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We begin with the scene in the Wolves boardroom as they bring in £25m for Stephen Fletcher and Matt Jarvis

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This thread for news, actual or rumoured, bargains, wtf's and the rest

bargains from spain? could be plenty on their way to the Premier League

"What's that Sir Alex? No, I don't want to buy Dimitar Berbatov, please stop calling me"

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As a spurs fan, I will contribute to this thread sixty times between 23:57 and 00:03. Until then, not much to say.

In: One striker/midfielder/vdv replacement (possibly Will.i.am); obviously the standard obligatory Levy master-signing no one expected.

Out: Bentley (ah go on, you know you want him); numerous fringe players on loan; modric.

Can't wait til quarter to midnight...

things to look out for :

'arry turning up outside pompeys/saints/ spurs training ground no windows in an old banger looking for someone to speak to

that swanson bloke repeating himself for 6 hours and realising at the end of his 5 minutes each time he has said nothing.

jim white combusting on air

re the jarvis and fletcher deals

both proven premiership players (jarvis also and england cap) fletcher best chance conversion rate in last two season of anyone in a poor side.

at least 35% of each deal has gone in sell on clauses to former clubs as well

The only one thing you can possibly say about Jarvis is that Liverpool spent twice that on Downing.

£25m for those two is incredible, whichever way you look at it.

Moxey is the Championship Levy. No doubt.

Is it midnight or 11pm? Love that it's going to be a Friday night.

Prob depends on the paper levels in the fax machine

Think Fletcher might turn out to be a very good signing.  Jarvis seems pretty incredible price though.

Adam Johnson to Sunderland apparently a done deal

Now I think that is a good deal for Sunderland.

A bit in and out for City, form wise, but back in the North East should be very good

He wasn't that good in the North East in the first place....

Boro fan alert. Really? I thought (on limited viewing) he was the next big thing when City bought him.....

Miller from Forest to Boro' on season long loan. Any thoughts redarmi? Mine are Yippee!

At the time he was the best player we had but he doesn't have the end product for me.  I much preferred Downing who wasn't as quick or flashy but whose delivery into the box was, at its best, unplayable.

Ishmael Miller?  Mowbray has obviously had him before and signed him on that basis.  He has been injured since then and it seems he might not have recovered from what I have heard in which case it isn't great.  We desperately need a proper goalscorer though.

Yeah, Im sure he's good but he was injury prone with us and not sure you'll get much out of him?

Hope Liverpool sign that Downing...

I'd say Johnson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Downing.

Pretty devd he's gone to the Mackems, would walk in our team, why didn't we sign him :(

Miller was really good when on loan with QPR.

Surprised we didn't sign him at the time.

No idea of his fitness though.

over the moon with johnson to be honest, fletcher im a bit sketchy just because of the price tag. we've bought him for the same price as Ba, Cisse and Ben Arfa combined. We still need another striker desperatly

Bareing in mind that it's fully acknowledged that when a team is relegated all of there players are instantly worth less than if they'd stayed up does that mean Fletcher's true value is £18-20 million, just lol.

Players at British clubs (if under a contract of some length) are overvalued because of the impending new TV deal, and higher parachute payments, so you have to pay over the odds to prise them away as the clubs aren't forced sellers

Spanish club players, in particular and minus the big two, are relative bargains because of financial troubles

lots and lots of Premier League scouts at the Malaga CL game midweek, for example

Someone like Isco the winger will be in the Premiership soon enough



Meanwhile Victor Moses signs for Chelsea....

Can't get my breath about Moses. He can't be expecting a game, apart from in the Capital One Cup.

Was hoping it was gonna be kenny miller. He is abs terrible at poker but loves the game so was hoping for added value in DTD

Adam Johnson is pretty overrated. Got a fair amount of talent but not got the brain to use it. Not often he picks the best option available to him.

Think Fletcher is decent, maybe slightly overpriced but you're paying for goals. Probably a lazy signing as their must be somebody out there that can get the goals for less but it's not horrible.

Jarvis is overpriced. Amazed at the difference in fees between him and Kightly. I'd rather try and get an untested Championship winger than pay the big fee for him. Plenty have made the step up and not struggled. Pilkington, Dyer, Sinclair, Jarvis, Kightly. Get them before they cost a shed load imo.

adam johnson is the ultimate highlights player

looks good in snippets, despite mancini giving him plenty of chances to convert to his style (i.e. actually chase back once in a while) he didn't really improve in that area either.

If you are going to be a player like him who i would deem a luxury player in the modern game you need to be bloody good. Big difference is hazard and messi to name but two work very hard as well something johnson doesn't possess.

even if you think flecther isnt a good striker its hard to argue given the chances and games played he isnt a proven premiership scorer

and i will raise you mr connor wickham at 10.5 million

His record reads:

                      Apps      Goals

HIbs 04-09        156       43     ermm, thats terrible

Burnley 09-10     35        8       see above

Wolves 10-12      61       22      sure justifys the price tag ?

Not being biased because he's signed for the wronguns, just think it's ridic what clubs pay for Eng players due to the new laws.

How is he a proven Premiership class striker ?

Solely being facetious but Darren Bent must push him close in terms of strike rate in a relegated team?

I think Fletcher is a skillful player and have always liked him but his goals record is around 1 in 4, even in Scottish football it's around 1 in 4. So £14m is steep for a player who wont be getting you 20 goals a season. Compare that to say Papiss Cisse who Newcastle signed for £8m. His goal record is around 1 in 2 which is more like it for a top striker and last season he blasted 13 goals from 14 games. Demba Ba was free and he also has a 1 in 2 record. So yeah by comparison paying twice as much for a striker that scores half as many is expensive. Then again Martin O'Neill god bless him has this weird habit of over spending on players wherever he goes.

Madrid's Nuri Sahin has joined Liverpool on a season long-loan

Arsenal had a deal agreed at £2m for the season

Liverpool then offered £5m, deal done

Not quite that simple according to my sources.

Arsenal's proposal included an option to buy at the end of the season for c£14M which although agreeable to Real Madrid turned out to be the stumbling block when his "people" rejected it in favour of the straight loan deal to liverpoo.

i am not an o neill fan at all

i didnt say he was good value, but compared to british strikers i think the price is about right (about 10 million after burnleys cut)

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Sounds like a combination of both.  Good signing for Liverpool.

The buying club obv doesn't care that the selling club has to give a cut elsewhere and they shouldn't overpay for someone because of it.

Tbh don't know his history and just used stats biasedly :P

1 in 4 in Scotland whether it's with an old firm club or not is pretty poor in that league, ofc not as bad if he was on the bench a lot.

Undoubtedly a good player but £10M for a season's loan with no option to buy?

Man C bid for Scott Sinclair accepted.

He's off Oop North.

How is it £10M?

Half fee half wages, simples.

Oh OK, I made it several million less than £10M if Liverpool are paying 70% of his wages.

Either way, a decent option and the only way Liverpool were going to attract a player of that calibre without CL football on offer.  Apparently, there is talk of a purchase option after the loan-period as well, but it'll be substantially more than the £12-14M Arsenal were willing to offer.

The interesting thing will be to see how the team lines up.  Can Allen and Sahin be accommodated in the same starting XI, and does this mean Gerrard will be used as a virtual number-9? The first game we'll find out could be the match against Arsenal.

I personally don't think cisse will score >10 goals this season,the guy seems to be an absolute gent from some stories iv heard,but I think he ran absolutely unreal last season,and was redic lucky.

He'd still walk into our team on a bad day like...

On spurs's website:

CLUB ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted 27 August 2012 08:51am

CLUB ANNOUNCES PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH REAL MADRID AND TRANSFER OF LUKA MODRIC

The Club can announce that it has signed a partnership agreement with Real Madrid FC and reached agreement for the transfer of Luka Modric, subject to medical, to the Spanish club.

The partnership agreement will see the two Clubs working together in respect of players, coaching, best practices and commercial relationships.

Real Madrid FC President, Florentino Perez Rodriguez, said, "The strong relationship and affinity between our two clubs has resulted in the cementing of a longer-term partnership and the successful transfer of Luka Modric. We are delighted to welcome Luka and look forward to working closely with Tottenham in the coming years."

Daniel Levy, Chairman, Tottenham Hotspur, commented, "Luka has been a terrific player for us and, whilst we preferred not to part with him, we are pleased that it is to Real Madrid, a club with which we now look forward to sharing a long and productive partnership."

Luka made 160 appearances for the Club, scoring 17 goals after joining from Dinamo Zagreb in the summer of 2008.

We wish him well for the future.

What exactly does "partnership agreement" mean in this context?

Not to be cynical, but is it "Real Madrid can pick & choose Spurs players to buy as & when they please, & can offload their failures to Spurs"?

More realistically, guess it revolves around "friendly" Loan deals etc?

Levy probably won't fall for "so we'll just take all your good players then..."

Suspect it will involve getting youth players sent to the other team for experience, fringe players that don't make the 25 (kaka?) being offered the other way, first refusal/option on players for sale, agreement we won't compete for players and suchthelike.

Glad to see the ball rolling as early as it has with luka. Both real and spurs need this done given our respective starts to the season.

a further point on why players from abroad are so cheap compared to from here

Premier league teams are pretty much the only sides who when they buy a player pay all or the majority of the fee upfront at once before the player has even played a game.

Somebody like valladolid who sold michu to swansea for 2 million, were reportedly offered 4 and 5 million from la liga sides but over a 4 or 5 year period. There are numerous examples of transfers that have never been paid abroad (and quite a few in the championship and lower)

Michu - is that the chap who did all the "rolling about on the floor in agony" theatricals when he got a mild palm in the face from Carlton Cole on Saturday, then got up, right as rein, as soon as Cole got carded?

No I'm pretty sure that was Chico, fairly sure it was rain too;)

Ahh yes, Chico, I remember now. Think he overdid the theatricals.



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I've had a wonderful evening.

This wasn't it.

lots of negativity around the spurs madrid partnership

here are "some" fringe players from madrid the last five or so seasons

metzelder, garay, gago, granero, van der vaart, negredo, javi garcia

There won't be that much negativity from the spurs end. Yes, the big concern is bale, but if he is going to go somewhere, we would always rather he went to a non-prem club.

That aside, seems like we benefit if there are swaps, loans and coaching opportunities. I can see us sharing pre-season tours, which will be lucrative with two attractive footballing teams (yes one better than the other, before anyone thinks I'm saying we are equals), plus business ventures.

There's a spurs saying: In Levy we trust. We don't always understand what he's doing, but he has a habit of getting it right.

You seem to be a big Levy fan Tal.  Is that something that is the case amongst all Spurs fans?  I had some dealings with him a few years ago and whilst he is undoubtedly a shrewd businessman I am not sure I would want him in charge of my football club.

All chairmen get criticised for selling our best players but Levy has been able to get good money for our players - £30m for berbatov (yours for £3m now apparently), £20m+ for Carrick, £33m for Luka. His style verges on the super-anal at times, with his apparent refusal to negotiate under any circumstances.

There's a rumour he bought the concrete for the new stadium at the low point of the credit crunch and saved £15m.

Against it, of course, we've bought some massively overpriced players but it is generally accepted that he's a savvy and astute chairman.

Taking total control of all finances when Harry was in charge was a rather good decision IMO...

Also worth saying that he isn't playing with his own money. As you prob know, spurs is owned by ENIC, which has a majority shareholder, who effectively bankrolls the club. Levy has a financial interest but is chiefly a front-of-house man, entrusted to make decisions.

Our finances are in really good order, compared to most of the clubs around us.

Comolli's appointment was a terrible idea, as he essentially bought a load of overpriced average players. Jol had - if rumours are to be believed - little if any say in the majority of the recruitments and that ultimately led to the breakdown in the relationship and the loss of a much loved manager (much more loved than Harry - even when he left, Harry divided opinion amongst the fans).

Overall, the view remains that we have an excellent chairman who is serving the club's best interests. I hope AVB works out of course!

I don't get Daniel Levy at all. A few years ago Spurs were riding high under Martin Jol who was delivering consistently good league finishes and who was a popular character. But Levy chooses to whip the carpet away and employ the latest continental manager in fashion in Juande Ramos instead. Unproven in English football Ramos turned out to be one big flop. Great progression and visionary insight there Daniel. So then plain old Harry comes along and takes Spurs from bottom to champions league football. Not satisfied with his first blunder Levy now repeats the exact same mistake. Sacks a popular character who is delivering consistently good league finishes and employs the latest continental manager in fashion. A guy unproven in English football and who has already turned out to be one big flop. I think Levy is some kind of football snob or has delusions of grandeur or something. 

How much do people think Liverpool could get for :

J. Cole
J. Henderson
C. Adam
S. Downing
J. Spearing

All could be on the chopping block and might move in the next couple of days.

IMO

Just don't get the Henderson/Downing thing. 

sorry missed Carroll out

Jay Spearing has been at Leicester this week

It's not £2m, I hope. Hoping for less than £1m

Think I've covered most of this above. I know a few spurs fans who have never liked Harry and an equal number who love him. Some of the opinion is that Harry courted the England job and very much caused the slump, with the players not knowing what was going on. Next thing, he hasn't resolved his differences with Sir Trevor Brooking, he has hired the agent that held united to ransom, he wants to negotiate a nice new juicy contract and he is on sky sports more that Brian Swanson, saying how terrible it is for the players when they don't know how long the manager has left.

He did turn the team around, he is an outstanding man-manager and coach and he's a real character. To keep the team together (modric and bale) and to bring in big names, we needed Champions League football. He was very unlucky that Chelsea's bus was so big, but third was a fair requirement of the team last season. Had it been purely because we didn't qualify, I think his sacking would have been harsh.

Harry did (as Mick "If it weren't for referees I'd have won the Champions League with every team I've managed" McCarthy said on Sunday) roll the grenade into AVB's dressing room by saying that the spurs team he left should challenge for the league.

I don't think Ramos was the problem as much as the system he brought in with him. He completely changed the setup with Frank Arnesen and Damien Comolli. It just didn't work and the European style didn't extend to the way spurs wanted to operate.

BTW am loving people's valuations of Henderson. Livermore must be worth £30m by those figures, and I don't even rate him!

My figures were the minimum I think Liverpool would sell for, wouldn't pay that price for either Downing or Henderson.

That highlights the distance the club was from reality when purchasing those players.

harry was anything but a popular character even with spurs fans

Spurs potential purchases are Yann M'Vila and Hugo Lloris.

The Lyon sleeps restlessly tonight

You'd best Rennes before anyone notices an error

Think people underestimate what a total and complete scumbag the man is supposed to be behind the scenes.  My guess would be that when everything was going well he was more than willing to rub it in and hold Levy to ransom and the DL I met wouldn't hesitate to get his revenge if and when he sensed an opportunity and him and the money men at ENIC have such a long history he will be backed by them to the hilt.

If Spurs wanted a new man I reckon David Moyes had about the best credentials for the job. Yet Levy seems to have his head turned by the latest trend in continental fashion just like how a woman spots a nice pair of Italian shoes in a shop window. Spurs need to build a passionate team spirit with everyone fighting for each other if Levy wants to fulfill his lofty ambitions of league success. I don't know how romancing Ramos behind Jol's back, sacking Harry, and touting the club captain around achieves that togetherness feeling at the club. If Levy wants progression he shouldn't keep changing his manager. Moyes would have been a steady longterm marriage whereas AVB is more like frantic sex with a waitress in Puerto Banus. It wont last. Haven't we learnt anything from the waitress in Magaluf incident Daniel?

Zero chance Moyes would go to Spurs.

He's just sitting on his hands til Fergie goes.

Absolute Stone Waller.... Ask Howard Webb.

understatement of the year, if football wasnt such a closed shop a lot and i mean a lot more would come out about good old 'arry

according to gary wiltshire this morning somebody has had 100k on harry going to west ham with baldy

not sure which part of this "story" is funniest to be honest

Forest sign Henri Lansbury from Arsenal. Don't know much about his abilities.

Any views from Hammers or Gunners fans?

he is ok if he works a bit harder he will be a good championship player in time and a good run in a side

forest a good fit for him i think

cant understand this julio ceasar move to qpr at all

firstly he hasnt been very good for the last two seasons

secondly they are presumably paying rob green a massive wage ( i dont rate the bloke but even so)

doesnt strike me as a mark hughes signing either

chelsea appear to have agreed a fee for falcao

wow that really will give them a chance this season cracking striker

Classic.

Fred offered a special in shop bet, was way out of line like Man U Cup/Prem 5/1 when should be 3/1. I managed £50 across two shops, my dad, mum and gf managed £100 between them, absolutely ridiculous. The thought of them allowing a 100k bet on a market like this, with the dodgiest man in English football is laughable.

I think you're going to love him if he applies himself which he almost certainly will.

Very decent player IMO.

Is this true?
He's abso incred. I said they should have gone for him at the start of the summer as Atletico were the only team that would probably still value Torres quite highly.
Torres now looks to be getting hotter so adding Falcao would be tasty.

Was at loan for majority of our promotion winning season. A lot of talent but lacked the application that some of our other midfielders* showed so found himself on the bench a bit.

*We had a pretty strong midfield for a championship side.

no just rumour

it would have to be a hell of a bid 50 million +

That is just hilarious.

On another note I see Villa have put in a bid for Joe Bennett.  Lambert seems absolutely committed to ensuring they are a decent championship side.

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No surprise really, a very typical Lambert signing.

Spurs.

Dembele

Only club to trigger a £15m release clause


This transfer window will not be the same without Harry leaning out of the window of his leased luxury car at the training ground breifing the press pack, sadly.

Do you think we'll hold onto Cabayae and Tiote?  I am sure Arsenal will come in for Cabaye tomorrow / Friday

Also, cant beleive it look like Theo on way to Man City.  The 'Arry rumours were sweeping the South Coast and twitter at the weekend and Allardyce shortned in "next to go" from 12/1 to 2/1 in the last 4 days....I'd say its nailed on

i am sure bryan swnason or whoever will be camped outside his car

just so he can tell everybody player a is a "triffic player, lovely lad and i tried to sign him five years ago for a million but chairman wouldnt sanction it"

 rotflmfao

He'll still ring in to sky sports news to give his views, to explain what spurs are doing and to confirm he would have got a better deal.

Barton having medical at Marseille. Anyone hoping he fails it, just to let the saga continue?

Loved his tweets from the plane!

Hoped he would join diouf @ leeds

Berbatov to Juventus, apparently

Big market plunge Llorente to join Arsenal

In from 7-1 to 3-1 today

That would seem to be an odd one for both parties.

With Julio Cesar house hunting in Knightsbridge, and learning Shepherds Bush dialect, Rob Green meets his new best friend

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i hope hughes is aware ceasar hasnt actually been that good the last two seasons?

4 year contract for Cesar

Just as well Mr Mittal's got a few billion, nasty contrat if they were to go down



Hearing Jordan Rhodes Huddersfield to Blackburn a done deal. Fee rising to £8m with add-ons (e.g. Rovers promoted, etc)

Blackburn fan, not sure what I make about the signing if confirmed. Got more excited when we were reportedly in for Rickie Lambert.

Berbatov to Fullham? Surely not.

jol loves him and he was awesome under jol at spurs

be a good fit imo

I'm not sure why you would think that as we definitely need another striker.

RVP gone TBSWEL slinging his hook the sooner the better, Chamach and mystery-man Park on their way  too leaves us short in that department.

looks like it could be 12 million for rhodes

for me that is more obscene than probably anything else ever

Adam to stoke, Dempsey to Liverpool.....Adam can now spend the next two years looking into the air turning his head from side to side as the ball pings twenty feet above him

4.5 up front and then a bunch of clauses I hear.


Andy Carroll.

carroll was silly

i will say it now i have massive doubts rhodes will even score 15 goals a season at championship level yet alone premiership

I agree, big doubt.  Whats more of a ridic/obscene decision is we now have more strikers than defenders in the squad, last season we werent exactly short of goals. 

Overs this season please. The lad can finish.
If the clauses only kick in after promotion then he'll be paying for himself.

pablo hernandez to swansea for 7.5 million

now that could be a bargain

Liverpool's bid for Fernando Llorente has hit a snag. Athletic Bilboa insist they want £25m whilst liverpool refuse to pay less than £35m for him.

Man U agree to sell Berbatov to Fiorentina, Berbatov fails to show for the medical!

Hopefully Celtic bring in at least one new face after securing the European money.

But Lenny is leaving it late to get real quality.

QPR have reached agreement with Real Madrid for the permanent transfer of midfielder Esteban Granero

Berbatov medical at Fulham


QPR playing Football manager 2012 this window, incredible amount of activity

Exciting times.

I wonder what someone coming from the Bernabau makes of Loftus Road the first time he sees it.

"Esteban, actually corrugated iron painted blue is very trendy in this country..."

They got a keeper in and gave him what 3 games? maybe they should sack hughes if they lose at the weekend too.

Wasn't even that long - there was talk of buying Cesar after just the first game against Swansea.

Paddy is/was better....no wonder he was smug sending the texts and phone calls when he was pissed up lol

You think Paddy would have been capped by Eng if he was English?

Kaboul out for 4 months after knee surgery. Probably means Dawson stays, or if he goes, we'll keep Thud as a makeshift emergency replacement.

Aren't QPR fans a bit worried though?

If the owners get bored/fed up/found to be not fit and proper whatever it maybe, with these contracts the club are taking on, its got Portsmouth overtones hasn't it?

(I realise this could be the case for a number of clubs)

Tony Fernandes does seem like a decent sort though, and he does appear to have actual money of his own (as opposed to Glazer-type phantom cash).

Given the recent owners we've had, I think we'd gladly accept Jack the Ripper in charge.

No but greene has being abs rank for a few years, his confidence will never come back since that game in 2010..Paddy do ok last season for QPR?

said it earlier in thread

ceasar signing would make more sense if he was actually any good anymore , on the last two seasons he isnt a massive + on kenny or green

He is only 32 though.  No reason for a keeper to deteriorate at that age unless he has had a serious injury.  I think he will do a decent job for them which can't be said about Robert Green who I think has serious issues dealing with pressure.  He is excellent for long periods then screws up when it matters.  He is the opposite of clutch.

he was overweight for long periods of last season and the season previous

i cant remember the game but tim vickery the excellent south american pundit said he made a high profile error and has never recovered bit like green really

richard wright to man city

last week he was homesick at preston amazing what four times the wages will do!

Robert Green has always had the potential for a massive rick in him. He did it at Norwich for pretty much his whole time at the club (pressure or no pressure) but outside of that was an excellent goalkeeper.

Unfortunately for him in the modern media, he will make one of these ricks and everyone will jump on it. It doesn't help one of them was about as high profile as it gets.

Press reports in Italy reporting that Maicon has signed for Manchester City

Nicky Maynard to Cardiff City. Wish they would sign a defender.

good signing though playing style will suit

Andy Carroll at West Ham.

weird window

rhodes to blackburn............just me or could he have done better?

He is 10x better than both of those with one leg and one arm

Good grief, Dempsey to Villa!

I think it's a bluff.

Maybe, probably.

Re-reading the story, it seems a fee has been agreed, but he has not signed.

That's my read Tony, that they're establishing a price.

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Not transfer deadline day without this

just said he wants liverpool


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Ahh, I'm so naive! You mean they agree a price with Villa for £7 mill, then they have laid down a marker, & will end up selling him for 8 or 9 mill to someone else?

lol

wanna buy a watch jim? Maybe this laptop i have no idea how to use (ahem cough cough)

'of course I'm not going back to Portsmouth Jim' (well not until the price is shunted out a good few points and my ' racing' friends can bet it for me anyway)

Not necessarily more money but by agreeing a price with Villa they are establishing a market price at which they are willing to do business.

Having agreed a price with Fulham Villa can now approach the player but if other clubs come in and match that price then they too can try to agree terms with the player.

Gotcha.

Hearing that Dimitar Berbatov's move to Fulham has broken down as the offer arrived at a fax machine 3 feet away & not directly at his feet.

Along with Klinsmann, the best player I have seen at WHL, but if the shorts had pockets, he would have used them.

a superb player

i was lucky enough to see him at whl during his best season and he was frankly unplayable most of the time. The fallacy he doesnt "run around" enough is a classic British football mentality

I am not always a massive fan of stats in football but they show when at spurs he did just as much running as most forwards in the league

Prob a little far but yes he did more than people say. The season he was on fire, Robinson would kick the ball from the edge of the box, it would go to Berba and he would bring it down on his foot as though the ball were a beanbag. Didn't matter how many people were round him, he held it until another white shirt was free.

The Reading game springs to mind. He was completely unplayable that day.

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Surely this is a horrible window for Spurs??

We're shifting deadwood, brought in Adebayor and Sigurdssen, with a decent looking centre half.

If we sign Moutinho and Lloris, I'd say we've done well. If we get a Levy bonus buy as well, it'll be our window.

VDV has family issues that led him to come to London and now family issues to lead him home. He was playing too deep for us and slowing up play, plus he could only last an hour. His time to move on but really enjoyed watching him.

'arry bassett

" to be honest i have never heard of this garcia bloke but he is spanish so hes bound to be decent"

makes me cringe to think how much he is paid for this spot every year to tell us he hasnt heard of anybody but he is sure they are a good player

That's a big fail from Sky. They should have got Dave Bassett in. At least he has management experience.

3 England Internationals at Wednesday.

bothroyd a good one

jones appears one of a few managers who can make him try

Can Owen still sign for a club after the deadline or will he have to wait to jan?

Beckford to Huddersfiled

Loan with permanent options end of season

Can still sign after the window has closed.

Spent force iyo ?

not really

good relationship with Grayson, and I think that counts for a lot

He never really put it in game after game for us, and Pearson hates those sorts and gives up on them rather than give them opportunities/time

If Grayson can put an arm round him, he'll score plenty in this division

agreed

really huddersfield have got a lot of money in and got a slightly worse striker in return (probably just as good if grayson gets him going again)

wont change there style at all as both do very little work outside the box

Beckford was called off at the last minute. Stalled over the permanent clauses in the loan agreement

fletcher looking a bargain....

was awful on Friday in terms of effort!

not fit yet

think it was more of a case of he doesn't care..........

wouldnt mind seeing him a decent team that can actualy create something too