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It's Christmas time which means wall to wall Arrers.

PDC-Taylor at evens looks a very good bet, I have him at around 8/13.He's been superb this year and looks really determined to win his Title back.Losing it last year looks to have inspired him to get it back.His draw looks decent enough.Coral go 10/11 but are paying out anyone you bet on the outrights as a winner if they hit a 9 darter.Boyles will refund you if Lewis wins it.Outsiders-Terry Jenkins @80s.

Looks some decent priced 1st round games to look forward to.

BDO-.I'm going to go with Waites 4/1, he's consistently averaging around 100 and it seems only a matter of time before he moves across,  he should meet Winstanley in the quarters which will be a cracker.Fitton as an outsider from the top half @25/1.

Really hope Fitton wins the BDO.  Seems like an absolutely top bloke whenever I see him interviewed on TV.

Think Burnett could nick a set of Webbby tonight so backed 3-1 Webby @ 5/2

Lewis should cruise through 3-0 @ 11/8

Each way punts on Nicholson at 50/1, Chisnall at 66/1, although of course both in Taylor's quarter.  Barney surely value at 40/1 but again in Taylor's quarter.

Phillips looks tasty at 22/1 in the BDO

lewis was 11/1 2 weeks ago - seemed like incred value

I met him before at an Exhibition and he was a sound dude.

Was that not before the draw???
Fancy him @7/4 to have the most 180s of the night.

New brunette walk on girl, abs amazing!

bit chunky IMO

Jacqui Adams is incred

The lady in question may have a tiny bit of excess Terry, though I felt she gave the walk on her all as she stepped out with Roland Scholten. Her agent has obv advised her that she's doubtful to get the post Christmas gig and she needs to make a name for herself now. Faultless debut for me! Agree Miss Adams ain't too shabby either.

gg webster! Long xmas for him! Could his premier  league spot be in doubt?

Lewis 0 - 1 Heydon

gg 3-0 lewis

Throwing like an abs dog as well

Lewis 0 - 2 Heydon

Still throwing like a dog!

heydon choking like a true chump

did I say chump?

breaks Lewis

then he misses 3 at tops - unreal game

Lewis is throwing this away - heydon needs to hold and goes thru in a tie break

Gotta win by 2 clear sets?

Wow - what a game

Lewis somehow gets there - Heydon threw it away on several occasions - was still scoring but choked to death on doubles!

Sick game, Xmas was nearly cancelled

lol barney is 1000-1 not played well for over a year now!

He's started to show signs of improvement to be fair.

I will be looking to take Lewis on in this tournament, Heydons bum collapsed but someone with more experience won't give him a second chance playing like that.
Unreal amount of 180's tonight.

Crazy game.  Heydon bottled it good and proper.  Can't believe Lewis was so affected by a wasp sting on his non throwing hand.  I will be laying him next game irrespective I think.

Dennis Ovens came on stage with a Back spasm, as soon as Mardle mentioned it his price drifted like a barge.Managed to get his opponent at 7/2 with Sky and as it was in play they paid out.
After 1 leg Munch was 1.16 and Ovens retired after the first set.

Barney in a game here!

And going home.

I blind-laid Barney at 1.05, then watched 2 mins and doubled my bet at 1.06...

He got CRUSHED! James Richardson... remember the name!

He took out 140 to take 2nd set, came back from 2-0 in legs down in the 3rd set to win 3-2... so that's 3-0 in sets


 Just managed to pick up £6 at 500's in the outrights and feeling happy about it!

It looks like the end for Barney.
I really bad loser and very lucky with the support he gets.

He is improving though...he won a few games.

Terrible from Barney, I was just saying to a mate the other day I was thinking of backing him as a lay.  Even when out of form I though the 40/1 that as available was a bit big for him in this event, as I expected him to come through the first 2 rounds unscathed. 

But that was rank.  thankfully for me I never got involved. 

I have laid a fair chunk on Walsh in this game with the intention of greening out, but again what a terrible start from both players.

It did look generous as he had averaged over 100 at the GSOD and you would have thought he would have put in everything to peak for the next 2 weeks.
Honestly don't know where he goes from here as he shouldn't be in the PL.

Free rolling Walsh for £300 toastie life.

Chris Mason is having some go at Mardle on Twitter, he's worth following on there.

:-(

Pulled the trigger too early on that one.  FML.

Whats happened to your Horse pick RAman?

Surely Walsh never loses this... I'd be shocked if it's not 3-1

Been having loads of internet issues bud which make posting selections and updating it a pain in the backside.  I should hopefully have everything sorted for the new year with a house move and a new ISP.

Will still try and post over Christmas for the bigger races if I see anything that jumps out at me. 

I would agree with this, I took the line that it might be a slow start and Walsh might not come out the traps if he did then its an easy clickback to get out as his price wasn't really going to drop below the 1.11 that I laid at. Worse case scenario is a break even. 

My style of betting is laying at short prices on betfair, but I did the same as you... laid at the start then after watching 1st set backed it all onto Walsh.

I very rarely back at short prices but I've gone with this one and have a sizable liability on French; hope our instincts are right!

epic Anderson shennanigans!

tie break!

Game on!

lol Anderson you fish

sudden death

lol - wins bull then scores 45

luckbox

[  ] 2nd favourite

At 2 down, I go to have a play and he's still odds on... Sigh, no bet!

Playing the Lay to Back market.

Smith @ 2.04
Part @ 1.58
Whitlock @ 1.48

Greened out on the first game for min return of £270.  Easy work, I don't play these markets for huge volume as I am still a bit of a novice but so far so good.

Nice tip earlier.Rand was my strongest fancy of the Tournament so far.
Hopefully get him near even against Lloyd

Small loss on part, got involved with my little niece and ended up missing the start of the match. 

Hope you were Green on Part before he threw a Dart, he went off at nearly evens.

More fun and games at the arras, there's been a few words in the pipe v Newton game and it's in the lucky last!

epic match!

cant stand watching pipe

come on Newton

Throwing for the bull at 2's each.. Lols. Have you any finacial interest?

Wow, what a celebration! It looks like he cleared the crowd as well during his throw.

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

2 Hours for 7 Sets and one of the Players is one of the quickest Dart Players in the PDC.

No interest I just thought the swing was pretty epic.

Done okay in this first game by laying Walsh pre match and then backing him after he lost first set. 

In the Wade v Klassen match I have steamed in on laying Wade with the same intention as I had other night to back as soon as he starts to drift after a slow start.   

WP Wade. 

I lost on that game not as bad as it could have been but still managed to lose £130.

I am a Layer of Farmer @ 1.55.

Baced Farmer @ 2.42 for an all green book, locking up £350.

Farmer was 4/9 earlier with Ladbrokes. Tried desperately to find a single reason for that and failed to come up with one.

Some bizarre odds in this tournament so far.

Do you think 4/9 was low?

I don't know enough about darts to have that great an opinion on it as I only ever have a bet on televised tournaments. 

I would say though that the price was based on the fact that the German lad was a qualifier/German both have pretty bad records so I understand at this stage of the tourn.

Wadey looked abs incredible tonight!

He is looking solid for the final/win if he can keep that up!

I could of give him a better game than Klaasen!

He would have beaten Taylor last night! I posted before having seen his interview! If he can just stay in that positive frame of mind he has a huge chance!

I don't know about that, he averaged just short of 96, Klaasen has gone at the game and it wouldn't surprise me if we don't see him on Tv for a while.

A few reports doing the rounds that Stompe got bit by a Dog on his throwing Hand :D

<3 Co Shhhhhhhtompee.

Jenkins price collapsed but Dave Clark says his thro is ok.

had lumpy double

jenks v co under 10.5 180's 10/11
burnett most 180's 4/6 v part

I like that Bet.Burnett looks a great Bet today but the only thing thats holding the price up is the hth, 7-0 Part.

Ladbrokes were 5/6 UNDER 11.5180s in Stompe/Jenkins game- one of the most ridiculous set lines ive ever seen. Bear in mind they priced up Hamilton/VDV the same price and line- if i was match betting on most 180s in those 2 games it would be 7-2/1-5

One time dont let their laziness get unpunished please

Form an orderly one Mr Trigg

How many maximums were there, 10 or 11? I lost count.

9

Oi oi wp gents!

You must of had a sweat, 4 in first 3 legs.

When Jenkins avgs 120 its for sure an anomoly. Other way to look at it is only 5 in next 5 sets. But small sweat yes :)

Hamilton playing as good as he can

VDV throwing it away

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chissy vs taylor looking incredible

taylor looks like he has given up

I'm going to see what price I can get Chizzy for Sports Personality of the year.

sighhhhhhhhh

think Im gonna get on Wadey very hard to win

Anderson is now Fav, and I just cant see him not choking when it counts

Liked the way Wadey looked in the first  few rounds

Mervyn King is a big price att, although Lewis must really fancy it now.

Chizzy interviews are brillyunt, love his attitude he just doesn't GAF  :D

Scott Rand bet of the round today

Fancy King and Whitlock for the early jolly acca

He sure is, as he was for the last round.

Those 2 opinions are good enough for me. I'm on

Important to remember Taylor aved over 100 last night, still gonna be fave for every comp for the next 2 years at least

Please forgive my clueless question as I am new to betfair

If I wanted to make today's 4 games an accumulator is that possible?

ALso modern odds (4.2 ) for example. To do the maths do people just take 1 off the price?

9/4 with Sky as an enhanced acca

Couldn't see it better anywhere else on oddschecker

Just saw this now mate... any game that hasn't started yet you can put in an Acca with Betfair by going Multiples-->All Sports--->Darts

And yeah, 4 is 3/1, 7 is 6/1 etc, but if you hover your mouse over the price it should tell you the traditional odds

I don't know Rand too well... just based on recommendations in the thread I guess I'll only have a bet if Lloyd has a good start to get a bigger price.

The crowd is turning into basically just a joke now- load of 100iq knuckle heads who aint even watching the game. I been going darts for years and this crowd must be one of the worst, not even noticing 140+ and 167 finishes. Instead huge groups of lads singing songs across a hall to each other at 4 in the afternoon?

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick 167 check out by Jaws. Really wanted Rand to take that set as well. Can't see him coming back from here but it would be nice. dudda dudda duh duhhhhh dudda dudda duh duhhhhhhhhhh OI OI OI. lovin the arras.

Just what Barry Hearn wants.

Loads of tickets sold, 25% share on all the beer sold and do you still have to buy beer tickets when you go through the door? A brilliant idea to make even more money on beer tickets sold but not drunk.

Could do with another set I'm on over 9.5 180s :D

Pure degen.

Haven't had a single bet since the day i excluded myself from all my sports accounts for 5yrs... Been hard though. Wanted to go huge on a couple of things, obv they both would have won for sick rubs.

With how excited i have been watching darts without money on I think my ticker might not have been able to take it if i had.

Game shot and the monies!

King and Rand comfortably outscored their opponents and lost 8-2 combined. Funny old game

Got a little way out of it lol

Frustrating day.....

100% agree, will be a shame if these guys start descending on the lakeside which is worlds apart as a venue, more for the purist.

Pipe is the only upset i could see happening here. If i was a still a betting man I would have a tickle on Over 10.5 180s in Anderson match and Under 10.5 in Jenkins. LETS PLAY DARTS

Could do with Anderson winning this 4-0 to keep his price low

He has no chance against a finisher

Just gone 1-1 but to say he has no chance against anyone is just wrong- he is obviously the biggest scorer in darts and can take games away from people in a matter of minutes. Cant think of anyone id want to back at evens against him other than Taylor

nice leg if you got on!

Ok maybe not no chance, but he clearly has mental problems when his opponent is anywhere near him

You can watch him score heavy AND hit doubles, then the first trip sends him all over the place. He seems to get it together in breaks, but semi's/finals is not the place to be choking

He won prem league and 2nd in Worlds and Players this year! I agree he has a bottling tendancy, but he is good enough to get away with it against nearly everyone and probably anyone bar Taylor cos he just scores so heavy.

Should have had my house on it. The price was huge.

Been a great match. Peterson is the comeback kid. Would be great to see him come back from here but i doubt it.

Anderson is by far the best scorer in darts but as it has been mentioned his head goes down massively when the pressure is on. Still I would always put my money behind him, even against a modern day Taylor.

Sick finish. T18, D20, D20

haha! Think Anderson was reading this thread and putting it in my eye with dbl top dbl top  - so sick!

done that twice in this! what a hero. proper exhibition stuff. 3-3 one time. #dontletitend

" you can't afford a table " and " you're poor and you know you are " Crowd belong in a zoo. Still wish i was there.

Nah tbf thats the best chant of the whole tournament

Anyone got any redbull handy for this next game?

What's with all the after shave references?

Fancy Part v Painter, 10-2 h2h
over 12.5 180s Chisnall/Hamilton
Anderson over 7.5 180s v Lloyd
Kym +2.5sets v Nicholson

These sheep are all over the cricket at test level. Pretty embarrassing last year when Tendulkar is getting jeered, then various sections of the crowd who have little knowledge of the game start goading each other because the Indians in the ground do not react to their insults. Pathetic!

sigh  -recycling yesterdays jokes in the crowd! - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Also really dislike Part - hope Painter can find something

Ding Dong King John

Fancy Farmer most 180's here at 11/8 or so.

Yeah i read someone else put that up on bf, saying stats suggested it. I think id take 11/8 DNB, but dunno if could back it straight up- main hope is you get a few "dead 180s"- ie 180 when leg already lost- i know Wades not prolific but prices look right to me

Oh my. Needed 176 and hits 180 and celebrates

comedy

loved that display from wadey!

Really? It was thoroughly average. Look at the numbers, very little to write home about.

I really like Nicholson, he's great for the game and a winner - I am on at 12.0 as well

Would prefer Huybrechts to win. His missus is well worth the 300+ camera shots we get a game!

um..... exactly ....... i think

Wadey is renowned for doing enough, more importantly doing it against the guy he is up there with.

What about the premier league when Taylor threw 2 9 darters? His stats that night were amazing and he finished 2nd. The stats wont always win you matches.

For players like Wadey its all in his attitude. From his interview pre xmas he seems really in the right frame of mind, and with his side of the draw it is going to get gradually more difficult, which is a good thing.

Just think you rate Wade far too highly. He's done some awesome things in darts, but always failed on the biggest stage... I seem to remember you saying he would have beaten Taylor after the way he played in his last match and I disagree with that too. Not often, if at all, that you'll see Taylor losing to a player averaging 95.

Definitely think he's in the running for it, but I make him no more a favourite than Anderson, Lewis and Whitlock. Think it's absolutely wide open.

<3 huybrechts missus. Bet its off putting tho when you've got all the louts wolf whistling every time the camera cuts to her.

Terrible finishing from Nicholson. Mrs Huybrechts is in for it tonight. Go on my san.

Out goes the biggest gimp in darts.

WP Huybrechts.

Could be some really awesome betting opportunities from hereon in. Could do with Chisnall getting through tonight as I think he will represent a huge laying opportunity vs Huybrechts.

In the top half:

Chisnall/Huybrechts
Wade/Anderson

Bottom half:

Lewis/Jenkins
Wade/Part

Looks an awesome line-up this year.

Hard to argue which section is more difficult tbf.

Missed Whitlock from top half. Thats for sure the harder part of the draw, Whitlock/Anderson if both get through is pick of the quarters by miles and the only reason Anderson isnt fav

Jenkins and Part are low-mid 90s players (maybe a little harsh on Jenks) but Lewis @ 4/9 surely too big

Huybrechts: ""weeeeeh, I'm hitting 180s.... weeeeeeeh I got a hot mrs...life is awesome weeeeeh"

Copy and paste fail.

Don't forget that Whitlock/Anderson knocking each other out means it'd be one of them vs one of Huybrechts/Chisnall so you could argue that a Wade/Lewis semi is tougher and makes up for the slightly weaker quarter final opponents?

Either way will be a cracking few days of darts. No idea who the favourite should be right now.

Wade has a tourny avg of 92.96 with 8maxes in 3 games
Chisnall has a tourny avg of 98.78 with 11 maxes in 2 games

Arguably Chisnall would be a tougher semi

Wouldnt be on Wade with counterfeit against Lewis and think  winner of Anderson/Whitlock v Lewis is the final

Wade appears to have cruised through but interestingly all 3 of his opponents had sub 90 averages and that includes a lot of legs where they dont get to a finish, so either Wade freezes them or he has ran good. Dont think King John is good enough to take advantage tho, he is basically a decent journeyman who is gonna be consistently averaging low-mid 90s- tourny avg so far 90.98 in 3 games is probably a little under what he is capable of, but needs to avg 97 to beat Wade id guess.

Tbf to Wade, as much as I don't think he'll win it, like Guy said he's won his matches comfortably so in some respects knocking his average is useless (admittedly I have done it in this thread). Think we'll have a much better understanding of where he's at after the quarters as I'd expect a 97/98 average at least vs Part.

Chisnall known choker as well. Fair enough he beat Taylor, but he's not exactly known for being able to hole out at the crucial moments. Would fancy Wade vs him personally as Wade knows how to get the job done.

Think the fact you can look at it and say, "oh I fancy A, B and C because of these reasons" whilst someone else can say, "I don't, I fancy X, Y and Z because..." is a great thing. Has made this World Champs the best imo as normally its one name from two at most rather than from perhaps 3-5 players.

Given some great betting opportunities too!

Jenkins averaged nearly 103 last night against someone who plays very very slow, I thought he would struggle last night but seems he played his best Darts in years.
Hopefully he can keep it up for at least the next 2 games.

He played real well for 2/3 sets in round before- dont think Pipe being slow affected him at all, just doubt he is good enough to beat anyone that is gonna avg 100 over 11/13 sets

Spot on, you could make and excuse for anyone, been a very exciting tournie with a lot more good games than bad.

Had a couple of small outright bets. Hamilton @ 46.0 and Huybrechts @ 20/1.  Former just seems way too big.  Chisnall likely to suffer from letdown a bit tonight and didn't actually play that well the other night and he is a big enough scorer.  Huybrechts bet may be a bit muggy tbh.  I don't know that much about him but was massively impressed by the way he went about his business tonight and it didn't seem to fluster him at all.  He could be unexposed and 20/1 seemed fair to me but all with the proviso that backing a relative unknown after a big upset win is pretty much the nut worst thing you can do in sports betting.  Front of the market all seem to have flaws to me with possible exception of Lewis.

I'd love to see that stats on Players results the game after they have put Taylor out.

Epic scenes. What a heart! Go on George Doors! Whitlock is a true gent but gotta want MVG from here. Get there!!!

epic game there - so fast too!

gonna be a good night on the oche!

Top match, great entertainment. Well done Simon for keeping it together.

Anyone got thoughts on Chisnall? Without trying to brag I knew he had potential so i backed him vs Taylor for a small amount, but I don't know about his consistancy? Is he now a sure thing vs Hamilton?

Over 12.5 180s 5/6 lads- think will be close game and go minimum of 6 close sets which should be enough to land

Have backed Hamilton at 15/8.....2.70 now which is about right I think.

Van Gerwen backers with Laddies will be cursing their luck and at the same time thanking Laddies for the money back offer!

Whitlock so nearly blew it there.

Followed you...

Am I clutching at straws to think that it might not be so bad from a 180s point of view that Ham won first set?

Ought to be a longer game now?

(Cue Chizzy collapse)

From 180 perspective u just want everyone to hold throw every leg. I think the games gonna go 6sets+ anyway, just dont want Hamilton switching too often for 177s- which makes u wanna kick the nearest object

spread is 11.6-12.2 so not much damage done by 1 quiet set

3 treble 18's just to ensure the cat gets it! ouch!

5 already. Will come in imo.

Before you ask, yes I am intentionally posting this as a bok.

That was obv disastrous. Hard to envisage losing if it goes 1-1

Does intentional bokking count?

C'mon Chizzy Rascal

Really long way to go imo. Keep the faith.

Classic Chisnall atm though. 19% on the doubles is appalling.

I still really fancy it, just cant see how can lose if it was 1-1 in sets

11 180s in 17 legs and lose. Just lol

looked like a great bet if chiizy could have won 2 sets

Was a good bet I think, nice tip Dubai.

I wanted to put more on at one point when it became apparent one more set was all we needed, but the prices werent there so I ended up getting out for £0.

Fun ride though! It's like betting on goals in Football with South American commentary- when what you want to happen happens everyone goes crazy!

Overs in next match?

They averaged 2.75 maxes per set, so need 5 sets. Therefore took 5/6 about a theroetical 1/5 chance

Backed Anderson over 7.5 mixture of prices 4-5 thro 4-6, prefer that to backing over 12.5 as think more chance Anderson scores 8+ and finishes 12 or lower than the match having 13 or more and Anderson 7 or less- i make the latter a nigh on million to happen

Got Anderson most 180's...

On +12.5's @ 2.5 due to slow start... time to warm up please lads!


Lloyd punished his opponent in the last round for every mistake. Could be a good match here!

Lloyd back to his usual self tonight.

Need him to win some legs

His conversion rate when first dart is in T20 is scary. If he misses the first one he just lobs the other 2 without care or he would avg 110+ every game

laddies paid out before match was over

Under 12.5 180s Part/Wade 8-11
Over 132.5 highest checkout in Anderson/Whitlock 8-11
170 finish in Anderson/Whitlock 8-1 NAP
Lewis straight up 4-9

Really getting into this darts lark this year  :)

Lloyd had been on the piss all day yesterday with Painter which kind of explains the circus act that he was last night....

Another absolute cracker! Never liked Part before but gained a lot of respect for him. Still want Wadey! come on son.

Need Part to close out for 180s but if Wade wins can remortgage to back Lewis v him in semis

Amazing game of darts! Come on wadey !

Some simple maths for Anderson/Whitlock game later

Anderson has 29 maxes in 72 legs, 1 in every 2.48 legs
Whitlock has 24 maxes in 58 legs, 1 every 2.42 legs

Spread companies have the midpoint of total legs as 30

Therefore we can expect 12 maxes from both players on average. (30/2.48 and 30/2.42)

Yet the over/under is 20.5 and in some spots 19.5- it looks high compared to others but the maths suggests overs is a real good bet- I'd be a buyer at 20.4 with the spreads as if the game is real close and goes 5 legs in a lot of sets could huge upside- and even if somehow someone won 5-0 the downside will be smaller then potential upside imo

Unreal leg! Just epic

Great set this

Fking love this game

What a match that was.

One of the most incredible games ever!

Usually those games have missed doubles etc! That was just incredible scoring under intense pressure

Great game- last set was immense but still reckon it's covering the cracks over Wades problems- any idea of averages? Won't be as high as u think

Exactly, the first 5 sets were rotten.I'd be surprised if Wade was much more than 95.He throws a lot of strange Darts, switches when he doesn't need to and sticks when their's a Wall over the t20 Bed.

OMFG, only just caught up!!

It's 4-4 in sets, 3-3 in legs and the door bell goes... obv I send the wife to the door as I am glued to the tv and sat on the edge of the couch screaming my bollocks off... next some bald geezer walks into my loving room and says " hi, i'm [can't remember name] do you fancy coming over tonight for a few drinks", it turns out it is my neighbour who I have never actually bothered speaking to.. I immediately press pause, I have one last glance at the tv, then turn back to him with a confused look and say " the darts is on [long pause] and also its Newcastle v Liverpool... not tonight mate " Then my wife asks him if he would like to seat, I am close to spontaneously combusting at this point as he reels off this and that about his life as I sit their twitching like an ex junkie.

Anyways he finally leaves. Did leave me with one amusing anecdote though. When i first moved in my mate Dave was round and we were kicking a ball around in the back garden, the neighbours kids were also in their garden and an impromptu game of over the fence footy volleyball began. Anyways unbeknown to me the kids have gone in and told their parents Dave and Dave live next door, my missus was working away at the time, so since September they have been going around thinking that they  had a burly gay couple living next door! Oh behave.

Anyways incred darts. Hope Whitlock Anderson lives up to my expectations later.

LETS PLAY DARTS!!!!!!!!!!!

^^ ROFL

I love darts :) even my 2 year old loves singing to it now!

Absolute belterama of match that, gutted by the outcome I've always been a fan of Part from his lakeside days and the commentary he used to do when he switched to the PDC, not a big fan of Wadey at all.

Hated when the crowd were barracking Part just because he paused to compose himself, then booed his next few throws at doubles.

im predicting a big crowd fight at the ally pally tonight

94.92

Anderson/Whitlock could be epic tonight.
Anderson looked more into his stride last night as he seemed to be wound up after Rod, Wayne and Freddy tipped him to go out, the 4 min 13 secs ,125 ave, set was unreal.  

Milligan is my new balla hero, gonna start calling him Stringfellow!!

Haha. Didn't even notice that. Just how i roll.

Mentally went on walkabouts. I backed Part at 3/1 when Mardle announced it then laid the shit out of Part when they had the break at 4-3 as I felt it had come at EXACTLY the right moment for James Wade.

oh and I know, aftertiming and bla bla bla!

That performance won't be good enough vs Lewis or Jenkins as it stands. He can't just switch off for a few sets at a time against those guys.

I have lumped on the 180s....come on the crab

Whitlock is looking impressive here, Anderson needs this set to stay in contention if Whitlock wins its game over imo.

Who's the girl they keep panning to when Whitlock scores big or checks out?  Looks fairly young is it his daughter?  My mrs is disturbed by the fact that it might be his girlfriend.

this was his wife who he has 3 kids with, binned her in 2010.

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/01/30/1225824/982419-peta-and-simon-whitlock.jpg)

Then he started going out with a woman darts player from Melbourne called Jasmin Quinn

The woman on the tele now is his new missus called Stefanie Luck a Geman darts player who has a kid of her own. https://twitter.com/stefanieluck (https://twitter.com/stefanieluck)

The boy doesnt mess about. Everytime he moves up the rankings he moves onto another chick. Takes this down he could be in Lewis' or Huybrechts' league.

She looks young enough to be his daughter.

Well played sir.

Well that was a bit of an anti-climax, Anderson was garbage there.

you all got abs chinned on the 180's bet

But Stefanie has her tongue pierced tho ;)

she's super slosh that stephanie

Laying Lewis @ 1.48

You not like money?

I know Dubai will cane me for saying this, but the worlds arent just about the scoring. Its such a mental battle up there too.

Ive missed the Anderson game but know the result.

I just think Wadey on is day is less fallible than the others. Anderson is so prone to a good crumble.

Was hoping for a slow start and a chance to bet back, not happening though.   

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Wade is as prone to off days as anyone, he's the first to admit it. When they are both on it I'd have Anderson over Wade, when they are both on an off day its anybodies.

Wade will need to play much better if he is to win the tourney, I'd fancy Lewis to beat him comfortably.

Oh sorry,

After Wadey first game I gave him praise for a job well done, but said that in this mindset he could well go on and win

Just think in the worlds the mind game is as important as the scoring, moreso than other tournies

Guy, A lot of what you say is right, darts is a sport like not many others where if you have an off day/ your mind isn't in the right place, there isn't a team of players behind you to pick up the slack. its massively about the mental aspect. Anderson and Wade have both been known for being prone to going to bits, but Wade has overcome a lot of his prior issues imo, Anderson still lets his head drop whenever he loses a set or a couple of legs and doesn't enjoy a battle. Anderson is the better scorer but Wade is a better finisher imo and is still a very good scorer, both playing at the top of their games it is very close and i wouldn't like to call it. Wade has a weird ability of being able to up his game to match each individual opponent. Certainly don't tear your betting slip up yet!

Jenkins always displays the perfect mental game as we can see now. Barney of the last few yrs shows one of the worse, i once saw him throw 3 darts at the board at the same time before as he was so fed up. Can't find the clip on youtube though.

Lewis is sickly good, but go on the BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

Jackpot gone - this is unreal

Mental or drink? Which plays a bigger part?

SCOOP Landed.

All Green looks amazing now, after the start Lewis had.

Probs a good point even at this level players sink a fair few pints before they hit the big stage.

I wish this said Go on the Bull but close enough!

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What was i thinking doubting Raman? Another great match. Going out on a Friday night is for mugs!

I don't need much here just a 170 shot out and 4 180s please boys....

Adrian Lewis has got to be one of the most dislike able sports men / darts players out there, there's something about him that just screams total chav cock? Do any of you like him?

No, I hate him.  He has no class whatsoever.

Wow. Sick stat. Wadey and Lewis have met 11 times and Lewis has only won once!!! Go on Wadey son. Roll on New Yrs day.

Think Lewis is sickly good but he does come across as a proper dick.

Such a mugoff in that last leg :D

Agree totally.   Arbboy once described him to me after seeing him in the a Ladbrokes in Stoke having £25 tricasts as an arrogant prick which, if you know Arbboy, is a bit like the Queen calling someone posh.

:D

No worries, tbf you did call it early and your boi is still in. I did look at his draw before the tourney and thought it was decent but his previous record in the Worlds is poor so I couldn't have him.

Unless you are playing Kirk Shepherd in the final you can't average less than 94 and win, the stats prove that- whilst it ain't all about scoring it don't half help!!

From what I remember the player with better average wins the game ~80% of the time, so it's obviously the best starting point to working out who wins

For the stats fans- 3rd round 8/8 winners had best average. Quarter finals 4/4

Obviously longer the game the more likely average=win due to lowering variance

Anyone got thoughts on Hamilton tonight?

Top average of last 4, nothign to lose, everything to win?

Is it just a case of Whitlock going to be too good all round?

I like him.  He is arguably playing best of all four that remain.  On at 45/1 outright though so going to leave it alone but definitely a bet I like.

Anyone's really, it's all about the mental/drink quantities. Hamilton v Lewis is my final match up.

Hamilton is defo the value here, Whitlock losing to him from 15-8 up in Blackpool could play on his mind.

I missed the match the other night, but in what manner did Whitlock beat Anderson the other night? People seem to be talking up Hamilton, so I'm guessing Anderson was just awful?

I know Ham's been playing very well but he's had a fairly easy run so far hasnt he? Feel free to correct me, just looking for perspectives

Hamilton has the best tournament average and tends to win tight Games.

Why did no one reply informing me that Hamilton was Taylor in disguise?

I backed him to trade in the end, but how can i swing the bet around at the moment? Unstoppable right now!

Whitlock in the zone here

Absolute roller coaster and I have no monies invested, lord knows what Vera duckworth is going through on the rail!

Incredible championship!

My favourite for many a moon, just because of how open it's been.

Whitlock was amazing in defeat! I doubt many would stand there and act with such dignity!

eughhhhh

I hope that interview wasnt today!!!!

I hope Wadey brought his game cause his eyes have no belief

Could be 6-2 Lewis here

Guy likes that!

Come on Wadey!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wade is a superb bet in running at 4/9 here.

Wtf, players in the past struggling under the lights and now this!

What's happening ?

Wade 6-0 in running is value too @ 10/1+

A breeze coming across the stage, Lewis started to complain when he had darts to level it up. The crowd jumped on him, wade was not happy though knew he would win whilst Lewis was chucking his toys out. 2 nil wade, then a 10 minute break.. Now it's best of order!

Gone with the wind. Great line! Oh Wadey we love you!

Boom!

What a 3 darts that was!

Come on Wadey - see this out!

sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

If there's a break then it's anyone's! If not, you have to fancy Lewis.

Painful to watch this

Amazing

Eso runs good!

Lol most ridiculous day ever. Wade went from avg 100 to 80. Jean VDV choke

lol Lewis being modest

Amazing what goes on when two flakes collide

see the smug grin on wades face when lewis missed that double at 5-1/

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Where's the smart money tonight?

Hamilton value at 9/4?

I was just looking at this myself, I think Hamilton is a bet at 9/4.  I certainly can't have Lewis at 2/5 and will prob be a layer with the intention of trying to bet back if he makes a slow start, but giving how he has come back from adversity before I am not sure the market will overreact in the final, I guess your sort of looking for bots to get the drift going if he goes a set or 2 down. 

i think betting lewis 7-0 and 7-1 and hamilton to win isnt a bad approach,  lewis is a great front runner

I'm on over 58.5 140+ at evens, think only danger is a 7-0, 7-1, 7-2 which is reflected in price. I've  also had small bet 7-0, 7-1 Lewis although I hate him.

agree the 7-0 is the bet to go for and i know nothing about betting! Price seemed huge given Hamiltons potential to buckle

Ladbrokes have massive ricks on this market- they try not to pay out, as their odds compilers obviously keep forgetting that 180s are tracked separately on the PDC site and therefore forget to add them onto the spread. Yesterday Hamilton was 22.5 o/u- he had 20 140s and 10 180s- they settled it as a loser but after 5 phonecalls have changed it to a winner after i explained what had happened. The 58.5 tonight could be passed in as little as 8 sets, the spread is around 20 wrong so its a total max bet- the only downsides are hassle of getting paid out and Hamilton switching to 19s and throwing 137s/139s for fun

I even rang up before the game yesterday to get rules of market read out to me so it was on tape :)

Cliffs- Go all in on over 58.5 at evens

Ended up backing Hamilton @ 5/2. 

Just missed the over 58.5 before the start. Gutting

Think Hamilton is the obvious bet....he might buckle but he is still averaging more than Lewis end of day and seems focussed

so close to being #amazeballs

Real shame this game is a damp squib after such an amazing championship

Whats the score?

4-3 Lewis

Worst averages since Shephard

Weighed in- now to get paid. If anyone has any problems- pm me dont ring ladbrokes straight away, i will sort it

Easy after the event - but oi oi - £300 at evens, that was a massive rick considering they have played shit and could be 7-3 still

Still gotta get paid- bear in mind they settled previous bet as loser and had to get them to change it!

LOL @ Andy Hamiltons face when they said "£100,000"

We'll sort it Dave, well you will - in the kitty for Dublin beers if I make it - I'm just pleased I was a shrewd as you lol - took me a day longer to spot it ha ha

would have put it up earlier on here if i knew was gonna get paid out including 180s :)

settled as loser- back to having to phone up

I'll wait til you have phoned....let me know or drop me a txt

Yep, mine to - I've phoned since your text and they have not even argued after "someone bought it to our attention" - I did try not to pmsl - told me they'd settle in morning as well

Apparently 179s count- a pleasant intelligent lady informed me. I asked her how many 179s were thrown and she is getting back to me

Awesome find Dubai! Shame I couldn't get on.

Reminds me of the time Corals forgot to close an NFL market on their site and despite the game only having 30 seconds left on the clock I was still able to make a ht/ft bet at 7/1. Lovely jubbly.

Not been paid yet

Althought think ladbrokes might struggle to argue to Ibas that 180 isn't a number above 140

Why haven't you been paid? Are they being awkward about it? Seems an unbelievably clear cut case.

More so given they apologized and resettled the semi final bet to take into consideration 180s

Not been given the nickname Ladcrokes for nothing, eh?

Will happily fuck you over when you make a mistake, but when the shoe's on the other thought?

Anyway, hope you get paid.

Is she blonde ?   ;djinn; ;dingdell; rotflmfao

Sandy

Winner winner chicken dinner. Paying out later tonight

Patrick Guillbaud tomorrow night now on ladbrokes

Nice.
I always wondered if the Bookies would start pricing up 140's.I take it that it was only Laddies and they only done it from the semis onwards??

good spot dubai, missed it in here.

Worst shouter ever on the BDO.

I like his One Hun DRED call

what happened in the martin adams match, chris mason going crazy on twitter?

You've probably found out by now, but from what I understand Mason was bleating on about some match being fixed and it costing him 11k etc. Read on a darts forum that it's a real possibility it was fixed as the lad who lost is supposed to have previous for this kind of stuff.

Then as I understand it Adams was being interviewed in the players bar and was pissed and making a show of himself, which given he's now on the board of the BDO wasn't exactly the smartest thing he could have done.

Mason's a cock either way.

Robson has previous and he was rotten last night.Prins games was pulled by most bookies and 800 was matched at 5/4 on 3-0 when the original bookies price was 3/1 for 3-0.Most of the best placed were in the NE of England seemingly.Mason is a bit nuts but he's probably the best Darts commentator going.

Darts bookies now shitting themselves about Dubais upcoming spinup!!!!!

cracking docu about the break up of the BDO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Iwr3u5HzoM&feature=BFa&list=ULjhA5FM0vDwc&lf=mfu_in_order

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Iwr3u5HzoM

Cheers Acid, I just watched the whole doc on Youtube.

Cliffs Bobby?

Worth watching?

Really good, I had no idea about how the breakaway took place and what a total bunch of c**** they are. Basically darts dieing with only world champs on TV :)

hi mate,

Its a good watch as its pretty balanced and shows both sides in the split to be very right and also very wrong in equal measure from the naivety/love of the game of the guy running the BDO to the way the new breed spotted an opportunity but struggled to get it off the ground. It doesn't paint some of the players in a great light if you view them as deserting the ship but makes it understandable that they were trying to maximise their earnings

Who do you think the ***** were Acid, the BDO or the breakaway players?

The person Olly? who run the BDO and banned the players from virtually across the globe and had no choice but to form the PDC. When they went to him with a proposal they were railroaded out. Can't blame the top players, they couldnt make money/ a living from darts anymore and just wanted a fresh approach, with the BDO but again were left hanging.

The only time one of these birds will see a 180 is when they're setting the oven

Max bet tomoro- Kist to beat Hankey, averaging miles more than him in every round, will score far too heavily and Hankey been hugely inconsistent and drifting darts both ways- Hankey flattered by opponents averaging even worse than him in low 80s. 8-11 with Blue square, cant see it lasting- i was maxed to 625,similar bf but with commission

ladbrokes not priced up yet- onetime 8-11 evens please

Agreed, Kist has been a sensation at this Tournament tho I think Hankey will up his game I don't think that will be much more than a 92 average.
If Kist averages/doubles the same as he has in the previous 3 games he wins.
Also like the over 13.5 180s line in the other Semi.

How would you price the game Dave/Snowball?

As a bookie 2/5 7/4- to 100% 1/2 2/1

4/7 Kist, the only thing pushing his price up is his inexperience.If he had played at the latter stages of a Tv Tournament before then he would be 2/5 or lower.
Hankey said in his interview that if he plays like he did last night then he will get hammered and I think he will step it up a bit but imo it's all about what Kist does.

This is tremendous  :D

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlEYNlSZ44

lol. "ten gallon hat from scunthorpe" and "all you folk south o Trent"

just watched all 4  vids... fred truman legend  "henry viii used to love a game of shove ha' penny when he were n't banging mrs"

"that's a better one, that's a flopper!"

Marvellous clip that

"Having failed his degree he's now working for a turf accountant in Leeds"

The Leeds Utd cardigan in the 3rd clip!

Sid Waddell was the producer on this and Dave Lanning one of the commentators.

"a proper Yorkshire Dart board, non of those flukey trebles"  :D

O Shea has played 58 legs for 12 maxes- 1 every 4.83 legs
Harms has played 68 legs for 7 maxes- 1 every 9.71 legs

O Shea looks max bet @8-15 for most 180s

Can expect him to outscore him 2/1 on 180s. Something like 8-4 if he wins 6-2 6-3

I was just looking at that, looks safer than over 13

yeah i think to cover the overs u need 9 close sets, or 10 sets. Prefer O Shea straight up most 180s for sure

Really enjoyed this, thanks for posting it

Great stuff

That was pure comedy gold. A brilliant loss of head by Hankey at the end, that underarm dart when he had given up was brill.

Nice call.

lol @ Hankey- shocking standard all round tho

Been close from what Iv heard

who won

Hankey what a wanker.

kist 6-5

Hankey was 5-4 up when i switched it on the bottled it.

Was 5-3 up :D

I had a feeling Hankey would upset Kists rythme but luckily enough he managed to get over the line.Not 1 max from Kist in 7 sets  after 4 in 3 sets.

Hankeys joining the PDC seemingly

Be lucky to be a journeyman on PDC, needs to eradicate the drifting dart, improve his composure and add 10 points to his average.

This.  Throws too many darts away to ever be considered seriously imo.

It's what he needs.He will knuckle down and put more practise in now that their's more than 2/3 Tournaments a year and good Money to play for.

Nice one Dubai.

Whats 180 count pls in this so far?

208 I make it

I think Kist will play a lot better tonight as O'Shea won't adopt the slowing down tactics like Hankey done yesterday which clearly affected his game.
His tournament average is more than 4 points better than O'shea and his doubling is also more consistent.

Kist legs played 71, 180s 21=1 180 per 3.38 legs
O'Shea legs played 58, 180's 12=1 180 per 4.83 legs


O'Shea 140s =1 every 1.26  legs
Kist 140s = 1 every 1.2 legs

Tournament average

Kist=95.92
O'Shea=91.64

Toatal legs spread is around the 45 mark so going by the above averages it would end 13-9 Kist.Total 180s is 8/11 over 17.5
Kist to win is 10/11 and most 180s evens

This was the report on the official BDO site after Ana beat Gulliver.

Nine times world champion Trina Gulliver crashed out of the championship, whitewashed 2-0 by Russian Anastasia Dobromyslova in just 31 minutes.
In a repeat of the 2008 world final, the Somerset third seed failed for the first time to reach the final as the unseeded East European played mind games to topple the Golden Girl.
Arrogance and self confidence exuded from the Russian but Gulliver let her darts do the talking, as took the opening leg against the throw after Dobromyslova missed 10 doubles.
A maximum steered the Golden Girl to the next, the snarling black-shirted Russian taking the third on double 12 and in the fourth she set the pace, levelling the match on double 12 and turning to salute the crowd, the Somerset player bemused by her opponent's behaviour.
Dobromyslova, clearly slowing the game and playing the crowd, missed double 18 for a set-winning double 18 and a further three for the same double but it was catching - Gulliver missing bull for 81 to steal the set. The Russian made no mistake on her return to the oche, nailing double 18.
The unseeded player – who beat Gulliver in the 2008 world championship seemed to grow in confidence with her mind games over the tense nine times world champ, who fluffed darts for doubles in the opening leg of the second as the Russian exited on 56.
Gulliver was first to the double in the next leg but missed double five for 95, Dobromyslova missing bull for 121. The Golden Girl missed a further two chances as the underdog clinched her favourite double 12 to move within a leg of victory.
Again in the third, the player from Cheddar requiring 105 saw her form desert her as she hit 92, opening the door for Dobromyslova to move into her second final with a match-winning 50.
Both players failed to hit the 24 per dart average, illustrating the tension which had affected both competitors

they don't like the ex PDC girl much....

tense