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Title: Large fields
Post by: Royal Flush on January 06, 2006, 09:21:31 AM
I was wondering if anyone here plays these comps online where you get 500+ or even 1000+ runners. I never play em, i think they are sick, lol.

However tonight i decided to try my hand at the paradise $75,000 gtd along with 1053 others, and the $20,000 gtd with 500 others.

I played for hours and hours and tired myself completly to come 51st/1054 and make a grand profi of 87$ and then i bubbled (near enough) to a bad beat in the 20k to lose $75 showing a huge profit of 12$!!!

This cant be a good way to make money, or is it? Seems like slow torture to me!


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: bundle on January 06, 2006, 09:27:16 AM
LMAO, yes it's tough, I played the day before yesterday. 671 runners. $24+2    3 hours or so later i busted in 29th  taking a whopping $58. I like to keep it under 350 runners


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: bundle on January 06, 2006, 09:27:51 AM
BTW this was the 16k GTD


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on January 06, 2006, 09:47:13 AM
I do know the feeling in the last week though Ive won a 365 player £20 on betfasir and last nite a £10 474 runner field, but I have also spent hors playing large fields to go out and only cover your stake


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Hawkeye1976 on January 06, 2006, 10:31:31 AM
Hi,

I think the main difference in players views comes from whether you are playing for a living or for the enjoyment of the game. (I know you can do both)

I play as a hobby and like the idea of a smallish stake for a massive return chance....

In a week period last year I managed to win a 600 runner $10 rebuy and a 500 runner $20 F/O, nice bankroll booster. Until I gave it all away playing cash games. (but thats for another thread)

Best Regards
Steve


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Royal Flush on January 06, 2006, 11:29:05 AM
Yes i think thats the diffrence.

The tournament presents great fun for a small sum, also the chance of a huge return. The comp i played was $30 rebuy with a first prize of 21k!!!

Deffo better if you play for recreation than for a living.


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Graham C on January 06, 2006, 11:46:02 AM
I only play the larger ones if they are freerolls :D  I only play them for fun and if I can do ok, then I may get something for nothing, but Im not fussed.  I did come 3rd out of 1500 once and only 1st and 2nd got a seat to some other big tourney - not best pleased but I was pleased with coming 3rd :)


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: snoopy1239 on January 06, 2006, 01:24:47 PM
I was wondering if anyone here plays these comps online where you get 500+ or even 1000+ runners. I never play em, i think they are sick, lol.

However tonight i decided to try my hand at the paradise $75,000 gtd along with 1053 others, and the $20,000 gtd with 500 others.

I played for hours and hours and tired myself completly to come 51st/1054 and make a grand profi of 87$ and then i bubbled (near enough) to a bad beat in the 20k to lose $75 showing a huge profit of 12$!!!

This cant be a good way to make money, or is it? Seems like slow torture to me!

Only in freerolls.

I prefer to play comps with 200 or less, preferabley not in excess of 100. Although the money increases, I think that the more people there are, the more your skill factor diminishes.

Plus, if it's your source of income, there really isn't enough time to sit around playing against such a large field. That win could take too long to arrive.


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: TheJagster on January 06, 2006, 01:41:26 PM
I have one of those 3G cards for emergenceys, plus I can log on to somone else's router, god knows where it is, I live in the middle of a field

Do you mean the field that Red lives in??


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: AndrewT on January 06, 2006, 04:02:51 PM
I prefer to play comps with 200 or less, preferabley not in excess of 100. Although the money increases, I think that the more people there are, the more your skill factor diminishes.

It's not that your skill factor diminishes (face it, there's still only going to be 9 other people at your table) it's that as the number of entrants increases, so will your variance. Your wins/cashes will come further apart, but they will be greater in value - your profits become more 'clumpy'.

Plus, if it's your source of income, there really isn't enough time to sit around playing against such a large field. That win could take too long to arrive.

Yes, that's your variance right there - if you need regular money coming in, clumps of money may not be enough.

AS an extreme example, say you (somehow) managed to have a 1000% edge over everyone else in the national lottery (ie your chances of winning were only 1 in 1.4 million instead of 1 in 14 million). Buying a ticket every Wednesday and Saturday would yield a profit in the long-term, but it wouldn't really be much good to you for buying the shopping every week.


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Royal Flush on January 06, 2006, 04:09:29 PM
will i think the skill does go down, the longer a comp goes on for the worse the structure gets, playing smaller fields you can get an average stack at a final of 25 bb's, in these monster fields you seem to be lucky if its 10!


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: sharpy on January 06, 2006, 04:13:00 PM


  I agree with royal flush, I got down to last 2 tables last night in a 400+ runner comp and it was all down to playing what I call push-in poker,pick your spot and hope


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: AndrewT on January 06, 2006, 04:15:25 PM
will i think the skill does go down, the longer a comp goes on for the worse the structure gets, playing smaller fields you can get an average stack at a final of 25 bb's, in these monster fields you seem to be lucky if its 10!

That much is true, if you're comparing tournaments with the same structures


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Rachman on January 06, 2006, 07:05:33 PM
I used to love the 20k guarantee 10 dollar rebuy on prima. Took a fair few hours, made a few final tables although 3rd was my highest finish.

Don't really have the time nowadays for long drawn out MTT's.


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: M3boy on January 06, 2006, 07:12:47 PM
Big Field Comps are like the lottery.

Pay a small fee to enter for the chance of winning big. (By small I mean in comparrison to the prize)

You could NOT make long term profit in these I think, but if I want to enter one , say $200 or even $500 entry fee (I am talking pokerstars now). Then I just sit down at a cash game, and if I make the buy in, then I will buy in - so to me its a sort of freeroll - Make sense?!?


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: JP on January 06, 2006, 08:05:31 PM
I like playing in large fields.
Last week I came in final 3 tables of pokerstars $200 with a field of over 3500.

I do not play these expecting to win, many times i go out in the first couple of hours. But when we were down to 50 I liked my chances and if a couple of key pots had gone my way I would have had a very good chance of winning the $150,000 1st prize. But the prize I got covers 15 weeks worth of buy ins so i will keep playing them. My friend got 11th in the $500 a few weeks back and had a HUGE coinflip to go out, 1st prize in this one was $190,000. To win you are going to need to play well and get lucky numerous times (this includes NOT getting unlucky).
I say if you can afford these then play them but don't expect an immediate return and if you go out early then don't be too disappointed. When I get that far again I like my chances of winning the whole thing.

And another point try the satellites to get in cheaply for them, I probably buy in a bit too often but last week I got a seat for $22 and won $3000

People say the skill factor diminishes with such a huge field, is that such a bad thing?? Some of the players who play these tournaments are high limit players and lots of very good pros play these tournaments, as much as we like to think how good we are there are often numerous players in a tournament with more experience and a higher skill level.

Adjust to the game conditions and there is a chance of winning big for a relatively low buy in as M3Boy says. I play these for fun as a break from my usual limit games.



Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Royal Flush on January 06, 2006, 10:39:57 PM
 :goodpost:

Cheers for that JP, now post more bloody often!


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: thetank on January 06, 2006, 10:46:24 PM

People say the skill factor diminishes with such a huge field, is that such a bad thing?? Some of the players who play these tournaments are high limit players and lots of very good pros play these tournaments, as much as we like to think how good we are there are often numerous players in a tournament with more experience and a higher skill level.


Very modest paragraph in a  :goodpost:


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: portfolio on January 07, 2006, 02:37:51 AM
I like playing in large fields.
Last week I came in final 3 tables of pokerstars $200 with a field of over 3500.

I do not play these expecting to win, many times i go out in the first couple of hours. But when we were down to 50 I liked my chances and if a couple of key pots had gone my way I would have had a very good chance of winning the $150,000 1st prize. But the prize I got covers 15 weeks worth of buy ins so i will keep playing them. My friend got 11th in the $500 a few weeks back and had a HUGE coinflip to go out, 1st prize in this one was $190,000. To win you are going to need to play well and get lucky numerous times (this includes NOT getting unlucky).
I say if you can afford these then play them but don't expect an immediate return and if you go out early then don't be too disappointed. When I get that far again I like my chances of winning the whole thing.

i totally agree.

the huge multiple return on investment  rewards players exponentially, i feel.

mixed with other lower runner mtts,its not hard to make a GOOD living from mtts.


 for fun as a break from my usual limit games.      ok     now that   i cant believe tho ;goodvevil;




Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: RED-DOG on January 07, 2006, 02:46:42 AM
I play mostly MTTs but I find I do best in the ones with bigger buy ins, longer clocks and smaller fields

I don't mind anything up to 200 runners but prefer around 100

The problem with big fields is the number of times you will have to put all your chips at risk before you make the money

Even if you are a 4/1 favorite every time the odds are stacked against you if you do it too often


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: thetank on January 07, 2006, 03:30:34 AM
I don't do MTT too often as the beats at critical times upset me. Playing them for a living I believe requires mental strength that I don't yet possess. I admire all those that do. The larger the field the bigger the variance, the luck factor might have you making nothing for months if you only play huge comps, I couldn't deal with this.

I play STT for steady money and to keep me far from tilt. Beats never bother me there.


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Longy on January 07, 2014, 02:54:55 AM
Anyone know if flushy has played any huge 500+ runner fields since? #lottery #onlyforrecreationalplayers.


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: lucky_scrote on January 07, 2014, 11:46:28 AM
Hahaha great bump.


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: MC on January 07, 2014, 12:13:23 PM
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Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Tal on January 07, 2014, 12:40:13 PM
Cliffs?


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: AndrewT on January 07, 2014, 12:43:38 PM
Cliffs?

Flushy haz braselet now.

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Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Tal on January 07, 2014, 12:46:32 PM
I was assuming he'd won something the other night online?

Either way, taking seven years to win a comp is quite a wait


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: Royal Flush on January 07, 2014, 12:57:57 PM
haha incred bumpage


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: action man on January 07, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
JP coming on with the brags!


Title: Re: Large fields
Post by: doubleup on January 07, 2014, 06:41:07 PM

Ahhh 2006 - I thought I lived in an orchard of money trees