Title: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 01:02:42 PM Me and a friend were playing pool (American) in a bar the other day and he beat me 3 straight games; for each one the loser had to do a forefeit.
I ran bad in these games and him the opposite and it sparked us bantering about who was better at pool. We had to leave but agreed to play a Best of 19 match for £2k (i.e both put up £1k). We've both sent the money to a mutual friend so that no-one can back out and if they do the other gets the money. We're going to sort out a date for the match and it's likely to be in about 2 weeks time. At the moment I'm a slight dog to him by my reckoning. His potting is better than mine but tactically I'm better and I'm better positionally too. However, we really really really wanna beat each other, (money semi irrelevant) and I wanna give myself as much of a chance. I'm going to be practising but does anyone have any advice? I think I'm looking for someone to give me some lessons too. Price of lessons doesn't bother me but I'm going to want to do a fair bit of practice over the coming few weeks. Live in London too if thats of use in terms of teacher/location. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: TheChipPrince on September 30, 2010, 01:13:09 PM 9-Ball pool you mean by 'American'?
Win the lag and run 10 frames straight?! Potting is pretty irrelevant if so, all about control, play lots on the table you'll be playing on to get the speed. One tip I was given by a decent 9-ball player when I came from a snooker background, he said always hit the centre of a 9-ball pocket, people will think potting is 'easy' and take it without full concentration, because the pockets are so wide, you can create angles, ie, you can get the white ball to many places, but if concentrate at always hitting the middle of the bag, your positioning will benefit. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: The Camel on September 30, 2010, 01:19:33 PM Is the guy you are playing a regular gambler?
I used to play golf with a guy who didn't bet at all, and he was much better than me.. If I needled him into playing a fiver a hole or whatever, I always won, he couldn't take the pressure of playing for money. Keep reminding him about the bet, saying what you are going to spend the grand on etc etc Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2010, 01:36:16 PM I hope you're better at pool than blackjack.
Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: EvilPie on September 30, 2010, 01:54:08 PM Need to know if it's 9 ball mate.
First thing is to buy your own stick. More advice is possible once we know what game you're actually playing. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: gatso on September 30, 2010, 01:57:26 PM if it's 8 ball then make sure you're always reds
if it's 9 ball then this Win the lag and run 10 frames straight?! Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Karabiner on September 30, 2010, 02:03:45 PM Always try and leave yourself a decent angle on the object ball for position and try and keep the white ball close to the middle of the table. As the other guy said it's a control game.
Assuming it's 9-ball remember that three consecutive scratches loses the game. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 02:07:28 PM I hope you're better at pool than blackjack. I hope I'm better at pool than you are at inventing new lines Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 02:07:50 PM SORRY - It's 8-ball!
Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 02:08:40 PM Is the guy you are playing a regular gambler? I used to play golf with a guy who didn't bet at all, and he was much better than me.. If I needled him into playing a fiver a hole or whatever, I always won, he couldn't take the pressure of playing for money. Keep reminding him about the bet, saying what you are going to spend the grand on etc etc He used to gamble a lot so won't be weak at the knees but £1k certainly means a lot more to him than me so I expect him to feel more pressure. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: doogan on September 30, 2010, 02:10:07 PM use a thicker tipped cue to break off, gives the extra power that is a much needed thing in american, then revert to a slightly thinner tipped cue for potting. You need to work on plants to truely get a edge in 9 ball
Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: DaveShoelace on September 30, 2010, 02:12:21 PM I agree with Camel, put him off, Tiger Woods apparantly gets in his opponents heads by giving them advice before they take a shot, reckon that might mess with his head
Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: DaveShoelace on September 30, 2010, 02:13:31 PM Also, do this:
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7u1SGsT51w best ever scene from Fresh Prince of Bel Air Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 02:14:34 PM use a thicker tipped cue to break off, gives the extra power that is a much needed thing in american, then revert to a slightly thinner tipped cue for potting. You need to work on plants to truely get a edge in 9 ball IT'S 8-BALL! Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: TheChipPrince on September 30, 2010, 02:17:01 PM SORRY - It's 8-ball! As 8-ball has about a million different set of rules, get clued up on them, lots of tactial pool play revolves around getting 2 shots and using them in the best way, ie do they carry etc, get up to Rookies for some practice?! Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: doogan on September 30, 2010, 02:17:30 PM yeah saw that aftyer i posted but couldnt be bothered to change, only thing i can suggest is to try and practice as much as possible on the actual table you are going to be playing on, get used to the rolls and the cushions, oh and tryand get them to clean it just before he comes in will speed up the table and may throw him off for a few games
Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Karabiner on September 30, 2010, 02:48:59 PM So you're playing English 8-ball on an American table?
Are they American sized balls which are much bigger than English pool balls? If yes then you will need a thicker cue-tip, and I would imagine you should be playing American 8-ball rules which ought to be ball in hand as opposed to two shots for scratches. If on the other hand you are playing with English pool balls on an American pool table I haven't got a clue. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: paulhouk03 on September 30, 2010, 02:54:51 PM rent a really hot girl to try and put him off when he is taking shots
get him drunk Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 03:08:41 PM So you're playing English 8-ball on an American table? Are they American sized balls which are much bigger than English pool balls? If yes then you will need a thicker cue-tip, and I would imagine you should be playing American 8-ball rules which ought to be ball in hand as opposed to two shots for scratches. If on the other hand you are playing with English pool balls on an American pool table I haven't got a clue. Yep English 8-ball on American sized table with American balls and yep ball in hand. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: sofa----king on September 30, 2010, 03:15:55 PM Obviously spots n stripes?
Larger ball than Uk if so use American pool cue a decent one to rhino or carriage are good makes around £50-60 always leave your chalk on the table it drives some people mad first few frames snooker him to death right from the get go even if u lose a couple of frames snookering him every shot will drive him up the wall also rake fooling ages everyshot that's the worst Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: DaveShoelace on September 30, 2010, 03:44:47 PM My Dads business is renting, refurbishing and selling pool tables. They have a pool table in their office which they play every day, we have had a pool table in our house whenever they have too much stock and I spent most of my summers as a child hanging around his workplace.
Yet I am wank at pool. Its not fair. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: sweet potata! on September 30, 2010, 03:58:24 PM My Dads business is renting, refurbishing and selling pool tables. They have a pool table in their office which they play every day, we have had a pool table in our house whenever they have too much stock and I spent most of my summers as a child hanging around his workplace. Yet I am wank at pool. Its not fair. Sign of a well spent youth Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: pleno1 on September 30, 2010, 04:37:17 PM Know naff all about Pool (although I am surprisingly good!) but GL!
Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Gamblor21 on September 30, 2010, 04:39:33 PM I used to play alot and be ok at the game, so I can meet up for a game before you play if you want?
I'd echo buying a decent cue, but you'd be looking at £200+ for anything worth having for American pool. Depends on your standard as to whether it would make a big difference. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 04:42:51 PM I used to play alot and be ok at the game, so I can meet up for a game before you play if you want? I'd echo buying a decent cue, but you'd be looking at £200+ for anything worth having for American pool. Depends on your standard as to whether it would make a big difference. Sounds good, u live in London or at DTD this weekend? Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: EvilPie on September 30, 2010, 04:50:29 PM Use more stun and follow through type shots rather than screw back.
The cue ball is the same size and weight with Yanky balls so these shots are much easier to execute. With English balls the screw shot is much easier because the white's tiny and bounces off the object ball. Don't know about Greek balls. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 05:20:34 PM Use more stun and follow through type shots rather than screw back. The cue ball is the same size and weight with Yanky balls so these shots are much easier to execute. With English balls the screw shot is much easier because the white's tiny and bounces off the object ball. Don't know about Greek balls. Greek balls are just ridic hairy mate, makes them almost not worth playing with. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: ACE2M on September 30, 2010, 05:27:57 PM I used to be very good pool.
If its standard old rules (you can roll up behind a ball without hitting a cush) then snookering will be your key to certain victory. If you are both petty gash then just pot balls as often as you can between now and then - Rack em up, smash them, then pot them all. Games between poor players usually come down to the last couple of balls so make sure you can pot them when it comes to it. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on September 30, 2010, 05:34:24 PM I used to be very good pool. If its standard old rules (you can roll up behind a ball without hitting a cush) then snookering will be your key to certain victory. If you are both petty gash then just pot balls as often as you can between now and then - Rack em up, smash them, then pot them all. Games between poor players usually come down to the last couple of balls so make sure you can pot them when it comes to it. Ta Ace2, did u used to play 9ball or 8ball? Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: ACE2M on September 30, 2010, 05:36:21 PM I used to be very good pool. If its standard old rules (you can roll up behind a ball without hitting a cush) then snookering will be your key to certain victory. If you are both petty gash then just pot balls as often as you can between now and then - Rack em up, smash them, then pot them all. Games between poor players usually come down to the last couple of balls so make sure you can pot them when it comes to it. Ta Ace2, did u used to play 9ball or 8ball? All games but mostly 8 ball. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: sofa----king on September 30, 2010, 06:02:59 PM I didn't like to brag too much but I think I would play anyone for any ammount
I had a proper slate pub style table from when I was 8-9 years old then when I bought my own gaff I had a pool room at the end of the garden then I moved to Cyprus and I had one out the garden But um not one to brag Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: paulhouk03 on September 30, 2010, 06:05:57 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend?
Best of 3 knockout? Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Karabiner on September 30, 2010, 06:24:11 PM I used to be very good pool. If its standard old rules (you can roll up behind a ball without hitting a cush) then snookering will be your key to certain victory. If you are both petty gash then just pot balls as often as you can between now and then - Rack em up, smash them, then pot them all. Games between poor players usually come down to the last couple of balls so make sure you can pot them when it comes to it. If they're playing "ball in hand" it sounds like it's US rules which mean that you must hit a rail with either the cue ball or object ball after contact which eliminates roll-up snookers. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Karabiner on September 30, 2010, 06:26:15 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? I'm in if it's 9-ball, English pool is a bird's game*. * I am a big fan of women's 9-ball. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: StuartHopkin on September 30, 2010, 07:03:47 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? I'm in if it's 9-ball, English pool is a bird's game*. * I am a big fan of women's 9-ball. I would never normally say this to you Ralph, but....... GTFO English 8 ball >>>>>>>> Anything that involves Ostrich eggs Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: StuartHopkin on September 30, 2010, 07:04:19 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? In depending on time and location Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Alverton on September 30, 2010, 07:30:03 PM Also, do this: YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7u1SGsT51w best ever scene from Fresh Prince of Bel Air Love this. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: vegaslover on September 30, 2010, 08:41:54 PM I used to be very good pool. If its standard old rules (you can roll up behind a ball without hitting a cush) then snookering will be your key to certain victory. If you are both petty gash then just pot balls as often as you can between now and then - Rack em up, smash them, then pot them all. Games between poor players usually come down to the last couple of balls so make sure you can pot them when it comes to it. If they're playing "ball in hand" it sounds like it's US rules which mean that you must hit a rail with either the cue ball or object ball after contact which eliminates roll-up snookers. Ralph In certain English 8 ball rules you have to pot or hit cushion too. Cos Find out what actual rules you are playing, could well be American bar 8 ball rules if using an American table/balls. The weight of the balls (all being equal) will make a big difference if the skill shot is going to be used for example. Have a look on the net for articles/videos about deflection Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: ACE2M on September 30, 2010, 08:46:30 PM I didn't like to brag too much but I think I would play anyone for any ammount I had a proper slate pub style table from when I was 8-9 years old then when I bought my own gaff I had a pool room at the end of the garden then I moved to Cyprus and I had one out the garden But um not one to brag i'll take you up on this Sofa, next Blonde bash or something, i'll need to practice a bit not played for a few years. What kind of table you been playing on? American or english style? Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Matt.NFFC. on September 30, 2010, 09:59:43 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? In depending on time and location I'll have some of this! Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: celtic on October 01, 2010, 03:57:15 AM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? In depending on time and location I'll have some of this! Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: pokerfan on October 01, 2010, 07:25:07 AM Best of 3 would take an age, have it 1 frame till the final then play 3.
Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: StuartHopkin on October 01, 2010, 08:57:01 AM Use more stun and follow through type shots rather than screw back. The cue ball is the same size and weight with Yanky balls so these shots are much easier to execute. With English balls the screw shot is much easier because the white's tiny and bounces off the object ball. Don't know about Greek balls. Greek balls are just ridic hairy mate, makes them almost not worth playing with. Shear them Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: sofa----king on October 01, 2010, 09:41:04 AM I didn't like to brag too much but I think I would play anyone for any ammount I had a proper slate pub style table from when I was 8-9 years old then when I bought my own gaff I had a pool room at the end of the garden then I moved to Cyprus and I had one out the garden But um not one to brag i'll take you up on this Sofa, next Blonde bash or something, i'll need to practice a bit not played for a few years. What kind of table you been playing on? American or english style? English table but I played a bit of yanky style no prob I haven't played for a while but I feel like playing now lol gonna take my boy tonight if his cold clears up yanky 9 ball Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Leatherman on October 01, 2010, 10:19:17 AM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? In depending on time and location I'll have some of this! Easy cash for me... 8 ball English World Rules... Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: StuartHopkin on October 01, 2010, 12:17:14 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? In depending on time and location I'll have some of this! Easy cash for me... 8 ball English World Rules... Defo my preferred rules if were playing Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: paulhouk03 on October 01, 2010, 12:23:50 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? In depending on time and location I'll have some of this! Easy cash for me... 8 ball English World Rules... Defo my preferred rules if were playing isnt rileys 24 7 in nottingham? Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: vegaslover on October 01, 2010, 12:24:56 PM Best of 3 would take an age, have it 1 frame till the final then play 3. Can't really play a world rules tournament with one frame, too many break/dishes, a lot of players won't even get a shot.Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: ACE2M on October 01, 2010, 12:34:29 PM Best of 3 would take an age, have it 1 frame till the final then play 3. Can't really play a world rules tournament with one frame, too many break/dishes, a lot of players won't even get a shot.true Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: StuartHopkin on October 01, 2010, 12:36:34 PM 25£ pool tourney at dtd this weekend? Best of 3 knockout? In depending on time and location I'll have some of this! Easy cash for me... 8 ball English World Rules... Defo my preferred rules if were playing isnt rileys 24 7 in nottingham? Yes Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on October 01, 2010, 12:45:16 PM Cheers for pms and advice peeps.
Sorted a London based coach. One time run good. Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: StuartHopkin on October 01, 2010, 01:00:21 PM Cheers for pms and advice peeps. Sorted a London based coach. One time run good. Can I have a pound on the other guy? Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on October 01, 2010, 01:23:45 PM Cheers for pms and advice peeps. Sorted a London based coach. One time run good. Can I have a pound on the other guy? Are you good for it? Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: StuartHopkin on October 01, 2010, 01:24:59 PM Cheers for pms and advice peeps. Sorted a London based coach. One time run good. Can I have a pound on the other guy? Are you good for it? Probs not Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: Leatherman on October 01, 2010, 08:01:52 PM Cheers for pms and advice peeps. Sorted a London based coach. One time run good. Sigh.. why can't i live closer too london.. I'd teach you Poolz and you teach me Pokerz... Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: GreekStein on October 02, 2010, 12:05:39 AM Cheers for pms and advice peeps. Sorted a London based coach. One time run good. Sigh.. why can't i live closer too london.. I'd teach you Poolz and you teach me Pokerz... lols I'm terrible at poker, truly truly terrible, just a bit lucky Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: ACE2M on October 09, 2010, 10:57:12 PM if you want to get some tips from the pros the 2 best players in the world are currently playing in yarmouth.
http://thestreamteam.co.uk/video_streaming/generic_portal_page/epa_live/epa_stream_page.php Title: Re: POOL BET - HELP! Post by: geordieneil on October 10, 2010, 02:50:01 PM wear a pink mankini while playing (borat style) and stand in the view of his aim.....if he can play properly then he's either got the hots for u or he's a pro :P
on a serious note. take an ansolute fkin ages on every shot, tilts the fk out of most pool players |