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« on: July 13, 2011, 01:39:48 PM »

Live .50/1 at local casino
Table is 10 handed and 7 of them are limping in with boring regularity. Raises to £7 or £8 are virtually guaranteed at least 3 callers with the biggest culprit for this sat to my right.
Only three players have made more than one or two preflop raises. Me and the two players to my immediate left (sucks to be me)

The hand in question...

I'm SB (playing c£220) there are 5 limpers incl button and I make up the blind with 
BB has me just about covered and raises to £7. he's a regular, opening range as I saw it here was maybe medium pair,  A8s+, A10o+, suited broadway cards
Two callers, both stations, could have anything

I call and close the betting round. OK so far?

Flop is 

I check
BB  leads for £20 - he c-bets pretty much every flop, in fact, when he didn't c-bet later in the evening I thought it looked really strong.
The other two fold

I?....

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2011, 01:55:30 PM »

...make it £55, setting up a non spade turn c/r all in.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2011, 02:02:20 PM »

fold pre.

As played I call and wait for him the fire the, no doubt, blank turn Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2011, 03:39:42 PM »

...make it £55, setting up a non spade turn c/r all in.

very optimistic to think he'll let you c/r him ott. however i do think you should raise him here. you're going to look strong no matter what so you may as well stick more money in there.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2011, 03:43:30 PM »

fold pre,

c/r now, 65.

Bet turn 60 setting up river jam of 95.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2011, 03:46:10 PM »

fold pre,

c/r now, 65.

Bet turn 60 setting up river jam of 95.

i'd probably just cram turn as this line looks a little too strong imo plus allows the possibility of an extra scare card getting there for him
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2011, 03:55:50 PM »

fold pre,

c/r now, 65.

Bet turn 60 setting up river jam of 95.

i'd probably just cram turn as this line looks a little too strong imo plus allows the possibility of an extra scare card getting there for him

looks strong but its live 50/1 cash. seriously they dont think like that. I can just picture him calling the extra 45 on the flop. and then you jam 160 on the turn and he sighs and throws his 77 away. Whereas if you milk it out if him, less likely to fold imo.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2011, 04:29:38 PM »

-1 for fold pre.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2011, 04:38:41 PM »

Never folding this in this game in this situation.

I made it £60, he made it £110...
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2011, 05:16:13 PM »

Never folding this in this game in this situation.

I made it £60, he made it £110...

all in .....
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2011, 05:27:59 PM »

Never folding this in this game in this situation.


Well then that's because you're a massive fish!

you can call if you have the button. You can call if it's 4 or 5. You can call if it's 6 or 7 way.

Calling from the SB in this spot is definitely a leak.

You're just using the fact that you are 200deep and everyone on the table is shit as an excuse for making fishy peels oop with trashy hands. I can spot the symptoms as I know I do this occasionally too...
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2011, 05:41:42 PM »

Never folding this in this game in this situation.


Well then that's because you're a massive fish!

you can call if you have the button. You can call if it's 4 or 5. You can call if it's 6 or 7 way.

Calling from the SB in this spot is definitely a leak.

You're just using the fact that you are 200deep and everyone on the table is shit as an excuse for making fishy peels oop with trashy hands. I can spot the symptoms as I know I do this occasionally too...

+1 to the bold bit, I would be stunned if this wasn't a leak.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2011, 05:42:46 PM »

Why ask if its ok so far if ur never folding?
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2011, 05:53:05 PM »

Why ask if its ok so far if ur never folding?

lol, never miss a trick do you?!
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2011, 06:21:26 PM »

Never folding this in this game in this situation.


Well then that's because you're a massive fish!

you can call if you have the button. You can call if it's 4 or 5. You can call if it's 6 or 7 way.

Calling from the SB in this spot is definitely a leak.


You're just using the fact that you are 200deep and everyone on the table is shit as an excuse for making fishy peels oop with trashy hands. I can spot the symptoms as I know I do this occasionally too...

+1 to the bold bit, I would be stunned if this wasn't a leak.

Noted. As a self-justification here though, the other two callers were pretty awful and it felt like I was putting an extra £6 in to be HU with BB in a £28pot unless one of the other two smashed the flop.
Still, playing OOP with BB I suppose, but meh - I called and the major interest here is how to extract the max from my luckboxed trips

Why ask if its ok so far if ur never folding?

Because the way it played out was dependent on my bets and I wanted to canvass opinion on how to proceed having hit the flop as I did?
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