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Title: Redundancy Post by: jjandellis on October 20, 2010, 03:45:27 PM JUST ONE TIME PLSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
OH OK AND ONE SECOND TIME TO COVER THE PERIOD I TAKE THE LUMP SUM TO VEGAS!!!!!!! (then no more one timez ever ever again*) Please let me be one of the 7000!!!! * except little ones when in races.... Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 03:48:05 PM How much would u get?
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: gatso on October 20, 2010, 03:48:59 PM glgl. being made redundant is awesome
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: outragous76 on October 20, 2010, 03:49:26 PM this is kinda an insensitive post with the greatest respect!
there are many people going to lose jobs that will put them in a very difficult financial situaton! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 03:52:14 PM this is kinda an insensitive post with the greatest respect! there are many people going to lose jobs that will put them in a very difficult financial situaton! Meh I wouldn't mind tbh.......... Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: GreekStein on October 20, 2010, 03:58:59 PM i wouldn't mind either
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: StuartHopkin on October 20, 2010, 04:09:51 PM George Osboune is pretty much the greatest today.
Ty ty ty Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 04:16:35 PM yeah be careful what you wish for. I thought being made redundant last year was one of the best things that could have happened to me at the time. Not so great 18 months down the line, money all gone, stuck on the dole queue and can't even get a reply to 20+ applications a week for the crappiest of jobs due to sheer number of applicants.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 04:19:46 PM yeah be careful what you wish for. I thought being made redundant last year was one of the best things that could have happened to me at the time. Not so great 18 months down the line, money all gone, stuck on the dole queue and can't even get a reply to 20+ applications a week for the crappiest of jobs due to sheer number of applicants. I thought u chose to quit? No? Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 04:21:13 PM yeah be careful what you wish for. I thought being made redundant last year was one of the best things that could have happened to me at the time. Not so great 18 months down the line, money all gone, stuck on the dole queue and can't even get a reply to 20+ applications a week for the crappiest of jobs due to sheer number of applicants. I thought u chose to quit? No? yep - it was voluntary. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: bhoywonder on October 20, 2010, 04:29:43 PM Great...if u have another job to talk into..........
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: redsimon on October 20, 2010, 04:43:51 PM Great...if u have another job to walk into.......... +1 and fixed post...We're getting our announcement tomorrow afternoon and thats just for pre CSR reductions, looking like about half our staff will be looking for a new job by 2014, and they've just slashed the redundancy scheme by 2/3rds. Guess I'll have to rely on my gold plated pension which is woth 3K a year currently Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: boldie on October 20, 2010, 04:45:01 PM yeah be careful what you wish for. I thought being made redundant last year was one of the best things that could have happened to me at the time. Not so great 18 months down the line, money all gone, stuck on the dole queue and can't even get a reply to 20+ applications a week for the crappiest of jobs due to sheer number of applicants. I thought u chose to quit? No? yep - it was voluntary. So you didn't do your sums properly or investigate the labour market, really. If you do your sums properly redundancy can be amazing. Our client paid 10% of their workforce off a few months ago and they all got 1 month's poay for every year's service + an additional 8k. For some people this meant they could retire early, well done them. some others had jobs lined up and could take them with a decent lump sum in their pocket. Unfortunately my contract isn't that tasty or I would jump at it, if given the option (knowing that I could find a job somewhere else fairly quickly) BTW Jjandellis, where is LOS? Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 04:54:05 PM yeah be careful what you wish for. I thought being made redundant last year was one of the best things that could have happened to me at the time. Not so great 18 months down the line, money all gone, stuck on the dole queue and can't even get a reply to 20+ applications a week for the crappiest of jobs due to sheer number of applicants. I thought u chose to quit? No? yep - it was voluntary. So you didn't do your sums properly or investigate the labour market, really. If you do your sums properly redundancy can be amazing. Our client paid 10% of their workforce off a few months ago and they all got 1 month's poay for every year's service + an additional 8k. For some people this meant they could retire early, well done them. some others had jobs lined up and could take them with a decent lump sum in their pocket. Unfortunately my contract isn't that tasty or I would jump at it, if given the option (knowing that I could find a job somewhere else fairly quickly) BTW Jjandellis, where is LOS? no i probably didn't, but there were a variety of reasons behind my decision at the time that led me to taking it. I got a pretty good wedge that let me clear an outstanding loan and a credit card debt, take a holiday and still leave enough to live off sensibly for 6 months or so. Having never been out of work and with a decent career record I just naively presumed that when the time was right getting another job wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, don't know why I'm being grilled here, just saying the grass isn't always greener. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: redsimon on October 20, 2010, 05:08:31 PM yeah be careful what you wish for. I thought being made redundant last year was one of the best things that could have happened to me at the time. Not so great 18 months down the line, money all gone, stuck on the dole queue and can't even get a reply to 20+ applications a week for the crappiest of jobs due to sheer number of applicants. I thought u chose to quit? No? yep - it was voluntary. So you didn't do your sums properly or investigate the labour market, really. If you do your sums properly redundancy can be amazing. Our client paid 10% of their workforce off a few months ago and they all got 1 month's poay for every year's service + an additional 8k. For some people this meant they could retire early, well done them. some others had jobs lined up and could take them with a decent lump sum in their pocket. Unfortunately my contract isn't that tasty or I would jump at it, if given the option (knowing that I could find a job somewhere else fairly quickly) BTW Jjandellis, where is LOS? no i probably didn't, but there were a variety of reasons behind my decision at the time that led me to taking it. I got a pretty good wedge that let me clear an outstanding loan and a credit card debt, take a holiday and still leave enough to live off sensibly for 6 months or so. Having never been out of work and with a decent career record I just naively presumed that when the time was right getting another job wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, don't know why I'm being grilled here, just saying the grass isn't always greener. I think you got out at the right time. New severence scheme is pants Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: RED-DOG on October 20, 2010, 05:47:34 PM this is kinda an insensitive post with the greatest respect! there are many people going to lose jobs that will put them in a very difficult financial situaton! But he's hoping it's him, not them. (Or am I missing something?) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: outragous76 on October 20, 2010, 07:17:02 PM this is kinda an insensitive post with the greatest respect! there are many people going to lose jobs that will put them in a very difficult financial situaton! But he's hoping it's him, not them. (Or am I missing something?) wow - i take the other line for a change and get picked up on it! nice! your right - fuck em all - they have all got whats coming to em ! Had an easy life working for govt bodies for too long - get out in to the real world and learn about commercial pressures, and see how many sick days they will tollerate! That any better tom? Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: GreekStein on October 20, 2010, 07:40:02 PM Guy, you've either missed something or you've completely lost the plot here!
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: EvilPie on October 20, 2010, 07:46:08 PM Guy, you've either missed something or you've completely lost the plot here! Think he's saying that just 'cause it's good for him it might not be quite so good for the 6999 others. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: RED-DOG on October 20, 2010, 08:01:10 PM this is kinda an insensitive post with the greatest respect! there are many people going to lose jobs that will put them in a very difficult financial situaton! But he's hoping it's him, not them. (Or am I missing something?) wow - i take the other line for a change and get picked up on it! nice! your right - fuck em all - they have all got whats coming to em ! Had an easy life working for govt bodies for too long - get out in to the real world and learn about commercial pressures, and see how many sick days they will tollerate! That any better tom? I think you may have read me wrong. I wasn't picking anyone up, I really didn't get your point (I'm a bit dim sometimes) I apologise if I caused you any offence, but I really don't see how you can read the "fuck em all etc.." stuff into my post. I was just asking what I thought was an innocent question. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: TightPaulFolds on October 20, 2010, 08:05:32 PM I am threatened with redundancy and find this grossly insensitive and upsetting. How dare you.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 08:08:08 PM I am threatened with redundancy and find this grossly insensitive and upsetting. How dare you. I don't know why the OP was only expressing his personal preference, not what he wishes upon others, but GL to you obv........... :) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: celtic on October 20, 2010, 08:10:16 PM Redundancy isn't the end of the world. Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on October 20, 2010, 08:12:46 PM I am threatened with redundancy and find this grossly insensitive and upsetting. How dare you. I don't know why the OP was only expressing his personal preference, not what he wishes upon others, but GL to you obv........... :) Pretty sure that was a level,but either way I cant really see why OP isn't entitled to wish himself to be made redundant and be happy about it. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 20, 2010, 08:15:13 PM Redundancy isn't the end of the world. Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. ^^THIS^^ If they spent as much time looking for work as they do on facebook then im sure they could find a job quite easily! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: TightPaulFolds on October 20, 2010, 08:15:42 PM This may force me to sit at home and play heads up 0.25/0.5 against Stuart Hopkin all day in my pyjamas. How dare you.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on October 20, 2010, 08:16:52 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: StuartHopkin on October 20, 2010, 08:17:12 PM :D Love you Paul
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: TightPaulFolds on October 20, 2010, 08:19:32 PM Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 08:21:37 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on October 20, 2010, 08:23:25 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... Like I say cba to have the same debate again but at work recently we had a minimum wage job become available and there was at least 150 applications for it. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 20, 2010, 08:29:27 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... Like I say cba to have the same debate again but at work recently we had a minimum wage job become available and there was at least 150 applications for it. I took a polish guy to work the other day. Was his first day at the job and spoke limited english, but had found a job on agency working at asda warehouse. Pretty sure theres jobs out there to be had but like woodsey says its the people being too fussy in what they want to do! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Acidmouse on October 20, 2010, 08:31:38 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there...
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: StuartHopkin on October 20, 2010, 08:33:20 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... Like I say cba to have the same debate again but at work recently we had a minimum wage job become available and there was at least 150 applications for it. Did this job have some prospects or training involved? Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Waz1892 on October 20, 2010, 08:40:59 PM yeah be careful what you wish for. I thought being made redundant last year was one of the best things that could have happened to me at the time. Not so great 18 months down the line, money all gone, stuck on the dole queue and can't even get a reply to 20+ applications a week for the crappiest of jobs due to sheer number of applicants. I thought u chose to quit? No? yep - it was voluntary. So you didn't do your sums properly or investigate the labour market, really. bit harsh, without knowing her personal situ at the time?!...redundacy is "fanstatic" IF you have other options at the time, if not it is a big decision, and i'm sure it wasn't taken lightly by claire. Work with Royal Mail group who are losing 2000 jobs, so going through the process at mo..it isn't pretty, and I do have a good package if I want it..still a big hard, and worrying decision Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 08:44:27 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Acidmouse on October 20, 2010, 08:45:55 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... some people cant offord to work min wage, better off on dole. blame the system. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: outragous76 on October 20, 2010, 08:46:34 PM All I said was the post was insensitive!
The reality is that redundancy can be very stressful, for those who don't want it, especially those who are reliant on their job and won't get a big payout. I said nothing about new employment or opportunities! Redundacy can affect peoples confidence, motivation, and although I accept that some people can be happy to be made redundant, I don't believe people should rub it in other peoples faces! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 08:46:43 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... it's almost the opposite. ask tank how many knockbacks he had for 'shitty' jobs before he got his current position. I've applied for around 200 jobs over the past two months - most of them pretty poorly paid and certainly not 'good' jobs. 100+ applicants for the ones that require some skills/experience, multiply that for jobs with no such requirements. From those 200 applications the vast majority haven't even induced a 'thanks but no thanks' because the recruiters simply don't have time to respond to the sheer number of applications they're getting in. It really is a jungle out there at the moment. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 20, 2010, 08:47:13 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... some people cant offord to work min wage, better off on dole. blame the system. How is dole better than earning ur own crust? Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 08:47:45 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... try living on benefits then tell me it's easy. think i'd better turn the computer off for a bit. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 08:48:37 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... some people cant offord to work min wage, better off on dole. blame the system. I absolutely realise that, not seen the news properly today, I hope they have addressed this to some extent......... Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Acidmouse on October 20, 2010, 08:51:52 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... some people cant offord to work min wage, better off on dole. blame the system. How is dole better than earning ur own crust? financially it can be for a lot of the low income jobs as you can lose all your benefits like rent etc. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: TightPaulFolds on October 20, 2010, 08:52:41 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... some people cant offord to work min wage, better off on dole. blame the system. How is dole better than earning ur own crust? It's not really, but when you add on housing benefit and all that stuff, some are better off just sitting at home. Good time for some peops to experiment with self-employment imo Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on October 20, 2010, 08:53:19 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... Like I say cba to have the same debate again but at work recently we had a minimum wage job become available and there was at least 150 applications for it. Did this job have some prospects or training involved? Assistant in Stores dept,so not really. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 20, 2010, 08:54:06 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... some people cant offord to work min wage, better off on dole. blame the system. How is dole better than earning ur own crust? It's not really, but when you add on housing benefit and all that stuff, some are better off just sitting at home. Good time for some peops to experiment with self-employment imo This is the reason why our countrys in the shit! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 08:56:29 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... try living on benefits then tell me it's easy. think i'd better turn the computer off for a bit. I can tell its tough for you from your posts obv, unfortunately there are plenty that do take it as the easy option. Not meaning to be a nob to you obv, just expressing my honest thoughts however harsh they may sound........... Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 20, 2010, 09:00:30 PM Genuine Question to Claire, If you got offered a Job in a Supermarket 38 hours a week £6 per hour, would you accept it or would you wait for a position more suitable for you?
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: TightPaulFolds on October 20, 2010, 09:02:25 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... some people cant offord to work min wage, better off on dole. blame the system. How is dole better than earning ur own crust? It's not really, but when you add on housing benefit and all that stuff, some are better off just sitting at home. Good time for some peops to experiment with self-employment imo This is the reason why our countrys in the shit! Yep, new govt might change things a bit. Also the reason why we had so many great bands for last 3 decades! Sit at home dreaming up tunes while Johnny Taxpayer pays your way ;) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: StuartHopkin on October 20, 2010, 09:03:02 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... Like I say cba to have the same debate again but at work recently we had a minimum wage job become available and there was at least 150 applications for it. Did this job have some prospects or training involved? Assistant in Stores dept,so not really. NHS though yeah? Theres something about the place. I applied for a job there back in the day, same thing, 'Firstly we would just like to say well done, from over 600 applications, you have made it to round one of the interviews' No pressure then! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on October 20, 2010, 09:05:30 PM Also huge sigh that the finding a job is easy debate is going to be brought back up,must remember to ignore rest of this thread. There are always jobs, its people being fussy about the job they do that is the problem....... Like I say cba to have the same debate again but at work recently we had a minimum wage job become available and there was at least 150 applications for it. Did this job have some prospects or training involved? Assistant in Stores dept,so not really. NHS though yeah? Theres something about the place. I applied for a job there back in the day, same thing, 'Firstly we would just like to say well done, from over 600 applications, you have made it to round one of the interviews' No pressure then! It's not the NHS,we just do work for them. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 09:06:14 PM No min wage job cant pay most peoples bills and provide a level of income they require just to get by. Ofcourse there are lots of shit jobs out there... Well imo if they don't take the shit jobs they should have benefits withdrawn, pretty simple. Life isn't supposed to be easy......... try living on benefits then tell me it's easy. think i'd better turn the computer off for a bit. I can tell its tough for you from your posts obv, unfortunately there are plenty that do take it as the easy option. Not meaning to be a nob to you obv, just expressing my honest thoughts however harsh they may sound........... the only people that are living an 'easy' life on benefits, imo, are people that are swindling and doing cash in hand work, or claiming what they shouldn't (eg saying they live alone, but living with a partner), and there are far too many of them around. Those are the people that need to be cracked down on. No one is living the Life of Riley on £65 a week jobseekers allowance. As I'm a single parent I get additional income in the form of child benefit and child tax credit, so taking a VERY low paid (eg minimum wage) job would leave me worse off once childcare and stuff is taken into the equation. Yes Girgy, I'd much rather earn my own money - of course I would - I fking hate feeling like a sponger, but as a parent would it not be irresponsible of me in a way to spend less time with my daughter so i can go out to work in a job that means I am struggling even more financially? Single people with no dependants simply can't be better off not working though, except perhaps in London and other places where rent is very high. I'm sure our friend Kev would attest to that if he could :) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 09:07:15 PM Genuine Question to Claire, If you got offered a Job in a Supermarket 38 hours a week £6 per hour, would you accept it or would you wait for a position more suitable for you? genuine response to girgy. i have applied for such jobs. [ ] i have got anywhere. I'd take it (if it was financially viable - see last post) and keep looking for something better. Employers aren't quick to give jobs like that to people they think are overqualified and using it as a stopgap though. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 09:12:50 PM Genuine Question to Claire, If you got offered a Job in a Supermarket 38 hours a week £6 per hour, would you accept it or would you wait for a position more suitable for you? genuine response to girgy. i have applied for such jobs. [ ] i have got anywhere. I'd take it (if it was financially viable - see last post) and keep looking for something better. Employers aren't quick to give jobs like that to people they think are overqualified and using it as a stopgap though. I have to say I do have a problem with people not taking jobs because they don't pay enough and are better off on benefits. I probably shouldn't say much more than that really, that said it is the fault of the system............ Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 09:17:55 PM Genuine Question to Claire, If you got offered a Job in a Supermarket 38 hours a week £6 per hour, would you accept it or would you wait for a position more suitable for you? genuine response to girgy. i have applied for such jobs. [ ] i have got anywhere. I'd take it (if it was financially viable - see last post) and keep looking for something better. Employers aren't quick to give jobs like that to people they think are overqualified and using it as a stopgap though. I have to say I do have a problem with people not taking jobs because they don't pay enough and are better off on benefits. I probably shouldn't say much more than that really, that said it is the fault of the system............ As I said before, no single person with no dependants who is only living on benefits should be able to say that if they geniunely have no other income. maybe the problem is with the level of the minimum wage rather than the benefits system. i have a child, i have to have a 2 bedroomed flat. average rent where i live for such a property is £900-£1k a month. I choose instead to live in a rundown shithole for £200 a month less. Oh and childminders cost around £5 an hour :) Girgy's example of a £6 p/h job for 38 hours a week generates a gross income of £987 a month. It'd be nice to be in a position to be offered a job like that to be faced with the dilemma and do the sums. As I said, i've been applying for posts like that because I'd rather be doing something. if people really think that there are jobs out there just waiting to be filled because no one wants to do them then take a look again at the number of applicants these posts are getting. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: ripple11 on October 20, 2010, 09:43:35 PM We have about 150 foreign students learning English in London at any one time,and I'd say 90% of them are working. (legally I might add)
About 50%-60% of them get a job within a month of arriving in the UK. Ok its cleaning,restaurant work,manual labour etc., but they go looking the day after arriving, and don't stop until they found something.(newspapers/gumtree/walking the streets/friends recommendations etc) Given time and hard work, the waiter/cleaner/labourer turns into a supervisor/ manager/own company. Of course most are young free and single and 4/5 of them to a flat, which really helps, but there never seems to be a shortage of these types of jobs. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 09:47:25 PM As an example of the current job market, these are some adverts on the main site I'm using for jobsearching. The ones with negotiable salaries will obv be higher than min wage (but not well paid by any stretch i would imagine) - the sheer number of applicants gives an indication of just how much competition there is for relatively low paid jobs atm though.
These jobs were added today or yesterday, so number of apps received is in 12-36 hours: Kitchen Assistant/ General Cleaner Location London, South East England Salary £5.93 - £7.50 per hour Applications 34 Housing Maintenance/Cleaner Location Walthamstow, LondonSalary £6.00 - £6.50 per hour, pro-rata Applications 35 Cleaner Location Tulse Hill, LondonSalary £6.00 - £6.50 per hour, pro-rata Applications 33 Supplier Queries Payment Clerk Location Holborn, London Salary Salary Negotiable Recruiter Sainsbury's Applications 428 These are a couple of weeks old: Careers in Customer Service Location United Kingdom, United KingdomSalary Salary NegotiableRecruiterHSBC RetailApplications 6549 Careers in customer service Location United Kingdom, United KingdomSalary Salary NegotiableRecruiterHSBC RetailApplications 11387 1 week old: Night Cleaner Location White City, LondonSalary £6.50 per hour Applications 96 Customer Service Officer Location United Kingdom, United Kingdom Salary Salary Negotiable Recruiter HVC Natwest Applications 3519 Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 10:00:09 PM Of course most are young free and single and 4/5 of them to a flat, which really helps, but there never seems to be a shortage of these types of jobs. it makes a massive difference. I left school during the last recession, and jobs were scarce then too, but obviously money wasn't such an issue as I was living at home. i traipsed round every town centre within a bus ride's distance enquiring in every shop whether there were jobs going. eventually got a position as an office junior for £45 a week which started me off. In many ways it was much easier then though - if I handed my current CV in for the same job now it'd get immediately tossed aside. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Josedinho on October 20, 2010, 10:02:00 PM Might be ignorant but if you're unemployed are you not better of living up North where stuff is cheaper. Especially rent.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 20, 2010, 10:03:14 PM Might be ignorant but if you're unemployed are you not better of living up North where stuff is cheaper. Especially rent. employed or unemployed probably Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Graham C on October 20, 2010, 10:05:38 PM 11387 applications for the Careers in CS role? Shesh!
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Jon MW on October 20, 2010, 10:38:09 PM Genuine Question to Claire, If you got offered a Job in a Supermarket 38 hours a week £6 per hour, would you accept it or would you wait for a position more suitable for you? genuine response to girgy. i have applied for such jobs. [ ] i have got anywhere. I'd take it (if it was financially viable - see last post) and keep looking for something better. Employers aren't quick to give jobs like that to people they think are overqualified and using it as a stopgap though. We have about 150 foreign students learning English in London at any one time,and I'd say 90% of them are working. (legally I might add) About 50%-60% of them get a job within a month of arriving in the UK. Ok its cleaning,restaurant work,manual labour etc., but they go looking the day after arriving, and don't stop until they found something.(newspapers/gumtree/walking the streets/friends recommendations etc) ... These kind of go together. The reason why the foreign students can almost always find a job is because those employers are looking for people like foreign students to fill the vacancies - a more qualified, more experienced candidate would get turned down for the jobs they get for being too qualified and/or too experienced. I've had that problem all the time when I've been unemployed in the past, for example I went for a job in a kitchen of a snooker hall (with catering experience - but also with a degree and IT experience) - they told me I'd be perfect for a managerial position there - but they didn't have any managerial vacancies and they wouldn't give me a junior role. There is a possible issue with 'be careful what you wish for', but I can't see the problem with someone saying they'd like redundancy. RBS have made thousands and thousands of people redundant since they've had their troubles but about 75% have been voluntary redundancy, so it shows there are a lot of people who don't mind the idea. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: AndrewT on October 20, 2010, 10:41:10 PM I'd have loved to have got redundancy in the two rounds that a previous company I worked for had, instead of being one of the people they kept on till the day they went bust when they couldn't pay any wages.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: celtic on October 20, 2010, 10:46:09 PM Redundancy isn't the end of the world. Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. ^^THIS^^ If they spent as much time looking for work as they do on facebook then im sure they could find a job quite easily! Go on the Girgynator. We could be brothers. Obv i'd be the handsome one though. He has a point, Facebook has turned from a social networking site to a networking site for people on the social. All very well saying that people can't afford to work because of their rent/HB etc. What about the people that have mortgages? MBN to have the option to say, fuck it, i cant afford to work. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 20, 2010, 11:38:30 PM ^^^ Meh I can't disagree with much of that tbh. We all need to sort our own shit out and rely less on others. I sell drugs into the NHS and I see the wastage in the NHS day in day out, they do a lot good stuff but they are damn good wasting money too. At the moment I've got a new drug that is pretty much the same as the competition but we are a LOT cheaper, about three quarters of hospitals have done the right thing and switched to ours. The others are 'Well we know we should, but we can't be arsed because it doesn't come out of our budget so we don't care' rotflmfao. Really get on my tits that sort of attitude............ :D
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: thetank on October 20, 2010, 11:45:29 PM Problem I had in a job hunt was that the jobs I had relevant for (bar/retail/fast food management type stuff) didn't want to touch me because my last reference was from 2 years ago, and the one before that from the Triassic era. They figure you've been sacked a bunch of times or something in the mean time.
So I accepted that reality, and applied for a heap of minimum wage gigs at the same time. Was not fussy, I have babies, poo does not scare me. Problem is people looking to fill those minimum wage positions are looking for people who are likely to remain in them for a length of time. Being overqualified is a real problem (or at least I tell myself that's why I got knocked back from the first couple dozen dead end gigs I applied for). If I could live the poker life again, I think I'd keep a part time job, even one day a week, just for the continuity. Also I'd get a fucking driving licence, probs the biggest obstacle in my job hunt was lack of being able to drive. Failed my test twice years ago and just kinda forgot about it. Anyway, got a gig now, in a hotel. I'm like taximan but much less cool. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: thetank on October 20, 2010, 11:51:46 PM It came as a shock to me as I've always been of the opinion that if you're willing to do anything then finding a job will never be a problem.
It sort of was and wasn't, just took me a couple of months when I thought it would take a couple of weeks. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: byronkincaid on October 20, 2010, 11:55:36 PM Quote if people really think that there are jobs out there just waiting to be filled because no one wants to do them then take a look again at the number of applicants these posts are getting. london bus driver, 25K, always looking for trainees, especially women. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2010, 12:05:44 AM Quote if people really think that there are jobs out there just waiting to be filled because no one wants to do them then take a look again at the number of applicants these posts are getting. london bus driver, 25K, always looking for trainees, especially women. anyone that's seen the state of my car will testify that's not the job for me :) the difficulty with jobs like that for someone in my position is the need to be flexible in terms of shift patterns. Childminders generally work 8-6 Monday-Friday. Getting a job outside of those hours if the shifts were standard and always the same hours might be doable if a flexible childminder could be sourced, but finding someone who is willing to cover varying shifts, as the job requires, is next to impossible. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on October 21, 2010, 12:27:25 AM It came as a shock to me as I've always been of the opinion that if you're willing to do anything then finding a job will never be a problem. It sort of was and wasn't, just took me a couple of months when I thought it would take a couple of weeks. I recently separated and the ex is in a transitional period at the moment concentrating on getting the kids and herself resettled, waiting on a house. During out time together she did very well and gained all manner of eduactional and vocational qualifications - as well as boosting her CV with volunteer work. She went to the Job Centre as apparently she has to go there to sign for benefits. During her interview she stated that she wanted to work. The lady behind the desk was shocked and asked her to repeat herself... Fast forward to another encounter with the Local Housing Authorities. She tells them that the army only temporarily house her in a quarter and, after a certain period, she effectively becomes homeless. Having seen herself way down the housing list she has stated her case and been told that she would have to wait x amount of time for a house. UNLESS. She went to the rental market and found one for herself. (A friend of hers is renting some sort of mock tudor place at a ridiculous cost to the taxpayer). She stated that she did not want to do this as the rent would be between 600 - 700 a month higher than a council house. She did not want to burden the public purse and she also wants to return to work. If she ends up in such an expensive property, she would not be able to afford the rent - and therefore whats the point in working??? Furthermore she does not want to bleed the system - she wants to pay her taxes. The LHA were shocked and stated that, unlucky this is the only avenue open to you - or you could be waiting 2 years for a house.... I've since brought pressure to bear through other channels and she's now 'won' a house. But if honest, hard working, highly motivated people are coming up against this sort of attitude - what hope is there of getting those less inclined back into work and off benefits????? lack of social housing is definitely an issue. i went on the list last summer when my landlord was looking at selling the place, but unless i'm about to become homeless in the next four weeks i'm a low priority because i'm already in a property. it's fine at the moment, but i will struggle to pay the rent once i get a job and would, like your ex, much rather be in a council property where the amount of housing benefit i need is lower for now and the rent more manageable later. the landlord was thinking again of selling this year (since changed his mind) and the letting agents were saying it wouldn't be a problem for me finding another place quickly as housing benefit will pay out for a more expensive place (clearly presuming that i'm planning on carrying on claiming HB forever), but i'd rather stay here in squalor :) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: EvilPie on October 21, 2010, 12:56:18 AM ^^^ Meh I can't disagree with much of that tbh. We all need to sort our own shit out and rely less on others. I sell drugs into the NHS and I see the wastage in the NHS day in day out, they do a lot good stuff but they are damn good wasting money too. At the moment I've got a new drug that is pretty much the same as the competition but we are a LOT cheaper, about three quarters of hospitals have done the right thing and switched to ours. The others are 'Well we know we should, but we can't be arsed because it doesn't come out of our budget so we don't care' rotflmfao. Really get on my tits that sort of attitude............ :D The NHS purchasing system is insane to be honest. We do a fair bit of work for the NHS probably ammounting to about 300k per year. Unfortunately we aren't an approved supplier so officially we can't work for them. The thing is though we've been doing this particular type of work there for years and the trust in quetion want us to carry on doing so. To get around it we do the work and invoice it through an approved company who just add 7% to every invoice. GG 21k of the NHS' money just for processing 12 invoices per year. You have to wonder how many others are doing exactly the same thing and how much it must cost. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 21, 2010, 01:06:17 AM ^^^ Meh I can't disagree with much of that tbh. We all need to sort our own shit out and rely less on others. I sell drugs into the NHS and I see the wastage in the NHS day in day out, they do a lot good stuff but they are damn good wasting money too. At the moment I've got a new drug that is pretty much the same as the competition but we are a LOT cheaper, about three quarters of hospitals have done the right thing and switched to ours. The others are 'Well we know we should, but we can't be arsed because it doesn't come out of our budget so we don't care' rotflmfao. Really get on my tits that sort of attitude............ :D The NHS purchasing system is insane to be honest. We do a fair bit of work for the NHS probably ammounting to about 300k per year. Unfortunately we aren't an approved supplier so officially we can't work for them. The thing is though we've been doing this particular type of work there for years and the trust in quetion want us to carry on doing so. To get around it we do the work and invoice it through an approved company who just add 7% to every invoice. GG 21k of the NHS' money just for processing 12 invoices per year. You have to wonder how many others are doing exactly the same thing and how much it must cost. I could save them about 100k spread through 3 different hospitals in about an hour, talk about ;frustrated; Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: EvilPie on October 21, 2010, 01:08:54 AM Might be ignorant but if you're unemployed are you not better of living up North where stuff is cheaper. Especially rent. Anyone got a picture of a nail being smacked on it's head that I can borrow? Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Laxie on October 21, 2010, 03:23:25 AM Meanwhile I'm whammied all over the shop. From day one I was told - no point applying for Irish citizenship as I was allowed live here based on my marriage. Then 9/11 happened and suddenly I wasn't allowed live here unless I got my passport stamped each year to say I was married to an Irishman. Fair enough. Now that the marriage is effectively over, I'm not eligible for anything while we must carry on 'as is' for another 2 years before my citizenship application is approved.
And because things weren't already 'fun' enough, I'm not eligible for any assistance (rent, dole or otherwise) despite working and paying taxes for a goodly while when I first moved here because I'm not an Irish citizen. But I can't get a new job now either because all of the potential employers are worried about 'taking sides' in the marriage break up. And round and round it goes. Sighhhhhhhhh Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2010, 05:19:02 AM this is kinda an insensitive post with the greatest respect! there are many people going to lose jobs that will put them in a very difficult financial situaton! But he's hoping it's him, not them. (Or am I missing something?) wow - i take the other line for a change and get picked up on it! nice! your right - fuck em all - they have all got whats coming to em ! Had an easy life working for govt bodies for too long - get out in to the real world and learn about commercial pressures, and see how many sick days they will tollerate! That any better tom? LOL, Guy getting all over sensitive, and completely missing the point of the OP. If he'd posted he'd got a new job that paid 10k a year more, would that be insensitive to others who haven't just got a new job? If someone posts they have won some monies at the pokers, does that mean they're being insensitive to others who've not? Maybe even the fact they're playing a tournament that someone else isn't rolled for is insensitive? Someone posted recently about getting a new company car, was that insensitive too? On a different note, if anyone wants a job where they can turn work down, train yourself up as a .NET developer. We've had contractors working on a project, and three of them have decided they don't fancy the work half way through and have decided they don't need the money. One has just decided to bugger off to New Zealand for two or three months with no warning. Must be nice. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: boldie on October 21, 2010, 09:34:47 AM Or get a job at the nuclear plant in Nottingham...or at Babcock...just so you can say Bab...Cock in a Rowan Atkinson type of way.
I know how tricky the job market is for half decent jobs, I have been applying for jobs outside of my company for years and haven't gotten anywhere simply due to the astonishing nr of applications companies get these days. Jjandelis is lucky in that he is armed forces, plenty of work out there for those guys in certain dodgy parts of the world...in the UK it's fairly tricky though so for anyone else taking redundancy they have to be very careful. If you're single, not tied down by kids or something and can work where ever in the world, it's no problem to get a decent job. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2010, 09:58:19 AM Or get a job at the nuclear plant in Nottingham...or at Babcock...just so you can say Bab...Cock in a Rowan Atkinson type of way. I know how tricky the job market is for half decent jobs, I have been applying for jobs outside of my company for years and haven't gotten anywhere simply due to the astonishing nr of applications companies get these days. Jjandelis is lucky in that he is armed forces, plenty of work out there for those guys in certain dodgy parts of the world...in the UK it's fairly tricky though so for anyone else taking redundancy they have to be very careful. If you're single, not tied down by kids or something and can work where ever in the world, it's no problem to get a decent job. Stop including a photo of yourself with your applications. It's not doing you any favours... Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: boldie on October 21, 2010, 10:15:56 AM Or get a job at the nuclear plant in Nottingham...or at Babcock...just so you can say Bab...Cock in a Rowan Atkinson type of way. I know how tricky the job market is for half decent jobs, I have been applying for jobs outside of my company for years and haven't gotten anywhere simply due to the astonishing nr of applications companies get these days. Jjandelis is lucky in that he is armed forces, plenty of work out there for those guys in certain dodgy parts of the world...in the UK it's fairly tricky though so for anyone else taking redundancy they have to be very careful. If you're single, not tied down by kids or something and can work where ever in the world, it's no problem to get a decent job. Stop including a photo of yourself with your applications. It's not doing you any favours... Very harsh...that made me cry a little. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2010, 10:18:45 AM Or get a job at the nuclear plant in Nottingham...or at Babcock...just so you can say Bab...Cock in a Rowan Atkinson type of way. I know how tricky the job market is for half decent jobs, I have been applying for jobs outside of my company for years and haven't gotten anywhere simply due to the astonishing nr of applications companies get these days. Jjandelis is lucky in that he is armed forces, plenty of work out there for those guys in certain dodgy parts of the world...in the UK it's fairly tricky though so for anyone else taking redundancy they have to be very careful. If you're single, not tied down by kids or something and can work where ever in the world, it's no problem to get a decent job. Stop including a photo of yourself with your applications. It's not doing you any favours... Very harsh...that made me cry a little. Think about the people doing the recruiting. How do you think they feel?! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: TheChipPrince on October 21, 2010, 10:19:58 AM Whats the government minimum you get for being made redundant now?
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: boldie on October 21, 2010, 10:35:37 AM Or get a job at the nuclear plant in Nottingham...or at Babcock...just so you can say Bab...Cock in a Rowan Atkinson type of way. I know how tricky the job market is for half decent jobs, I have been applying for jobs outside of my company for years and haven't gotten anywhere simply due to the astonishing nr of applications companies get these days. Jjandelis is lucky in that he is armed forces, plenty of work out there for those guys in certain dodgy parts of the world...in the UK it's fairly tricky though so for anyone else taking redundancy they have to be very careful. If you're single, not tied down by kids or something and can work where ever in the world, it's no problem to get a decent job. Stop including a photo of yourself with your applications. It's not doing you any favours... Very harsh...that made me cry a little. Think about the people doing the recruiting. How do you think they feel?! rotflmfao.... I was hoping they'd hire me out of sympathy..or some sort of "care in the community" program Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: gatso on October 21, 2010, 10:41:36 AM at least leave the photo off of the supermarket applications boldie. as soon as they see it they'll know you won't be able to reach the top shelves and that you'll constanly be dropping hair in the cream buns
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: boldie on October 21, 2010, 11:02:18 AM at least leave the photo off of the supermarket applications boldie. as soon as they see it they'll know you won't be able to reach the top shelves and that you'll constanly be dropping hair in the cream buns I have only been applying for supermarket jobs at Lidl (No chance a high brow supermarket like ASDA or ALDI would hire someone like me) and everything there is just lying on the floor so would have hoped that that would have been OK..but it's good advice as that might have been holding me back. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Acidmouse on October 21, 2010, 02:55:18 PM its not a new trend having lots of people applying for jobs. My first job was an Apprenticeship at British gas 20 places 8000+ applied, this was in '94. Around the same time I tried to get job at BT about 6000+ applied for 3 jobs.
I walked through town today on my way to work and lots of shops both small and large need staff part time/ fulltime. When I graduated in 2000 i went to work in Morrissons until I got my graduate position elesewhere, I learnt so much during my time there, got my hands dirty, worked under totally fukwits and had to bite my lip daily, but I am so glad I did it, the experience makes me happy every day I don't have to stack shelves and deal with idiots. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Alverton on October 21, 2010, 03:09:10 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: celtic on October 21, 2010, 03:27:55 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Alverton on October 21, 2010, 03:30:11 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: celtic on October 21, 2010, 03:42:51 PM Look hard enough and you will find one.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 21, 2010, 03:44:03 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Ideal time to get a job IMO!! Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 21, 2010, 03:45:17 PM Look hard enough and you will find one. Should get off blonde and facebook and get on some jobsites!!! ;) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: celtic on October 21, 2010, 03:48:43 PM Girgy for PM.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: GreekStein on October 21, 2010, 04:20:25 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Where do you live? rly not hard to find one Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Jon MW on October 21, 2010, 04:21:17 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Ideal time to get a job IMO!! Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard! As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job. Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 21, 2010, 04:31:06 PM Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: GreekStein on October 21, 2010, 04:33:43 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Ideal time to get a job IMO!! Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard! As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job. Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better. there are several places that dont care People are just full of excuses. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Jon MW on October 21, 2010, 06:37:42 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Ideal time to get a job IMO!! Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard! As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job. Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better. there are several places that dont care People are just full of excuses. In my experience, along with several people I know, there are several places that do care and there are some places that don't. Basically the places where turnover is so high that it doesn't matter what experience or qualifications you've got because nobody from any background stays around for long; catering and call centres spring to mind as good examples. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Woodsey on October 21, 2010, 06:39:23 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Ideal time to get a job IMO!! Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard! As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job. Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better. there are several places that dont care People are just full of excuses. Yup, aslo some of the shit jobs with high applicant numbers are from people who have to go to interviews or they lose their benefit. Many simply have no intention of taking the job or not turning up for the interview etc Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Delboy on October 21, 2010, 06:45:37 PM Whats the government minimum you get for being made redundant now? http://www.direct.gov.uk/redundancy.dsb Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Alverton on October 21, 2010, 06:55:29 PM I have 2 interviews tomorrow, I had 1 today. I'll tell them tomorrow that the people from the internet have told me that if I look hard enough, I'll find one.
Xmas jobs are plenty and I have one lined up for middle of Nov for 8 weeks, doesn't change the fact that I want to work 9 weeks onwards. I did at one point enjoy sitting on my high horse telling my friends/brother its not hard, stop making excuses and being lazy. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: redsimon on October 21, 2010, 07:04:10 PM I have 2 interviews tomorrow, I had 1 today. I'll tell them tomorrow that the people from the internet have told me that if I look hard enough, I'll find one. Xmas jobs are plenty and I have one lined up for middle of Nov for 8 weeks, doesn't change the fact that I want to work 9 weeks onwards. I did at one point enjoy sitting on my high horse telling my friends/brother its not hard, stop making excuses and being lazy. gl Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: technolog on October 21, 2010, 07:39:27 PM Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: celtic on October 21, 2010, 07:54:00 PM I have 2 interviews tomorrow, I had 1 today. I'll tell them tomorrow that the people from the internet have told me that if I look hard enough, I'll find one. Xmas jobs are plenty and I have one lined up for middle of Nov for 8 weeks, doesn't change the fact that I want to work 9 weeks onwards. I did at one point enjoy sitting on my high horse telling my friends/brother its not hard, stop making excuses and being lazy. Lol with humour like that you can't fail to get to get a job. Very best of luck tomorrow and for the future. I wasnt getting on my high horse or my low horse for that. I was merely talking from experience of trying to find work, any work s9 that I could try to keep a roof over my head. It wasn't easy but its achievable if people put the effort in. Fwiw I'm still in a shitty low paid job that I hate. Lack of motivation has kept me there, but I plan on doing something about it very soon. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: pleno1 on October 21, 2010, 10:54:58 PM gl tomorrow, run good.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: sofa----king on October 22, 2010, 12:12:56 AM My only advice on this matter
is surley use your head and work for yourself try it u never know u might like it and get a few quid out of it good luck on whatever happens but think positive and more so be positive Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 22, 2010, 01:04:34 AM My only advice on this matter is surley use your head and work for yourself try it u never know u might like it and get a few quid out of it good luck on whatever happens but think positive and more so be positive Working for yourself is the nuts! Cept wen ur ill u dont get paid :( or when u want a holiday theres no holiday pay :( Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: sofa----king on October 22, 2010, 01:15:11 AM My only advice on this matter is surley use your head and work for yourself try it u never know u might like it and get a few quid out of it good luck on whatever happens but think positive and more so be positive Working for yourself is the nuts! Cept wen ur ill u dont get paid :( or when u want a holiday theres no holiday pay :( when its good live life to the max,,when its not so good pull the belt in,,,and wait for the good times they do come..,. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on October 22, 2010, 01:26:33 AM My only advice on this matter is surley use your head and work for yourself try it u never know u might like it and get a few quid out of it good luck on whatever happens but think positive and more so be positive Working for yourself is the nuts! Cept wen ur ill u dont get paid :( or when u want a holiday theres no holiday pay :( when its good live life to the max,,when its not so good pull the belt in,,,and wait for the good times they do come..,. Amen brother! Ive always worked since i was 17. I think Ive been on jobseekers twice but have always looked for work! Ive always earned just enough money to get by, run a car the odd luxury. Granted Ive pretty much lived at home apart from 4 years i shared a flat with my mate. Ive always had to be tight with the brass but now I'm a self employed taxi driver I'm doing orate for myself. Hours are long but if you wanna earn decent money these days u gotta put the shifts in! Like sofa says the good times always come in the end and things always seam to work out well for people! Stay positive people and your job will come soon enough!! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: taximan007 on October 22, 2010, 07:28:05 PM On my return to the UK as many of you know I walked in to an agency to look for work, there were 6 of us there at the same time myself, 3 polish lads and 2 English men around my age whom had the look of middle management types, we were ALL offered work in the Pizza factory myself and the Polish boys snapped the agency guys hand off the 2 Englishmen turned it down, what annoyed me was the attitude and the language they used in refusing the work, they were in an agency advetising non - skilled work WHAT were they expecting???
Peoples circumstances are always different, i HAD to work to survive so no choice, and being 'single' the wage wasn't a dominating factor I appreciate that. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: MANTIS01 on October 23, 2010, 12:18:01 PM If the job market is ultra competetive what are you doing to get an edge? Just applying for shit menial jobs with hundreds of other lowly skilled applicants is rather pointless isn't it? It's hard to beat those numbers and if you do manage to stand out from the crowd the prize is one shit job. Why not investigate areas where demand isn't so high? then use your free time to go to college, or learn those skills at home. Maybe supplement the skills you do have with additional qualifications. Furthermore you can seek out volunteer work placements for a day or two a week to gain practical experience in your chosen area.
Employers will put emphasis on things like character, personality and willingness to learn during any job application. Personally I have employed many people who have made this sort of effort because it demonstrates a stand-out determination and drive in one's character. And you need stand-out qualities to get ahead in a competetive market no? It also shows a deeper commitment to do the job you're applying for. If you just waste your time, don't go the extra mile to be where you want to be, and apply for shit jobs it is unlikely to solve any long-term employment issues you have imo. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: redarmi on October 24, 2010, 11:27:28 PM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Ideal time to get a job IMO!! Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard! As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job. Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better. Can confirm this. First time I had to hire for crappy jobs I went for the best qualified candidates. BIG mistake because they were constantly looking for ways to get promoted, move up and weren't really interested in doing the job I had hired them for. Out of 12 that I hired 6 had moved onto better roles withing 6 months and the only one that was really any good was a lady who I had hired because, whilst she was qualified, she had spent years out bringing up her kids and now just wanted a reatively menial job to get some pocket money and had zero ambition. Some jobs simply don't suit the ambitious. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: MANTIS01 on October 25, 2010, 12:09:30 AM Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work. Sure is. I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then. I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now. Ideal time to get a job IMO!! Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard! As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job. Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better. Can confirm this. First time I had to hire for crappy jobs I went for the best qualified candidates. BIG mistake because they were constantly looking for ways to get promoted, move up and weren't really interested in doing the job I had hired them for. Out of 12 that I hired 6 had moved onto better roles withing 6 months and the only one that was really any good was a lady who I had hired because, whilst she was qualified, she had spent years out bringing up her kids and now just wanted a reatively menial job to get some pocket money and had zero ambition. Some jobs simply don't suit the ambitious. Yeah well when I hire somebody I DO select the hardest working, most experienced and most qualified person. This tends to deliver the best results for a business. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your employees having ambition and wanting to progress and it should be something you encourage rather than deter. They aren't performing in the job because they're constantly looking for ways to get promoted? I would be happy to reveal the best way to get promoted to save them constantly looking. Do this job well. If 6 out of 12 people you hire get promoted that's a development record to be proud of imo. Better to have the ambitious type than the complacent type who's happy to languish in a crappy job for the rest of eternity. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: EvilPie on October 25, 2010, 12:20:19 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.
The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Eso Kral on October 25, 2010, 12:25:44 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff. The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager??? Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: gatso on October 25, 2010, 01:25:29 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff. The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager??? Pie Man ldo Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on October 25, 2010, 01:27:57 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff. The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager??? Pie Man ldo He already is Pie Man ;dingdell; Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: StuartHopkin on October 25, 2010, 01:30:48 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff. The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager??? Pie Man ldo He already is Pie Man ;dingdell; Sure is, this is Pie Man (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/wallpapers/episodes/PieMan_1024.gif) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: kinboshi on October 25, 2010, 01:45:36 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff. The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. The problem in lots of cases is that people don't tailor their CV/cover letter for the specific job. Every job you apply for should have a unique CV and cover letter that is focused on that specific role and company. No use having a 'one size fits all' CV, as you'll probably find that it actually doesn't fit anyone that well. I know that this is more difficult with some job sites and if you're going through an agency. But hard work in getting your introduction right can make the world of difference, especially in a competitive market. Being on the other side of recruitment it's very easy to dismiss a 'vague' CV and short-list one that looks like it's tailored towards the actual role you've advertised. What is the saying... "you don't get a second chance at a first impression"? So very true when a recruiter is looking for reasons to eliminate candidates to put together a short-list for interviews. As for going for work that you think you're over-qualified for, again tailor your CV so that it puts you across as the ideal candidate for the role. Be creative where necessary (exaggerate some points, omit others) but try not to lie. That won't do you any good long-term (unless you're a bloody good liar). Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: RED-DOG on October 25, 2010, 01:57:57 PM I'm not a good liar.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on October 25, 2010, 02:06:52 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff. The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager??? Pie Man ldo He already is Pie Man ;dingdell; Sure is, this is Pie Man (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/wallpapers/episodes/PieMan_1024.gif) LOL,I will get one over Gatso one day. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: gatso on October 25, 2010, 02:12:19 PM that could be matt, we'll never know unless we see him without the mask
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: TightPaulFolds on October 25, 2010, 02:18:33 PM I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff. The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working? The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education. They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great. I should be PM. The problem in lots of cases is that people don't tailor their CV/cover letter for the specific job. Every job you apply for should have a unique CV and cover letter that is focused on that specific role and company. No use having a 'one size fits all' CV, as you'll probably find that it actually doesn't fit anyone that well. I know that this is more difficult with some job sites and if you're going through an agency. But hard work in getting your introduction right can make the world of difference, especially in a competitive market. Being on the other side of recruitment it's very easy to dismiss a 'vague' CV and short-list one that looks like it's tailored towards the actual role you've advertised. What is the saying... "you don't get a second chance at a first impression"? So very true when a recruiter is looking for reasons to eliminate candidates to put together a short-list for interviews. As for going for work that you think you're over-qualified for, again tailor your CV so that it puts you across as the ideal candidate for the role. Be creative where necessary (exaggerate some points, omit others) but try not to lie. That won't do you any good long-term (unless you're a bloody good liar). -> You don't get a second chance to make a good first impression. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on November 02, 2010, 04:25:53 PM After the way this thread started going I initially wished I hadn't bothered posting on it. Glad I did now, however, as as a result I got a PM when the thread was live from someone who had a job going at their place that might not need to be advertised if I was interested in taking it. A few phone calls and meetings later, and I'm starting next Monday :)
I won't name my new boss publically in case he doesn't want me to, but thank you :) and thanks to Dewi for starting the thread that made it happen:) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: roscopiko on November 02, 2010, 04:28:18 PM After the way this thread started going I initially wished I hadn't bothered posting on it. Glad I did now, however, as as a result I got a PM when the thread was live from someone who had a job going at their place that might not need to be advertised if I was interested in taking it. A few phone calls and meetings later, and I'm starting next Monday :) I won't name my new boss publically in case he doesn't want me to, but thank you :) and thanks to Dewi for starting the thread that made it happen:) So ironically it actually was a peice of piss to get a job ;) Congrats :) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on November 02, 2010, 04:31:38 PM After the way this thread started going I initially wished I hadn't bothered posting on it. Glad I did now, however, as as a result I got a PM when the thread was live from someone who had a job going at their place that might not need to be advertised if I was interested in taking it. A few phone calls and meetings later, and I'm starting next Monday :) I won't name my new boss publically in case he doesn't want me to, but thank you :) and thanks to Dewi for starting the thread that made it happen:) So ironically it actually was a peice of piss to get a job ;) Congrats :) easy when it's not advertised and you're the only candidate :D Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: kinboshi on November 02, 2010, 05:18:13 PM Nice one Claire.
:)up Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: GreekStein on November 02, 2010, 05:18:43 PM Wd Claire grats on the new job. vbol with it
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: mondatoo on November 02, 2010, 05:48:30 PM Thread delivers,congrats Claire glgl.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2010, 06:07:45 PM Thread delivers,congrats Claire glgl. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: outragous76 on November 02, 2010, 06:12:31 PM Thread delivers,congrats Claire glgl. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Jon MW on November 02, 2010, 06:17:54 PM Thread delivers,congrats Claire glgl. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Laxie on November 02, 2010, 06:19:51 PM Absolutely DELIGHTED for ya Chicka!!! Kudos to the blonde that helped make it happen too!
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Delboy on November 02, 2010, 06:20:34 PM VWP Claire Congrats and good luck :)
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: thetank on November 02, 2010, 09:30:57 PM sausages
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: sovietsong on November 02, 2010, 10:22:11 PM Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: ForthThistle on November 02, 2010, 10:22:26 PM Top Result.
VWD Claire and GLGLGL.. Fair play to the Blonde.. That's the sort of stuff that makes it soooo worthwhile to be part of Blonde!!! Brilliant. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Waz1892 on November 02, 2010, 10:22:48 PM Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: sovietsong on November 02, 2010, 10:25:47 PM (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5Ucx_7IzI1jCMtqvtfhyXb8_IUnw_Ffk0x8EXs80arP1g3mk&t=1&usg=__lMU3qk58MoTKZ8K8Kf8Od-LXMTY=)
Tyrannosaurus rex was one of the largest land carnivores of all time. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: redsimon on November 02, 2010, 10:26:30 PM well done Claire
Is the job updating the scores on Sovietsongs Xfactor game? :) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: sovietsong on November 02, 2010, 10:30:13 PM well done Claire Is the job updating the scores on Sovietsongs Xfactor game? :) I would defo be looking to employ somebody for that position, cash in hand... forget the taxman! Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: EvilPie on November 02, 2010, 11:34:56 PM (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5Ucx_7IzI1jCMtqvtfhyXb8_IUnw_Ffk0x8EXs80arP1g3mk&t=1&usg=__lMU3qk58MoTKZ8K8Kf8Od-LXMTY=) Tyrannosaurus rex was one of the largest land carnivores of all time. Flush beats straight. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Dewi_cool on November 03, 2010, 02:25:45 AM After the way this thread started going I initially wished I hadn't bothered posting on it. Glad I did now, however, as as a result I got a PM when the thread was live from someone who had a job going at their place that might not need to be advertised if I was interested in taking it. A few phone calls and meetings later, and I'm starting next Monday :) I won't name my new boss publically in case he doesn't want me to, but thank you :) and thanks to Dewi for starting the thread that made it happen:) np Clare & gl in your new job Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Moskvich on November 03, 2010, 03:33:07 AM Congrats, best of luck with it.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: rex008 on November 03, 2010, 08:51:07 AM Great stuff Claire, well done. This is why I like blonde, fantastic stuff. Well done to anon.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: kinboshi on November 03, 2010, 09:45:51 AM Great stuff Claire, well done. This is why I like blonde, fantastic stuff. Well done to anon. Is it the same anon who plays at DTD? :dontask: Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: ripple11 on November 03, 2010, 10:08:27 AM Brilliant news! gl gl Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Lucky on November 03, 2010, 10:48:30 AM After the way this thread started going I initially wished I hadn't bothered posting on it. Glad I did now, however, as as a result I got a PM when the thread was live from someone who had a job going at their place that might not need to be advertised if I was interested in taking it. A few phone calls and meetings later, and I'm starting next Monday :) I won't name my new boss publically in case he doesn't want me to, but thank you :) and thanks to Dewi for starting the thread that made it happen:) Well done Claire and good luck with the new job. I'm a believer in making ones own luck - you were clearly in the right place at the right time here to make yours. Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: EvilPie on November 03, 2010, 11:00:37 AM Seems very insensitive to be bragging about a new job on a thread about redundancy, especially when it's so difficult to find work.
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: outragous76 on November 03, 2010, 11:02:07 AM Seems very insensitive to be bragging about a new job on a thread about redundancy, especially when it's so difficult to find work. Too good mr pie, too good Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Girgy85 on November 03, 2010, 12:16:43 PM Seems very insensitive to be bragging about a new job on a thread about redundancy, especially when it's so difficult to find work. Too good mr pie, too good +1 Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: boldie on November 11, 2010, 01:05:13 PM Seems very insensitive to be bragging about a new job on a thread about redundancy, especially when it's so difficult to find work. Too good mr pie, too good +1 +2. Top class Mr Pie Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: pleno1 on November 11, 2010, 03:34:00 PM whats the job?
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Claw75 on November 12, 2010, 12:38:20 AM whats the job? working for a cleaning/catering contractor Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: byronkincaid on November 15, 2010, 09:09:06 AM anyone know where I can get an application form to become a somali pirate?
Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: Dewi_cool on November 15, 2010, 04:28:40 PM After the way this thread started going I initially wished I hadn't bothered posting on it. Glad I did now, however, as as a result I got a PM when the thread was live from someone who had a job going at their place that might not need to be advertised if I was interested in taking it. A few phone calls and meetings later, and I'm starting next Monday :) I won't name my new boss publically in case he doesn't want me to, but thank you :) and thanks to Dewi for starting the thread that made it happen:) Ahem, ahem!!!! Can I get my 5% recruitment fee please :-D Congrats this is cracking news and really brought a smile to my face. You been away too long Lee, I start all the threads on here & I waive my fee ;) Title: Re: Redundancy Post by: KingPoker on April 07, 2011, 01:14:43 AM WD Claire :kiss:
That's the only good thing to come out of this thread.....the rest is just filled with BS!!! :) |