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Approaching late stages of £30 freezeout , i shove with Ac 8d and get called by  Aspades Jc who has me covered.

Board reads  Ks Qh  5d 2c 5h , theres a cheer by the lady holding Aspades Jc and the other locals on the table. The dealer quickly gathers the cards and starts pushing all the chips towards the lady.

I immediately say its a split pot with one neutral guy agreeing , however the dealer and the other locals say its too late as the pot has been awarded.

WTF !! From going on our backs , flopping the board and awarding the chips took under 15 seconds.I ask for a manager and he too says once the cards have been retrieved and awarded the result stands. WTF !!

I can understand if i objected a minute or two later but this was as the chips were being pushed towards the lady.

I don't totally blame the dealer as he had dealt the same speed all night and on this occasion didn't see the split pot , however the locals all protested against my claim to the split pot.

Was the correct ruling given by the manager ?

What would happen in a higher buy in game like a £1k + game ?

If the board is still in place and your cards have been tabled it's an awful ruling

I'm tilted for you.

Never play there again?!

Name and shame please.

Where did this wanky ruling occur?

shocking, the cards had been tabled right? The dealer should have left the cards face up, split the pot, job done.

It is bad, and once cards have been tabled and I'd imagine everyone at the table can confirm the "losing" hand that was killed, it should be a simple enough task to confirm the mucked hand with the dealer, admit a mistake was made, and split the pot, as both hands have been shown.

Is this in a licenced casino? I doubt it. Pub poker? Snooker club?

The pot being awarded isn't too late. It's only too late when the next hand begins (first riffle).

Cards were tabled. Cards speak. End of.

Absolutely terrible ruling. Name and shame!

Disagree. Pot can't be awarded after board is destroyed imo

Disagree. If everyone agrees on the board, the tabled hands and that a significant mistake has been made then the equitable/fair/right ruling should be made.

I think you need to actually have the board cards and players cards still intact and open.  You can't just try and get a consensus from the players and railers on what the board was even if it's clearly the wrong ruling.  It's amazing how quickly you can forget what cards were on the board.  You'd have people disagreeing about what was actually on it, so unless you speak up before the dealers has collapsed it I think you just have to accept it.

Cf talks sense here imo (unlike during the RSQ)

the following quotes are from your last 15 posts only so I'm sure there are many more. you really need to look into playing in places that aren't populated by and run by morons

I dont think the board and cards need to be intact providing that there is an agreement on the contents of both and they can still be retrieved (ie board and cards are dead but all still in a pile, prob with burn cards, but not in muck)

Surely when the cards are on there back everyone must of seen them an could all vouch what they were an the board were an the right ruling would be made an common sense would prevsail ?

They can even be all mixed together. As long as the dealer can verify the board/hands we can fix this. If not then you're probably screwed. Unless there's a camera on the table, but i'm guessing there isn't.

The fact that the locals are arguing that it can't be changed because the pot has been awarded rather than not being sure on the cards suggests full well they know it's a split pot.

Huh? Totally blame the dealer. Being able to read a 5 card poker hand is the most basic skill a dealer could need. If he can't even do that right.... Mistakes can happen sure, but it sounds like he needs to slow down a bit.


The same rules apply. Don't play a £1k event at this venue obv.

Mark Trett?!

argue louder imo

where was this?

Its not my intention to name and shame any individual or venue , although i will state it was a Grosvenor and not a pub game.

Seems to be a mixture of opinion here , no clear answer .

Thinking about it more , the dealer has more blame on his shoulders . Am i right in thinking dealers should announce the winning hand and pass the chips before gathering the cards ?

I don't really see that much of a mixture of opinion.  Isn't everyone saying the ruling is terrible?

l
ol no surprise there

err, there's a very clear answer. It was the wrong ruling. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

sheffield G probably ,the worst poker manager ever .

Yeah everyone agrees ruling is terrible.

You should say where imo - maybe the cardroom manager will see this and decide to learn the rules of the game

Other locals need to GTFO, I see it all the time where the regs gang up and tilt the opinions of dealers and TD's - it's BS and I would really kick up a fuss but its hard cos it can be a tad intimidating.


Get anther manager


You should blame him, it's his fault. However it is the person in charge's fault 3x.


No, not even a contentious issue its 100% wrong and i you can get a PRO TD who has a clue to disagree with me then il put my face through my monitor.
If I was you here I'd be demanding my money back and wouldn't be leaving the casino without it.


The guy;s in charge are proffesionals and not just pit bosses and roulette dealers covering a shift in the cardroom.

Name and Shame Venue on here, hopefully they will see it and do something to rectify the situation. gl and VVUL

The ideal procedure should be to move the relevant board cards forward, muck the losing hand, pass the pot to the winner and then muck everything. 

why asked questions and not named the person or places occurred?

r u scared of being banned or what?

By not naming and shaming, you are making other forum members guess which Grosvenor Casino is involved. IMO that you should speak out and inform the members to be wary of visiting, Grosvenor ................?