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Title: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 11, 2010, 01:51:58 PM
Apologies for the spam, this is probably going to make a lot of people lol.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2010/10/uk-pokernews-exclusive-interview-audley-harrison-full-tilt-5976.htm

I've never been a fan of Audley as a boxer, but have respected how he has kept his poker under the radar (until now), as a boxing fan I couldn't turn this down and he dissapointed me by being a really nice guy.



Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: outragous76 on October 11, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
Apologies for the spam, this is probably going to make a lot of people lol.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2010/10/uk-pokernews-exclusive-interview-audley-harrison-full-tilt-5976.htm

I've never been a fan of Audley as a boxer, but have respected how he has kept his poker under the radar (until now), as a boxing fan I couldn't turn this down and he dissapointed me by being a really nice guy.



OMG!

I played 1/2 with audley at the golden nugget - and he was average at best

why sign up such unrespected (in his original chosen discipline) lemons, when there are so many good uk pros out there who would have a much bigger impact.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Hairydude on October 11, 2010, 01:57:56 PM
Apologies for the spam, this is probably going to make a lot of people lol.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2010/10/uk-pokernews-exclusive-interview-audley-harrison-full-tilt-5976.htm

I've never been a fan of Audley as a boxer, but have respected how he has kept his poker under the radar (until now), as a boxing fan I couldn't turn this down and he dissapointed me by being a really nice guy.



OMG!

I played 1/2 with audley at the golden nugget - and he was average at best

why sign up such unrespected (in his original chosen discipline) lemons, when there are so many good uk pros out there who would have a much bigger impact.

I'm guessing due to exposure rather than "just another poker pro"- he might be shizer at both poker and boxing but he's a brand name(albeit maybe in a negative context)- plus advertising in the Haye fight is pretty mega for FTP


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 11, 2010, 01:59:28 PM
Apologies for the spam, this is probably going to make a lot of people lol.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2010/10/uk-pokernews-exclusive-interview-audley-harrison-full-tilt-5976.htm

I've never been a fan of Audley as a boxer, but have respected how he has kept his poker under the radar (until now), as a boxing fan I couldn't turn this down and he dissapointed me by being a really nice guy.



OMG!

I played 1/2 with audley at the golden nugget - and he was average at best

why sign up such unrespected (in his original chosen discipline) lemons, when there are so many good uk pros out there who would have a much bigger impact.

Even an unpopular but famous boxer is going to bring more new players to the table than an established poker pro


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: vegaslover on October 11, 2010, 01:59:45 PM
Apologies for the spam, this is probably going to make a lot of people lol.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2010/10/uk-pokernews-exclusive-interview-audley-harrison-full-tilt-5976.htm

I've never been a fan of Audley as a boxer, but have respected how he has kept his poker under the radar (until now), as a boxing fan I couldn't turn this down and he dissapointed me by being a really nice guy.



OMG!

I played 1/2 with audley at the golden nugget - and he was average at best

why sign up such unrespected (in his original chosen discipline) lemons, when there are so many good uk pros out there who would have a much bigger impact.

I'm guessing due to exposure rather than "just another poker pro"- he might be shizer at both poker and boxing but he's a brand name(albeit maybe in a negative context)- plus advertising in the Haye fight is pretty mega for FTP

This ^^^^ pretty much sums up why


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 11, 2010, 02:00:34 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Stars sponsored Haye after this, just for the fight


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: AlrightJack on October 11, 2010, 02:04:15 PM
Apologies for the spam, this is probably going to make a lot of people lol.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2010/10/uk-pokernews-exclusive-interview-audley-harrison-full-tilt-5976.htm

I've never been a fan of Audley as a boxer, but have respected how he has kept his poker under the radar (until now), as a boxing fan I couldn't turn this down and he dissapointed me by being a really nice guy.



OMG!

I played 1/2 with audley at the golden nugget - and he was average at best

why sign up such unrespected (in his original chosen discipline) lemons, when there are so many good uk pros out there who would have a much bigger impact.

Why do you think a pro would have a big impact?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Hairydude on October 11, 2010, 02:07:39 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Stars sponsored Haye after this, just for the fight

Would love this to happen


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 11, 2010, 02:40:18 PM
Im tilted.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Woodsey on October 11, 2010, 03:25:15 PM
Apologies for the spam, this is probably going to make a lot of people lol.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2010/10/uk-pokernews-exclusive-interview-audley-harrison-full-tilt-5976.htm

I've never been a fan of Audley as a boxer, but have respected how he has kept his poker under the radar (until now), as a boxing fan I couldn't turn this down and he dissapointed me by being a really nice guy.



OMG!

I played 1/2 with audley at the golden nugget - and he was average at best

why sign up such unrespected (in his original chosen discipline) lemons, when there are so many good uk pros out there who would have a much bigger impact.

Why do you think a pro would have a big impact?

I think pros apart from the very big names are a waste of money to tbh. Don't know many people they have ever really influenced to play on a site. Thewy is the only exception I can think of who has influenced where I have played a bit.........

They are better off with an Audley Harrison or Boris Becker etc....


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 11, 2010, 03:30:52 PM
I reckon Ivey, Hellmuth, Doyle and Daniel might attract new players to a room, maybe Tony G, Antonio, Phil Laak too. Why these players? Because they kind of have a WWE esque character/brand that has a broader appeal to non poker players. Other than that, cant see anyone who is just good at poker bringing new blood to the tables.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Mitch on October 11, 2010, 04:07:30 PM
Hes just done a live interview on Sky Sports News, Full Tilt badge in full view. lol.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: The Camel on October 11, 2010, 04:47:43 PM
He'll be fully tilted to 90 degrees when Haye knocks him over in the first round.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: action man on October 11, 2010, 07:12:48 PM
masterstroke by tilt, get some big badges on him on fight night and get some more uk donkos into the pool


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: redsimon on October 11, 2010, 07:18:10 PM
Full Tilt logos on soles of his boots for maximum exposure?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: kinboshi on October 11, 2010, 07:31:25 PM
I reckon Ivey, Hellmuth, Doyle and Daniel might attract new players to a room, maybe Tony G, Antonio, Phil Laak too. Why these players? Because they kind of have a WWE esque character/brand that has a broader appeal to non poker players. Other than that, cant see anyone who is just good at poker bringing new blood to the tables.

Liv Boeree might attract a few players.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: George2Loose on October 11, 2010, 07:38:02 PM
I reckon Ivey, Hellmuth, Doyle and Daniel might attract new players to a room, maybe Tony G, Antonio, Phil Laak too. Why these players? Because they kind of have a WWE esque character/brand that has a broader appeal to non poker players. Other than that, cant see anyone who is just good at poker bringing new blood to the tables.

Liv Boeree might attract a few players.

FT I will tell all my friends who will sign up plus I will wear your badge on the school run. Can I have a red pro deal pls?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: pokefast on October 11, 2010, 09:13:33 PM
He'll be fully tilted to 90 degrees when Haye knocks him over in the first round.

Very much this


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: GreekStein on October 11, 2010, 09:56:08 PM
get him in the well imo


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: AlrightJack on October 11, 2010, 09:58:28 PM
He'll be fully tilted to 90 degrees when Haye knocks him over in the first round.

Very much this

Maybe he's gonna be promoting turbos.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DUNK619 on October 11, 2010, 09:59:07 PM
He'll be fully tilted to 90 degrees when Haye knocks him over in the first round.
Do you honestly think this will happen?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: outragous76 on October 12, 2010, 01:02:56 AM
He'll be fully tilted to 90 degrees when Haye knocks him over in the first round.
Do you honestly think this will happen?

not a chance

audley will have run out fo the ring before haye gets near him


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Woodsey on October 12, 2010, 01:04:04 AM
He'll be fully tilted to 90 degrees when Haye knocks him over in the first round.
Do you honestly think this will happen?

not a chance

audley will have run out fo the ring before haye gets near him

If he doesn't get him in 1 it will be 3 max for sure. Reckon this could be Audleys last fight.........


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Longy on October 12, 2010, 01:29:49 AM
He'll be fully tilted to 90 degrees when Haye knocks him over in the first round.
Do you honestly think this will happen?

not a chance

audley will have run out fo the ring before haye gets near him

If he doesn't get him in 1 it will be 3 max for sure. Reckon this could be Audleys last fight.........

We can only hope, the guy has been a joke for the last decade.



Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: JaffaCake on October 12, 2010, 01:55:04 AM
played with him all of day one of the wsop main event last year, he plays ok, certainly better than most celebs u see. think he'd just won a bellagio cup event the day before or something too? still no good as a boxer and haye will kill him but i forgot to tell him that to his face


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: The Camel on October 12, 2010, 01:56:41 AM
played with him all of day one of the wsop main event last year, he plays ok, certainly better than most celebs u see. think he'd just won a bellagio cup event the day before or something too? still no good as a boxer and haye will kill him but i forgot to tell him that to his face

You'd be no bigger than 6/4 to beat him in 12 rounds.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: kinboshi on October 12, 2010, 11:35:42 AM
played with him all of day one of the wsop main event last year, he plays ok, certainly better than most celebs u see. think he'd just won a bellagio cup event the day before or something too? still no good as a boxer and haye will kill him but i forgot to tell him that to his face

You'd be no bigger than 6/4 to beat him in 12 rounds.

I'll have £50 at 6/4 please.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: pokefast on October 12, 2010, 11:37:34 AM
He's absolutely hopeless, but this being heavyweight boxing he always has a punchers chance, but please god NOOOOOOOOOOO!

He doesn't deserve a shot at the Midlands area title never mind this.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: The Camel on October 12, 2010, 11:39:03 AM
He's absolutely hopeless, but this being heavyweight boxing he always has a punchers chance, but please god NOOOOOOOOOOO!

He doesn't deserve a shot at the Midlands area title never mind this.

He doesn't have a punchers chance, because he never throws a punch!

He grabs, he runs and he hides.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: kinboshi on October 12, 2010, 11:40:30 AM
Thing is, if he actually had some bottle he'd be more than half decent.  He's fast, he's big, and when he does punch he can bang a bit.  But his attitude and heart is non-existent.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: byronkincaid on October 12, 2010, 11:47:04 AM
had no interest in this fight at all, now really want audrey to win


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: pokefast on October 12, 2010, 11:53:25 AM
He's absolutely hopeless, but this being heavyweight boxing he always has a punchers chance, but please god NOOOOOOOOOOO!

He doesn't deserve a shot at the Midlands area title never mind this.



He doesn't have a punchers chance, because he never throws a punch!

He grabs, he runs and he hides.


Do you think the bookies have Audrey's price wrong then Keith?

How would you price him for the fight?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: The Camel on October 12, 2010, 12:07:59 PM
He's absolutely hopeless, but this being heavyweight boxing he always has a punchers chance, but please god NOOOOOOOOOOO!

He doesn't deserve a shot at the Midlands area title never mind this.



He doesn't have a punchers chance, because he never throws a punch!

He grabs, he runs and he hides.


Do you think the bookies have Audrey's price wrong then Keith?

How would you price him for the fight?

To be honest boxing is a sport I dislike intensely and I've only ever had two bets on it.

I think its he exploitative sport imignable, with rich old men making huge amounts of money on the backs of young poor men risking life and limb in the slim hopes of getting rich and famous.

The only reason I know anything about Harrison is because a mate used to work for Cantor Index who sponsored him when he turned pro after his Olympic success.

He spent many hours telling me what a clown Harrison was.

I haven't a clue how they bet on this fight, but off the top of my head 1/12 Haye sounds about right.



Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Horneris on October 12, 2010, 01:29:41 PM
"I hate to say it but if I was starting a poker room I would much sooner have Anne Widdicombe represent my online room right now than Jake Cody, and that is a horrible truth to admit."

Barry Carter. http://barrycarterpoker.blogspot.com/2010/10/audley-harrison-interview.html


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: TightEnd on October 12, 2010, 01:35:47 PM
Barry's right, sadly

I always overestimate the extent to which the general populace is aware of the likes of Ivey and Negraneau, let alone Someone like Jake Cody

The pool of those genuinely keen on poker is far smaller than you'd think, and an endorsement from a "hot celeb of the moment", especially in a global context, is the way to attract new blood to the game/sites


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 12, 2010, 01:50:37 PM
If you stopped 100 randoms in the street to name a famous poker player you might be lucky if a couple of them said something like the Devilfish, the Hendon Mob or Vicky Coren. I'd actually wager more people are aware of who Tikay is over Roland De Wolfe or Channing (Which is nearly on a par with my Cody/Widdicombe reference).

Apologies to Jake for singling him out but its probably because I think he is the best of an incredibly talented young bunch we have in the UK. Maybe he can use my quote in the blonde sig?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 12, 2010, 03:08:53 PM
Full Tilt logos on soles of his boots for maximum exposure?

Needs more love.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: GreekStein on October 12, 2010, 06:01:59 PM
I'd actually wager more people are aware of who Tikay is over Roland De Wolfe or Channing (Which is nearly on a par with my Cody/Widdicombe reference).

Willing to bet you against this. Think more people know Channing and De Wolfe.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 12, 2010, 06:48:42 PM
I'd actually wager more people are aware of who Tikay is over Roland De Wolfe or Channing (Which is nearly on a par with my Cody/Widdicombe reference).

Willing to bet you against this. Think more people know Channing and De Wolfe.

Random people on the street? I'd be interested, how would you propose we did it?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: kinboshi on October 12, 2010, 08:08:12 PM
I'd actually wager more people are aware of who Tikay is over Roland De Wolfe or Channing (Which is nearly on a par with my Cody/Widdicombe reference).

Willing to bet you against this. Think more people know Channing and De Wolfe.

I'd probably bet that at least 90% of 'randoms' wouldn't have a clue who Neil or Roland are.  If you showed them photos of them and told them their names, maybe it'd improve the percentage by a couple of percent, but not much.  I'm sure most randoms wouldn't know who tikay is either.  Be funny to hear the answers though, probably most would be guesses associated to the Last of the Summer Wine.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: TightEnd on October 12, 2010, 08:13:00 PM
I'd be with Barry on this

Stand on any high St, three pics of Manbag, Wolfebag and Chanbag and I reckon tikay's 865 exposure would get him more name checks over a sample of 100 random punters


reckon all three would be sub 5%


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: kinboshi on October 12, 2010, 08:13:33 PM
Who are the most famous poker players in terms of the 'general public'?  There are sportsmen who transcend their sport, for example top boxers in their own country and really top boxers are often well known throughout the world.  Same goes for footballers, and the absolute top names in other major sports.

I don't think many poker players are well-known outside the poker-playing world.

Those who aren't interested in athletics, how many athletes who are currently competing can you name - other than Usain Bolt and Paula Radcliffe?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 12, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
I'd say TK/Channing/Rolo would be sub 1% in a truly random UK survey.

I reckon Ivey/Negreanu/Hellmuth might ever so slightly transcend poker in the States. Hachem the same in Oz and a few others like that (Tony G is mahoosive in Lithuania)


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Longy on October 12, 2010, 08:35:43 PM
I think the most recognised poker players would be Ivey, Negreanu, Hellmuth, Doyle and Ferguson (has a unique look). Think they all would still get less 10% knowing who they were on the street. We live in our own little poker bubble, most of my mates wouldn't have a clue who these guys are.



Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Claw75 on October 12, 2010, 08:43:30 PM
I'd say TK/Channing/Rolo would be sub 1% in a truly random UK survey.

I reckon Ivey/Negreanu/Hellmuth might ever so slightly transcend poker in the States. Hachem the same in Oz and a few others like that (Tony G is mahoosive in Lithuania)

in the UK it'd be roughly the same for any of these guys - anyone who plays poker would probably be able to name them all, anyone who doesn't wouldn't have a clue who any of them are.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 08:48:54 PM
I think the most recognised poker players would be Ivey, Negreanu, Hellmuth, Doyle and Ferguson (has a unique look). Think they all would still get less 10% knowing who they were on the street. We live in our own little poker bubble, most of my mates wouldn't have a clue who these guys are.

This.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: kinboshi on October 12, 2010, 08:55:54 PM
I think the most recognised poker players would be Ivey, Negreanu, Hellmuth, Doyle and Ferguson (has a unique look). Think they all would still get less 10% knowing who they were on the street. We live in our own little poker bubble, most of my mates wouldn't have a clue who these guys are.

This.

Can I have your autograph?  It's for my Gran.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 12, 2010, 08:56:44 PM
Tikay, serious question, do you get recognised much in non poker settings? Like down your local shops or in service stations?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Karabiner on October 12, 2010, 09:01:10 PM
Tikay, serious question, do you get recognised much in non poker settings? Like down your local shops or in service stations?

People stand up and give him their seats on the underground and buses if that's what you mean.

Dyed hair can only hide so much of the ageing process.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 09:14:18 PM
Tikay, serious question, do you get recognised much in non poker settings? Like down your local shops or in service stations?

Not gonna answer that, on the grounds it'll invoke a serious rub.

The subject, though, fascinates me.

Much as it miffs the poker snobs, signing guys like Audley, Boris, Teddy Sheringham, Shane Warne, da de da is a zillion times more cost-effective for an Online Room, as you well know from your trade connections. It's a GREAT signing by Tilt.

Sponsorship as we know it will soon change very much, as the accountants have worked out that it's all about clicks, acquisition, & conversion. And sod all to do with winning an EPT or whatever.

We all love Jake, & Thewy, etc, but we are the "already converted", we are "mature", in that we already play, it's the poker newbies at the very bottom of the food chain that the Poker Sites are now reaching out for, that's where the earnings scope sits. Expect a lot more Premiership Footballers to get poker deals soon, too. Because of the conversion & migration scope.

PS - What % of Online Poker Revenue comes from micro-limits, (where "Rakeback" is a term most of the players have never heard of) do you reckon? 80%? 90%? 95%? Those are the clients the sites want.





Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Claw75 on October 12, 2010, 09:20:22 PM
I met Tikay for a coffee a couple of weeks back at a Tesco cafe.  My bad, as I thought it was one of the ones that had a Costa franchise, but it was just a run of the mill bog standard cafe.  He was worried about how it might affect his superstar image being seen in such a place but to give the paparazzi some credit they left him to drink his tea in peace and the clientele showed utmost respect by pretending they didn't recognise him.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 09:25:13 PM
I met Tikay for a coffee a couple of weeks back at a Tesco cafe.  My bad, as I thought it was one of the ones that had a Costa franchise, but it was just a run of the mill bog standard cafe.  He was worried about how it might affect his superstar image being seen in such a place but to give the paparazzi some credit they left him to drink his tea in peace and the clientele showed utmost respect by pretending they didn't recognise him.

Lol, I'm so owned.

You were bang out of order, though. You promised me it was a Costa, & it was a bloody Tesco. You proper grimmed me.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Claw75 on October 12, 2010, 09:31:04 PM
I met Tikay for a coffee a couple of weeks back at a Tesco cafe.  My bad, as I thought it was one of the ones that had a Costa franchise, but it was just a run of the mill bog standard cafe.  He was worried about how it might affect his superstar image being seen in such a place but to give the paparazzi some credit they left him to drink his tea in peace and the clientele showed utmost respect by pretending they didn't recognise him.

Lol, I'm so owned.

You were bang out of order, though. You promised me it was a Costa, & it was a bloody Tesco. You proper grimmed me.


thought it would be good for you to get a taste of how the other half live.  you can buy groceries and stuff there too you know


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 09:35:19 PM
I met Tikay for a coffee a couple of weeks back at a Tesco cafe.  My bad, as I thought it was one of the ones that had a Costa franchise, but it was just a run of the mill bog standard cafe.  He was worried about how it might affect his superstar image being seen in such a place but to give the paparazzi some credit they left him to drink his tea in peace and the clientele showed utmost respect by pretending they didn't recognise him.

Lol, I'm so owned.

You were bang out of order, though. You promised me it was a Costa, & it was a bloody Tesco. You proper grimmed me.


thought it would be good for you to get a taste of how the other half live.  you can buy groceries and stuff there too you know

Tell it to Jeeves.



Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: byronkincaid on October 12, 2010, 09:35:32 PM
Quote
PS - What % of Online Poker Revenue comes from micro-limits, (where "Rakeback" is a term most of the players have never heard of) do you reckon? 80%? 90%? 95%? Those are the clients the sites want.

FT and stars have huge numbers of mega tabling regs, each raking thousands a month, i would have thought they added up to more than the casual micro stakes players? especially with it being hard for americans to get money on/off the sites, the french being banned and general economic downturn etc


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 09:37:27 PM
Quote
PS - What % of Online Poker Revenue comes from micro-limits, (where "Rakeback" is a term most of the players have never heard of) do you reckon? 80%? 90%? 95%? Those are the clients the sites want.

FT and stars have huge numbers of mega tabling regs, each raking thousands a month, i would have thought they added up to more than the casual micro stakes players? especially with it being hard for americans to get money on/off the sites, the french being banned and general economic downturn etc

And how many micro-limit Tables?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: byronkincaid on October 12, 2010, 09:39:29 PM
although you say "poker revenue" so i guess it mostly does come from the bottom and work it's way up. winning regs just take money off the site of course


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Bongo on October 12, 2010, 09:39:34 PM
Do those regs deposit every month?

If so what do they actually bring to the site?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
although you say "poker revenue" so i guess it mostly does come from the bottom and work it's way up. winning regs just take money off the site of course

Yes - "revenue" is all that matters.



Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: byronkincaid on October 12, 2010, 10:03:02 PM
although you say "poker revenue" so i guess it mostly does come from the bottom and work it's way up. winning regs just take money off the site of course

Yes - "revenue" is all that matters.



so why not limit the amount of tables you can play at the same time to say 4, keep stakes fairly low and even ban players who consistently take too much money off the site?


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 10:07:53 PM
although you say "poker revenue" so i guess it mostly does come from the bottom and work it's way up. winning regs just take money off the site of course

Yes - "revenue" is all that matters.



so why not limit the amount of tables you can play at the same time to say 4, keep stakes fairly low and even ban players who consistently take too much money off the site?

In effect, that's what i-Poker did to us. Banned the winning players account - froze it, refused to allow him to play, or withdraw - & fined us 50% of what he won. And refused to pay the player until we agreed to pay the "fine".

He had made $50k in about a month.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: TightEnd on October 12, 2010, 10:11:43 PM
very different economics and therefore decisions for networks versus the non networks, remember

cake gets sliced fewer ways if you are stand-alone

Networks, in this declining online environment are various stages of toast, economically


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Karabiner on October 12, 2010, 10:17:17 PM
very different economics and therefore decisions for networks versus the non networks, remember

cake gets sliced fewer ways if you are stand-alone

Networks, in this declining online environment are various stages of toast, economically

That makes Laddies switch from stand-alone even more ill-timed and surprising.

Cyril Stein would not have approved.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 10:25:47 PM
very different economics and therefore decisions for networks versus the non networks, remember

cake gets sliced fewer ways if you are stand-alone

Networks, in this declining online environment are various stages of toast, economically

Well done. The Toast, I mean.

The networks are as good as dead, it's just a question of time. The death will be ugly, too, many of them are not exactly run by Mother Theresa.

I'm really sad about Laddies though, it used to be such a lovely room, & software.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: RED-DOG on October 12, 2010, 10:28:58 PM
Laddies?

Cliffs please.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2010, 10:35:13 PM
Laddies?

Cliffs please.

Their Online Poker room continues, despite numerous attempts by Management to arrest the decline, in freefall as to revenue. Annual declines of 10% to 20% cannot be sustained for very long, & it's been heading south at that rate for several years now. A shame, really. It's because you left, I reckon.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Whollyflush on October 13, 2010, 01:26:39 AM
I'd say TK/Channing/Rolo would be sub 1% in a truly random UK survey.

I reckon Ivey/Negreanu/Hellmuth might ever so slightly transcend poker in the States. Hachem the same in Oz and a few others like that (Tony G is mahoosive in Lithuania)

I was talking to a guy in the Vic while ept was on from Lithuania. He said poker there is recognised as a sport and its very very popular there. They have national MTT events with no prizes lol! sounds mad but kinda cool aswell.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 13, 2010, 08:10:31 AM
I'd say TK/Channing/Rolo would be sub 1% in a truly random UK survey.

I reckon Ivey/Negreanu/Hellmuth might ever so slightly transcend poker in the States. Hachem the same in Oz and a few others like that (Tony G is mahoosive in Lithuania)

I was talking to a guy in the Vic while ept was on from Lithuania. He said poker there is recognised as a sport and its very very popular there. They have national MTT events with no prizes lol! sounds mad but kinda cool aswell.

Thats actually a really good idea, I'm sure if some of the big names did this in the USA and across Europe it would really help get it recognised as a game of skill. They could televise them and thus still make it lucrative.


Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 13, 2010, 11:27:06 AM
http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/team_pokerstars_pro/2010/team-pokerstars-pro-signs-toni-judet-074588.html

There is very little in the actual mechanics of shooting pool and playing poker that can be considered even remotely similar. In fact, with the exception of a table covered in felt, it's hard to find anything in function or form that links the two together at all. Well, there is the wagering, of course. But aside from that...

In any case, it's not uncommon to find among poker's elite groups a few people with a little but of pool sharking in their past (See Negreanu, Daniel). Now, Team PokerStars Pro has another man on their team who has traded his cue for some cards. Romanian Toni Judet is an international billards champ who only started playing poker five years ago. Since then he's become one of his country's top poker pros.

Judet has done so well for himself that he's caught the eye of PokerStars. Just today Team PokerStars Pro announced that Judet is among its newest members.



Judet isn't some sleeper pick-up.

A couple of years back, he won a quarter millon bucks in a side event at the EPT Grand Final in Monte Carlo. That same year, he won even more after a 22nd place finish in the WSOP Main Event. As if that wasn't enough, Judet won the CAPT Bregenz Open Main Event for $141,245 and the title.

Since that time Judet has become a familiar face on the European Poker Tour, a circuit he will now travel with the Team Pro patch on his shoulder.

You can find Team PokerStars' newest member using the screen name "Toni Judet."






This seems like a perfect signing from Stars. Successful at poker, from a developing poker region and also famous in another niche arena where there could be a lot of crossover interest. Stick a pair of tits on him and it could be the best signing ever!



Title: Re: Audley Harrison Signs With Full Tilt Poker
Post by: Whollyflush on October 13, 2010, 01:09:41 PM
I'd say TK/Channing/Rolo would be sub 1% in a truly random UK survey.

I reckon Ivey/Negreanu/Hellmuth might ever so slightly transcend poker in the States. Hachem the same in Oz and a few others like that (Tony G is mahoosive in Lithuania)

I was talking to a guy in the Vic while ept was on from Lithuania. He said poker there is recognised as a sport and its very very popular there. They have national MTT events with no prizes lol! sounds mad but kinda cool aswell.

Thats actually a really good idea, I'm sure if some of the big names did this in the USA and across Europe it would really help get it recognised as a game of skill. They could televise them and thus still make it lucrative.

I forgot to add, that these events are also televised in Lithuania.