Lots of quiet people yesterday?
Unfortunately many of the "haters" didnt have "quoatbles" - but feel free to go and read the andy gray thread to see who the hypocrytes are
i really feel sorry for people that dont see what he said was a fairly harmless joke (but at the top end of the bottom tier of harmless)
are we not allowed to tell jokes anymore?, is having a laugh and a giggle a crime? - (and yes i do include even at someone elses expense there too - other people are often used in jokes)
the long run of this type of mentality is that people become cardboard cut outs - too frightened to express an opinion to go against the grain - and woe betide anyone how dare make a joke - for fear of someone taking offence
if you choose to, you could take offence at a million things that are out there in this big world of ours
If someone could explain why that joke was so vile/sexist/crude/diminishing that a man should lose his job over it id be interested to hear it
time and place for everything andy gray is guilty of getting it wrong
andy hray miss judge his releationship with the woman and basically it is a type of domintation and bullying
among friends it might have been acceptableThe second offence Gray was sacked for is obviously and totally worse than the first.
Making sexual overtones and belittling a female colleague is bullying pure and simple.
Whether or not he made the first gaffe, this behaviour was definitely more than enough to get him fired.
The managing director of a firm of lawyers I used to work out got sacked for a similar comment to one of his colleagues - so losing your job for it seems to be pretty standard.
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Whole thing is ridic.. First of all the comments were not broadcast on television..are we not allowed our own private opinions and thoughts any more? not one of us can say we have never made unworthy comments in private... ..
If you're at home, it's in private
If you're at work - it's public
If you're at home, it's in private
If you're at work - it's public
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In my profession you would be very lucky not to lose your job for what he said to that presenter. Anyone with half a brain knows that you just cannot say that in a professional working environment with a respectable company. Anyone who dismisses this obviously clearly has no clue about how people should be treated............
A lot of people need to get a life then...as they will spend most of their waking life being offended..
It's irrelevent what her actions were after it happened. It's also irrelevent how offended she may have been. I have outlined above why she may not have said something.
racism, sexism and homophobia could easily be classed as gross misconduct and hence lead to instant dismissal - just bullying
could be classed as gross misconduct but would probably be more likely to be classed as misconduct and result in just a warning.
Listening to Keys interview on TalkSport he has been well and truly setup. Taking the weekends events in isolation it really shouldn't have been a big issue.
What everyone here is totally missing is this kind of sexual innuendo/bullying/harassment is against the law end of, neither your or my opinion matters. If you don't believe me go and read your employment contract. You can get done for stuff a lot more innocent than this.
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