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Title: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2010, 04:53:30 PM
Another odd one, but new owners with big ideas I suppose



Thoughts on betting market for replacement...over to you!


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 13, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Pardew


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: outragous76 on December 13, 2010, 04:58:29 PM
Sigh

Football management is a funny old game! One I will never understand!



Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
"decision taken as part of our ambitions and wider plans for the club"

a big name lined up?


already rumours of Big Sam to WHUFC


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: paulhouk03 on December 13, 2010, 05:03:39 PM
wow madness


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Josedinho on December 13, 2010, 05:03:49 PM
Jol?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 05:04:33 PM
Jol?

this.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 13, 2010, 05:09:08 PM
hughton?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: pleno1 on December 13, 2010, 05:09:46 PM
wtfffffffffffff


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Horneris on December 13, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
Worse decision than Newcastles last week imo.

They should move heaven and earth to get O'Neil imo, he might be tempted if they promise him the world to spend.



Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: scotty2hatty on December 13, 2010, 05:18:47 PM
sad face


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Karabiner on December 13, 2010, 05:22:50 PM
Megson must be nailed-on.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Alverton on December 13, 2010, 05:35:51 PM

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Alverton on December 13, 2010, 05:54:11 PM
Megson must be nailed-on.

I hope not, just going sideways.



Surely with new owners (and not hating the club yet i.e Mike Ashley) making decisons like this they'll have someone lined up already?  Jol, or O'Neill


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Div on December 13, 2010, 06:34:58 PM
At least this will give Big Sam a little holiday before he takes over at Man Utd/Real Madrid/England


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Robert HM on December 13, 2010, 07:21:13 PM
He should never had left Notts County.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Karabiner on December 13, 2010, 07:34:09 PM
I feel really really sorry for the slobbering walrus-chopped **** ;woohoo;


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: The Baron on December 13, 2010, 08:14:57 PM
At least this will give Big Sam a little holiday before he takes over at Man Utd/Real Madrid/England

Larve it


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2010, 08:16:22 PM
Phil Brown seen in the Ewood car park wearing a turban and declaring a love for Bhangra, Shilpa Shetty and Slumdog Millionaire


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: ChipRich on December 13, 2010, 09:01:54 PM
terrible decision

Just read this from before this weekends fixtures:

Twelve points from six games puts Blackburn fourth in the Barclays Premier League form table


What more does he have to do!


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: mondatoo on December 13, 2010, 10:14:09 PM
Worse decision than Newcastles last week imo.

They should move heaven and earth to get O'Neil imo, he might be tempted if they promise him the world to spend.



Sure is


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: maldini32 on December 13, 2010, 10:25:46 PM
I think the new owners want a manager that doesn't get everyone to launch the ball into orbit every game.

I've never rated Allardyce and if Capello is recommending him as the future England manager gg England qualifying majors.

The Hughton sacking was miles worse.

Also Hodgson's a lucky man atm considering were only 1 point ahead of Blackburn.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: scotty2hatty on December 13, 2010, 10:28:38 PM
I think the new owners want a manager that doesn't get everyone to launch the ball into orbit every game.

This is a misperception about Blackburn. Just sayin'


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: maldini32 on December 13, 2010, 10:40:26 PM
I think the new owners want a manager that doesn't get everyone to launch the ball into orbit every game.

This is a misperception about Blackburn. Just sayin'

not for sam allardyce teams, sticking a  6ft 8 centre half up front when u have recognised centre forwards on the bench isn't conducive for free flowing football


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Horneris on December 13, 2010, 11:21:46 PM
It depends what you are looking for in your football club Maldini.

The style of football that Allardyce and Pulis play will keep their sides in the premiership without too much danger. It will not entertain the fans or owners, but they will continue to survive and possibly thrive as a Premiership club. The style of football that good sides play (and you can include the likes of Bolton and West Brom in this) can not be implemented with the sort of ability of player that Blackburn and Stoke currently hold. West Ham and Wigan are proving as much. People say Blackpool are an exception to this rule but i'm not convinced their football is that good, they are just fantastically motivated and driven by a great manager with the tag of ultimate underdogs and nothing to lose.

If Blackburn's new owners are prepared to invest a hell of a lot of money to bring in the sort of player that can produce good football then fair enough re: the decision. But its an extremely risky move to sack Big Sam at this point in the season rather than at the end. It is their prerogative to do so if they want to be entertained but its such a gamble with the clubs future to do it now. They could go down if the wrong man is appointed.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: mondatoo on December 13, 2010, 11:25:00 PM
There's a big difference between new owners coming in and changing manager because they don't like his style which is totally acceptable to sacking a manager who'd done a good job and replacing him with a manager who has done nothing to suggest he's better than the man he replaced other than he's the owners mate,not really sure how it's even close tbh.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2010, 11:29:15 PM
Tomorrow's tabloids have the Blackburn owners wanting Maradona as the new manager


Apart from the LOL factor, there is a huge disconnect between what the new overseas owners want at these clubs and what historically has kept them in the Premier League. Presumably large amounts of sustained cash from these owners will overcome the huge hijacking of the cultures of these clubs



Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Karabiner on December 13, 2010, 11:41:00 PM
Is the 31,000 capacity not a bit of a stumbling-block to lofty aspirations?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: mondatoo on December 13, 2010, 11:43:19 PM
Is the 31,000 capacity not a bit of a stumbling-block to lofty aspirations?

We get 50,000 when we hate the owner and that doesn't seem to entice anyone decent to want us so maybe they have a different requirement ?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2010, 11:45:40 PM
Is the 31,000 capacity not a bit of a stumbling-block to lofty aspirations?


not if the new owners are prepared to accept annual trading losses. Of course if that ever ends, the club can be stuffed. A bit like Chelsea will be if Abramovic ever has had enougg.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2010, 12:21:31 AM
lol Allardyce wanted Robbie keane in Jan, the owners told him to buy Kris Boyd and Geovanni  :D


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: The Baron on December 14, 2010, 12:55:01 AM
It depends what you are looking for in your football club Maldini.

The style of football that Allardyce and Pulis play will keep their sides in the premiership without too much danger. It will not entertain the fans or owners, but they will continue to survive and possibly thrive as a Premiership club. The style of football that good sides play (and you can include the likes of Bolton and West Brom in this) can not be implemented with the sort of ability of player that Blackburn and Stoke currently hold. West Ham and Wigan are proving as much. People say Blackpool are an exception to this rule but i'm not convinced their football is that good, they are just fantastically motivated and driven by a great manager with the tag of ultimate underdogs and nothing to lose.

If Blackburn's new owners are prepared to invest a hell of a lot of money to bring in the sort of player that can produce good football then fair enough re: the decision. But its an extremely risky move to sack Big Sam at this point in the season rather than at the end. It is their prerogative to do so if they want to be entertained but its such a gamble with the clubs future to do it now. They could go down if the wrong man is appointed.

I agree with this analysis in the main but only to the point where Fat Sam stops getting my praise as he has never produced another style. A few nice touches from Okocha aside (and Djorkaeff) and what evidence is there that Sam can do anything else?

Far more kudos to Coyle, Di Matteo, Holloway etc imo


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: maldini32 on December 14, 2010, 01:17:19 AM
It depends what you are looking for in your football club Maldini.

The style of football that Allardyce and Pulis play will keep their sides in the premiership without too much danger. It will not entertain the fans or owners, but they will continue to survive and possibly thrive as a Premiership club. The style of football that good sides play (and you can include the likes of Bolton and West Brom in this) can not be implemented with the sort of ability of player that Blackburn and Stoke currently hold. West Ham and Wigan are proving as much. People say Blackpool are an exception to this rule but i'm not convinced their football is that good, they are just fantastically motivated and driven by a great manager with the tag of ultimate underdogs and nothing to lose.

If Blackburn's new owners are prepared to invest a hell of a lot of money to bring in the sort of player that can produce good football then fair enough re: the decision. But its an extremely risky move to sack Big Sam at this point in the season rather than at the end. It is their prerogative to do so if they want to be entertained but its such a gamble with the clubs future to do it now. They could go down if the wrong man is appointed.

Nah disagree, You say they will keep their teams up without too much danger, maybe 10 years ago not now. If Blackburn stuck with Allardyce they were going down, losing 7-1 and then a local derby and your team plays shite football cant argue with the owners wanting more. Blackburn fans also seem to be happy he's been sacked.

Blackpool play cracking football, they ARE fantastically motivated but they play attacking football and dont give a shit about reputations. They play a high temp, high pressing game which is working wonders for them atm.

Ill give you the point about the owners having to put a bit of money to improve the quality of football but the team he has now does have the ability to string 5 passes together.


Oh and he's fergies bum chum which pisses me right off




Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: maldini32 on December 14, 2010, 01:18:35 AM
There's a big difference between new owners coming in and changing manager because they don't like his style which is totally acceptable to sacking a manager who'd done a good job and replacing him with a manager who has done nothing to suggest he's better than the man he replaced other than he's the owners mate,not really sure how it's even close tbh.

know idea what that means or what your trying to say


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: mondatoo on December 14, 2010, 01:34:42 AM
There's a big difference between new owners coming in and changing manager because they don't like his style, which is totally acceptable.Sacking a manager who'd done a good job and replacing him with a manager who has done nothing to suggest he's better than the man he replaced other than he's the owners mate is ridic,not really sure how it's even close tbh.

know idea what that means or what your trying to say

FMP


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: maldini32 on December 14, 2010, 01:41:47 AM
There's a big difference between new owners coming in and changing manager because they don't like his style, which is totally acceptable.Sacking a manager who'd done a good job and replacing him with a manager who has done nothing to suggest he's better than the man he replaced other than he's the owners mate is ridic,not really sure how it's even close tbh.

know idea what that means or what your trying to say

FMP

oh ok, im guessing your on about the hughton sacking. Yea that was the dumbest decision of the season by a country mile.

Next manager to go Grant? Hodgson?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: mondatoo on December 14, 2010, 01:46:02 AM
There's a big difference between new owners coming in and changing manager because they don't like his style, which is totally acceptable.Sacking a manager who'd done a good job and replacing him with a manager who has done nothing to suggest he's better than the man he replaced other than he's the owners mate is ridic,not really sure how it's even close tbh.

know idea what that means or what your trying to say

FMP

oh ok, im guessing your on about the hughton sacking. Yea that was the dumbest decision of the season by a country mile.

Next manager to go Grant? Hodgson?

BH said this was worse my post was to that but cba to quote :)

Neither of them will be at there current clubs by the end of the season.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Horneris on December 14, 2010, 06:32:28 AM
If Blackburn stuck with Allardyce they were going down

Million!!!


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Acidmouse on December 14, 2010, 11:26:44 AM
Blackburn are a small club, small crowds and shit players.  Unless they spend vast amounts and get lucky with the people they bring in this will not change. Allardyce saved them when he came in and has been rewarded by some dillusional owners with the sack. Good luck Blackburn the only way is down.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TheChipPrince on December 14, 2010, 11:29:34 AM
This could be out-dated info, but don't Blackburn have the highest ratio of attendance to town/City population?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TheChipPrince on December 14, 2010, 11:30:13 AM
*In the Premier League


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2010, 11:31:17 AM
that's true, and its why buying the club has less upside than buying a club down on its luck where attendances could rocket if the city became energised.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Josedinho on December 14, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
They want a British manager who plays good football and get into the top 5. Who could they attract that gets close to fitting the bill?
Hoddle? McClaren? Hughes? O'Driscoll?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: kinboshi on December 14, 2010, 11:59:00 AM
O'Neill's not working at the mo is he?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TheChipPrince on December 14, 2010, 12:07:06 PM
O'Neill's not working at the mo is he?

I was thinking the other day, I've not heard a word or seen him since he left Villa, vanished!


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2010, 12:10:49 PM
Blackburn Manager Market Update:

 Martin Jol 6.2, Steve Kean 8.8, Alan Curbishley 11, Martin O'Neill 11.5, Dave Jones 13, Diego Maradona 15


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TheChipPrince on December 14, 2010, 12:12:41 PM
Not one of them would do better than SA on the same budget and group of players ready to inherit imo.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Graham C on December 14, 2010, 12:38:35 PM
They want a British manager who plays good football and get into the top 5. Who could they attract that gets close to fitting the bill?
Hoddle? McClaren? Hughes? O'Driscoll?

They do realise they bought Blackburn don't they!  Saying that there's only £5m available for signings when they took over hardly gave Sam a lot to work with.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: brummieboy on December 14, 2010, 02:36:56 PM
They'll offshore it and some random will manage them from India


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Alverton on December 14, 2010, 04:22:30 PM
Not one of them would do better than SA on the same budget and group of players ready to inherit imo.

this x million

fwiw Blackburn wouldn't of gone down this year, but next season without an improved squad would of easily been one of the favs.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2010, 09:55:26 AM
talks with Maradona confirmed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackburn-rovers/8202948/Venkys-reveal-talks-with-Diego-Maradona-about-Blackburn-Rovers-managers-job.html


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: gatso on December 15, 2010, 11:28:28 AM
not bringing anyone in until the summer? can't see it, would be really bizarre if true


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
talks with Maradona confirmed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackburn-rovers/8202948/Venkys-reveal-talks-with-Diego-Maradona-about-Blackburn-Rovers-managers-job.html

They know maradonna isn't British right?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: AndrewT on December 15, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
talks with Maradona confirmed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackburn-rovers/8202948/Venkys-reveal-talks-with-Diego-Maradona-about-Blackburn-Rovers-managers-job.html

They know maradonna isn't British right?

I think after the Hand of God he became an honorary Scotsman.


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: boldie on December 15, 2010, 12:09:44 PM
They want a British manager who plays good football and get into the top 5. Who could they attract that gets close to fitting the bill?
Hoddle? McClaren? Hughes? O'Driscoll?

They do realise they bought Blackburn don't they!  Saying that there's only £5m available for signings when they took over hardly gave Sam a lot to work with.


they do think it should be a top 4/5 club...surely 30k attendance and £5mill spending kitty is enough?


Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: Alverton on December 15, 2010, 03:01:02 PM
talks with Maradona confirmed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackburn-rovers/8202948/Venkys-reveal-talks-with-Diego-Maradona-about-Blackburn-Rovers-managers-job.html

Karma, it'll teach me for mocking others instability, joke decisions and Scottish football. 

It'll be fun at least.



Title: Re: Allardyce leaves Blackburn
Post by: boldie on December 15, 2010, 03:09:42 PM
Surely Maradonna will just tell them to feck off?