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as the last video was taken down ive put a link to a much cuter one involving a baby rabbit sleeping. Sorry for spoiler but didnt want mods to call me a prick




THE LINK BELOW IS TO A NEWS REPORT OF THE INCIDENT NOT A VIDEO,

Link contained the video

The Chinese toddler who was ignored by 18 passers-by after being the victim of a hit-and-run accident in a wholesale market in southern China is likely to remain in a persistent vegetative state, according to senior hospital doctors treating her.

Chinese toddler run over and ignored 'to remain in vegetative state'

Video footage of the incident involving 2-year-old Wang Yue – known by her pet family name Yueyue – caused outrage in China and around the world on Tuesday, prompting questions about whether China's economic miracle had left a moral vacuum in its wake.

The girl, who was eventually scooped up and rescued by the nineteenth passer-by remains in a critical condition in the intensive care unit of Guangzhou military hospital in China's industrial heartland of Guangdong.

The hospital's head of neurosurgery, quoted by the local Guangzhou Daily newspaper, said that Yueyue had suffered massive head injuries and was in a coma, only able to breathe with the aid of a ventilator.

Wang Weiming, head of the neurosurgery department at the general hospital of Guangzhou military region, said Yueyue had shown no improvement and was very unlikely to recover her mental faculties.

"The patient largely fits the criteria of brain death," he added, "but her limbs are relatively sensible to a pain reflex, so she cannot be determined as brain-dead."

The girl's parents, who owned a small stall in the wholesale market in nearby Foshan, where the incident happened, were maintaining a rotating vigil at their daughter's bedside, hoping against hope that she might recover.

The girl's mother, named as Mrs Qu, said she had moved to Foshan in 2003 to start up the shop and had rented an apartment nearby.

The middle class couple said they had been inundated with calls of support and offers of donations for their daughter's medical care, but had declined the offers, saying they were "much appreciated" but not needed.

The distraught parents have avoided voicing their feelings over the incident, saying they wanted only to focus on Yueyue's recovery, but her grandfather, named as Mr Wang, admitted to a local newspaper that he "hated those cold-blooded passers-by".

He added that he had recognised at least one of the passersby. "I wanted to beat him, but at last I held myself back," he was quoted as saying in the Southern Metropolis Daily.

The story of Yueyue has both touched and angered millions of people in China and around the world.

In China, the TV report of the incident was viewed more than 2 million times on the internet within 24 hours and on Sina Weibo – China's version of Twitter – it attracted 4.4 million comments in the same period, organised under the hashtag "Please end the cold-heartedness."

By last night the story appeared to have sparked a national campaign on Sina Weibo under the banner "Please Stop Apathy" which was the number one trending topic, with thousands of posts calling for a return to moral consciousness in China.

"Little Yueyue's tragedy should not be repeated, the morality should not disappear, our hearts must still have a conscience. From today, offer to help those who need your help, because caring for others is just help yourself," said the call for change.

The public discussion reached even the pages of People's Daily, the mouthpiece of China's ruling Communist Party that usually remains aloof from such mass debates when they erupt on China's vibrant internet discussion boards.

"Although saving people constantly brings 'trouble,' nonetheless, ignoring the dying or even helping with evil acts by negligence is ripping apart society's ethical baseline and dissolving any sense of conscience deep in the souls of the public," wrote a senior columnist, Li Hongbing.

The one person who attracted universal praise for her warmheartedness was Yueyue's rescuer, 58-year-old Chen Xianmei who was said to work as a domestic helper by day and supplement her income by collecting rubbish for recycling at night.

Yueyue's parents were photographed meeting the woman, bowing down in a ritual 'kowtow' – a public expression of gratitude that she had stopped to help their daughter when so many others had walked on by.

The woman said she had thought about the risk of malicious prosecution when she intervened to help Yueyue – the reason widely given in China why 18 others did not stop to help – adding that she responded instinctively.

She told reporters she had found Yueyue with one eye shut and the other eye open looking at her and had rushed around searching for her mother. "I didn't think I was getting into any trouble. I didn't think so much. I just wanted to help her," she said, before returning to work.

No mod called you anything of the sort.

There was certainly a very rude name he got called in the edit comments from the mod. If it wasn't prick it was something very similar, I saw it.

Just checked, I was wrong. Perhaps shows the strength of feeling at the subject being posted on here

just got a message from a mod for reason for deletion, and i gotta say a pretty poor excuse. If a member or 2 complained then i would agree but its a relevant news piece that highlights the social and ethical lack of everyday morals.

The poor child and family that this happened too deserve for this story not to just be dismissed as its a little gory but to be discussed and widely exposed.

Maybe I should of put a better description of the turn of events in the op but this should never of been deleted.

Its still a story without the video, in fact more of one. All the follow up posts were naturally about peoples personal reaction to the video, or some generalisation about china or chiness people, not about the broader issue.

So, take the discussion down any path you want, that's wide open to you  and I'd love to hear more from you on the subject raised

Glenn is right. The story is a terrible one and discussion of it is welcome. The video itself was horrific and the link wa too much.

Story is?

a young chinese child is run over by a van, then ignored by multiple people and left on a street floor until a lady picks her up prob doing a huge amount of damage (not on purpose).

just as a thought did anyone complain or was it a mods decision to remove?

in today's society the modern media is portrayed in video form, if I had put up a link to a newspaper article it would not have many people discussing it outside of this forum. With the inclusion of the video I guarantee that most people upset, repulsed or disgusted by the video are more likely to tell others about the story. I believe that poor girl got igored for long enough on the floor of that street and shouldnt be ignored on what is supposed to be a open adult website.

Doogan posted the topic which clearly said it was the most disturbing video he'd ever seen. I personally watched it and was upset/horrified, but it didn't seem like it was posted so that the OP could just get kicks from people's reactions.

I don't understand why any mod should be calling anyone a 'prick' or similar for that.

Shut up you prick.

FFS!

I had this sort of semi intelligent discussion with Celtic  ( i know..you gotta give him a chance )

My argument being this is a public forum and that I felt the mods were a little draconian in their approach in some instances..taking their personal opinions and preferences into account rather than being objective...

I think people should be able to post their views pretty much as they like as long as they don't step over certain standard boundries...

The chinese girl video was probably the most horrific real life thing i have ever seen and the callous attitude of the passers by is beyond human belief.. however the video is in the public domain and Doogan although he could have brought it to our attention a little better was just simply doing this..alerting us to something in the public domain..mods need to be a bit more objective or soon there won't be a forum .. i personally hardly post on discussion threads for fear of incurring the wrath of a mod

when someone who lives with photaomch says it's the most disturbing video they've ever seen it's gonna be pretty grim

The news report does contain the video though.

Seriously, who wants to see a two year old get run over?? I read the peice and that was disturbing enough.

A few weeks back, the BBC ran a peice on a story in Afganistan where a man killed 3 young girls parents. The town got together, tied this man up and gave the girls a gun. They then encouraged the girls to shoot him. The BBC did not feel the need to show the girls shooting the man. The video cut out before the trigger was pulled. To say that today's media is portrayed in video form is a poor argument for a sick video in my opinion.

To say i would be more inclined to tell people about the story JUST because I saw the video is also a poor argument. I'm less likley to tell my partner to go looking for the story if I know that the video would traumatise her!

The top and bottom of it is, in my opinion, is that watching video's of children getting hurt or pople getting killed is just not required to portray the severity of the story.

Plenty of sites on the internet show that kind of video and much worse, some run with idiotic tags like 'can you handle life?'
They'll be the first to show the fate of Ken Bigley in Iraq, people being shot at close range, acts of deliberate graphic violence.
No matter how bored I get I never feel inclined to check them out, I'd get nothing from them, on the contrary you end up at least distressed by them. And I can 'handle life' thank you very much. I know exactly what someone means when they say 'toddler run over by two vans, many pedestrians ignored her', what more would I gain by seeing this for myself?

The story with or without the video tells me nothing I'm afraid. I'm very sorry for the girl, I hope she recovers. But what am I supposed to take away from it? That chinese people are unhelpful to strangers? This could have happened anywhere, the processes that cause bystanders to walk past are well documented in the annals of social psychology. Are we trying to prevent avoidable child deaths here? Post a pic of the thousands of toddlers that died in a pool of blood due to a pointless war in Iraq (acceptable collateral damage??), the hundreds of thousands who are about to die in Pakistan, Somalia, etc because we in the west are collectively choosing just to 'walk on by' them too.

blimey

posting the video overstepped the boundary in my opinion, I deleted it off here

Not sure I was anything other than objective. After all I have no involvement in the story or nothing against the poster.

Discussion of the story is of course fine, it just wasn't posted too sensitively or with adequate warnings first time round imo, that's all

I thought there was quite a clear warning in the case it was pointed out it was very disturbing.

Celtic just called it sick..this implies viewers would gain some personal gratification from it.... this was a news item and the video is in the public domain..people on this forum and generally have the right to choose to view it or not..by taking it down you have taken this right away.. whether it is disturbing or not is irrelevant the point is as free willed human beings living in a civilised society we have the right to view public domain content if we choose to and any single mods personal opinion cannot make this decision...perhaps things like this should be collectively discussed by mods rather than a single persons decision.

We are not children please do not treat us as such.

Will the video be re posted with adequate warnings ?

The video HAS been reposted in the OP.

No

It is not always possible to make a team decision. At 12.30am this morning it wasn't possible

A single mod can take such a decision, and frequently does. What is posted on here, public domain or not, is the responsibility of those asked to be moderators.

ok...cheers didnt see that..foot stamping over

It will be removed

Foot stamping to resume


News items fine, but no video

thanks

the OP now has the story, no video

perfectly adequate on here

perhaps things like this should be collectively discussed by mods rather than a single persons decision.

ALL the Mods who have voiced an opinion on this (4 so far, I seem to recall) on the Mods Board hold exactly the same view on this.

 

Mods 1
Pricks 0

why no video ?

Are you saying we can't make our own decisions about to view or not?

i thought we lived in a society of free will.....

This is a public forum isn't it? or a closed bunny filled wonderland where the establishment decides whats best for us... yikes !! Sorry Tighty you haven't the right to censor public domain material..this is what i meant about mods overstepping their boundaries... whether you think its acceptable or not is not the point its up to the membership of the forum to decide this..and the way they choose this is to view or not...not whether you allow it or not.

One of our members was good enough to bring this terrible story to the attention of the collective, just because its not particularly nice is irrelevant. I was  unaware of it before and it provoked a good deal of discussion in my office and brought home some serious human points...everyone else here decided not to watch the video...however at least they were given the choice

Seriously ?

which mod used the word 'prick' or similar?

I'm pretty glad it was removed.  If you're desperate enough to see it you can find it on the net easily enough I expect, but personally I'd rather not see it as soon as I open a thread, especially without prior warning, and especially under a fairly inconspicuous title such as "Chinese Girl Accident".

Plenty of public domain material is not allowed to be posted on here.

There's no overstepping of boundaries, its up to the mods to decide what is appropriate or not.

I repeat, the story can and is being discussed without needing the video on here

to be fair, I edited to put that title in on this second thread

At the time I did not know the linked news story included the video once again

is this true ?  is it ok for mods on their enclosed part of the site to slag off and carry out personal vendettas against members?

apparently true as more than 1 member saw the insult before the post was removed. tighty and celtic both ignored the question.

Lol at provoking discussion in your office... it consists of Steve 'I only ever tall about computers' , you, the polish kid that knows 4 words of English, and your burd. Now that would be worth filming and sticking on here.

what personal vendettas? you are implying a lack of objectivity here which is simply not present

the word was posted in this context..."And, also obv, you'd have to be a massive prick to post a link to that without explaining what it was first."

Nothing to do with enclosed parts of the site either

Cheers mate... at least its an office i pay for and everyone in it

The word used by the mod was removed, but I can totally understand his anger, there weren't enough warnings around the vid and it was only after I read Greekstein's comment that I decided not to watch. Most people will benefit nothing from seeing something like that and it can be pretty emotionally disturbing for many.

Dunno.

Lol, sirdonks trying to justify the story being ok, as it was published in the daily mail.

Havent this much fun for ages.

whats wrong with the story.......... y do u try to belittle people all the time... you asked me where in the news it was..its in the daily mail  and the guardian ... these are not national news institutions? or are they beneath your intellectual line..don't mind piss taking but sometimes your just meh...

tbf there was a full description of the video right beneath it on youtube and Doogan did say it was the most disturbing thing he'd ever seen.

Wasn't likely to be minnie mouse dancing on ice.

gotta agree Vin, it's a pretty serious topic and you're just pissing around in the thread.

dont worry cos his just trying to get me to bite..half way there obv

What's your point?

wouldnt bother cos...i saw exactly the same warnings thought they were pretty clear.. i chose to watch as i personally couldnt believe what i was reading.. i chose not to watch it again..

no wonder there are hardly any decent discussion threads on this forum any more...

I thought I gave a warning of how upsetting the vid was and not to watch if easily upset able, it was all in bold and capitals so it stood out.

I cant remember what mod called me a prick but i thought it was a bit harsh.

my point is why do you feel the need to take the piss out of my office.. u sit in a room on ur own

if it was such a bad link to have up, why wasnt  the link removed or why wasnt I contacted to modify it when the mod first edited my op?

So your room is an office, and my office is a room? I may be here on my own, but could have a better convo here, tham you could with the rest of the tellytubbies in your office.

i dont think this sort of attitude should be adopted by a mod in an official capacity.. calling your members pricks is not appropriate tbh

Why does it even matter?

Stop taking the thread off track.

Text sicilian abuse if you miss being apart from him so much

you know there is only two tellytubbies in this office...tracys typical bird who thinks shes fat eating a ryvita and we havent fed the polish kid all week

Yeh, Doogan is quick to be given the wrist slap but the mods just ignore this.

It could be one of my mates like celtic I'm landing in it here but that doesn't really matter. Whoever it was, was bang out of order.

obv has

yeah just seems to be people arguing for the sake of arguing now days....

Think people have been a bit harsh to the OP, he repeatedly said that it was not for the feint hearted or words to that effect, also it wasn't like it was a 10 second video that was in your face straight away, the video was 7 minutes long and for the first 30 seconds it was just a news reporter speaking which was more than enough time to realise what the video was about, at that point I turned it off. I don't really get why this has been blown out of proportion, surely the link to the video could've just been removed and a pm sent, nothing more needed to be said ? If it was late at night and thus took down overnight what's the big deal.

BTW what is the big difference between this video and the one of the lad in London who had his stuff stolen after having his jaw broken ? That was a pretty distressing video but it was posted on here without any issues ?

It was me who made the prick comment. Yeah OK, maybe I didn't need to resort to name calling but I think some of you are failing to understand exactly what was in that video - this was a child being very seriously injured, almost killed. Very nearly a snuff video.

Whether it is something which should even be posted on here is debatable. If it is, then it would have to be made very explicitly clear to anyone who clicked on the link what it was. The webpage was in Chinese. The video was in Chinese. It would have been very probable that someone could click on the link expecting to see something horrible, but ultimately harmless (like 2 Girls 1 Cup).

But a child getting run over by a van? And lying there on the ground, obviously in much pain and distress, barely moving? Whilst people passed by? And no indication as to whether the child died or not?

Seriously?

I'm sure if Phatomch were still on the forum he would agree that was beyond the pale.

Sorry Dean, this is just pish on pish.

No ones rights have been taken away, as you say it's public domain so knowledge of the story is enough to find the video - if of course, they are inclined to watch videos of kids being run over as they can't 'picture the scene'.

One of the best things here is that mods do exercise a moderate amount of censorship - I don't always agree with what is and what isn't but fucked if I'd own a website and let it have links to kids being run over or beheadings or any other shiz like that. I'm intelligent enough to know it happens and be completely shocked by it without watching it.

The post was more a hypothetical 'prick' -  or an equation

Yet you didn't instantly remove it or ask me to?  you just edited the op to say what it was and call me a prick.

To be honest I am not bothered about the prick bit and I should of put a better description of what it was, I had a few drinks last night and I would of followed up with a english news piece if the thread wasn't deleted.

As I said, I didn't remove it because the problem was not the posting of the link (IMO - others may disagree) but the lack of explanation of exactly what it was. I put in the description.

Maybe I shouldn't have made the prick comment but just shows how angry I was with you - I don't rile easily.

Not worried about the prick bit so no one else should be. You put a description up and have just said there was no prob  putting the link up so why was it deleted twice after a full description of what it was with the warnings i put on that numerous members have stated they thought were adequate?

It's a really tough job to decide what can or can't be kept on a forum but I thought there were pretty good warnings for people not to watch it.
AndrewT obv didn't like the video and maybe didn't react in the best manner.
Would it be a decent guess that there are 9/11 videos on Blonde somewhere? Some of those images I found really upsetting when I watched but I guess they would be allowed to stay.
Pretty sure on the Sports section you can see the crash in which Dan Wheldon died. Dunno who the poster was and it was done before the news had come in of his death, not having a pop just pointing out that's a horrible and upsetting video too.
Seeing images obv gives us a clearer picture of exactly what happened which is why people use them rather than somebody just talking and describing everything that happens.
I wish I hadn't seen it but not in a "wish he hadn't posted it" way more of a "I wish it hadn't happened" or "I wish I was blissfully ignorant of the event" type of way.

There's is plenty of stuff posted on here of crashes and stuff that are just as bad imo, dunno why people are getting their knickers in a twist about this one in particular.

Think you miss the point Glen...

its not a website its a public forum..a place where you come together to view and discuss events whether, harmless funny topical or as in this case disturbing.

There were more than adequate warnings about the link and as grown adults i think we should be allowed to make our decision and not have someone make it for us...censorship for censorships sake is not a good thing...ask cold war Russians.. in fact its quite ironic this story comes from a country steeped in a history of a controlling overseer government...

As stated the content could have been of something equally disturbing but been allowed... let us make our own decisions please

There are plenty of unmoderated forums on the internet.

Anyway, I think the thread has been pushed of track here, the poor girl is in a very bad way and the lack of help given by the passing people is disgusting.

For these people not to help due to the fear of being blamed is a shocking indictment of the modern culture of trying to sue for everything you can.

I only hope that the poor girl's family can progress as they have shown great morality in refusing money or financial help for medical expenses.

Mods check everything no?

Angry why? We were all angered by the content but what did the OP do wrong?

Plenty of people (and I think we all HATED the content of the video) have defended op's posting of it. I certainly don't think he was trying to anger people.

You calling him a prick is so far out of line. It's something we expect of Ironside

What part of China is it in?

It was similar to Woodsey's story on my diary about people not stopping in car accidents etc over here in Thailand for fear of being sued/having to pay police bribes and medical expenses but the fact it's a little girl who has been run over in the most cold hearted way is just sickening and then people walking past. Makes you want to hurt all these fuckers.

Does anyone know the news of the girl's condition atm?

Agreed.... pretty sure there was no need for that..especially in your position..think some moderation of mods should be in order...maybe mr T should be taken before the Mod council to answer for his crimes :)

Those that did watch the video, would you forward the link to your friends so that they could watch it too? Or post it on a forum or on your Facebook wall? What were your feelings about watching a video like that (as opposed to the morality of the actions of those involved), and why do you think it merits  being shared?

Dont think I'm missing the point Dean and I can easily see both sides of this as a video will undoubtedly shock or oftentimes say more than just words.

Not sure of a nitty classification here but I wouldn't call this a public forum although it is open to anyone to join and post. It's a members forum and it is owned by a group of people who entrust other people to determine what stays and what goes.

I'm not a big fan of censorship generally - I wouldn't say the video should be banned by the state for example. But I don't have any problem with privately owned companies exercising any kind of censorship they choose to.

On a personal level, I do object to things like this and rather they weren't posted because it inevitably sates some near prurient interest for certain types of people.

For the rest, other than hand wring, what serious discussion can we have over something like this.

Lol at all the bullshizzle in this thread.

Wtf is wrong with you people? Seriously?

You do know that none of this actually matters don't you?

I'm talking about the aftermath crap rather than the actual event before any of you people jump on me thinking I mean the news article doesn't matter.

Personally I'm more than happy that a mod decided that this link was a bit nasty and that the majority of Blonde users probably don't want to see it.

If I want to see horrible disturbing videos I can find them easily enough on my own without having links to them posted on a poker forum.

North of Hong Kong,

she is in intensive care.

The lady who stopped and helped, has been given around $4k but has pledged it all to the family to help them and she works 2 jobs, one of which is going through rubbish looking for recyclables

Andrew's point is that blonde is a moderated forum - so there is some form of editorial censorship.

There are other poker forums out there without this moderation.  Personally, I much prefer blonde to those forums.

And to think I was on the verge of giving you one of your stars back.

Why the hell is there a censorship discussion going on here?

Nothing has been censored. A link has been removed but the video is still in the same place it's always been.

i sent to my mother, grandfather, brother and posted on fb.

Prick

Please don't shoot me. I'm joking.

will just stick to Celtics a cock posts...

I didn't post it on my facebook because of younger relatives etc, otherwise, as a shocking news story I would have. Obv with a warning.

It's a bit of an eye opener to a few other cultures - I personally wouldn't have thought this happens in somewhere like China. Also raises issues of a culture where suing for everything has got ridiculous

Do you really think people being sued was the reason they didn't stop?

Some kid gets knocked over and nobody will help in case they get sued? Sounds like media bullshit to me.

I understand people just not giving a crap so they leave her and hope someone else will sort it but I can't buy the suing thing.

Reminds me a bit of Se7en

"John Doe: Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention."

Happens in these countries all the time mate, there is a reasonable chance that was the reason I'm afraid

Do what you want

Bloody hell.

That's awful if it's a genuine reason.

Then there's something very wrong with their state/country if people couldnt give a shit about a young girl hit by a car. Why do you think people don't give a crap?

Part of that reason is undoubtedly corruption mate.

last week a bus driver in China refused to help a old lady on his bus who had a turn for the worst until 4 other passengers had sworn to testify he hadnt done anything wrong

Be silly to quit on this story when 80% of people agree with you for the safety of a thread where 100% will agree... way too sensitive imo

This is turning into 'problems in Chinese society shocker'

Families use to regularly kill off their female offspring due to mandates on ze number of kids one could have.

this is a very good post on the moral side of it, IT HAS NO VIDEO

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100111377/china-ponders-its-lack-of-good-samaritans/

Why couldn't one of the passers by phone the emergency services and remain anon?

Interesting that this story seems to shock more than some random innocent who gets stabbed whilst trying to break up a fight or a little black girl in London who gets gunned down accidentally in a drive-by. Or the amount of people in the UK that would do nothing whilst someone gets the shit beaten out of him.

Not saying it's not shocking, just asking where the outrage is in those instances.

major difference, this girl is 2 yrs old walking around looking for her mum. These  people looked at her and in some cases had to go around her to go down the road

Not saying it's not shocking mate. Sometimes I just wonder where the line where people should be shocked is.

Seems that walking on by is more normal than people would like to think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

ofc there's outrage in those instances. there was plenty of outrage at that little girl being killed.

If you were trying to prevent an attack then fine, but often pretty silly to try break up a fight.

this is a toddler ffs and people are just ignoring her. I doubt ppl ignored the person who got stabbed or the little girl when she got shot.

yeah its a epidemic,l 2 cases in 47 years

There were obv many more cases, the Genovese case sparked a lot of research looking for explanations of the phenomenon, and metaresearch that examined crime data and intervention-versus-number of bystander analysis. The more bystanders you have, the less likely people are to intervene.
"There are, in fact, many reasons why bystanders in groups fail to act in emergency situations, but social psychologists have focused most of their attention on two major factors. According to a basic principle of social influence, bystanders monitor the reactions of other people in an emergency situation to see if others think that it is necessary to intervene. Since everyone is doing exactly the same thing (nothing), they all conclude from the inaction of others that help is not needed. This is an example of pluralistic ignorance or social proof. The other major obstacle to intervention is known as diffusion of responsibility. This occurs when observers all assume that someone else is going to intervene and so each individual feels less responsible and refrains from doing anything."

Accordingly, these chinese people aren't really being pricks, more just being human. If Yue Yue had similarly been injured in London, it would be entirely possible that bystanders would not have reacted differently. Maybe another story in somewhere like Quebec, or Brazil, where passers-by can be prosecuted under criminal law for failing to intervene.

lol, I'm pretty up to date with forum moderation, if anybody spoke int he way the mods have here that I deal with they would be insta fired and all their moderation rights taken off them.  They are all voluntary too, in fact if I quoted some replies they would be absolutely gobsmacked. I big up blonde to everybody in both my company and rival forums fwiw, we even try to implement things blonde have done to make our business better, and I'm talking about a multi, multiiiiiiii company here. Don't forget the little things uguys.

You working for Tapie? ;)

evilpie for mod

mods are evil pies

man get over it i rarely post on the forum anymore have never called anyone a name on a public forum yet you still have digs at me when i havent gotten a problem with anyone currently on the forum
if your trying to get me the sack try freaking harder as i dont really care if i get the boot or not
but if you think your constant snipes at my role as an admin will get me too quit then tough luck as my respect for tikay will always outweigh your hatred of me

dont think you can you need an admin to do that and currently i cant be bothered even if the mods asked me too nicely i might just start a revolt

I haven't really been following all of this but I think it is fair to say that what Doogan writes here is true insofar as that I read the post and decided not to watch it on the basis of what he had wrote so there clearly was a warning and, given i made that decision on the basis of the warning not to watch, it was clearly sufficient.

Wish I hadn't seen it.......

The story is enough.....

Think I join the prick camp for watching it...

This is the worst thing I've seen in a long time....poor girl.....


I may not have watched if I had seen this thread first...very upsetting and almost impossible to understand.......first thing people here would do is run to her for help

Disgusting......

I'm glad I missed the OOP and I'm glad the vid link has been removed from this discussion. I have no need to sit behind a computer watching a little girl being run over twice.. then watching 18 people pass by as she lays bleeding and lifeless on the ground. Reading the story was bad enough...

It always astounds me how many countries do NOT have a standard unified Samaritan law in place! This includes the UK... Implementing a universal good Samaritan law under the human rights umbrella can only be a good thing!!

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-good-samaritan-laws-in-different-countries.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-good-samaritan-laws-in-different-countries.htm)

I wonder if the response of passerbys would had been different if this had been a Chinese boy rather than a Chinese girl? In such an oppressive society it's difficult for us in the lol-freeworld to comprehend what seems to be total and complete coldheartedness...

Sadly, people get less involved than you think, and the UK media is full of stories about good Samaritans who stepped into something only to end up being stabbed, beaten, shot or having a stiletto through their skull...

It's easy to take the moral high, it seems less so to help a fellow human.

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Geo

Meh thats china for you


I remember readin on cos diary that in Thailand if u knock some off the bike u just ride on as u get fined.
And one instance a guy decided to help a guy out who got ran over but then got sued .

hatred is a strong word. I don't hate you. I don't even dislike you. By all accounts you're a top bloke. You're just a terrible mod.

It's not personal.

Oh no how will I cope without my stars

In China boys are more important than girls.

Don't want to sidetrack the debate but that is a very simplistic view of a very complicated topic which has been exacerbated by the one child policy and whilst there have been a lot of cases of female infanticide these are almost always perpetrated by members of the family and doesn't really explain why 18 people would walk past am injured toddler in the street.  In fact the suggestion that this has anything to do with the Chinese as a race or nation is pretty much totally unfounded.  Off the top of my head I can think of at least another three of four similar cases to this which have all occured in this country or the States.  It is a common enough situation to have a name in psychology (Bystander effect or Genovese syndrome).

I'm sorry but come on mods/admin, respect for you has gone wayyyyyyy down in this thread. Theres a "proper" way things should be done and please don't give me the "voluntary" card because its the same in any forum and any mod I have ever hired or been in the process of hiring  would never ever speak like this.

only on blonde can you have regular threads like this :P

look at the long list of people who don't post any more and ask why...

:(

but blonde is so so so good. please make it work mods :)

It's not the mods causing the problem imo.

If you think the mods are blameless then just lol

who is causing a problem?  seems some are annoyed at vids being taken down, some at mod calling names and a few at me posting in first place but I dont think im causing a problem.

I've been to and travelled around China. From what I saw, I don't think it's necessarily to do with a fear of being sued, framed, etc; they just don't value life in the same way as we do. Whether it's because of the high population, or simply an imbedded cultural thing, they just seem to shrug their shoulders and move on with life in a kind of 'Oh well, shit happens' way. You only have to look at their lack of health and safety regulations to see this.

They're also ruthless when it comes to getting on public transport and reaching the front of queues and have no problems in elbowing people in the face, so maybe their culture just suggests and creates an every-man-for-himself mentality which, over time, can inadvertently discourage compassion for fellow human beings. That's not to necessarily criticise China or its people as I loved the country and met many nice people, but the general attitude or response towards life and the terrible things that happen did seem slightly different.

I should add that this is just an educated guess, and I could be totally wrong. Maybe those people walking past were just an exception, or there's another reason why they wouldn't show any concern beyond mere cultural differences.

RIP Wang Yue :(

Both drivers have been detained.

:(

RIP

RIP

Awful.

Can't believe the BBC were reporting it as 'top news' today, even though the story is days old. It obv wasn't enough that the poor girl had been knocked over, twice, then ignored by many passer-by's....

It seems it the story only became 'reportable' on the BBC when the girl had died!!! FFS!!!

I hate the blood sucking sensationalistic opportunism of todays media

xx

so awful and heart breaking. rip