Andy Gray Sacked

[redarmi]

Your not telling me in the last 20 years of sky they haven't got there top presenters recorded off air saying something they shouldn't...... Poor Andy first person to say something wrong and is outed immediatly

Only it isn't the first example is it.  There are three recorded examples of him showing sexist behaviour.

[outragous76]

Just out of interest, and I am genuinely intrigued by the answer to this question

To those who believe that Gray (and anyone for that matter) should absolutely be sacked, are you therefore suggesting that anyone in any office in the country who tells a joke about a collegue, and causes a modicum of offense should be sacked?

I'll give an example

Barry and cos work in an office and Barry says "Oi cos, can you not sit over there today, your nose is blocking the sunlight coming through the window"

The joke is an absolute stand alone, we only know that these people are colleagues, and that the joke was said in jest, in a jovial tone and was followed by a hearty chuckle from Barry. Should Barry be sacked if cos reports this to HR?

[the sicilian]

id sack cos for having a big nose obv

[redarmi]

Just out of interest, and I am genuinely intrigued by the answer to this question

To those who believe that Gray (and anyone for that matter) should absolutely be sacked, are you therefore suggesting that anyone in any office in the country who tells a joke about a collegue, and causes a modicum of offense should be sacked?

I'll give an example

Barry and cos work in an office and Barry says "Oi cos, can you not sit over there today, your nose is blocking the sunlight coming through the window"

The joke is an absolute stand alone, we only know that these people are colleagues, and that the joke was said in jest, in a jovial tone and was followed by a hearty chuckle from Barry. Should Barry be sacked if cos reports this to HR?

No - but I would be very clear that sexist, racist, xenophobic and homophobic jokes are totally unacceptable and behaviour incorporating these that could be construed as bullying would result in immediate termination.

[ripple11]

Just out of interest, and I am genuinely intrigued by the answer to this question

To those who believe that Gray (and anyone for that matter) should absolutely be sacked, are you therefore suggesting that anyone in any office in the country who tells a joke about a collegue, and causes a modicum of offense should be sacked?

I'll give an example

Barry and cos work in an office and Barry says "Oi cos, can you not sit over there today, your nose is blocking the sunlight coming through the window"

The joke is an absolute stand alone, we only know that these people are colleagues, and that the joke was said in jest, in a jovial tone and was followed by a hearty chuckle from Barry. Should Barry be sacked if cos reports this to HR?

Presume he was on a final written warning? from the lino comments......so another warning is dismissal .

  Although the video is from December!? so not sure the first warning would cover all sexist behaviour??

[Woodsey]

Just out of interest, and I am genuinely intrigued by the answer to this question

To those who believe that Gray (and anyone for that matter) should absolutely be sacked, are you therefore suggesting that anyone in any office in the country who tells a joke about a collegue, and causes a modicum of offense should be sacked?

I'll give an example

Barry and cos work in an office and Barry says "Oi cos, can you not sit over there today, your nose is blocking the sunlight coming through the window"

The joke is an absolute stand alone, we only know that these people are colleagues, and that the joke was said in jest, in a jovial tone and was followed by a hearty chuckle from Barry. Should Barry be sacked if cos reports this to HR?

There are different levels of offences, racism and sexual offences are right at the top of the list. If Cos took offence then Barry as a min would get a bollocking for bullying..........

[Bongo]

I definitely think Barry should be sacked for laughing at his own jokes, that really is quite bad.

[AndrewT]

I'll give an example

Barry and cos work in an office and Barry says "Oi cos, can you not sit over there today, your nose is blocking the sunlight coming through the window"

The joke is an absolute stand alone, we only know that these people are colleagues, and that the joke was said in jest, in a jovial tone and was followed by a hearty chuckle from Barry. Should Barry be sacked if cos reports this to HR?

If Barry has seniority over Cos then it's workplace bullying, which should get you disciplined by HR.

[Jon MW]

Just out of interest, and I am genuinely intrigued by the answer to this question

To those who believe that Gray (and anyone for that matter) should absolutely be sacked, are you therefore suggesting that anyone in any office in the country who tells a joke about a collegue, and causes a modicum of offense should be sacked?

I'll give an example

Barry and cos work in an office and Barry says "Oi cos, can you not sit over there today, your nose is blocking the sunlight coming through the window"

The joke is an absolute stand alone, we only know that these people are colleagues, and that the joke was said in jest, in a jovial tone and was followed by a hearty chuckle from Barry. Should Barry be sacked if cos reports this to HR?

There are different levels of offences, racism and sexual offences are right at the top of the list. If Cos took offence then Barry as a min would get a bollocking for bullying..........

racism, sexism and homophobia could easily be classed as gross misconduct and hence lead to instant dismissal - just bullying could be classed as gross misconduct but would probably be more likely to be classed as misconduct and result in just a warning.

[sledge13]

Lol Keys kind of made it worse with his TalkSport interview, some mug caller on at the moment tho... says Andy Gray changed football because it was rubbish and boring before 1992 bahahahaahahahah!!!

[Acidmouse]

Listening to Keys interview on TalkSport he has been well and truly setup. Taking the weekends events in isolation it really shouldn't have been a big issue.

[Bongo]

Listening to Keys interview on TalkSport he has been well and truly setup. Taking the weekends events in isolation it really shouldn't have been a big issue.

Cliffs?

[SuuPRlim]

@ The Sicilian.

+1 everything you've said in the last 5 pages

now can we get back to mindless sexism pls, much more fun to rail

kthnx

[Woodsey]

Listening to Keys interview on TalkSport he has been well and truly setup. Taking the weekends events in isolation it really shouldn't have been a big issue.

What everyone here is totally missing is this kind of sexual innuendo/bullying/harassment is against the law end of, neither your or my opinion matters. If you don't believe me go and read your employment contract. You can get done for stuff a lot more innocent than this.

[Acidmouse]

Listening to Keys interview on TalkSport he has been well and truly setup. Taking the weekends events in isolation it really shouldn't have been a big issue.

Cliffs?

The 'press' incorrectly reported when he apologised to the lineswomen (he had had a good chat with her on Sunday afternoon where he apologised to her and she accepted this). They reported it happened on Monday after it was made public, making him look like he reacted to the events to calm the storm.

He was not allowed to make a statement fully apologising on Monday, he does not know why he was not allowed to do so.

He admits to being wrong and does not justify his conversation he had regarding women.

As for Karen Brady she refused to answer his phone calls to apologise. I don't think he was out of order to have a go at Brady as she was crying sexism over some crap in the papers the day before and he didn't agree with her over this and simply expressed it to Andy. Nowt wrong with that. I am sure Brady will make a huge fuss over this to cover up the fact she has treat Avrim like dog shit for months, she is more than happy.


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