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So following on from http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=55617.0 thread in which I have posted a number of selections through the month of November I am going to start my own thread/journal of the E/W bets I am making each day. 

These are not tips, they are simply my thoughts on horses I think may be over priced and represent a good opportunity to place an each way bet to make a profit. 

For those who don't understand each way betting  - An each-way bet is a wager offered by bookmakers consisting of two separate bets: a win bet and a place bet. For the win part of the bet to give a return, the selection must win, or finish first, in the event. For the place part of the bet to give a return, the selection must either win or finish in one of the predetermined 'places' for the event, such as in first "place" or second "place". The odds paid on the place part of the bet are usually a fraction (commonly  1⁄4 or 1⁄5) of the win odds. 

I will attempt always to play in events were the first three places are paid as a minimum.  Sometimes this won't happen for example in the event of a non runner. 

This method of betting has been fairly successful for me, it can be slow and laborious I won't only be searching for "dirty" each way bets but will be quite happy just to try and find what I perceive to be value. 

Generally as a rule of thumb I bet e/w singles and doubles.  On occasions I do mug bets that will either lose small or win big. 

For the benefit of this thread I am starting with a 500 point bank.    The value of my bet is dependent on different factors including price, previous form, chance of improvement etc. 

If I select a horse at 20/1 and suggest that its a 5pt e/w bet (maximum) then as a rule of thumb its because i believe that the price about that horse is wrong, I might think its closer to a 10/1 shot.  However it could be that I have seen the horse race previously and think I have noticed something that the odds compilers haven't. 

For me this is not an exact science, I am not a professional punter, far from it. 

Anyway I hope you all follow me on my journey to bustodom or richville!

My intention is to use this thread as a journal and keep accurate records so I try and show the discipline of getting my selections on early as soon as I have got my bets on, In the unlikely event that I haven't been able to get my price early I will only call out those bets later in the day.   I hope by keeping this journal it will prevent me from chasing. 

This thread will show all my daily bets, which can see me betting on > 70% of races. 

Selections will appear for tomorrows racing either late tonight or first thing in the morning. 

Good luck with this.
I've had a couple of punts on your tips and the really sick sweat for Leatherman yesterday was bob stuff.

gl dude hope it goes well!! ill be keepin my eye on this!

 :)up

Appreciate the explanation of e/w betting, gl.

Some people don't get it, btw I copied it direct from wiki as I'd have probably confused anyone not sure even further. 

IS THIS YOUR job?

or u do it as extra income?

If you had read the OP you would know this is not my job. 

Lol. All my mate reads is " printing money " and that's enough for him

In total I have 11 selections for today spread across the three meetings, most selections as I am sure you would all expect run at Wolverhampton. 

I have already managed to get 5 bets placed at what I think are reasonable prices.  For this journal I am using bookies who offer Best Odds Guaranteed (BOG) again for those not too sure of betting terminology this means should I take a price on a horse early and the starting price (SP) is bigger I would get the Starting Price and vice versa.

Once all bets are on I will post selections with some thoughts behind the selection. 

I am betting 46 points tomorrow over 11 races so nearly 10% of the bank in use straight away, unfortunately I've not come up with too many "fancy" priced horses.   But I hope they are solid selections we can all follow. 

Good luck with this, Raman.

In 40 years of punting, I never once backed someone's else's tips, it makes no sense to me, but I really hope you keep the thread discipline up, win or lose, & hope it goes well for you.

What doesn't make sense about it ? If your pretty terrible at betting on the geegee's but like a little flutter it makes more sense to follow someone's tips that has a clue then go with your own.

Thanks Tikay. I hope you follow it.

These selections are not tips in the conventional term, its more just my own selections if people want to follow then great, I hope we all make money if they don't I don't mind i won't take it to heart.

Did you follow the tipping thread on Saturday?  That turned into quite a sweat.   Sadly it never worked out in the end for Leatherman but he came very close to having a great Christmas.

Sorry, Ray, but I have always struggled to find a single reason, or a shred of logic, to backing other folks "tips", I can lose my own money without help from "experts"......!

I don't back the horses any more, but I used to, big time, & for a very long time, both in LBO's & @ the tracks.

I remember one Derby day, a geezer bending my ear about his fancy in The Derby, @ Epsom. "It's definitely trying today" he said.

Who'd have thought?

I will deffo follow it, Raman, & I hope it goes well.

I never followed Saturday's tipping thread, no, but I was following the football results closely. What a day! Best football day for bookies since England v Algeria in the World Cup. Pretty bad for the punters, though.

GL Ramon!

Some how completely missed this thread.

Obv I will be following, I have pretty much backed every 'tip' i have seen on Blonde and don't intend to stop now!

Love grinding out the day job with all the zombies, sat there quitely knowing I have my bollocks on the line in the last at Kempton.

Got a week or 2 safety blanket after Saturday's run good so lets gogogogo.

Nice thread title. GLGL

2:45 Wolves – Autumn Blades has made the frame in 63% of his races on the all weather.  And it would appear he far prepares the polytrack to fibresand, the horse has been in the duldrums recently and not performing anywhere near what he is capable the horse has only beaten one home in his last 3 starts.  The last race was run on the fibresand at Southwell and he was up near the pace early before falling away at the 3f pole, when turning for home he was on the slowest ground and it appeared to me that the jockey gave him an easy time of it.    I am hopeful that the new trainer learnt something about the horse from that race and that we will now see an improved  performance as he tackles a surface that he would seem to prepare.   I would anticipate he will sit just off the pace before being delivered fast  and late.  I have had 1pt e/w @ 8/1. BOG

3:20 Wolves – I am pretty sure at the finish we will be able to throw a blanket over the field.  However the one horse I’d like to be in this race is Cayman Fox she has shown signs of returning to form in her last 2 races and a slipping handicap mark she also has a plum draw, she’s a game filly who likes to lead but she also has some fight in her.  I have taken 1.5pt e/w @ 10/1 – BOG

3:50 Wolves – 2nd division of the sprint handicap is again another competitive race.  I really like the chance of Ability N Deliver to take the purse back to Ireland, it’s a horse that’s ran credibly on previous visits this side of the Irish sea.  I can’t see any reason why this horse wont place returning from a short break and being eased slightly in the handicap.   3pts e/w @ 5/1 – BOG.

4:20 Wolves – Can Do Les gives the impression that the step up in distance would suit.  He hasn’t performed great for this stable but he seemed to be doing his best work closer to the finish and the extra 2 furlong should suit him.  I think its playing for 2nd place though behind the fav.  1pt e/w @ 6/1 BOG

5:20 Wolves – I was impressed by how well Priors Gold won on Friday, this is a little tougher but I think Gordon Elliot has pulled off a coup by getting young Brendan Powell onboard to take off his 7lb claim.  That said from our perspective I have backed Boa to place.  3pts @ 3.35 if the price is bigger I will top up.  There was a good bit to like about its performance over a shorter trip on Saturday. 

5:50 Wolves – A horse I put up on the tipping thread other day was Jibouti.  The Clive Brittain trained horse seems to prefer the polytrack and was a staying on 3rd over a shorter trip on Friday and even missed the break.  I was impressed by that run and will be giving it another opportunity 2pts e/w @ 8/1– BOG

1:45 Ffos Las – This could turn out to be a competitive maiden with so many unknown quantities in it, there isn’t a great deal of form to go on.  So I’m playing safe and going for a horse that has been over obstacles before and has shown up not too badly on soft ground.  Indian Tiger 2pts e/w @ 12/1.

2:20 Ffos Las – Mistree Dancer is the horse I want to be with in this race has run credibly under heavy going before both over hurdles and fences and  could be one for further improvement over a longer trip, she seems well weighted to go well.  3.5pts e/w @ 11/2 – BOG.

2:55 Ffos Las – I expect that the favourite will win this race as has been found a decent opportunity to follow up on his last success, however should he fail to repeat that performance then I think there is some value in being on BROUSSE EN FEUX in the place market.  I have backed 2pts at 3.3

1:30 Folkestone – This is another race that should go the way of the favourite but if there are any slip up then Joseph Lister could be the one to take advantage having finished 2nd on debut over hurdles  just under 3 weeks ago I expect a big run.  3.5pts e/w  @  9/2 - BOG

2:35 Folkestone – Just Benny looked useful on hid handicap debut/seasonal re-appearance finishing 3rd over 3 miles at Chepstow and as long as he is not inconvenienced by the slight drop in trip he should be bang in contention.   2pts e/w @ 9/2 – BOG.

Just noticed that Cayman Fox in the 3:20 @ Wolves is a N/R.  Feels like a winning day when we have a return this early :D

Nice one Raman.....any chance you could give a best bet of the day?

I'll play safe and say Ability N Deliver - 3:50 Wolves.

Have heard a word for another in this race. Sigh, we have the Raman blok bok.

Indian Tiger - looks one for the note book when going handicapping. 

Did it drift in betting? Saw it was 33/1 on Betfair but was busy laying favourite so didn't check place odds or have a nibble. Ran a "interesting" style for sure

Yes mate opened at 12's this morning and last show I saw was 33/1

I am off out to a meeting and won't be back until around 4.  Lets hope I am returning to some nice results. 

So would you disagree with my reason, it's pretty viable and something I would do myself. It seems a good idea to me to go with a tip from someone who knows someone involved with the horse for instance etc etc then me just pretend I have a clue what I'm doing and then go with the 3rd favourite for valuooooo or the one that has a jockey on I know.

2.00 Folkstone...MASSIVE GAMBLE LANDED

Hunt Ball 8/1 this morning....backed into 6/4

Raman get your bleeding act together please  ;)

Yes, I would disagree with that, Ray - strongly!

Surely it's common knowledge that jockeys, trainers, stable boys, "conections" generally, are the world's worst "tipsters"?

Invert the problem Ray. In a typical 8 runner race, the connections of 6 of the horses fancy their chances. They can't all win! The other 2 are "not off", but can hardly fess that up, so just say "we fancy ours today".

Next time someone gives you a tip, use a pin instead. Your results will be no worse.

Its not been a good day, hit the crossbar with a few but that means nothing.

I was disappointed by Shane Kelly on Ability N Delivery, he had an ideal pitch coming off the turn for home but seemed to take the horse on a wider than ideal course and allowed 2 other including the winner to come and take his ground, I'm not saying that it would have won but would have placed I think. 

I have topped up on Can Do Les to lace 5 points @ 2.02.

When I was going through the Wolverhampton card last night the 4:50 was a race I never felt too confident about and chewed over a few, I am surprised by the money that's come for Frederickthegreat, I think that's a horse that will prosper over further.  The one I was interested in was Maybeagrey and have now had a bet on this 1pt win @ 11 and 4 pts place @ 3.0

Hi Raman
Will you be updating the balance like Redarmi used to at the end of each day/week/month?
So we can see the long term picture as I love seeing overall the margins.

Yes mate, I will do that each day.  I have set up an excel document for this as well showing the selections/prices/stake and returns to make the admin site of things easy. 

cool GLGLGl

Pretty meh day, could have been worse had it not been for a top up and an additional bet in the afternoon. 

Balance is 494.75 points so a loss of 5.25 points on the day.  Going into the last 2 races I was still confident we could turn a profit especially when the money came flooding in for Boa in the 5:20, I was really expecting a big run but it just petered out. 

Here is hoping to a better day tomorrow. 

Other than Cheltenham I very rarely bet on horses, too hard to win imo but I don't mind knocking it in one week of the year as Cheltenham is fun times, I have to go one year. I only really have an interest in betting on football, and even that's pretty rare, mostly just when I can't resist the value of getting double odds, max bet plzzzzzzzzz, and I run pretty good with that.

12:10  Lingfield – Dazzling Begum – speculative punt based on its running for the first mile in a race at southwell over 12 furlongs, seemed to be cruising along well but jockey was never happy and after the first mile he was scrubbed along a little before being dropped out last.  It won’t take a lot to win this race and the selection is a few lbs lighter than last winning mark.  1.25 pt e/w @16/1

12:40 Lingfield – I am having a small win bet on Galiotto 2.25 points @ 100/30 as I think it’s the best horse in the race based on previous form and  is certainly the most consistent in the field.  I have also had word that the Jim Boyle trained Sioux City Sue could be one to have on side.  A combination of step up in trip, application of cheek pieces and switch to handicaps might just bring out enough improvement to see this one take some steps forward 1pt e/w @16/1.

1:10 Lingfield – Drawnfromthepast- I had this one in the book from a good while back and backed it last time when it was under par when finishing 4/9 at Wolves in a 5f sprint, however I think the switch in stable will bring about the improvement.  Everything else ticks the box for me in terms of jockey, previous form, and ideal draw.  Its my nap for the day and will be having 3 points win @ 4.9 and 7 points place @ 1.74. 

2:15 Lingfield – Dazzling Valentine – Is well in at the weights I feel and one that impressed me when winning earlier in the year, it never got home over 14 furlongs the last time and although 12 furlongs will be testing for her I am hopeful of a big run 1pt e/w @ 16/1

2:50 Lingfield – Norville – Is a tough and genuine type and always seems to try his hardest, I have won a few quid on this horse over the last year and I think back in handicaps it has the opportunity to go well at a fairly big price.  Decent young claimer onboard taking a valuable 5lbs off as well 1pt e/w @22/1

3:20 – Lingfield – Eager to Bow – I think I posted this one on here when it ran last?  It finished 4th that day after getting going late, it was bustled a long early which I don’t think suited and never really managed to get a position until late in the race and he came with a thundering run.  This stable has traditionally done well with these types of horses and contrary to popular opinion I don’t think been drawn on the wide outside is a hinderance to this horse.   3pts e/w @ 12/1

1:55 – Southwell – Sirgarfields Sober – Was a useful performer on the flat upto 12 furlongs but seemed to have been out of sorts on last few runs, hopefully he is reinvigorated for the switch to hurdles and if he is could go well at a biggish price 0.5pt e/w @ 50/1.  Also in this race I am giving a chance to Hits Only Jude – another horse I have done well with on the flat and in truth he owes me nothing but he is related to a fairly useful hurdler and if he takes to obstacles he could also represent some value 0.5pt e/w @ 40/1

3:00 – Southwell – Ruby Valentine – Well weighted on best of form, an inadequate trip last time out never really helped and I am pretty sure that the extra 3 furlong will see her back in the frame and could go very close to winning  2.5 pts e/w@ 15/2.

I also have 3 doubles on today Drawnfromthpast (4/1) & Ruby Valentine (15/2) 1pt e/w, Drawnfromthepast (4/1) & Eager to Bow (12/1) 1.5pts e/w, Eager To Bow(12/1) and Norville (22/1) 1pt e/w.

Sigh, I though Sirgarfieldssober was going to get a place there.   

Id generally agree with tikays post about heeding others advice and particularly stable advice but there have been times when Ive spotted a 'tell' and profited from stable connections.

Once was at Carlisle races when Mary Reveley had two runners in the same race. Me and a mate were watching the horses in the pre parade ring when we saw the stable girls shove some cash together and one of them made her way to the on course bookies. It looked like they were making an investment on the race and felt worthwhile to check out their thoughts. We followed the young lady and after a while waiting for the best price she lumped it on the 'second string' which was hovering around the 12/1 price.

Stable staff are not the best paid and it was a was a tidy sum for them so we felt why not and followed suit. The nag duly delivered and we made a very nice profit.

Alas the reverse has also been the case and stable information been very expensive to follow.

Think I might have a cry. 

Balance 475.93 points  - Daily loss 18.82 points. 

Market on who Ramen is in real life.

Glasgow Bandit - 5/4
Scottish Dave - 7/4
Tom Segal - 1000000/1

Hope things turn around soon.

really?

Nope - just a jokey comment on his results so far.

Scottish Dave would never back anything bigger than 2/1.

nico the 2nd?

I´m surprised by Tikay´s posts. Would you advise against listening to advice on sports betting as well? Specific posters on the RWC and NFL threads for example are absolutely miles in front. A good current example is the lads getting the First touchdown scorer value every single week, it´s outstanding tipping. Surely it´s no different to any other walk of life, working harder and applying more intelligence than your competitors will yield results.

No, not at all. (sports betting etc). But listening to random (& invariably, losing) punters giving horse tips - " a mate told me this one is off today" is the short cut to Carey Street.

I agree as to the work ethic, though that's very different to lazy listening.

Winning bets =/= great value though. Of course they could be making tons of good bets over in the NFL thread (I don't know tbh, I haven't properly looked at them and tried pricing them) but for the majority of posters I imagine, their 'tips' are going to be -EV (keep in mind here also the relatively small sample size of FTS considering the average odds involved). Tips are, in general, bad (again, not to say that they *can't* be good) because those who are good at pricing stuff up in general don't post it - why would you give away an edge? It's akin to teaching the fish.

Where have all these horsey threads come from...... I miss the days of Keith or Brent popping up twice a month and giving big boy tips!

Why can't I explain myself that well?

I think the majority of people here have progressed a long way from the days when punting was thought to be about picking winners, there are several very shrewd identifiers of value who regularly post on the forum.

On the NFL FTD they are identifying value each and every week by reacting faster and more intelligently to team news than the bookies are. I am talking specifically in this instance about the Leeds lads, they are shrewd guys with a very good handle on what the right price should be.

+1

Fair enough, as I said it's certainly not impossible that certain posters are shrewd. Also, it does seem from reading Blonde that the betting forum is skewed to 'shrewd' rather than 'mug' (less posting 'I'm on this 20-team acca' anyway!)

Printer ink will be dry before this thread makes money.

lol nice post, when I was talking about shrewd guys from Leeds I wasn´t thinking of Girgy.

Apologies to Raman for the thread derail. Very best of luck with this I´ve enjoyed your contribution to the forum so far and very much hope this goes well..

i lol'd girdy

More chance this thread will make money than you losing your virginity. 

Its not been the best start, but I am confident things will be back on track soon. Its not like we're doing chunks in. 

This always happens dont worry the trolls soon get bored. Let him do his thing :)

Try telling my Dad and me who scooped a nice win at weekend thanks to 4 high price places :O

no need to get personal Raman was just a joke son.

This thread is getting epic!!!!

loooooooooool. PWND.

hardly pwnd pretty poor imo

sorry Girgles....

you wiz PWND.

Personally I would say that it's a little early to completely dismiss the chances of either.

Even if bank went busto probably still +EVNS in the match bet. 

My Internet connection has been terrible tonight.  I can't get pages to load and I am having trouble placing bets, I have been on the phone to my ISP and its not going to be sorted soon so unless I can get bets on via phone tomorrow I am probably going to have to take the SP on my selections and have my bets with the local shops.  Which isn't so good.

I have only bothered to look at Uttoxeter so far  in any detail as with limited internet it makes certain things a lot more difficult to check that I'd like to know before confidently getting involved.  Anyway my Uttox selections are below.   I will update on prices as and when.

12:40 uttox – Off The Ground  2pts e/w @ 8/1
13:10 uttox – Goodwood Starlight 3pts e/w @ 8/1
13:40 uttox – Don’t Tell Sailor 3pts e/w @ SP
14:10 uttox – Spiritual Art 1pt e/w @ 25/1, White Diamond 2.5pts e/w  @ 7/1
14:40 uttox – Trafalgar 5pts e/w @ SP
15:30 Catt –   Walser 2pts e/w, Edmund 2pts e/w

15.30 race Catterick?

Yea, its Catterick, Edmund is a N/R.

Updated last nights post, took me 20 minutes to do so!!  No internet is so tilting.

Finisk Rose 1.5pt e/w @ 10/1 - 12:50 Hereford
Godsmejudge  2pts e/w @ 15/2 - 13:50 Hereford
Galantos - 1pt e/w @ 14/1 - 14:20 - Hereford
Hillforts Gloria - 2pts e/w @ 9/1 - 15:20 - Hereford
Ina Point - 3.5pts e/w @ 8/1- 15:50 - Hereford

Weeee popped into town backed goodwood nice scoop7/1

Nice one mate, I hope you got on Don't Tell Sailor also. 

Great call with Don't tell sailor

Did you see it DRIFT

Dam only there for 5mons but happy with my 4ew on it. A wins a win cheers

When i looked at the race I was really keen on the the horse but I thought the tissue price was a bit short.   And with my internet problems I was finding it hard to keep upto date with what was really going on and this morning I still wasn't happy with the price I thought it might drift slightly, but not as much as it did.   I was expecting 13/2 or about there.

Lets go Trafalgar, 1 brick and 2 binks in a lucky 15. could be nice. if i was on singles i would be freerolling now. sigh. good work Raman.

On for micro trebles so need one of the last 2 to win £20+ (£60+ if walsall wins) for a £1 stake

EW on Runaway harry for back up. Obv routing for Trafalgar.

Is Girgy in a betting shop watching this? :P

Trafalgar is your best bets bud, and its going okay so far.  I never took a price about that as it was another I thought might drift slightly and the market has gone exact opposite from what I expected. 

There's been a 2 hour enquiry into off the grounds running , just watched it on attheraces replays and it was lol ride murphy gave it worth watching again ;) great day though wp

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. Just found out Off the ground was 4th, one place off a 2k+ bink. Still not complaining. 3 wins in a Lucky 15. Back on track Raman. Fuck the haters.

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I did the first 5 at uttox in trebles and upwards EW so its a nice profit! If only we clips have scooped another place! Cheers anyway mate!

Yeah I was really disappointed with the running of this one.  Most definitely one to watch when going further. 

wiiiiii got the treble; was gonna go in for £10 which woulda been £200 but cant complain... freerolling on the last race for another £123

There are 2 in the last race that I think might run well.  I am not going mad on them though as I don't want to undo what has so far been a very good day.

3:40 Uttox - Richard the Third and Tisftreetdream both @ 14/1 1pt e/w.  If anyone is watching the race have a look at how Tisfreetdream runs, it has won off much higher weights in the past and it might be one worth siding with in future if it shows anything today. 

Oh shit. Qualitee has put me on to a decent sweat!! HILL FORTS GLORIA and INA POINT to place plzzzzzzzzzzz

Good work Raman.

Definitely back on track...nice bets today

rofl why would i be?

Close might have been 4th

Yeah it finished 4th,  seemed to be going really well but weakened in the final 2 furlong of the race.  One I will be keeping an eye on though. 

Todays stake: 65 points
Todays  Return:  116.52 points
Total Bank: 527.45 points

Profit/Loss + 27.45 points. 

Nice days work!

Short term tongue action at Tikay

 ;nana;

long may it live on!

Requisite -6:30 Kempton 1.5pts e/w 12/1
Speak the Truth 7:00 Kempton 1pt e/w

In the 7:30 I wanted to be with Macks Sister but really missed the value with that as was available at bigger prices earlier the other I had on my shortlist was Torres Del  Plaine 1 pt e/w @16/1.

3 x 0.5pts e/w doubles.

nice start

Grrrrr :(

Thought we were gonna get that.

Unlucky there with speak the truth.

Got a little profit though.

Backed Speak The Truth on the nose for small stakes, thanks for sweat.

Unlucky buddy. 

There is unlikely to be anything up for tomorrows jump meetings.  I am not staying home this evening and I have a hospital visit tomorrow.  I should get a few selections up for the meeting at Wolves.  I'll have a look at the day meets but won't be getting involved unless something really takes my fancy. 

Royal Bajan 6:30 Wolves  1pt e/w 7/1
Crew Cut 7:00 Wolves 1.5pts e/w 8/1
Cardinal 7:30 Wolves  1.5 pts e/w @ 14/1

On Cardinal... Do us a win/2nd!

Will update running totals tomorrow, out the house again. 

Felt we were a tad unlucky tonight especially with Cardinal, I think that's definitely one for the notebook.  I haven't checked the full result yet to see where it eventually finished but we did finish the race off with some promise. 

01/12/2011 results.

Daily - 2.5 points
Balance 537.95 points
Profit/Loss + 37.95 points

Should this be -3.5

Total staked 8 pts   1 horse placed at 8/1 1.5pts = 4.5pts return at qtr odds = 3.5pts loss??

15:40 -Sandown Five Rivers - 2pts e/w - 12/1
13:30 - Exeter Pass Me By - 0.95 points place - 8.4
13:30 - Exeter Diamond Brook - 1.5 pts e/w - 9/1
14:05 - Exeter Franklin Roosevelt - 0.5 pts e/w 33/1
14:40 - Exeter Rome Americo - 1.25 pts e/w 16/1
15:15 - Eseter Glens Boy - 2.75 pts e/w 11/1
15:50 - Exeter Daisy Daze - 2.5 pts e/w 25/1
12:10 - Lingfield Star Kingdom 1.5pts e/w 9/2
12:40 - Lingfield Vickers Vimmy 1pt e/w 13/2
13:10 - Lingfield It’s A Girl Thing 2pts win 6.6
13:10 - Lingfield Chignon 1.5 pts win 5.0
14:20 - Lingfield Nibani 1pt e/w 16/1

Daily outlay - 22.45 points

I only have 7 points staked on my spreadsheet mate.  Unless I have done a miss-type.  But I always update that first so I don't miss out on any prices that I like. 

01/12/2011   18:30 - Wolves   Royal Bajan   1pt e/w
                   19:00 - Wolves   Crew Cut    1.5pts e/w
                   19:30 - Wolves   Cardinal   1pt e/w

32.45

Fwiw this is my list of bets so far today:

Aines Delight @ 9/2 330 Ling
Benbane Lad @ 7/1 230 Sand
e/w Formidable guest @ 7/2 330 Ling
e/w Pingaro de la Vire @ 10/3 315 Exe
 e/w Daring Indian @ 5/1 220 Ling
Zaynar @ 9/2 100 Exeter
walkon @ 3.10 100 Exeter
Ambion Wood @ 3.15 205 Exe
Greywell Boy @ 9/2 205 Exe
 Lujeanie @ 4/1 255 Ling
e/w Nibani @ 16/1 220 Ling
e/w Quasi Congaree @ 8/1 255 Ling

Being the abso mug punter i am I have a ew Lucky 15, ew Heinz and two decent ish EW Singles. Davey wants a new house. lets gogogo.

Your aiming to low!

Goliath
494 lines at £0.05 per line
Total stake for this bet: £24.70
Potential returns: £1,000,000.00
No: O/21225766/0001080

lol. vwp. glgl. Got a decent outlay today. hoping for a sweat. (even picked out a few trebles out of redarmis.)

I feel dirty having just gone for singles :(

The best bit of the slow roll is that Paddy Power obv cant handle the figures as they are so large.

Actual Potential Returns should show £71,395,224.96

lol, yeah but they'll only pay you 1mill if it all comes in :)

http://www.paddypower.com/iframe/content_terms_popup_en.html

capped at £700k

OBv 700k would be nice and Bopkin would be delighted with it but I really hope everything comes in for him so that he'll be sick over losing 70mill :)

aslgdjf

Hang on

Why does the max bet limit not reflect this.

Is that 700k per line or have I just wasted a few quid and should have done this to 2p instead of the crazy heights of 5p?

thats what i did the other week on a Lucky 31, but then when a couple place instead of binking you hate yourself for lowering your stake! VC is 1 milli anyways. wiiiiiiiiiiii

total max payout...all the bookies do this mate. Max payout for high street bookie is 1mill on any given bet, I believe

Obv they will still take your money for a 70mill-1 shot but they'll only give you a 700k-1 shot even if you have it in an accy. and obv, if one of your selections loses (giving you a 35mill-1 accy or something)..you have a losing bet.

I had an email saying there is a big rollover on the Scoop 6 tomorrow (2.5Million ish ?)

Any chance of the 6 winners please? ;)

I best lower my bets on your Saturday tips then, if one won I would be screwed. ;)

Nice phrasing mate

backed 2 in 120 Sandown.  Loch ba @ 3/1 and Silver Accord @bsp

Not the best of days today, just had a quick readover the results as I've been out doing the Christmas shopping today, that was another right off. 

I will watch the racing later but early indications are I never even came close with anything. 

6:40 Wolves 1pt e/w Pastures New 28/1
7:10 Wolves 5pt e/w Maven @ 8/1

Had a £5 ew on Maven cheers Raman

Wp Raj, brought a horrific day for me to 15 down which is just as good as booking a win!

Your right mate, I was in a rush this morning and my sums were out, I need to format my spreadsheet so that it does the sums for me. 

Todays totals:

Staked - 44.45 points
returns - 64.5 points
profit/loss + 57 points

Really difficult day for the Scoop 6 I think, I have stuck up an interest thread for doing a blonde syndicate for a sweat but the below would be my selections in the race.  I have tried not to go down the route of what I perceive to be value and try and just find the winner.   

Race 1 : 1.25 Sandown - Drumbaloo, Poungach
Race 2 : 2.10 Aintree - Abbeybraney, Hello Bud
Race 3 : 2.30 Sandown - Mister No, Edgardo Sol
Race 4 : 3.05 Sandown - Sizing Europe
Race 5 : 3.20 Aintree - Stewarts House, Linnel
Race 6 : 3.40 Sandown - Deep Purple, Do It For Dalkey

cheers for that.

hi raman ... I'm new to this and the reason I registered was because of you I've been backing horses for a long time with not much luck so I thought I would give a tip a try and backed maven and it won so thank you for that !! I was wondering if you could give me a tip for any meeting at any time for tomorrows racing

Thank you

floorboards in the 3:20

Its absolutely nailed on.

12:00 - Aintree - High Office 1pt e/w
12:35 - Aintree - Wyse Hill Teabags 2pts e/w @ 9/2
14:10 - Aintree - Abbeybraney 2pts e/w @ 14/1
15:20 - Aintree - Linnel 1.5pts e/w @ 7/1
12:25- Chepstow - Nodebateaboutit 0.25pts e/w
13:00 - Chepstow - The Gossmoor Yank 4pts e/w @ 8/1
14:05 - Chepstow - Le Beau Bai 1pt e/w @16/1
14:40 - Chepstow - Mauricetheathlete 1pt e/w @ 12/1
15:15 - Chepstow - Plein Pouvoir  1.5pts e/w @ 18/1,  Massini Sunset 1pt e/w @ 22/1
15:45 - Master of Sea 3.5pts e/ @ 5/1

12:55 - Sandown - Black Thunder 2pt e/w @ 6/1
13:25 - Sandown - Drumbaloo 2pt e/w, Safran De Cotte  3.5 pts e/w @ 9/1
14:30 - Sandown - Mister No 3pts e/w @ 16/1

02.Dec 2011 18:45    Wolverhampton 19:10    Outright Betting, Maven, 8/1    Won    
          Single £3.26 EW, 1 bets, £6.52         39.12


wee high roller :( lumped it all on Aidan White, 33/1 First Goalscorer.

Where is Hopkin? one of my bets today returns 480 milli. Goliaths ftw.

Hopkin didnt sleep well but is waking up now ready for a monster bet

updated my bets for today as the one I liked at Chepstow I have managed to get on.

Might just get out of it for today.  Than you Maurice!!

Le Beau Bei won as well. I think Black Thunder and Safran de cotte placed, so should be in profs? obv i had the 4 in 2 different bets which hurts, otherwise it could have been a huge sweat. Singles next week for me. Putting an end to the greed.

i think Fine parchment has a fair chance in the 3.20 aintree . ran well here before will  and from a form line with a horse called Swing Bill has the beating of Stewards house in this race who's  the Fav
 @ 14/1 ive a small bet

Nice place with Massini

Had the 3rd and 4th there bud. 

Linnel really should have won the last at Aintree. 

Yea, took the last terribly and struggled to get composed again. time to have a couple of gambles and make myself some profs i think.

All in on Master of Sea to get out for the day :D

gl. i'm on Your turn now ew

Wolverhampton it is then :D

Todays results.

Staked 56.5 points
Returned 74.01 points
Daily profit - 17.51 points

Total profit/loss + 74.51 points

nice going kutgw.

Cheers fella.

I'm off out to the inlaws for dinner this evening, I'd prefer to be sat watching Wolves on ATR. 

I have a few selections for this evening. 

5:50 Small John 1pt e/w @ 14/1
6:20 National Hero 2.5pts e/w
6:50 Going Grey 1.5pts e/w @ 11/1
7:50 Sarahs Art 1pt e/w @ 16/1
8:50 Sughera 4pts e/w @ 13/2
9:20 Marksbury 1.5 pt e/w @ 28/1

Really excited for tonights racing. Got a feeling its gonna make me a Millionaire. x2 Lucky 31s on. If they are both nose diving by the 3rd then i'm gonna smash the singles. Have fun at the inlaws and lets gogogogo.

I did Betfair's weekend footy bet which I need United to win to get me paid and I'm gonna bet on those profits coming for the night :D

Lucky I didn't get weighed in for my MON bet earlier today or I'd prob have knocked it in this afternoon :D

Doubled my money on ya picks today cheers Raj

following on from Leatherman's and Milligan's sick sweats from last week i placed 3 lucky 15's on today and more than trebled my stake.

cheers Raj, good work!

Come on then Marksbury get us paiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid!!

Taken 33/1.. Run it home!

Ah well I couldn't even watch it either, I guess the cameras must have been down at Wolverhampton....

I might miss tomorrow as I'm gonna be up until UFC finishes and only slept for a couple hours this morning before getting up.

Good luck everyone tomorrow hope you get the lot!!

Will update last nights totals and todays later on but for now just the 3 bets as I'm cooking a Sunday dinner. 

2:00 Kelso - Chief Dan George 1pt e/w @ 14/1
2:30 Kelso - Eyre Square 5pts e/w @ 7/1
3:00 Kelso - Seedless 2pts e/w @ 6/1

Today looks like a day of short prices and favs all round. not going well at all for me. Gonna have to pull out a couple of bullets.

Gone big on Hold the pin in 2.50 and Eyre Square to see me good. lets gogogogo.

total staked between last night and today is 39 points.

New running balance is 535.51 points.

Winnnnnnner winnnnnnnnnner chicken dinner!!!


Eyre square. 7-1 winner thanks for the tip pal

wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. freerolling all bets already placed for the rest of the day and night.

That was tighter that I expected when we came over the last, very tiring for the horses out there though. 

04.Dec 2011 14:16    Kelso 14:30    Outright Betting, Eyre Square, 7/1    Won    
          Single £1.68 EW, 1 bets, £3.36         18.06


Weee they all count :) cheers

Saturday evenning & Sunday

Staked - 39 points
Returns - 72.75 points
profit - 33.75 points
Running balance - 608.26 points
Total profit/loss + 108.26 points

Missed it, was seedless close? wp Raman.

Looked the winner 2 out but but dead on its feet on the the run in and it ended up 5 lengths behind in 2nd

solid

Its fairly decent for week 1. 

It won't always be as successful, due to the high variance approach I take of backing horses at livelier prices. 

However I would hope that if the people who are following my selections have some discipline and have a proper bank will continue to be ahead at the end of the week. 

13:20 Muss - Destiny Blue 1.5pts e/w @ 7/1
13:50 Muss - Vallani 2pts e/w @ 5/1
14:20 Muss -Bridlingtonbygones 1pt e/w @ 9/1
15:20 Muss - Mill Bay 1pt e/w @ 8/1
13:00 Lingfield - Red Hermes 1.5pt e/w @ 13/2
13:30 Lingfield - Stevie Gee 3pts e/w @ 11/2
14:00 Lingfield - Daruband 1.25 pts e/w @ 20/1
15:30 Lingfield - Warbond 1pt e/w @ 33/1
13:40 Plumpton - Pepite Rose 1pt e/w @ 10/1
14:10 Plumpton - She's Humble 1.75 pts e/w @ 14/1
15:40 Plumpton - Prime Location 3.5 pts e/w @ 9/2
14:30 Lingfield - Encore Un Fois 2.26 pts WIN @ 4/1

Todays stake 39.26 points!

Raman, briefly flicking through your results do you happen to keep a track of what meets you have higher strike rate at etc, think it looked like you are a beast at Uttoxeter. GL to you and everyone who follows.

Gotta back this.

Apparently good info on Sovento 3pm Lingfield

Lay

Not really, with the number of runners there aren't going to be three places paid, It would simply have been a 2pt win.  The only reason I have included it is I had a note on it from a while back when the horse was with Luca Cumani but I missed it last time out when it switched stable.

The .26 remaining was just to try and tidy up my spreadsheets a bit.

If you like

2/1 max bet £10 at Milligans Bookies.

I don't keep records like that as such.  I concentrate simply on my profit/loss.  As I am looking for potential improvers on most occasions I don't really bother too much were they run, unless the course runs left/right handed to where the horse ran previously and obviously I take into consideration the trip.  Like today for example Musselburgh is a fairly easy course so a horse that has maybe done best over 2 miles shouldnt find 18 or 20 furlongs too hard going there.  

I would think over the long term I show a greater return on the all weather particularly Wolverhampton and Lingfield.  

In the past week Uttoxeter has seen decent returns.  

Stevie Gee is a massive drifter here.  I never foreseen this, thanks be to Best Odds Guaranteed though.

Had a word for Bridlingtonbygones, obv we all know how reliable these can be. But have pressed a bit. lets gogogo.

I'm on

let me know how we do. i can't see a tv. i thought it should have finished by now..

No good

She's Humble drifted to 20s and placed which is nice. [  ] was on it as a single..


Bleurgh. Shit day. Mondays tilt me to death.

Who is going to be the get out horse of the day then now? Eyre Square did the bizz yesterday.

I'm gonna just get on the NFL instead :D

Prime Location, hopefully.

I did a misclick and realised i backed matey for first TD twice instead of first and last. fmmfl

Prime location ftw.

:(

Fk it I'm on Sovento to try and get out early!!

A ton of dough for Hopkin's nag

Nice ;)

Oioi what a ride that was Cheers Mr Hopkin :)

Norrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Never not listening to Hopkin again. NEVER EVER

Lol

Not even sure why you decided not to? Last couple I have put up as tips have been winners.

I can only take it as a personal offence.

 :'(

Fuck it, so everyone can watch me crash and burn in style. my remaining bets =
1530 Regal Rave EW
1530 Warbond EW

1540 Prime Location EW
1540 Ballylifen ew
and Reverse forecast

All boks welcome.

Ok lets go Prime Locationnnnnnnnnnnnnn

I topped up on Prime Location, I had another 3pts e/w @ 5/1 I managed to get on just before the Betfair money cameand the price shortened right up.  

Load of money trying to get on Tidal Dance

Urrrrgh.

29.41 point lost today. 

Eurgh Ballylifen was 2nd at 20s, please tell me it wasn't close.

Looks like i am heading over to virtual racing. Anyone got any tips for the next at Chandlerpark?

It was a head-bobbing finish, honestly.

I'm doing my bolox at chandlerpark. A race every 2 mins, had 2 places and a brick. Fun though and you can watch every race. working for a living is fun.

[  ] Working for nothing is fun.

S/well - 12:00 - Prince of Versa - 1.5 pts e/w @ 12/1
S/well - 13:00 - Dancing Freddy - 2pts e/w @ 10/1
S/well - 13:30 - Island Legend - 1pt e/w @ 10/1
S/well - 14:00 - Tilos Gem  - 4pts e/w @ 6/1
S/well - 14:30 - Horatio Carter - 2.5 pts e/w @ 8/1
S/well - 15:00 - Tobrata - 2.75 pts e/w @ 9/1
S/well - 15:30 - Adam De Beaulieu - 2pts e/w @ 12/1
S/Field - 13:50 - Red Mercury - 2pts e/w @ 12/1
S/Field - 14:20 - Mansonien L'as - 3.5 pts e/w @ 9/2
S/Field - 15:20 - Turbolinas - 4pts e/w @ 11/2
F/Well - 12:40 - Hi Note - 1pt e/w @ 16/1
F/Well - 14:10 - Watergate 2pts e/w @ 4/1
F/Well - 14:40 - Rosoff 3pts e/w @ 6/1
F/Well - 15:10 - Billy Murphy 1.5pts e/w @ 12/1
F/Well - 15:40 - Ladyvie 1pt e/w @ 14/1

Staked - 66.5 points.

2 from 2 placed today. wpwp. gutted i am on singles though, could have been a mega sweat.

Well i have got the southwell place pot for £3 so that should cover me for the day.

8 places, 5 bricks, 2 to run, lets go Adam de Beaulieu and Ladyvie had a couple of lucky 31s 2 bricked in each so far, if i had picked out of your selections a different way round could have been a massive day. glgl in the final 2.

thats my prob. too many selections to slip in a lucky 15 etc..

Today has been a bit of a sigh out loud day. 

A few have gone really close and not made the place money, we just missed out with Tobrata as well.  The 2 major disappointments for me were Tilos Gem and Horatio Carter.

I have shifted the 2pts e/w from Adam De Beaulieu onto Ladyvie .

Nice job.

Same, doubled down on Ladyvie. Lets gogogogogogo.

Go on then, i will double up the Ladyvie  LOL

It is not very often that I will do a Lucky 15/31 etc, its just giving money to the bookmakers.  They love punters placing these bets, stick to singles, doubles and the occasional treble and if you really want to go for it then roll up a few different 4/5 pick e/w accas.  Even for small stakes getting one of these up every so often will cover you well.  

Massively agree, its a mug game, people just see the returns and get stars in their eyes. [  ] I am no mug punter.

just tried to triple down on ladyvie and got told betting has been suspended. let me know how we do???!??!?!??

Fek it, doing the donkey work

Donkeying with 11-9 is no good

Third

Sigh dont know which horse I was watching then!

sigh, my triple down would have been nice. over to Marseille.

15.1 point loss today.  Not so great. 

You aint gonna win em all.

15.1 loss with no winners aint bad also.

Isn't that to some extent, the case with each way bets though?
Have you tried working out what your return is on the win portion of your bets, versus the return on the each way bit?

Was wondering about this too.  I don't know much, but isn't it throwing money away putting an e/w bet on anything with less than 8/1 odds?  Fine and well if the horse wins, but if not - at quarter the odds or worse, you're handing the bookies money.  No?

5/1 surely?

Like I said, I've no clue.  Understanding in my own head was at 8/1 or better, if they place at the very least you get all your bet back.  At 5/1 you're only getting the 'place' side of the bet back and handing over the 'win' side to the bookies.  No?

Horse priced 5/1

1 point win

1 point place

2 points staked

Comes second

1/5th EW odds

2 points returned....break even

Or have I missed something?

You get your 'place' bet point back plus the winning point?  If that's the case, then I've learned something new. 

Or 4/1 depending on how many runners.

Backing e/w on lesser odds is for the bigger players when they are very confident of a big run.

it gives them some insurance on there initial outlay if there fancy just gets turned over.

I don't expect to win them all but just frustrated by how close some came to the place and one came to the win. 

Regards some of the other posts, personally I have always preferred betting e/w.  I just think it gives you more insurance.  Especially the way I bet.  I am generally trying to find horses that will improve on what they have shown before at bigger prices.  I could probably take a less risk adverse strat and pick out shorter priced horses but over the longer term I think this dilutes any profits. 

My question wasn't odds related............. there are obviously situations at short odds where an each way bet can be the most profitable option.

My understanding is that each way bets are generally  more profitable for the layer, than win only bets.
Therefore, if we do all, or almost all, of our bets each way, we are taking a less profitable strategy.

I'm no expert though, and I could be misinterpreting stuff that I have read.

This is incorrect, some of the best value bets you´ll ever see will be the place portion of an e/w bet in an 8/9 runner race at odds considerably shorter than 4 or 5/1.

I understand that there are very profitable e/w situations.
I am questioning whether it is better as a general strat. to punt to win, or to punt each way. (i.e. default one way or the other, and only vary this if there is a clear reason to do so).

Also, the scenario you mention is not applicable to the majority of Raman's bets.

BTW Raman, not having a go.... I do have your thread open when picking my bets for the day.

High street bookmakers prefer the straight win punter to the e/w punter.

13:10 - Lingfield - Finefrenzyrolling - 2pts e/w @ 5/1
14:10 - Lingfield - Time Medicean - 1.5pts e/w @ 25/1
14:40 - Lingfield - Ecossaise - 2pts e/w @ 12/1
15:40 - Lingfield - Dichoh - 1.5pts e/w @ 12/1
13:00 - Leicester - Nazreef 2pts e/w @ 11/1
15:00 - Christopher Wren - 4pts e/w @ 7/2
14:20 - Hexham - Soul Bid - 1pt e/w @ 20/1
15:20 - Hexham - Domoly 3pts e/w @ 7/1

Not may selections for me today.  I may get involved in a few other races just as win bets but they are not for the purpose of this thread but if anything pops up will stick it up. 

I really wanted to be with Kiss a Prince today, I was very impressed by how well it ran last time and how well the apprentice done not to get a place but @ 7/2 its not a bet for me.  If I'd managed to get some of the 11/1 that Eso says was available yesterday I would have maxed out. 

Have a look at Not Bad for a Boy in the 550 Kemp....will not go off at 5/1 for sure.

Cut the Cackle and Sovento both running again at Kempton this evening.
Just had a text but no indication of how good they will be, both returned a profit last time though

I have had 10 points on Code Blue @ 1.7 to place in the 2:50 Hexham.

This was one I really wanted to back earlier as it has form over  C&D on Heavy going but the price this morning wasn't what I was looking for now for a horse that was around 11/4 there is some value in the place imo.

That was a heart in mouth race at one point! 

Staked 44 points
Returned 56.9 points
Profit 12.9 points
Running profit/loss + 76.65 points

Only 7 runners in this race now, when I first looked at it I liked the top weight but I will be taking a watching brief only. 

5:50 - Kempton - Weeod - 1.65 points @ 7.5 to place. 

This is just a pure speculator on my part.  I like the top weight ftw when I read over the race earlier, but not too keen on the price. 

Had a decent day today, although I never put any selections on this thread I shared a few on the other threads.  Which seen me well in profit for today. 

So I'm going to have a dabble tonight. 

In the first race I can't see past the favourite and I am actually tempted to back it. But couldn't suggest to anyone else that there is any value in betting it. 

Balance 575 points.

4:30 Kempton - Khun John 2.5 pts e/w @ 14/1
5:00 Kempton - Jane Lachatte 2pts e/w @ 8/1
6:30 Kempton - Clear Praise 1pt e/w @ 16/1
7:00 Kempton - Brian sprout 2pts e/w @ 7/1

0.20pts e/w Lucky 15.

5:30 Kempton - Bubbles 3pts win @ 100/30
6:00 Kempton - Blackmore 2pts win @ 11/2

Total of 26 points staked. 

Last night was a bit of a non event.

There isn't much that jumps out at me today in terms of representing much value. 

3:10 - Southwell - Sandwith 1.5pts e/w @ 9/1
1:35 - Doncaster - Missionaire 1pt e/w @ 12/1
2:10 - Doncaster - Classical Mist - 2pts e/w @ 7/1
2:45 - Doncaster - Deuteronomy  4pts e/w @ 11/2
3:30 - Cheltenham - Akideau 2.5pts e/w @ 16/1

after the highs and lows of late, I am small balling from now on, so have a small ew acca, permed doubles and a canadian. £20 a day as opposed to £20 ew on every horse i see. GL all.

Missionaire was disgusting, at least thought we were gonna hold for a place.

FFS! 

Made all the running and couldn't find anything at the death :(

we really should start backing these to come 2nd. if Missionaire had held i could have been having an ok sweat.

Think berbice will go off a lot shorter than 3/1 in the 540.

£20 a day is still being a Balla mate, i'm just goin to have few quid every saturday with Raj's Hot Picks..
Craving another 13K sweat.. ;)

[ ] I've finally worked out these lucky 15's etc..
Went to collect last week which i thought was only a couple of quid and tbh nearly just chucked it in bin.. Hand the slip to the cashier thinking its about £5 max and she say's "Thats £47 then" I then said "yeh thats what i worked it out at" :)

I had a £20 e/w acca on the 5 mate.  Just for shits and giggles, now it feels just shit lol.

Few for tonight at Wolves, I'll do the tally up later.

4:10 Una Vita Pius  2pts e/w @ 14/1
5:10 Music Festival 2pts e/w @ 8/1
5:40 Fleetwood Sands 1pt e/w @ 8/1
6:10 Quixote  3.5 pts e/w @ 10/1
6:40 Monsieur Broughton 1pt e/w @ 16/1
7:10 Brouhaha 2.5pts e/w @ 11/1

Close to a decent bink on my first small ball, returned a small loss, On pretty much same again, small acca, perm ew doubles and tiny ew heinz for £22.46. this small balling is more fun then putting your bollox on the line and chasing losses all day. One day, we will hit all of these. Next Uttoxeter meet imo.

I love watching races like that where our horse tears on through to take it up, just a shame he couldn't quite hold off the fave at the line :(

On this Broughtons with my place profits @ 33s so one time etc..

Time to get this back on track.

Balance is 533.35 points.

2:00 - S/well - Flying Pickets 3.5 pts e/w @ 7/2
2:30 - S/well - Brio - 2.5pts e/w @ 12/1
3:30 - S/well - Dunmore Boy 1.5 pts e/w @ 20/1
2:15 - H/Ford - Epee Celeste 4pts e/w @ 7/1
2:45 - H/Ford - Lucky Breeze 1pt e/w @ 20/1
3:15 - H/Ford - Childbury 1pt e/w @ 12/1
3:45 - H/Ford - Rifleman 3pts e/w @ 16/1

Total staked 33 points.

Nice start

WTF - was Shane Kelly thinking of in that race? Obvs never had his dosh down.

3:45 Wolves Mosa Mine 2pts e/w @ 10/1
4:15 Wolves Boa 3pts e/w @ 10/1
5:45 Wolves Pursuing 2pts e/w @13/2
2:00 Fakenham Magic Bishop 3pts e/w @ 15/2
2:30 Fakenham Consult 2pts e/w @ 15/2

I also have 4 x 2pt e/w trebles.

Mosa Mine, Pursuing, Consult
Boa, Magic Bishop, Pursing
Consult, Boa, Pursuing
Boa, Magic Bishop, Mosa Mine

Consult wins there is there is anyone other than McCoy on the other horse imo.  Sighballs.

BUMP

Thoughts on.....

Lingfield 1.50 Clockmaker 4/1
Lingfield 2.20 Circumvent 4/1
Lingfield 2.55 Brigadoon 4/1

"even a stopped clock is right twice a day"......today that is at 150 and 250 ;-).......

Whats that mean? u know im an idiot.

Clockmaker ands Circumvent look to be decent bets.

I'm having really bad internet problems at the mo its taking like 10 minutes for me to make one single post.

In the 2:20 I am with Suits Me 7 Navajo Chief.   The draw might work against Circumvent, and definitely wouldn't put you off. 

I like Brigadoon and at a bigger price i am keen on Beate Route

This thread kind of died a death. 

Certainly any records that I had kept are gone to PC Heaven.  As well as my internet playing up for large parts I had to have the hard drive replaced in the laptop. 

I'm hoping though that we can get this back on track.  So starting today I am replenishing and starting at 500 points, I don't think we were too far away from that when we were stalled.

I will get a few selections up in the next hour or so. 

About time, trying to stop punting but will follow with interest. Also get over to the fatty thread. We need to know how much beef you have lost/gained.

1:30 - Southwell - First in Command 2pts e/w @ 12/1
2:50 - Wolves - Grecian Goddess 1pt e/w @ 12/1
3:20 - Wolves - Aggbag 2pts e/w @ 9/1
3:50 - Wolves - Standoint 3pts e/w @ 6/1
4:50 - Wolves - Miss Cato 4pts e/w @ 7/2

10.4 pt loss on Wednesday.

2:30 Lingfield - Memphis Man @ 12/1  3pts e/w
12:55 Lingfield - Blatchworth Blaise @ 12/1 1.5pt e/w
2:00 - Lingfield - Fantasy Fighter @ 8/1 3pts e/w15:35 - Lingfield - Layline - @ 6/1 2pts ew

0.25pts e/w Lucky 15.

2:05 - Wolves - Blue Noodles 4pts e/w @ 5/1
2:40 - Wolves - Tamareen 2pts e/w @ 6/1
3:15 - Wolves - Georgebernardshaw 1pt e/w @ 33/1
515 - Wolves - Excuse Me - 2pts e/w @ 6/1

e/w Lucky 15  @ 0.5 pts- Fantasy Fighter, Layline, Blue Noodles, Tamareen

59.5 points outlayed today.  

Following my hero Raman on this.

£1ew Lucky 15 pays £4k :D

I have been given the nod for an outsider in the 4:30 @ Wolves. 

Cheers Buddy @ 18.5 on Betfair currently.  I am on for 3pts.  In the same race I had already layed the favourite.

In the 5:30 I have got involved on Belle Josephine.

I'll have a tenner each way with you gl us

petomic and cheers buddy 12 plz

Meh

Picture quality was terrible so hard to judge the performance, seemed to be travelling okay for the first 6 furlongs or so but when push came to shove it found nothing.  Thankfully though Spinning Ridgenever troubled the judge. 

Yeah it's not very easy to see what's going on :D

Land Hawk e/w in the 18:00?

I never looked at the last race in any great detail.  I was thinking of laying the favourite as I have noticed a bit of a trend when Gordon Elliot runs one after a win and its faced with a penalty that they don't seem to perform all that well.

It ran ok, don't think the draw helped though, might keep an eye on it on a same distance race.

Tuibama 2:15 - Southwell looks like a bet to me.  Never showed up much last year but since gelded and likely to fair better in handicaps coming from a fairly shrewed yard.  13/2 looks like we cansqueeze out some profit.  3pts e/w

Edit- opened at 8's even better. 

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Bastard was gonna back freddy there, switching off.

You are picking winners.... More posting please¬!

Had 4 bets today mate.

Flying Appause 2pts e/w @ 6/1 - won
Drive Home 3pts e/w @ 9/2 - 2nd
Hidden Glory 2pts e/w @ 5/1
Lisseltown Cros 1.5pts e/w @ 7/1

.25pt e/w Lucky 15. 

I have justed added Clean Bowled in the 3:30.  2pts win @ 15/8.

nice day.

Well done

There will no doubt be a few bets put up today but one I really want to have on my side is Symphonic Dancer in the opener.

I have had 4 points e/w @ 11/2 so far and might top this up.

Ishiamiracle 2pts e/w @ 11/2

Spic 'n Span 1pt e/w @ 16/1
 

Southell:

2:45 - Saveiro 2pts e/w @ 9/1
3:10 - Taikoo - 2pt e/w @ 7/1
4:25 - Glen Countess 5ts win @ 9/4

2:10 - Leapordstown - Lord Windermere 2pts win @ 8/1
5pts place @ 4.9