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Live .50/1 at local casino
Table is 10 handed and 7 of them are limping in with boring regularity. Raises to £7 or £8 are virtually guaranteed at least 3 callers with the biggest culprit for this sat to my right.
Only three players have made more than one or two preflop raises. Me and the two players to my immediate left (sucks to be me)

The hand in question...

I'm SB (playing c£220) there are 5 limpers incl button and I make up the blind with  Kc 5c
BB has me just about covered and raises to £7. he's a regular, opening range as I saw it here was maybe medium pair,  A8s+, A10o+, suited broadway cards
Two callers, both stations, could have anything

I call and close the betting round. OK so far?

Flop is  3s 5h 5s

I check
BB  leads for £20 - he c-bets pretty much every flop, in fact, when he didn't c-bet later in the evening I thought it looked really strong.
The other two fold

I?....

...make it £55, setting up a non spade turn c/r all in.

fold pre.

As played I call and wait for him the fire the, no doubt, blank turn :)

very optimistic to think he'll let you c/r him ott. however i do think you should raise him here. you're going to look strong no matter what so you may as well stick more money in there.

fold pre,

c/r now, 65.

Bet turn 60 setting up river jam of 95.

i'd probably just cram turn as this line looks a little too strong imo plus allows the possibility of an extra scare card getting there for him

looks strong but its live 50/1 cash. seriously they dont think like that. I can just picture him calling the extra 45 on the flop. and then you jam 160 on the turn and he sighs and throws his 77 away. Whereas if you milk it out if him, less likely to fold imo.

-1 for fold pre.

Never folding this in this game in this situation.

I made it £60, he made it £110...

all in .....

Well then that's because you're a massive fish!

you can call if you have the button. You can call if it's 4 or 5. You can call if it's 6 or 7 way.

Calling from the SB in this spot is definitely a leak.

You're just using the fact that you are 200deep and everyone on the table is shit as an excuse for making fishy peels oop with trashy hands. I can spot the symptoms as I know I do this occasionally too...

+1 to the bold bit, I would be stunned if this wasn't a leak.

Why ask if its ok so far if ur never folding?

lol, never miss a trick do you?!

Noted. As a self-justification here though, the other two callers were pretty awful and it felt like I was putting an extra £6 in to be HU with BB in a £28pot unless one of the other two smashed the flop.
Still, playing OOP with BB I suppose, but meh - I called and the major interest here is how to extract the max from my luckboxed trips


Because the way it played out was dependent on my bets and I wanted to canvass opinion on how to proceed having hit the flop as I did?

But if Ur never folding why ask? Confused

edited the post about not folding - i thought the context was enough to make it clear what I meant.

There may be a useful spinoff benefit from having posted it in that it has identified a possible leak, but...

The post wasn't about my preflop call, it was about how to get the most from the rather kind flop. Giot any views on that?

Surely once you've craised and he's made it 110 he's made it fairly easy for you to win the max? All my chips please.

hang on a minute i need to go back and look at this again

I feel we may have an example of reverse implied odds on the cards here.

Are you pointing out Matt that K5 is a hand easily dominated, for example by A5, hence when it comes 55x we get stacked?

David, steer cleer of raggy fives for this reason.

he is making up the blinds with 5 limpers holding Kc 5c.... i cant believe any of you say fold. you never ever fold so dont talk like *****. give an honest answer or dont bother. if you cant be honest with yourselves then dont try give this guy advice coz he dont need to be bullshitted. are you ts scared that people might laugh at you coz you did not take the correct line. fml if he is up against 33 or a5 or flush draw which is possible with limpers then so be it . but please be honest and dont say fold pre getting 10/1 your money ffs

just read alex post while writing. alex how many of your hands start with questionable calls with starting hands that get bummed.

Lol jason reread the OP. No-ones saying fold for 50p, we're saying fold for the 6or 7more once the bb raises.

lol ok thats why i dont generally comment on pha......just shows how lucky and run good i have in poker tournies. no wonder titbean says hendonmob means feck all. went back n read it again as well. right oh carry on flaming poor old david again. go steady he is 57 tho

In Ur op u ask about Ur pre flop play which is probs why Ur getting feedback on it?

George2loose running this show.

That's the fella. I can't justify calling with 5 rag.

Alternatively it comes KKx and we have the same problem.

Also as we're out of postion even if we hit it big and are ahead we still struggle to extract any decent value.

I still call though because they're both green.

I did indeed say "OK so far?" - but couldn't imagine anyone being so pedantic as to answer that question asked as an aside, and ignore the bigger question about the postflop play.

I asked the question about postflop because I shoved over his reraise on the flop and he folded. I wanted to see if anyone was in favour of flatting either the initial bet on the flop, or having raised, if anyone would make an argument for flatting the reraise.


PHA isn't  straightforward otherwise you wouldn't be asking if you should shove  Qc Jc UTG

hmmm. i think we still call again in a 50/1 cash game where we are backing our ability to play post flop against these fish. but you are correct we need villan
to either have the ability to donk off his stack or not be able to give up a hand we have beat. does he have the ability to squeeze small pairs (possibly as he aint one of the stations) but 100% he aint gonna play this way having flopped the world.

 your point about A5 stacking you is pretty weak because we  stack 45  65 75 which are limpy call hands from fish. point taken about kkx flop is valid as we aint usualy up against a worse kicker than 5 but almost certainly k9+  in this senario. as played we cant fail to get a double up if he has any type of hand especially an over pair, i flat his £110 to give him chance to think we are on a draw or a little weak. 100% for sure you let him get off the hand here if you raise him again if he is light but you give yourself a chance of getting it all on the river.

oh you posted before i answered. come and ask me david in future and i will give you the correct answer for free. only person calling your re raise has you beat.

Nope but I wouldn't ask for feedback on the  Qc Jc hand then ignore it all and say "Yeh well I'm never folding it anyway"

please ignore my tone if comes across bad as well please. had a bad day today