 PM I hate them both :( but this is making the grannies go out and buy more Joe cd's! no no noooo.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Ironside on December 17, 2009, 11:58:28 PM cant beleive this cowell is making three times the money he would if there wasnt a rival to joe for no1
he is laughing all the way to the bank Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: mondatoo on December 18, 2009, 05:30:33 PM How good does simon cowell run ,nice life
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Josedinho on December 18, 2009, 11:21:35 PM I think the whole campaign is a bit sad. I'd like more competition for Christmas number 1 but i'd like it to be done by more artists releasing songs that week and promoting them before Christmas. People going out of their way to buy a song that most either already had or never really wanted just seems silly.
Will anybody really be that bothered if Joe is number 1 on Sunday? I know my life will go on. The public sure do pick their battles well. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 19, 2009, 09:28:37 AM I think the whole campaign is a bit sad. I'd like more competition for Christmas number 1 but i'd like it to be done by more artists releasing songs that week and promoting them before Christmas. People going out of their way to buy a song that most either already had or never really wanted just seems silly. Will anybody really be that bothered if Joe is number 1 on Sunday? I know my life will go on. The public sure do pick their battles well. 1/ This could lead to artists challenging for No. 1 in future once they know X factor can be beaten 2/ Why the hell would you not have wanted this song in the first place, ive seen RATM 3 times now, they are one of the greatest bands ever! 3/ I will be gutted if RATM don't get No. 1, Ive bought the song 5 times this week! Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 19, 2009, 09:48:01 AM ...and it's a bit of fun.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 19, 2009, 05:01:47 PM Lol at thinking Cowell will notice the extra money this has got him
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: gatso on December 19, 2009, 06:57:21 PM how does cowell benefit from this, I'm confused. he's employed by sony isn't he? he earns what sony pay him and what sico make but not from what sony make is my (probably wrong) understanding
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 19, 2009, 08:11:01 PM how does cowell benefit from this, I'm confused. he's employed by sony isn't he? he earns what sony pay him and what sico make but not from what sony make is my (probably wrong) understanding Sales of RATM KITN are not sales lost by Joe Heterosexual. The 'war' between the singles ultimately leads to an increase in sales of both songs due to publicity beyond what they would normally get. I imagine. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: gatso on December 19, 2009, 08:21:08 PM how does cowell benefit from this, I'm confused. he's employed by sony isn't he? he earns what sony pay him and what sico make but not from what sony make is my (probably wrong) understanding Sales of RATM KITN are not sales lost by Joe Heterosexual. The 'war' between the singles ultimately leads to an increase in sales of both songs due to publicity beyond what they would normally get. I imagine. you reckon? people aren't buying the xfactor song in order to get it to number 1, I'd have thought the sales would be pretty much the same with or without ratm being involved Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 19, 2009, 08:34:13 PM how does cowell benefit from this, I'm confused. he's employed by sony isn't he? he earns what sony pay him and what sico make but not from what sony make is my (probably wrong) understanding Sales of RATM KITN are not sales lost by Joe Heterosexual. The 'war' between the singles ultimately leads to an increase in sales of both songs due to publicity beyond what they would normally get. I imagine. you reckon? people aren't buying the xfactor song in order to get it to number 1, I'd have thought the sales would be pretty much the same with or without ratm being involved Well the fight between the songs caused big publicity in the UK, but what prospective buyers would notice it here who didn't already know of it through XFactor (final had 13M viewers). RATM obv big Stateside, maybe it will bring publicity for Joe there, probably got some decent coverage that it would otherwise miss. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: gatso on December 19, 2009, 08:37:11 PM so it might get a few more sales but I'm pretty sure that's not the point people are making
they're saying that cowell wins as ratm are on sony, how does that benefit him? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: bobby1 on December 20, 2009, 01:01:20 AM How strange.
It's a very good campaign and good to see that people do care that the same old shite happens every year....but, It is a stange choice of song to go to war with. Basically thousands of people have been told to buy a record to campaign against being force fed X Factor rubbish every year with the chorus of F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! So basically they are fighting against conforming by doing what they are being told to do? I don't get it Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 20, 2009, 01:15:50 AM Been out in the pub tonight with my mate who works for the company who collate the charts.
The latest figures say X-Factor is ahead by just 300. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thetank on December 20, 2009, 02:56:50 AM 300 thousand units?
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Steelio on December 20, 2009, 09:54:38 AM Looks like Rage have done it!
Currents odds on Betfair Any Other Artist: 1.14 X Factor 6 Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Josedinho on December 20, 2009, 10:16:15 AM I think the whole campaign is a bit sad. I'd like more competition for Christmas number 1 but i'd like it to be done by more artists releasing songs that week and promoting them before Christmas. People going out of their way to buy a song that most either already had or never really wanted just seems silly. Will anybody really be that bothered if Joe is number 1 on Sunday? I know my life will go on. The public sure do pick their battles well. 1/ This could lead to artists challenging for No. 1 in future once they know X factor can be beaten 2/ Why the hell would you not have wanted this song in the first place, ive seen RATM 3 times now, they are one of the greatest bands ever! 3/ I will be gutted if RATM don't get No. 1, Ive bought the song 5 times this week! 2/ Because it's rubbish. Music is subjective so i accept you think they are the greatest but this won't be everyone's opinion. I think some people will have bought it to get it to number 1 not because they liked it. 3/ I hope for your sake RATM have done it then. Have a Merry Christmas. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 11:01:23 AM I think the whole campaign is a bit sad. I'd like more competition for Christmas number 1 but i'd like it to be done by more artists releasing songs that week and promoting them before Christmas. People going out of their way to buy a song that most either already had or never really wanted just seems silly. Will anybody really be that bothered if Joe is number 1 on Sunday? I know my life will go on. The public sure do pick their battles well. 1/ This could lead to artists challenging for No. 1 in future once they know X factor can be beaten 2/ Why the hell would you not have wanted this song in the first place, ive seen RATM 3 times now, they are one of the greatest bands ever! 3/ I will be gutted if RATM don't get No. 1, Ive bought the song 5 times this week! 2/ Because it's rubbish. Music is subjective so i accept you think they are the greatest but this won't be everyone's opinion. I think some people will have bought it to get it to number 1 not because they liked it. 3/ I hope for your sake RATM have done it then. Have a Merry Christmas. lol thanks for taking the time to reply, i know they ain't everyones cup of tea, and thats perfectly cool. The fact that i love them so much, and never dreamed they would ever have a UK No. 1 makes this Campaign great for me. Mon the Rage! Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 20, 2009, 11:40:35 AM 300 thousand units? No, XFactor was ahead by just 300 at the end of Friday. Seeing as the price on RATM collapsed at 9.20 this morning, I'd imagine the final figures from yesterday have put RATM ahead. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: sledge13 on December 20, 2009, 11:42:09 AM Ha great! rubbish karaoke show gtfo! how can a song with 20 million viewers fail, um, cause its abs talentless rubbish....CORRECT!
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thediceman on December 20, 2009, 11:55:04 AM Ceefax pg 509
McElderry's single, The Climb, is now just 9,000 sales behind Rage Against the Machine's Killing in the Name. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 11:56:29 AM Ceefax pg 509 McElderry's single, The Climb, is now just 9,000 sales behind Rage Against the Machine's Killing in the Name. the show starts ar 4pm today, but what time does the record sales close for this weeks chart? is it 4pm too, or before that? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 12:19:24 PM Ceefax pg 509 McElderry's single, The Climb, is now just 9,000 sales behind Rage Against the Machine's Killing in the Name. the show starts ar 4pm today, but what time does the record sales close for this weeks chart? is it 4pm too, or before that? accordding to Wiki, the chart runs from Sunday to Saturday, so it closed yesterday (i presume Midnight) meaning who ever is winning this morning on ceefax has won. yet Joe's price keeps shortening like made now: Joe - 3.6 Rage - 1.25 Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 20, 2009, 12:20:37 PM Ceefax pg 509 McElderry's single, The Climb, is now just 9,000 sales behind Rage Against the Machine's Killing in the Name. the show starts ar 4pm today, but what time does the record sales close for this weeks chart? is it 4pm too, or before that? The final chart is produced at 1.30pm, though I don't think Sunday data is included. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 12:22:19 PM Ceefax pg 509 McElderry's single, The Climb, is now just 9,000 sales behind Rage Against the Machine's Killing in the Name. the show starts ar 4pm today, but what time does the record sales close for this weeks chart? is it 4pm too, or before that? The final chart is produced at 1.30pm, though I don't think Sunday data is included. it isn't i posted above just before you did mate Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 20, 2009, 12:52:06 PM How strange. It's a very good campaign and good to see that people do care that the same old shite happens every year....but, It is a stange choice of song to go to war with. Basically thousands of people have been told to buy a record to campaign against being force fed X Factor rubbish every year with the chorus of F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! F you, I won't do what you tell me! So basically they are fighting against conforming by doing what they are being told to do? I don't get it “When you live in a capitalistic society, the currency of the dissemination of information goes through capitalistic channels. Would Noam Chomsky object to his works being sold at Barnes & Noble? No, because that's where people buy their books. We're not interested in preaching to just the converted. It's great to play abandoned squats run by anarchists, but it's also great to be able to reach people with a revolutionary message, people from Granada Hills to Stuttgart." Tom Morello, RATM Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: rossfourfive on December 20, 2009, 12:54:03 PM Apparently Joe is in the radio 1 studio for the chart show today. Going to be hilarious when they tell him he's number 2.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 20, 2009, 01:04:14 PM Apparently Joe is in the radio 1 studio for the chart show today. Going to be hilarious when they tell him he's number 2. He'll know the result before he goes in and Cowell will have prepped him on what to say if RATM win. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: The Baron on December 20, 2009, 01:27:32 PM Would be so much awesomenessabilities if RATM won.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 01:46:39 PM Apparently Joe is in the radio 1 studio for the chart show today. Going to be hilarious when they tell him he's number 2. Insta Bok It will be just our luck that joe scoops it Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 02:10:06 PM Fresh Odds now after the chart was accumulated @ 1:30pm
Joe - 1.9 Rage - 1.71 Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 20, 2009, 03:21:39 PM We're now at RATM - 1.03 and X-Factor 19 so that's seems game over.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 04:02:59 PM What Channel on sky can you listen to it?
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 20, 2009, 04:07:31 PM What Channel on sky can you listen to it? Radio 1? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 20, 2009, 04:11:39 PM What Channel on sky can you listen to it? Radio 1? I know what station, i meant what sky channel is that on. I found it, its sky channel 0101 everyone tune in from 6:30pm a take it. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 20, 2009, 06:48:35 PM GTFO Gaga
Any minute... One time!!!!! Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 20, 2009, 06:54:46 PM ouch
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Christo! on December 20, 2009, 06:55:04 PM Boom!
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: ViiperUK on December 20, 2009, 06:56:11 PM weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hahahahaha
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: G1BTW on December 20, 2009, 06:56:40 PM Pretty sugary ballad, if anything needed knocking over it was that kinda thing.
Joe probably won't make it in any kind of decent way outside this song, imho. Backing vocals for RATM FTW, would be a big hit. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: ViiperUK on December 20, 2009, 06:59:27 PM People of Britain >>>> Simon Cowell
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: The Baron on December 20, 2009, 07:06:15 PM RATM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bosh! Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 20, 2009, 11:27:03 PM bink
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thetank on December 21, 2009, 12:53:36 AM Emancipation
Women's suffrage Collapse of Berlin Wall End of Apartheid RATM Christmas #1 It's always darkest just before the dawn. Now the Sun has risen and it smells good. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Royal Flush on December 21, 2009, 01:31:36 AM Rage 4/5 X Factor Evens Never thought id see that I will take evens X factor for any amount, if any wants to bet. Quote to confirm before midnight tonight A true oracle of the betting world Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 01:53:42 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are.
This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 21, 2009, 01:59:17 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 02:12:02 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Joe's crap and Cowell knows it. He had to set something like this up in order to drum up some hype for the lad. Unfortunately it went wrong because Cowell probably wanted Joe to win in order to give his career at least a thread of a chance. As it stands Cowell has now found out how much the public really like Joe so he knows not to spend too much more money marketing him. Not that his initial facebook campaign cost him more than 10 minutes of his time anyway. True genius at work. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Acidmouse on December 21, 2009, 02:25:53 PM It reallly doubt its devasting news for Cowell. They sold more due to this and it makes no difference in the bigger picture if he got number one or not. He has made MORE money from this false battle so who wins now?
Really all the knobs that bought into this are the losers. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 21, 2009, 02:28:17 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Joe's crap and Cowell knows it. He had to set something like this up in order to drum up some hype for the lad. Unfortunately it went wrong because Cowell probably wanted Joe to win in order to give his career at least a thread of a chance. As it stands Cowell has now found out how much the public really like Joe so he knows not to spend too much more money marketing him. Not that his initial facebook campaign cost him more than 10 minutes of his time anyway. True genius at work. [ ] Nice read Matt [ ] Cowell has the Royal Flush I dont think Cowell really gives a shit, but if he planned it Ill give you 500 euros You wont see penny one from me you slag Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 21, 2009, 02:30:44 PM Sony and Syco were actually livid about the RATM thing but not because it happened, but because they didn't react quickly enough. If they wanted to, they could have pulled the RATM song out of iTunes, which would have killed the thing stone dead.
However, they were initially happy about it, because they thought it wouldn't challenge Joe for number 1, but would earn them a nice few bob. It took off so quickly though that by the time they realised it might win, it was too late to withdraw the song without sparking a huge public backlash against them, so they had to let it play out. As it happens, I think Cowell does regard all this year's X-Factor crowd as a weak bunch and Joe will fade quite quickly. Alexandra Burke's album has sold badly and quickly slipped down the charts even though she is a much better singer than Joe. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 02:32:09 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Great piece of drivel there mate. How the hell is a 5th or 6th or whatever x-factor number one going to change Cowell's stature one bit? He's achieved everything there is to achieve in the music industry and I would guess he does this purely because he enjoys it. If it was stature and recognition he was after he would be off ballooning with Branson. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 21, 2009, 02:33:45 PM Something I didn't know until yesterday is that the couple who started the thing on Facebook tried the exact same thing with Rick Astley last year.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 21, 2009, 02:34:19 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Great piece of drivel there mate. How the hell is a 5th or 6th or whatever x-factor number one going to change Cowell's stature one bit? He's achieved everything there is to achieve in the music industry and I would guess he does this purely because he enjoys it. If it was stature and recognition he was after he would be off ballooning with Branson. Its continued control though isnt it, thats what he enjoys, i discovered this, i discovered that, they would be nothing without me. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 02:38:50 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Great piece of drivel there mate. How the hell is a 5th or 6th or whatever x-factor number one going to change Cowell's stature one bit? He's achieved everything there is to achieve in the music industry and I would guess he does this purely because he enjoys it. If it was stature and recognition he was after he would be off ballooning with Branson. Its continued control though isnt it, thats what he enjoys, i discovered this, i discovered that, they would be nothing without me. But control of what? Control of the singers or control of the music buying public? He knows he has control of the singers because there's contracts in place. I guess that only leaves the public. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 02:40:08 PM Something I didn't know until yesterday is that FYP Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on December 21, 2009, 02:42:39 PM I couldn't care less about Simon Cowell.
I bought it cos I thought it would be comedy to see all the outcry, and because I thought it'd be epic to get RATM a christmas #1. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 21, 2009, 02:46:20 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Great piece of drivel there mate. How the hell is a 5th or 6th or whatever x-factor number one going to change Cowell's stature one bit? He's achieved everything there is to achieve in the music industry and I would guess he does this purely because he enjoys it. If it was stature and recognition he was after he would be off ballooning with Branson. Its continued control though isnt it, thats what he enjoys, i discovered this, i discovered that, they would be nothing without me. But control of what? Control of the singers or control of the music buying public? He knows he has control of the singers because there's contracts in place. I guess that only leaves the public. Control of the charts, the music industry, the publics opinions and who succeeds and who doesnt. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 21, 2009, 02:49:56 PM I couldn't care less about Simon Cowell. I bought it cos I thought it would be comedy to see all the outcry, and because I thought it'd be epic to get RATM a christmas #1. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I like Simon Cowell and if he did start it Id like him even more, but I honestly think your wrong. The point is that RATM is an amazing track that and having it as Xmas number is just pure jokes and no one thought it would actually get there. Youve missed the point for most of us, in the words of one of Evilpies esteemed ex-employees its all about 'Catching Joke' nothing more Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 21, 2009, 02:50:43 PM I think the Evilpie account on here is actually Simon Cowell who registered it purely to spread the word about what a great genius he is.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 02:57:13 PM Ok I've had my fun for the day.
RATM is a quality song, just a shame that the radio edit lasts about 45 seconds. Joe whatever his name is song is absolute tosh but a lot of people buy in to it because of the x factor thing. Can't fault that. If you like it buy it. Simon Cowell is undoubtedly a business genius. You don't get where he is without being clever and capable of a bit of exploitation. I obviously don't think that Cowell started this but when AndrewT mentioned the Rick Astley thing it does add to the slight possibility. It would be amazing if it turned out he'd choreographed the whole thing. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: rex008 on December 21, 2009, 03:01:00 PM I think the Evilpie account on here is actually Simon Cowell who registered it purely to spread the word about what a great genius he is. Next time someone sees Matt, ask him how much Cowell is paying him to say he's Evilpie. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: AndrewT on December 21, 2009, 03:10:07 PM Look at this photo Tighty took at DTD yesterday - try denying it now 'Evilpie'.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: pokefast on December 21, 2009, 03:12:14 PM I didn't buy it as its the most god awful din i've ever heard.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: kinboshi on December 21, 2009, 03:15:39 PM I didn't buy it as its the most god awful din i've ever heard. Yeah, I much prefer RATM. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 21, 2009, 03:19:09 PM I didn't buy it as its the most god awful din i've ever heard. Yeah, I much prefer RATM. +1 The Miley Cirus Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 03:25:48 PM Look at this photo Tighty took at DTD yesterday - try denying it now 'Evilpie'. I think it's a bit of a concern that there's 7 blokes there looking at Cos playing poker rather than staring straight at the hot little massage bird behind him. Please tell me there's a pervert behind the Cowell pic....... Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: rex008 on December 21, 2009, 03:43:25 PM Look at this photo Tighty took at DTD yesterday - try denying it now 'Evilpie'. I also want to know why the clown is wearing huge dangly earrings with photos of chefs on them. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 21, 2009, 04:32:52 PM Look at this photo Tighty took at DTD yesterday - try denying it now 'Evilpie'. I also want to know why the clown is wearing huge dangly earrings with photos of chefs on them. Lolaments Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Scottish Dave on December 21, 2009, 04:38:44 PM I couldn't care less about Simon Cowell. I bought it cos I thought it would be comedy to see all the outcry, and because I thought it'd be epic to get RATM a christmas #1. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I like Simon Cowell and if he did start it Id like him even more, but I honestly think your wrong. The point is that RATM is an amazing track that and having it as Xmas number is just pure jokes and no one thought it would actually get there. Youve missed the point for most of us, in the words of one of Evilpies esteemed ex-employees its all about 'Catching Joke' nothing more This, This and only This I couldn't care about if Simon made money or not, or weather joe gets a career or not, it wasn't about simon, Joe, xfactor for me. It was always about RATM for me, ill be honest, if it was a different song that i hated, id have wanted Joe and Simon to have won it, but cos it was RATM it was all about them. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: bobby1 on December 21, 2009, 04:55:03 PM What a bunch of idiots the British public are. This has clearly been set up by the genius that is Simon Cowell in order to boost the sales of 2 songs that he pwns large %'s of the rights to. F you I won't do what you tell me......... Unless you somehow manage to tell me really subtley so I don't notice and think I'm actually being smarter than you for once in my worthless sad life Mr Cowell sir......... yeah cos simon set up the face book campaign, don't talk piss, he was desperate for Joe to win. He is his latest hot talent, and needs to try spin a star out of him, Joe not winning that No. 1 is a huge blow to joe and simon. Simon craves stature more than money these days Great piece of drivel there mate. How the hell is a 5th or 6th or whatever x-factor number one going to change Cowell's stature one bit? He's achieved everything there is to achieve in the music industry and I would guess he does this purely because he enjoys it. If it was stature and recognition he was after he would be off ballooning with Branson. Its continued control though isnt it, thats what he enjoys, i discovered this, i discovered that, they would be nothing without me. This is the part of the argument I don't understand tho Stuart. The song chosen is all about not conforming but all the people that have backed the campaign have done exactly what they were told to do and bought it, you see the irony there?. I am happy for the RATM fans like Dave who get a number one from knowhere but I just can't see this song as making the point it was intended to make. If it had been that alltime classic'There no one quite like grandma' or some other ridic Chrstmas record of yesteryear then it would have been funny and proven the point much better than a record that actually contradicted the message. Or maybe I am just missing the point. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on December 21, 2009, 05:03:34 PM Oh mad japes on this thread.
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thediceman on December 21, 2009, 05:13:11 PM This is the part of the argument I don't understand tho Stuart. The song chosen is all about not conforming but all the people that have backed the campaign have done exactly what they were told to do and bought it, you see the irony there?. I am happy for the RATM fans like Dave who get a number one from knowhere but I just can't see this song as making the point it was intended to make. If it had been that alltime classic'There no one quite like grandma' or some other ridic Chrstmas record of yesteryear then it would have been funny and proven the point much better than a record that actually contradicted the message. Or maybe I am just missing the point. People haven't conformed by supporting the RATG campaign. It was an option provided largely as an anti protest against Simon Cowell and Xfactor. People had the free will to support the campaign or not. Alternatively they could do nothing, as many did. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: bobby1 on December 21, 2009, 05:35:34 PM This is the part of the argument I don't understand tho Stuart. The song chosen is all about not conforming but all the people that have backed the campaign have done exactly what they were told to do and bought it, you see the irony there?. I am happy for the RATM fans like Dave who get a number one from knowhere but I just can't see this song as making the point it was intended to make. If it had been that alltime classic'There no one quite like grandma' or some other ridic Chrstmas record of yesteryear then it would have been funny and proven the point much better than a record that actually contradicted the message. Or maybe I am just missing the point. People haven't conformed by supporting the RATG campaign. It was an option provided largely as an anti protest against Simon Cowell and Xfactor. People had the free will to support the campaign or not. Alternatively they could do nothing, as many did. hi mate, The X factor record is an option provided to beat all the other acts tho isnt it and people have the free will to buy that too. I think it is a really impressive performance to win the Christmas number one the way this one has been won and I do like that, It's just the record it has been done with kinda devalues the acheivement a little as it is contradictory in my eyes. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 05:42:01 PM Oh mad japes on this thread. Good word mate. Where'd you pick it up? Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: bolt pp on December 21, 2009, 05:46:05 PM Oh mad japes on this thread. Good word mate. Where'd you pick it up? Is this one...................... (http://www.alexanderkharlamov.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/mr_miyagi.jpg) Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on December 21, 2009, 05:46:06 PM Oh mad japes on this thread. Good word mate. Where'd you pick it up? Are you japing me? Obv I picked it up from that japer bopkin! Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on December 21, 2009, 05:46:44 PM Oh mad japes on this thread. Good word mate. Where'd you pick it up? Is this one...................... (http://www.alexanderkharlamov.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/mr_miyagi.jpg) lol japEs Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: EvilPie on December 21, 2009, 05:46:54 PM Oh mad japes on this thread. Good word mate. Where'd you pick it up? Are you japing me? Obv I picked it up from that japer bopkin! ;) Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: StuartHopkin on December 21, 2009, 06:13:49 PM Ha ha! Rookles is japing all over the forum!
Guffaws!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thediceman on December 25, 2009, 03:12:00 PM My Christmas is so much better having just listened to RATM on ToTP rather than having to listen to yet another xfactor puppet doing some naff cover version.
Hears hoping that for another campaign in 2010 to stop the corporate whore, Simon Cowell and his 4 month marketing machine producing next years number one. ;pokergods; Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: thetank on December 30, 2009, 01:38:47 PM I think next year you'll get about 80 campaigns all diluing each other and Simon Cowell will reign supreme again.
There is hope though, if Big Brother can get cancelled due to poor ratings then maybe the pap that is the X-factor can get eventually tae fuck as well. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: George2Loose on December 30, 2009, 01:41:15 PM Rumour has it that the x factor will be released the week before Xmas number 1 week instead
Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: bolt pp on December 30, 2009, 01:46:41 PM yeah obv it wont work again
i did like all the debate about sticking it to sony, simon cowell, x factor etc and whether or not it would work and genuinely hurt them but nobody mentioned the reason i wanted it too succeed, to ruin the Christmas of that backward Geordie reprobate that sung it. Title: Re: Rage against the X-factor Post by: Cf on January 02, 2010, 03:50:55 PM http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/response/2009/12/091221_res_5live_mcelderry_ratm.shtml
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