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If 2 people share a single IP address. ie. two house mates using a router for their broadband, both enter the same table using deifferent accounts online is it considered ghosting? something in other online games that is an offence.

I'm guessing it must be surely.. but if it is then how would you get around that if there genuinely were 2 people living in the same house that wanted to play on the same table?

anyone know about this sort of stuff?

it has happened in my house a few times in tourneys and one of us gets kicked off the table.

I have the same problem at my flat. I think it differs with each software. The three of us use Virgin poker and can all play on the same table. With the Crypto network we each have to use a different site (WillHill, Betfair and Littlewoods)  if we want to sit in the same room.

Its right that two or more players can't sit in the same room, playing the same table online. Looking at each others cards telling each other not to raise because "I have aces" or "I Passed a king" etc

Imagine if it were a live game and two players said, "We are going to look at each others cards and whisper to each other but we won't cheat, honest"

What you need to do is get a router and pay your isp extra for multiple IPs.

You could also direct one person through a proxy, but I'm not sure how good an idea that would be security wise.

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Sure it is.. that's why ghosting would be banned, but what I'm saying is it doesn't help people living in a shared house who like to play against each other in the same game(not sitting next to each other so they can see cards). Surely you have friends on here that you talk to whilst playing in the same game.. then imagine if you lived in the same house. If there were no way round it it would mean that you couldn't play the same game anymore.. ya dig?

So yes, 2 people sitting at home cheating 8 other players out of their money is wrong.. but to stop 2 friends on 1 IP address who want to play against each other would also be a poor show.

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There is no way to distinguish between the two. How do we know you're not cheating?

Then again.... if you wanted to cheat, not being able to play on the same IP address isn't exactly going to stop you either.... So I guess it should be allowed.

i find buying your own house solves all these issues.

There is no way of moderating it so cant see it ever being allowed.

But the other problem I see with online play is people can phone/text each other with tactical information.>:(

My point is, if you are wanting to cheat, what is to stop you using multiple IP addresses. Eg, one person uses dial up and the other uses the broadband. Or you get ADSL and a cable internet connection. Get a new phoneline from BT and have two connections.... Request multiple IPs from your ISP. have one PC go through a proxy server... There are hundreds of combinations that do not involve the use of the same IP.

If you want to get inside someone's house there are plenty of ways to do it. Find an open window, jemmy a closed one, break one, kick a door in etc.

Bet you've still got a lock on your front door though?

The lock on my door is to keep me in. I live in prison.

while this is true, sitting in the same room as someone offers no real benefits. 2 people in seperate rooms playing in the same online game can quite easily be on the phone to each other, or as is more rife, chatting about their cards for free over an instant message service such as msn. If anything else being on the same ip makes it pragmatically easier for the poker site to check for any collusion.

I'm not saying that it can't be done or that it doesn't happen

People get shot in this country but that doesn't mean they should sell guns in Tesco's

I would prefer it if they did... not the toy kind either.

Why?

So I could shoot the pedantic arguers on here  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Wouldnt that be Suicide Mikky ??  :D

Im not a pedant Im a comic genius, second only to RED-DOG himself...

"A pedant is merely someone who is right when you are wrong."

Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle, He says your Black.

how interesting.

Making notes

Not only is this sort of thing incredibly easy to do, its rife. Not a worry at the lower limits tho.

Who needs phones or texts when you've got MSN!!!

Who needs MSN when you have IRC.

who needs irc when you have icq

ICQ is just another MSN.... sorry, MSN is just another ICQ :)

IRC is basically a chat room facility, and so much more.

mikky i was an irc admin for nearly 3 years i do know the difference  but icq is much more secure and harder to track than irc

Skype is great, forget Messenger.

You cant really do multiple chatrooms with ICQ like you can with IRC. Plus it depends on the network with regards to trackability. At the server level, they are both as transparent as each other. Of course, it requires you to be the server which as an end user is impossible.

i would have thought that 1 chatroom on a empty chat server is what cheats would want so that they are not intrupted easy to do i=on icq not so easy on irc unless your the host and only admin on the server

icq is the daddy of all messengers but popularity of msn means its now looking a little dated infact about 6 years ago or so aol bouth out mirabilis so they could use icq and the benchmark of there messenger

skype is crap for online to online stuff is only of a benifit if you want to call someone offline

well instant message services aside, you could write your own software dedicated for the purpose of sharing cards and calculating the resulting odds changes within a week or so. And i'm sure people have.

If you really wanted to cheat you could just set up your own chat server and encrpyt the connection.

You could then run that on a different PC with a different IP and be pretty sure that the poker rooms had no chance of detecting it - apart from if your plays were obvious.

IRC is the daddy for this type of work, it is open source and there are many off the shelf server packages available tailored to your needs. Many trojan virus writers these days use IRC for their bot farms. The virus bot will "call home" to the IRC server its owner has programmed into it, and all the viruses will sit in the irc room waiting for commands to be typed in, such as "attack IP address x.y.z.a" and then all the machines that the viruses live on will silently start attacking the destination, meaning that poor sap will now loose his internet connection.

All of this is untraceable unless you know the address of the writers server. Which of course is not a public server, its a server running on his hosted machine with a random domain name somewhere out in iraq.

The beauty of things like IRC is that its a standard protocol, easy to program for, yet so difficult to track down. Propietory software like MSN etc is a joke. Why let microsoft hold the copyright to your coversations!?

Why let the Government stop us smoking in a pub?