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Ministers  going public saying ' might be a good idea to keep your car topped up full and put some extra petrol in cans and store in your garage '  fkin retarded comments like this tilt me so much

even Cameron said keep your car full . when are we gonna get people with a brain running the country !

In a commons commitee debate when questioned by another MP regards the vat on hot food, Osbournes reply was that he should buy it when it's still cold!!

Ridic bad imo

Geo

cue panic buying and the innevitable self fulfilling prophecy of running out.  we wouldn't run out if morons didnt panic buy. and nobhead MP's didnt tell people it was a good idea to keep topped up.

good excuse to work from home i suppose.

I topped up.   ;whistle;

Whole thing is a consipracy to make us spend more at the pumps, and justify price rise. No intention of striking imo

anarchist!

Latest: The government says drivers should top up tanks with fuel, but "not panic".


I'm glad we have then to tell us what to do, I was just going to panic, but not top up.

Hope this doesn't last. I commute everyday and the petrol pumps were manic. Guy behind the counter said thay have sold 30,000 litres already which has never been heard of. He didn't say how much they normally sell. Queues were horrendous.

 the general populous are just plain stupid .
 the politicians know this so engineer a fuel shortage crisis.
 panic buying begins !
 our country is Bankrupt although no one will admit to it .
 great timing for collecting much needed extra revenue to 'prop up the end of year figures '
 
advising the public to fill cans for garage storage beggars belief !  however desperate times call for desperate measures, even taxing the poor old pasty .

sigh im so fkin tilted by this shower of shites running the country

Suggesting that people keep their tanks full of petrol is good advice if tanker drivers are going to strike and not deliver petrol. I don't know what better advice the government could offer? Wait, I know. Tanker drivers are going to stop delivering petrol so all drivers should go to Greggs and buy a sausage roll. Much better advice.

it's terrible advise !
both irresponsible and just plain stupid . it can only create panic buying and dimwits storing petrol in their homes.
there is no shortage, there are drivers delivering fuel. no strike date has been announced and even if there is a strike it wont last for more than a few hours .
ridic that people believe all this shite and dont see the real reasons behind it all IMO . : )

We should all go on strike for a week in protest at fuel prices
The whole country nobody at all go in for a week
Sit in the garden and stare at the sky
After stocking up on pies n pasties of course

Sorry Mantis, but this is so far wrong it's off the scale of wrongness.

There isn't a strike, so there is was no shortage of fuel or queues to buy some until the government started waffling on about creating fire risks in your garage and wasting time topping up.

mmmm hot sausage roll  ;kev;

even better, a hot steak bake  ;sexybanana;

I'm taking the dog round the lake in a bit then it's a crusty bacon roll or maybe 2 for me
N top up the fuel tank
Still got 4 jerrycans full of diesel since the last strike ( waste of money ) when u run out stay at home

If health and safety concerns are an issue for the tanker drivers what's changed in the last few years to make them want to strike?

I've topped up too in case I need to move a church pew in the next few days!

Had 2 laugh this morning 2nd job I'n taxi  girl about 20 ( blonde) gets I'n and says where she is going 5 miles 8.50 fare . I said what's up with car she says she wants to save her petrol for weekend . Hope every 20 year old blonde thinks the same .

did not know we had to do this i off back down petrol station with some empty milk bottles!

Radio 5 reports Halfords saying jerry can sales up 400%

#worldsgonemad

Totally mad .we take patients 2 Liverpool royal 3 days a week for kidney treatment and clarterbridge for lukema . As ambulances dont want 2 be tied up with these jobs . So if a strike did happen would we as taxi drivers be allowed diesel . Would be nice 2 know . I can't see a strike happening but you never know

When i started the job 2 years ago Diesel was 116.9p a litre :(

My 6th year is the flexibility and no boss telling you what 2 do . That keeps me doing it lucky enough 2 have decent jobs every week of my phone mostly Manchester and Liverpool jobs they pay me decent money and is better then picking up piss heads up lol . And of course you can sneak off 2 casino for a cash game lol

omg ...lol

Yo, they said maybe keep your tanks topped up just in case. They didn't say fight your neighbour tooth and nail to get petrol into your car before the world ends. Just because stupid people panic doesn't turn good advice into bad advice, it just proves stupid people panic. I prefer government to just say how it is rather than dilute things so stupid people don't lose their minds. What actually is so far wrong it's off the scale of wrongness is when Labour found out George Osbourne had never been to Greggs Ed Milliband and Ed Balls together with all the other labour piggies snap went to Greggs to quaff pasties for brekkie so they can prove they're down with the common folk. Nah, I like my leaders jogging round the park and eating bran in the morning thanks. Agree steak bake is nice thou.

Sorry Mantis but your team are massive duffers.  Advising ppl to top up their tanks (creating queues) and stockpile petrol in their homes (dangerous and poss illegal) is idiotic advice. 

Why do the stupids need to top up their tanks at all??

7-day noticements before any strike action

[  ] There a fuel shortage
[X]Government is year-end broke and need extra taxes

Considering purposely running out of petrol in a 'free recovery area' on the M62 in protest :D

xx

Why did the Government have to say anything on the subject?

Was the threat of strike action not reported on about 2 weeks or so ago?

The thing that annoys me about this is that I need to top up at the weekend because I'm nearly empty.

I'll just put my usual £60 in which does me for a couple of weeks. No panic here you see.

The problem is that now it's sunny my grass has got a lot longer and needs a cut. This means I need to fill my little green plastic container thing up.

People are going to think I'm a panic buyer because I'm filling up a green container!! Bastards!!! I'm not in a panic!! I'm not joining the fucking idiots who fill containers up because they think it's all going to run out!! I just need some petrol for my mower!!

/rant.

thin

LOL,  Wanted to cut my grass today, realised I only have a gobful of petrol and none in the container.

NO WAY am I going to the petrol station.  I drove past and the idiots are there queuing up...all aged over 50, worrying that they aint gonna be able to do the weekly shop ffs!

I give up, I really do.

Government propaganda at it's best.

Very thin.

£60 last me 2 days :(

Fking joke. Watched Newsnight last night and inevitable the idiots would be out panic buying today.

£60 fine and 3pts on licence for anyone in a petrol queue with more than half a tank. Yep.

ride mower to garage so people don't think that?

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fuck ...just remembered Ive got 2 old coke bottles in the van i back down to q up    

I really do feel like just nameing and shameing turn up at the petrol station and hunt down the sterotypical panic buyers (the same ones that you see buying 3 loaves of bread whenever there is a small chance the supermarket may be short!!!)#

and ask them politly i they mind me having a look at their petrol gauge. and anyone were it is more than half full will get a nice big a4 picture of themseleves waiting for them at the pump with MORON across their foreheads :)

How do news reporters know the difference between panic buyers and those who need to fill their cars because they have no petrol?

No queues in Darlington btw. We don't believe the Tory scaremongers up here.

The truth is, probably virtually none of the queuers are "panic buyers".

Just anyone who is going to need petrol over the next two or three days is buying it today, because of that dickhead Cameron has told them to.

Both Sainsburys and Asda are closed here for fuel.

Only one way to solve the gas crisis imo

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos

hahaha nut episode.

Just Cos a nob says u should top up

Why do so many morons listen to him

Everywhere has no petrol now

Sighs

I bought an electric lawnmower last summer, felt really smug cutting the grass earlier

Whoops. I was down to a quarter of a tank, so I filled up last night.

Presumably, according to this thread, & as I'm over 50, I've suddenly become an idiot & a "moron". But I plead not guilty to the weekly shop. 

Your profile needs updating then

It still says you are 44.

Bugger.

If we run out i can't work.

However i still get paid so, buy more, buy quickly and buy from Scotland.

Sandy

Just been to morrisons for grocery shopping it's madness there u would think they were / are giving away 50£ notes in the garage

All 4 of my locals gg'd.

Abs roffle! So pathetic

Sick of hearing it now.

Two closed here, the one that's open has a queue about a mile long. PAAAAAAANNNNNIIIIIICCCCCCCCC!

ffs. never even considered getting any petrol. got about quarter of a tank and at 13 to the gallon it aint gonna last. joke

Don't get in a queue to buy any, you'll get called a panic buyer!

He'll be OK. He's under 50.

Both our cars in red and passed 3 in Bradford on my way home that had big queues. So we both went to morrisons in Bramley just now and there was a pretty long queue but got some fuel ok. Did get some abuse from some blokes in a passing car though for being in the queue.

Would you say that you panicked passing 3 prior to buying some fuel?

So can't be arsed to queue even for traffic lights on my way home from work, never mind cross the road and queue for diesel

Wish I still had a diesel. Anyone know the price of vegetable oil?

Used about £2 .68 on way home so I am off to top up first thing as per the governments advice.

The police actually had to put 2 coppers on a 12 hour shift at the morrissons round here to corden off certain lanes to help with the queues. Looked like a 1hour wait at least.  There should be someone at the front of the line that checks your fuel guage and if more than 1/2 full you should be told to get the fook outta there and maybe have a bullet put in the back of your head on the way out. The annoying thing was that the traffic went all the way round the car park and then half way down the dual carriageway, so delayed me by 10 minutes even though I wasnt involved!

What about someone with half a tank of petrol who is making a long journey in the morning?

Are they over 50?

Question for Tikay

Do trains get effected by the petrol crisis? I understand the modern ones use petrol, but do they have their own reserves of it?

Morning Barry.

I doubt  "trains" (or, "locomotives"), modern or otherwise, ever used petrol, it is not a suitable medium for railway propulsion.

Diesel was used for many decades, after steam & pre electrification. There are still plenty of diesel powered locomotives & trains in operation.

However, none of them will be affected by the potential strike by fuel tanker drivers. The TOC's have their own substantial fuel reserves, & these are usually fed by pipeline, direct from refineries, not road transport.

The electrified sevices will also be unaffected.

Here's a photo of a diesel powered & iconic Class 56.

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I'm just scared of delaying MahoganyVic for 10 minutes.

Not as handsome as the Deltics

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Sigh I have an empty tank... When will this have ended so I can fill up?

Could not agree more, David, very little excites as much as a Deltic. If you ever get chance to use, or change at, Derby Station, there is always a Deltic parked at one end of the Station.

As a GWR man, I was always a little jealous of those wonderful Deltics, but the "Westerns" & "Warships" were pretty cool, Dad used to drive both when they were first introduced, & with H & S being less sensitive in those days, I spent many a journey from Paddington to Bristol in the cabs of these.


Anyway, enough of these wonderful pleasantries, we have hijacked the ANGRY THREAD, so we'd better move on.

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Another bloody panic buyer.......

I finish work at lunchtime on a Friday and alway fill up on the way home.
Today I'm going to look like one of the panic buying morons.
Will have to stand shaking my head dispondantly while I fill up.

There are 4 petrols stations in area which I live. 1 of them is a BP independantly run which is always 2p per litre more expensive than the other 3.
The other 3 had queues many cars deep,the expensive 1 had no cars at all.
This made my day as I needed a fill up for work and paying a premium of a pound or so was well worth not queing.

Not angry, by my standards....but hopefully I am allowed a shake of the head at

"Woman suffers 40% burns when petrol ignited while she was transferring it to containers in her kitchen in York"

In her kitchen?

Just go post midnight.

Sounds like 1 for the Darwin awards Tighty.

What u driving ! A road roller ?

How do you know they are morons and not just people who finish work at lunchtime on a Friday and alway fill up on the way home?.

They are over 50, stupid!

Exactly. Case proven.

Stupid 7 seater Mercedes ml 430. As fast as the rev counter goes up the fuel gave comes down. Bought I in a moment of madness because I flat refused to get a people carrier.

When I first started driving the price was obv still in gallons. Never could understand my mates driving to the other side of town to save a penny a gallon when more often than not they were putting less than a couple of quid in.

uber comfortable though, they're like driving in an armchair

Most of the people I knew would do the same to save a penny a gallon but not bat an eyelid when they dropped a ton on the roulette. It's madness I tell ya.

Still zero queues at the two petrol stations I passed on my way to the Darlington Station this morning.

A good point, well made.
I will look out for other people trying to look like this is their regular fill up time.
I will only assume the people with jerry cans are the morons.

How do you know they don't just need some fuel for their lawnmower?

Or even wasting it.


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It's always a picture of Tom in these things

He gets around

Yes I saw the porn one with him in :)

Unbelievable seens that meant I couldnt even get into Morrisons car park to get my all important tuna mayo sarnie for lunch.

Still no panic here as I wait it out to see a pump I wont have to queue for....

95 miles left and counting ........

Careful, I just heard that tuna mayo sarnie drivers are about to go on strike.

The unions must be laughing their conkers off! Having the govt do their dirty work for them whilst sitting their looking like heroes as they now aren't striking at Easter!

Only Cameron could Teflon this one and only milliband could fail to capitalise on it, by choosing to eat pasties in greggs!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17558294

Probably loads of overtime coping with the extra deliveries too :)

Lets just employ everyone on NMW.

Don't think ballot was about just pay, more about H & S and other stuff AFAIK

Pretty sure there will be quite a few skilled tanker drivers on jobseekers allowance that would jump at a £40k a year job.

this

it's about turnaround times meaning they can't do the job safely

Correct - the proposed strike was not about wages.

Extraordinary how many wrong ends there are to grasp a stick.

don't look like waste to me!.....all down the t shirt ,none on the floor.

Lee - seconds after the photo was taken, he set light to himself. He dropped the container of petrol pretty damn quick then!

He was OK though, he does it regularly, apparently, he's Greek.


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As in an earlier post, why? ???

No idea. Presumably the traditional employee v employer battle for efficiency, or otherwise.

Yes, I've scoured t'internet and come up with nothing. Probably is more to do with money- more pay=put up with conditions

hope this all settles down in next few days i a off blackpool this weekend

Need a tank a day next week, should be fine though setting off at 5 am.

Just been to petty station. Had half a tank in so I thought I'll go panic buy and top up for tonight's shift.

Some coffin dodger comes in to pay and starts talking to a guy in queue and says " my tank holds £100 worth and I've only had to put £23 quid in to top it up"

These people make me fucking sick!

wtf is he driving my van holds £100 car about £60

Why?

Is it because they are over-reacting?  ;)

He was driving a newish Astra

Yea lots of over reaction. People keeping their motor topped up so they can nip the kids 1/2 a mile to and from school. Bellends!!

dont mince you words girgy tell it how it is

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He still put it down fairly safely though (considering he's on fire), and didn't spill it all.

I'm wasted here Dan.

Tbf, if everyone panic bought Timber you might share his view! It has been lol worthy!

very true ...

It wins "Wasted Quip of the Week" Tom.

Absolutely superb.

Tight turnaround times never bothered them in the past when they had job and finish and regularly skipped home early eg 11 hour shift finished in 8 hours.

Its all about money believe me.

+1

Crikey, what's been going on here then. I'm just glad I am not a pasty eating OAP that drives a lot and sells their season ticket at the Albert Hall to ticket tout's when they don't fancy the show. You couldn't run much worse than that this week.

Govt have released a statement saying we can all stop panic buying now as its April!

oops apparently the panic buyers are Mantis's tory party friends

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/31/petrol-crisis-thatcher-moment-tories

People should remember the government were simply disclosing UNITE’s threat to strike, they weren't the ones threatening it.

This week we have witnessed the abject chaos caused by the mere possibility of a strike, so imagine what would happen if one actually happened. It was chaos because at this moment the country is on its knees financially and everybody is working off very fine margins. So if people can't get to work they can't pay the bills and its game over for the family. Yet it is in these desperate times, when the country is trying to pick itself back up, that UNITE decide to threaten strike action and bring catastrophic inconvenience on regular working folk. It's a time of great leverage for them you see. UNITE have already threatened to take strike action during our Olympics this year. So with the eyes of the world on London and a good chance to lift Britain out of the doldrums this selfish union want to fuck it up so their members get more of the pie. When the reality is most of us are working harder for less pie as standard. It is a time for us all to dig in and try to recover from this monumental financial fuck up under the last Labour government. So I find it pretty damn inconvenient that UNITE choose this time to threaten to stop me from going to work.

British tanker drivers have some of the best H&S standards and working conditions in the world. There would be a mile long queue of Polish drivers happy to take these jobs. So I suggest these guys just get the fcking petrol to the pumps and crack on. As for the government, sigh, well I prefer full disclosure than the filtered down version for public consumption. The government's plan was simply to lessen the leverage but they forgot that people generally can't think for themselves these days. I mean it's why folk end up in the middle of a lake following the sat nav. Anyway whatever, blaming the government for the crisis is a bit simplistic imo.

fyp

In what way does it help the government?

Why would they create it?

To swing public opinion against Unite and Labour?

If they wanted to do that why wouldn't they just wait until a strike was called?

This would result in panic buying - and you'd get this result without any of the government looking like they'd messed up.

Because they get two bites of the cherry - if this memo isn't leaked they get the fallout from this episode plus the actual strike if it takes place

That would be far too naive for any politician to go for.

You can get the PR for a strike being threatened without the fallout if it's handled correctly - this has just been a cock up.

Politicians aren't naive - but they can be stupid.

You must agree Jon that the current bunch are exceptionally stupid (Labour included). Probably lack of "real life" experiences nowadays

I think the problem started in the 90's - the balance between the people who became politicians after having proper jobs and the 'career' politicians started to tip too far towards the latter.

Did a quick google for some background - nominally a lot of them have second careers but they tend to be consulting non-jobs which are only there because of their political work.

Some kind of criteria for MP's would be good but it'd be hard to avoid their 'proper' job just being an MP's assistant, or researcher or a Party administrator etc - basically an extension of what already happens. Even if there was a demand for it there wouldn't be an easy way to guarantee MP's had 'real life' experience.

I've always thought that the minimum age for being an MP should be 40 - politics should be something you do after you've done other stuff.

As it is now, the parties are full of people who have always wanted to be in politics and have known nothing else. When I was at university (which is nearly 20 years ago now - eeeek), the people who got involved in student politics were, almost universally, bellends at best and sociopaths at worst.

Because they've known nothing else they've spent their whole lives in a bubble cut off from the real world - witness the absolute car crash this week which was Cameron and Miliband pretending they ate pasties. They genuinely thought that we would believe them - complete delusion.

Never really thought about this before, but I think you guys are spot on.

I disagree - I mean I agree all politicians are idiots but I would rather that a 20 y/o stood up in parliament  and put forward the views of younger people rather than a 50 y/o who is miss remembering what it was like to be young.

Admittedly the only 20 y/o's that would want to be in parliament would be those who are in the Burlington club and therefore have no idea what it is like to be a 20y/o but I would not like a ban in principle.

What makes you think being a 20 y/o qualifies anyone to know what's good for 20 year olds?

There might be some who do, but the mere fact of them being the right age group doesn't mean anything.

Politicians don't have to be what they're sorting out and they don't have to have experienced the problems they're trying to fix - all they need is empathy.

It would be a bad idea to let a 5 year old decide what they want to have for dinner.

I am sure it would be possible to replace some mp's with 5 y/o's and improve parliament

We have a PM who was groomed to be PM

[ ] democracy

Politics is a joke. Jobs for the boys. They occasionally let an outlier into the club so as not to give the game away

It may not be a true democracy but being groomed as a PM isn't the reason.

All this talk of 5 year olds in parliament and grooming got me thinking of Peter Mandelson for some reason

<3 Mantis

Join the club.

and I thought you were str8 mate
:)

This issue gets better and better.

UNITE have their members all primed and ready to go on strike over safety issues. The country over reacts to the situation and creates a shortage of fuel.

The government then relaxes the Drivers' Hours rules so that those, oh so concerned about safety, drivers can now drive for 11 hrs a day, within a 15 hour shift with 9 hours between shifts and they can do that evry day for a week.**

Still, all that overtime this week will help to offset the lost wages when they do go on strike



** Normal rules allow 9hrs driving time per day, which may be extended to no more than 10 twice a week. They also require 11 hrs break between shifts which can be reduced to 9 no more than three times per week. There are other relaxations too relating to maxiimum driving hours per week/fortnight.

The irony is incredible. Rather like the irony in this thread. ;)

Amazing scenes!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/article4228514.ece