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Say you get pulled over on the motorway clearly speeding what evidence do they need to issue a fixed penalty? I remember before being shown film of myself speeding as police car followed, however last night as soon as the car pulled in behind me i shifted across lanes and came back to the speed limit so is it worth fighting it?

Yes 100% worth fighting

I got pulled in the same manner, police man on his own using his speedo with no retrospective calibration

GL sir! We won, we got costs!

He has to have followed you for a min distance too, how long was he behind you?

Pm me if you want a number. You Obv have to be prepared to go to court

Can't answer the question but I remember that this site had lots of useful info on this type of stuff.

Worth a look, IMO

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How fast were you going?  Is it going to be a £60 and 3 points fine?  If so, I'd simply cough up.

They rely on you owning up.

Speeding law appears to be the only one where you're guilty until proven innocent.

A friend of mine once used the "it wasn't me" defence in honour of the great shaggy song and got it through.

Stick to your guns and unless they can prove you did it you're in the clear.

This.

Just as long as you don't do anything silly like admitting you were speeding in a post on an internet forum I think you'll be fine.

To issue a fixed penalty they only need to have the opinion that you were speeding. That opinion does not need to be correct to issue a FPN.

Sandy

:D

Obv I'm way too lazy to challenge it and am just going to take the 3pts and £60 was doing 119 so more than fair. Was more curious in case it happens again as these are lucky points 4, 5 and 6.

Least u had a free dinner

You got a FPN for 119 ?

The cops evidence must be non existent or you'd be facing a ban.

Sandy

Sure a chap of motorway cops a week or 2 back got £300 fine in court plus 3 or 6 month ban for doing 116, copper said 'he was too far over to issue a fpn'.

Brag post!

Sick brag.... how you avoided a ban is pretty rungoodaments

Yeah figured as much, in fairness he said it was because clearly I'm a nice guy, skills kids, skills.


Must remember to thank Mr Grundy again for his kindness

I fking hate the world.


Run better, I got banned for a month for 101    ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr; ;grr;

119 seriously? thats an auto ban i thought, he must have nothing but his word, if he'd taped you, you'd be screwed i assume.

Yeah figured he had no evidence otherwise i would be geeg, i saw a car pull in behind me, fancied odds on it was unmarked car so snap slowed.

what speed did he put down on your ticket btw?

I got done doing 58 in a 30 on Saturday.  Officer said it goes to court for that, I was just thinking I should take the 3 points and £75 by pleading guilty by post. 

Any advice speeding experts?

26mph to 35mph over the posted limit    £45-£200     fine and    5-6 points.

If you can take 3 points do it, else you could get a fuking skanky 6 points in court and a bollocking..

Don't speed, its dangerous

You were doing almost double the speeding limit, so 3 points and £75 sounds reasonable (have they upped the £60 fee or something?)

Sigh.

genius...WP

Doesn't work like that. You can plead guilty by post but the magistrates decide the punishment.

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Go to google and put up the streetview or was it definitely a 30 ?

Sandy

Someone I know got caught on the M40 doing 127 mph at 2 am. he's a 60 yo bloke who was worried about potentially being locked up so he enlisted the help of solicitor Nick "Mr. Loophole" Freeman.
He got all the charges dropped on a technicality. The cost of this was £7k.

I dont think it's worth using him for anything less than a ban though.

It's all academic until a summons arrives. The information for this must be laid with the courts within 6 months. The summons may then arrive shortly afterwards. Failure to lay the information within 6 months is a win for you and possibly your best hope.

Freeman et al can only expose flaws if they exist. Nothing is guaranteed.

You can't get the jail just for speeding but once you get to well over 100 you risk a dangerous driving charge and then jail for the top end speeds.

Sandy

Just do what i.do and.go that fast that the t5 can't even catch you up to get a reading ;)

+1

Hardly mugged when he will have got costs, worth every Penny.

Mugged is a bit harsh, value is what you place on the service you're buying. If you can afford it and you're happy then c'est la vie.

hmmmm now where did i leave my 3 points and my fine??

Oh yeah it didn't get to court in time hello clean licence!


sorry what i meant to say was i agree with the above post.

but never get excited

my summons came thru 5 months 29 days later

The problem ain't  at this present time as 6 points is not affecting your insurance too much. Problems start to arise when you get nearer to a ban. When I got 3 points for being on the phone outside my house and then another 3 points a 2nd time for being hands free but took the phone out of the craddle at some traffic lights I decided not to fight the cases and take the points. When I got to12 points I had to plead exceptional circumstances to keep my license and then at 15 points I had to really blagg in court to keep my license. At 21 points I was caught in Brighton with Ali Mallu and them feckers snap impounded the car and obv did not like the northern charm and banned me for 6 months.
If you ever get done by a speed camera just get someone to take the points for you. Costs about £100 a point but well worth it

Or you could try driving safely, within the legal boundaries, and save yourself a fortune.

Just a thought.

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"old guy" itt

move on

hippy

I was driving on a dual carriageway near leeds bradford aiport.  The road is a quick one but as I found out is a 30.  I assumed 40 or 50 was the limit as its not in a residential area.  I was driving under the bridge (quite a long one under one of the runways), a chap in the inside lane was going about 25mph.  I overtook and there was another car on the inside lane so i went to overtake him too, he sped up.  Instead of slowing down and pulling in I put my foot down a bit.  When I overtook him I slowed down a touch. 

I got out of the tunnel and noticed the police car, I slowed down and thought I he had got me at 40, which i genuinely thought was about the speed limit.  He pulled me over.  Showed me the speed gun at 58mph and told me it was calibrated in July.  He got me from about 400 yards and said he had seen me overtake the other guy.

Didnt talk about the other guy speeding up just listened to officer, being polite thought he might just tell me off... naive. 

I asked him what would happen next and he said I would hear from the magistrates court.  I thought it was a tad harsh but nvm.  A police officer I know send me a PM on FB after i posted I had been speeding.  He suggested the 3 points and £75 fine.

LOL, I'm shocked that Jason was allowed to get to 21 points

Quite frankly, he got off lightly with a 6 month ban. He should, at the very least have to take some sort of competency test to get his license back.

sov

id consider contesting it - esp as it was "calibrated in july"

I doubt the copper would have a choice, whether to tell you off, as I imagine the gun records all firings. IDK though

Can't you take a speed awareness course, and they let you off the points? Costs about £90, Or have you already done one?

you only get offered speed awareness if you were marginally over the limit

only like 1 month ago, isnt that pretty recent?

wondering why he would go to the effort of telling you

you are def on for 6 pts and its a means tested fine, I would at least consider taking some advice

Calibration is annual. There have to be daily checks though.

Getting someone to take your points is risky. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2017307.ece

Sandy

or just pick your friends better imo, getting grassed up by a mate is pure filth.

Or just keep your mouth shut?

You won't be surprised to find out my insurance is £3500. I always assumed that the ban was compulsory at 12 points but I understand plenty of taxi drivers are driving round on a licence with more than 12 points.

I am not saying I did not deserve a ban as I have had 3 in total twice for driving at +120 and then once obv totting up. My point was that like pulling up outside my house, ringing the wife to tell her I was there to give her a lift up the hospital as she was going into labour is a bit harsh to get 3 points for. Waiting at traffic lights talking on a bluetooth and then take the phone out to send the caller a business card and then get 3 points is a bit harsh.  I'm sat at some red lights when the cop car behind decides it's now an emergency puts his lights and sirens on so I pull forward to let him get passed and bang another 3 points. All these cases I should have gone to court and pleaded my case. When I got done in Brighton  with Ali I could not really complain because I went in the wife's merc and it had run out of everything 6 months ago and I did not know obv. Was just grateful it was me who got stopped n not her.

My point really is flushy would have 100% got off without any penalty had he the right legal team and took the case to court. I ain't sure that officers have that much discretion about people doing those sort of speeds and if they get a fixed penalty or go to court

And don't even get me started on the time I got a ban for 28 days after speeding on my bike. 29th day I went to start my window cleaning minibus   which had a flat battery. Jumped in the wife's car to jump it off bang coppers who were sat opposite my house try to do me for driving without insurance. Lol

Why on earth did you go thru a red light whilst the feds were behind you?

looking into buying a road angel or a snooper?

anyone got one or know which one is best?

its a long story but they were taking the piss. i used to live with a probation officer and when we fell out some copper who was trying to get in her pants and was being a dick. same guy tried to do me for 2 bald tyres by putting his depth gauge on the tyre and not in the tread. scunthorpe telegraph did a feature on mobile phone use whilst driving because the police had made a big thing about catching 100 drivers using their phones in 3 months (i got done 3 times so accounted for 3% of these). a reporter went down to a local dual carridge way and  managed to see 30 people on their phones in less than an hour.