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Title: joke or insult Post by: outragous76 on April 27, 2011, 04:40:34 PM ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13211577 Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: millidonk on April 27, 2011, 04:49:45 PM Joke imo. If she wants to take it any further she will wake up with two black eyes, what is she doing that far out of the kitchen anyway etc etc.... I don't mind Cameron but I hate Political Correctness gone mad.
Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: Woodsey on April 27, 2011, 04:59:03 PM Lol the PC brigade can GTFO.......
Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: DaveShoelace on April 27, 2011, 05:07:15 PM joke, not a funny joke, but an attempt at one
Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: outragous76 on April 27, 2011, 05:11:31 PM Lol the PC brigade can GTFO....... interesting line Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: outragous76 on April 27, 2011, 05:19:32 PM I would remind people that this was:
In the work place Sexist Belittling Infront of colleagues and peers Live on television By a senior member to a less senior member Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: millidonk on April 27, 2011, 05:29:06 PM I would remind people that this was: In the work place Sexist Belittling Infront of colleagues and peers Live on television By a senior member to a less senior member If it wasn't live on television I don't think anyone would care. Seems pretty standard imo. I have been on so many equality and diversity courses and majority of it is mind numbing. The other day a woman came into my office and asked if she could have a big strong man to refill the water bottle. I didn't cry or say do it yourself equal rights etc. PC gone mad imo Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: leethefish on April 27, 2011, 06:21:42 PM joke or insult ...both (the goverment that is)
Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: Longy on April 27, 2011, 08:01:00 PM Neither.
An unfortunate turn of phrase blown out of all proportion. I am no fan of Cameron but I am more interested in what he is going to do to get this country out of a mess than this codswallop Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: outragous76 on April 28, 2011, 11:13:44 AM Lots of quiet people yesterday?????????????
Unfortunately many of the "haters" didnt have "quoatbles" - but feel free to go and read the andy gray thread to see who the hypocrytes are i really feel sorry for people that dont see what he said was a fairly harmless joke (but at the top end of the bottom tier of harmless) are we not allowed to tell jokes anymore?, is having a laugh and a giggle a crime? - (and yes i do include even at someone elses expense there too - other people are often used in jokes) the long run of this type of mentality is that people become cardboard cut outs - too frightened to express an opinion to go against the grain - and woe betide anyone how dare make a joke - for fear of someone taking offence if you choose to, you could take offence at a million things that are out there in this big world of ours If someone could explain why that joke was so vile/sexist/crude/diminishing that a man should lose his job over it id be interested to hear it time and place for everything andy gray is guilty of getting it wrong andy hray miss judge his releationship with the woman and basically it is a type of domintation and bullying among friends it might have been acceptable The second offence Gray was sacked for is obviously and totally worse than the first. Making sexual overtones and belittling a female colleague is bullying pure and simple. Whether or not he made the first gaffe, this behaviour was definitely more than enough to get him fired. The managing director of a firm of lawyers I used to work out got sacked for a similar comment to one of his colleagues - so losing your job for it seems to be pretty standard. also Whole thing is ridic.. First of all the comments were not broadcast on television..are we not allowed our own private opinions and thoughts any more? not one of us can say we have never made unworthy comments in private... .. If you're at home, it's in private If you're at work - it's public If you're at home, it's in private If you're at work - it's public +1 In my profession you would be very lucky not to lose your job for what he said to that presenter. Anyone with half a brain knows that you just cannot say that in a professional working environment with a respectable company. Anyone who dismisses this obviously clearly has no clue about how people should be treated............ A lot of people need to get a life then...as they will spend most of their waking life being offended.. It's irrelevent what her actions were after it happened. It's also irrelevent how offended she may have been. I have outlined above why she may not have said something. racism, sexism and homophobia could easily be classed as gross misconduct and hence lead to instant dismissal - just bullying could be classed as gross misconduct but would probably be more likely to be classed as misconduct and result in just a warning. Listening to Keys interview on TalkSport he has been well and truly setup. Taking the weekends events in isolation it really shouldn't have been a big issue. What everyone here is totally missing is this kind of sexual innuendo/bullying/harassment is against the law end of, neither your or my opinion matters. If you don't believe me go and read your employment contract. You can get done for stuff a lot more innocent than this. Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: millidonk on April 28, 2011, 11:33:22 AM Oooooooooooooooooh.
Bring back Keys, Bring back keys. Gray can GTFO the sexist jock mug. Keys is just a 'lad' having a bit of friendly bants. I say get Cameron commentating on the footy. btw Georgie Thompson = #1 woman with anything to do with footy. Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: outragous76 on April 28, 2011, 11:45:13 AM ;) ^^^^^^
And for me, I obv see it for the joke it was - but Cameron can def GTFO and take his silver spoon and toffee nose with him the pompous fucking twat! At least Borris Johnson IS funny! Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: MANTIS01 on April 28, 2011, 01:08:09 PM I love David Cameron and thought his joke was excellent
Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: Ironside on April 28, 2011, 01:20:15 PM cant be sexisit as he used the same line 4 years ago to david milliband didnt work as a funny that time either
just toffeee nosed ++++ with no real sence of humour trying to be funny to apeal to masses Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: smashedagain on April 28, 2011, 02:18:39 PM bring back mrs thatcher. she would never have said anything so mild....more like "stfu you looney lefty and sit your arse down"
Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: boldie on April 29, 2011, 01:19:01 PM bring back mrs thatcher. she would never have said anything so mild....more like "stfu you looney lefty and sit your arse down" Would have loved for Cameron to have said this. Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: mouth on April 29, 2011, 01:33:23 PM I missed it, I was in the kitchen.
Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: Ironside on April 30, 2011, 03:22:06 PM I missed it, I was in the kitchen. about timeTitle: Re: joke or insult Post by: mouth on April 30, 2011, 03:28:20 PM Think you're only so brave since you discovered how far away I live ;) Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: Ironside on April 30, 2011, 04:28:25 PM Think you're only so brave since you discovered how far away I live ;) i am always this brave cause everyone lives miles away Title: Re: joke or insult Post by: borman on May 01, 2011, 06:11:46 PM I don,t think so..
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