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DTD £300 Day 2

50 players left    avg stack 78k   36 paid

Villain is Tall Anon (Pete Linton) and is CL with circa 300k covering our 75k stack.

There is no real history between us other than we both know each other and its the first level of day 2 with blinds at 1200/2400/300, I double up the first hand of the day to get to 75k having made the same raise in a similar pos with  Qd Qc.

Next orbit we raise to 5100 with  Td Tc and it folds to villain in the sb who picks up a stack of purples (5000) and places them across the line setting me all in.

My thoughts are that Pete is one of the best players left in the tournament and if he had a premium holding he 3bets to 11-13k and therefore his range is A10+ and all pairs I crush and he does not want to put himself in a spot where i jam over the 3b plus he thinks I will fold all my range except 99+ AQs AK.

Is my thought process correct?
Standard Call?
Not worried about losing the hand more if this is an easy call or fold but never tell anyone spot..

erm........................ firstly.................... tourney life??????????????


This is such a super snap jump up an down run around the room, roll on the floor, high five everyone........... against any player

Against Linton, multiply by a factor of 63!

i would elect to wager all of my chips

Bless Plinton!

ring me up, tell me my 5% looks very very toasty and then call.

I don't actually mind folding.

You could be flipping.

You could be crushing 88 or 99

You could be crushed by JJ or QQ

I can't see many other hands in his range here.

Your raise size and stack means he's probably set mining the smaller pairs.

With no real history I can happily lay this down. Not because it's for my 'tourney life' but because I'm not a huge favourite against the range I think he's got.

I disagree with the set mining comment. IMO hes more likely to fold 66 and down and ship the gold with 77-JJ here. It cant be a profitable set mine here with 22 oop to a guy with 70k behind right?

he should dedf not be set mining small pairs and should def not be shoving premiums as we have a perfect 4bshove stack. its just such a standard call and given the fact he is so aggro/ool its a super standard fistpump call as we DO dominate alot of his range which i think is primarily pocket pairs. im saying this known the result fwiw.

Almost certainly calling but what position did you raise from?

yeah i fist pumped called even though when he knocked out 2 players on the first orbit he said they were the 6th and 7th flips he had won in a row this tourney, and the result is irelevant just wanted to know it's the correct decision as we have a top 10 stack when we win the flip and can the go ftw

C/O

Oh ye it's going in then.

I see hands this pretty once every 2 yrs, [  ] ever folding them.

can confirm

definately a call imho

this makes it a more of a fold imo.

even when a guy 5 balls me with 34 os and hits a runner runner boat... mbsfn.

please sir, please accept all my betting discs as wagered.

tbh i think vs linton with no history you're always flipping with tt...really dont think hes going to take marginal spots vs unknowns with a 3bet overshove of 30+bbs effective.
He has an edge over the field left so i really dont see him taking this line with a hand other than ak maybe aqs :s.
I think its a pretty bad line taken by him nevertheless...Imo, if you think its close for a call then i just fold, however if i think its a close spot in shoving i always take the aggressive route.

I think too many people are relating to this spot in their own shoes which doesnt make too much sense...If you're as aggro as me then you can never ever fold this, n if your a nit that is only opening top 5% ranges then its a clear fold. It really depends on how you're perceived vs the villian.

However looking info you've given me, i can see 99+ aqs...we do horribly vs this range but I see his range being capped to JJ, if we can pretty much assume this then we're basically taking a huge flip vs that range but with dead money giving us a decent amount of extra edge.

p.s its better to avoid the marginal spots that you're not sure about if you think you're gaining chips in alot of other spots, so if linton was running over your table taking all the spots then GL with TT.

Absolute fistpump snap. Tall anon can show up with the 95s here pretty easily, but even without the crazy aggro opponent, against anyone competant its still a call.

at last sense itt

he really is

huh?

bolded

No he isn't!!

He may have been a year or two ago but the spew's gone out of his game. The only hands he shows up with here that we crush are smaller pairs and I think there's only 88 or 99 that I'd include in that.

A year ago against Pete I would 100% say that this was a fist pump snap as his range would be huge.

This simply isn't the case any more.

Pete has adjusted his game, we have to adjust to suit.

Fwiw I don't think a call is bad at all. Our hand is strong enough to get the lot in obviously.

I think it's much more marginal than some people are making out though which is why I said I don;t mind a fold. I also don't mind a call but it's close.

It's definitely not a jump around the club call.

disagree, but whatever

Sorry but that's just plain wrong.

With which bit?

Are you saying that Pete's still a spewtard?

Have you played him recently?

dont agree with your assigned range

Matt this is spot on:

'He may have been a year or two ago but the spew's gone out of his game.'

And I think I know pete's game better than anyone.

Btw. BLESS HIM

So what range would you give him?

Can you also tell me what you're basing this range on?

"I heard that he did it with 95o a couple of years ago then stormed out of the building" won't suffice.

original spewtards are always going to spew.

either way we all agree jamming here is not good with qq right? I read eso's hh's alot and he seems to open v.wide, therefore pete should be 3beetting alot, therfore he should 3bet his premiums blahhh....

It's a tough one with limited history.

How often have we raised late position? How often has PLinton defended his blinds?

Has he shoved his big pile of purples in often?

All this needs to be considered.

It's always going to be close but as I've already said neither calling or folding is particularly bad in my opinion.

I call here but pretty much always expect the one who should be BLESSED much to have ak/aq, poss ajss

lol, loved it

please note that we dont know specifics of hands and this is not commenting on any of petes play - i happen to think he is very good

(as proven by first hand - but im not sure that raises barrel barrel with an airball can ever be considered "on the tighter side"

U what guy?

Pete isn't on the tighter side. He's tightened up!

Big diff.

his range isnt 88+ AJs+ in this spot as has been suggested

and villain dependant i dotn expect him not to have a spazz range either

All these comments look pretty standard thought out hands.

There's no evidence of spewing whatsoever.

Certainly nothing in there to ever suggest he's 3 bet shipping over a 30bb stack with 95o or similar air.

Not saying they aren't but the suggested ranges are laughable

You can add a few more hands there that we flip against if you like.

I refuse to give him a spazz range though.

He may 3 bet fold a spazz hand to balance out when he wants to 3 bet call but he's not shoving with absolute junk.

if im confident in my ability at this particular table, fold and find spots im more comfortable in... also take into consideration what he thinks of us.. are we opening alot? has he ever seen us raise / fold previous to this? Also has he done this previously to any other players?

Bare in mind though id say your crushing ALOT of his range here.. but also flipping a fair bit of the time.. + he could even have JJ / QQ.

Taking everything into consideration.. i think i fold.

not folding

Think Linton (as a decent, thinking, aggressive player) re-raises premiums to c13-14k as it's perfect size to induce a shove, and if you don't he will play well post-flop even oop.

If this is true we can call here comfortably.

The thing is, and obv Linton knows this, we can also fold comfortably and still have almost twice the chips we had but five-ten minutes ago. I'd expect him to be putting the pressure on with two big cards that he maximises the equity of by getting in pre-flop if you do have a raise-calling hand.

NH

oh come on!

seriously!

come on.

we have 10's!! i dont car eif he had aces this time, his range is definitely weight more towards pocket pairs and some random hands that jj+ aj+

i think a GOOD amount of the time his range will be

136,984,320  games     0.343 secs   399,371,195  games/sec

Board:
Dead:  

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    65.808%     65.57%    00.23%          89825822       321134.00   { TcTd }
Hand 1:    34.192%     33.96%    00.23%          46516230       321134.00   { 99-55, AQs-ATs, KQs, AQo-AJo, KQo }


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occasionally will be

Board:
Dead:  

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    68.635%     68.33%    00.30%         154444904       686428.00   { TcTd }
Hand 1:    31.365%     31.06%    00.30%          70206368       686428.00   { 99-22, AQs-A8s, KTs+, QJs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo-ATo, KQo }

will occasionally be

Board:
Dead:  

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    53.341%     53.12%    00.23%          92769016       394205.00   { TcTd }
Hand 1:    46.659%     46.43%    00.23%          81097582       394205.00   { JJ+, 99-66, ATs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }




very very rarely will be

Board:
Dead:  

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    44.292%     44.07%    00.22%          55843194       279313.00   { TcTd }
Hand 1:    55.708%     55.49%    00.22%          70308676       279313.00   { JJ+, ATs+, AJo+ }

^^^^^^^^^

spot on and includes no spazzz range

also there is mfkin antes!

and lol at huge edge in this comp which plays really shallow and we have 25bbs and have a chance for a top 10 stack in a top heavy payout structure with people who will start laddering quite soon. a huge part of our edge is doubling ehre vs range tht we obv crush.

4 pages, 4 fkn pages!

eso runs like fkn god

shame his horse doesn't.

Oi quoted to show Petra!!

Haven't read thread, but this is very obviously a fistpump call

Call but no way is Pete spazzing here. He has something. Most probs a flip. Think he 3 bet calls top of his range and 3 bet folds his bluff. Agree with cos and Matt- plinton has adjusted his game

This/These

+1 bedi

but the hands he doenst want to 3b/fold are middle pairs mostly ya?

He won't jam these for 30bbs ya

But if he doesnt want to 3bf the middle pairs and AJ by shoving he folds out all but the top of my opening range?

Nope cos people like Guy who still think he's a spazz snap his bollox off

and is never worse than 50% against his prescribed FULL range yet we take teh top of his range out we are in even better shape

But your calling as happy to take the flip at this stage? or semi villain dependant?

What if its Colin Young (hero!!)?

I mean it's CLEARLY not a fold.

People seem to arguing about how happy they are in calling. Meaning the debate is more interesting if you take 99 or 88 for instance.

Pleno's ranges are pretty spot on imo, and implies we should be very happy with the situation, as I would be. Your edge will big soooo much bigger once you've doubled, compared to now where it is minimal at best ;)

he's never got JJ so what we waiting for?
im calling 99 and 88 also

lol results are so tilting, but i knew them before i posted itt.

Anyone that thinks that Peter Linton is gunna look down at the  Jd Td as chippo after a 25bb cutoff open with sizing that suggests that the opener has a brain and is therefore opening wide then chuck it towards the dealer needs their head checked imo.

had almost identical spot vs linton recently and he did the same with A7o. Only thing is that was in a bowl comp so hes probably a bit tighter here, lol at folding TT tho

5 pages lol.

Anyone said call yet?