Redundancy

[sofa----king]

My only advice on this matter
is surley use your head and work for yourself
try it u never know u might like it and get a few quid
out of it
good luck on whatever happens
but think positive and more so be positive

Working for yourself is the nuts! Cept wen ur ill u dont get paid or when u want a holiday theres no holiday pay

ii been lucky ive never worked for anyone since i was 14,ok some weeks are so good its unreal,but also i do have bad runs where things are not so good...
when its good live life to the max,,when its not so good pull the belt in,,,and wait for the good times they do come..,.

[Girgy85]

My only advice on this matter
is surley use your head and work for yourself
try it u never know u might like it and get a few quid
out of it
good luck on whatever happens
but think positive and more so be positive

Working for yourself is the nuts! Cept wen ur ill u dont get paid or when u want a holiday theres no holiday pay

ii been lucky Ive never worked for anyone since i was 14,ok some weeks are so good its unreal,but also i do have bad runs where things are not so good...
when its good live life to the max,,when its not so good pull the belt in,,,and wait for the good times they do come..,.

Amen brother!

Ive always worked since i was 17. I think Ive been on jobseekers twice but have always looked for work! Ive always earned just enough money to get by, run a car the odd luxury. Granted Ive pretty much lived at home apart from 4 years i shared a flat with my mate. Ive always had to be tight with the brass but now I'm a self employed taxi driver I'm doing orate for myself. Hours are long but if you wanna earn decent money these days u gotta put the shifts in! Like sofa says the good times always come in the end and things always seam to work out well for people! Stay positive people and your job will come soon enough!!

[taximan007]

On my return to the UK as many of you know I walked in to an agency to look for work, there were 6 of us there at the same time myself, 3 polish lads and 2 English men around my age whom had the look of middle management types, we were ALL offered work in the Pizza factory myself and the Polish boys snapped the agency guys hand off the 2 Englishmen turned it down, what annoyed me was the attitude and the language they used in refusing the work, they were in an agency advetising non - skilled work WHAT were they expecting???

Peoples circumstances are always different, i HAD to work to survive so no choice, and being 'single' the wage wasn't a dominating factor I appreciate that.

[MANTIS01]

If the job market is ultra competetive what are you doing to get an edge? Just applying for shit menial jobs with hundreds of other lowly skilled applicants is rather pointless isn't it? It's hard to beat those numbers and if you do manage to stand out from the crowd the prize is one shit job. Why not investigate areas where demand isn't so high? then use your free time to go to college, or learn those skills at home. Maybe supplement the skills you do have with additional qualifications. Furthermore you can seek out volunteer work placements for a day or two a week to gain practical experience in your chosen area.

Employers will put emphasis on things like character, personality and willingness to learn during any job application. Personally I have employed many people who have made this sort of effort because it demonstrates a stand-out determination and drive in one's character. And you need stand-out qualities to get ahead in a competetive market no? It also shows a deeper commitment to do the job you're applying for. If you just waste your time, don't go the extra mile to be where you want to be, and apply for shit jobs it is unlikely to solve any long-term employment issues you have imo.

[redarmi]

Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work.

Sure is.

I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then.

I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now.

Ideal time to get a job IMO!!

Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard!

As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job.

Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better.

Can confirm this.  First time I had to hire for crappy jobs I went for the best qualified candidates.  BIG mistake because they were constantly looking for ways to get promoted, move up and weren't really interested in doing the job I had hired them for.  Out of 12 that I hired 6 had moved onto better roles withing 6 months and the only one that was really any good was a lady who I had hired because, whilst she was qualified, she had spent years out bringing up her kids and now just wanted a reatively menial job to get some pocket money and had zero ambition.  Some jobs simply don't suit the ambitious.

[MANTIS01]

Plenty of jobs out there for people that want to work.

Sure is.

I must have just been lucky in finding low paid shit jobs that bore the arse off me then.

I would love a low paid shit job that bores the arse off me, right about now.

Ideal time to get a job IMO!!

Get round all the warehouses and retail shops! Plenty looking for crimbo staff!! This can also lead to full time work if u dig in an work hard!

As I suggested before the hardest working, most experienced, most qualified person for a shit job - isn't necessarily (or even likely) to get the job.

Those types of employers are often specifically looking for people with average to low ambition and intelligence because they know that they're less likely to quit for something better.

Can confirm this.  First time I had to hire for crappy jobs I went for the best qualified candidates.  BIG mistake because they were constantly looking for ways to get promoted, move up and weren't really interested in doing the job I had hired them for.  Out of 12 that I hired 6 had moved onto better roles withing 6 months and the only one that was really any good was a lady who I had hired because, whilst she was qualified, she had spent years out bringing up her kids and now just wanted a reatively menial job to get some pocket money and had zero ambition.  Some jobs simply don't suit the ambitious.

Yeah well when I hire somebody I DO select the hardest working, most experienced and most qualified person. This tends to deliver the best results for a business. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your employees having ambition and wanting to progress and it should be something you encourage rather than deter. They aren't performing in the job because they're constantly looking for ways to get promoted? I would be happy to reveal the best way to get promoted to save them constantly looking. Do this job well.

If 6 out of 12 people you hire get promoted that's a development record to be proud of imo. Better to have the ambitious type than the complacent type who's happy to languish in a crappy job for the rest of eternity.

[EvilPie]

I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.

The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working?

The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education.

They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great.

I should be PM.

[Eso Kral]

I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.

The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working?

The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education.

They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great.

I should be PM.

Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager???

[gatso]

I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.

The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working?

The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education.

They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great.

I should be PM.

Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager???

Pie Man ldo

[mondatoo]

I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.

The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working?

The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education.

They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great.

I should be PM.

Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager???

Pie Man ldo

He already is Pie Man 

[StuartHopkin]

I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.

The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working?

The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education.

They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great.

I should be PM.

Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager???

Pie Man ldo

He already is Pie Man 

Sure is, this is Pie Man

Click to see full-size image.

[kinboshi]

I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.

The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working?

The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education.

They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great.

I should be PM.

The problem in lots of cases is that people don't tailor their CV/cover letter for the specific job.  Every job you apply for should have a unique CV and cover letter that is focused on that specific role and company.  No use having a 'one size fits all' CV, as you'll probably find that it actually doesn't fit anyone that well.  I know that this is more difficult with some job sites and if you're going through an agency.  But hard work in getting your introduction right can make the world of difference, especially in a competitive market.  Being on the other side of recruitment it's very easy to dismiss a 'vague' CV and short-list one that looks like it's tailored towards the actual role you've advertised.  What is the saying... "you don't get a second chance at a first impression"?  So very true when a recruiter is looking for reasons to eliminate candidates to put together a short-list for interviews.

As for going for work that you think you're over-qualified for, again tailor your CV so that it puts you across as the ideal candidate for the role.  Be creative where necessary (exaggerate some points, omit others) but try not to lie.  That won't do you any good long-term (unless you're a bloody good liar).

[RED-DOG]

I'm not a good liar.

[mondatoo]

I've just had skim read of the last page or two of this and it's brilliant stuff.

The general consensus I got is that everybody is too clever to be working?

The government's new spending review is clearly a big f**k up. All they needed to do was cancel all spending on education.

They would've solved the deficit crisis within a year and concurrently everybody would've been able to get jobs and everything would be great.

I should be PM.

Personal Masseuse/ Player Manager???

Pie Man ldo

He already is Pie Man 

Sure is, this is Pie Man

Click to see full-size image.

LOL,I will get one over Gatso one day.

[gatso]

that could be matt, we'll never know unless we see him without the mask