The transfer deadline thread

[TightEnd]

Madrid's Nuri Sahin has joined Liverpool on a season long-loan

Arsenal had a deal agreed at £2m for the season

Liverpool then offered £5m, deal done

[Karabiner]

Madrid's Nuri Sahin has joined Liverpool on a season long-loan

Arsenal had a deal agreed at £2m for the season

Liverpool then offered £5m, deal done

Not quite that simple according to my sources.

Arsenal's proposal included an option to buy at the end of the season for c£14M which although agreeable to Real Madrid turned out to be the stumbling block when his "people" rejected it in favour of the straight loan deal to liverpoo.

[horseplayer]

I think Fletcher is a skillful player and have always liked him but his goals record is around 1 in 4, even in Scottish football it's around 1 in 4. So £14m is steep for a player who wont be getting you 20 goals a season. Compare that to say Papiss Cisse who Newcastle signed for £8m. His goal record is around 1 in 2 which is more like it for a top striker and last season he blasted 13 goals from 14 games. Demba Ba was free and he also has a 1 in 2 record. So yeah by comparison paying twice as much for a striker that scores half as many is expensive. Then again Martin O'Neill god bless him has this weird habit of over spending on players wherever he goes.

i am not an o neill fan at all

i didnt say he was good value, but compared to british strikers i think the price is about right (about 10 million after burnleys cut)

[kinboshi]

Madrid's Nuri Sahin has joined Liverpool on a season long-loan

Arsenal had a deal agreed at £2m for the season

Liverpool then offered £5m, deal done

Not quite that simple according to my sources.

Arsenal's proposal included an option to buy at the end of the season for c£14M which although agreeable to Real Madrid turned out to be the stumbling block when his "people" rejected it in favour of the straight loan deal to liverpoo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19364375

Sounds like a combination of both.  Good signing for Liverpool.

[mondatoo]

I think Fletcher is a skillful player and have always liked him but his goals record is around 1 in 4, even in Scottish football it's around 1 in 4. So £14m is steep for a player who wont be getting you 20 goals a season. Compare that to say Papiss Cisse who Newcastle signed for £8m. His goal record is around 1 in 2 which is more like it for a top striker and last season he blasted 13 goals from 14 games. Demba Ba was free and he also has a 1 in 2 record. So yeah by comparison paying twice as much for a striker that scores half as many is expensive. Then again Martin O'Neill god bless him has this weird habit of over spending on players wherever he goes.

i am not an o neill fan at all

i didnt say he was good value, but compared to british strikers i think the price is about right (about 10 million after burnleys cut)

The buying club obv doesn't care that the selling club has to give a cut elsewhere and they shouldn't overpay for someone because of it.

Tbh don't know his history and just used stats biasedly

1 in 4 in Scotland whether it's with an old firm club or not is pretty poor in that league, ofc not as bad if he was on the bench a lot.

[Karabiner]

Madrid's Nuri Sahin has joined Liverpool on a season long-loan

Arsenal had a deal agreed at £2m for the season

Liverpool then offered £5m, deal done

Not quite that simple according to my sources.

Arsenal's proposal included an option to buy at the end of the season for c£14M which although agreeable to Real Madrid turned out to be the stumbling block when his "people" rejected it in favour of the straight loan deal to liverpoo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19364375

Sounds like a combination of both.  Good signing for Liverpool.

Undoubtedly a good player but £10M for a season's loan with no option to buy?

[TightEnd]

Man C bid for Scott Sinclair accepted.

He's off Oop North.

[kinboshi]

Madrid's Nuri Sahin has joined Liverpool on a season long-loan

Arsenal had a deal agreed at £2m for the season

Liverpool then offered £5m, deal done

Not quite that simple according to my sources.

Arsenal's proposal included an option to buy at the end of the season for c£14M which although agreeable to Real Madrid turned out to be the stumbling block when his "people" rejected it in favour of the straight loan deal to liverpoo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19364375

Sounds like a combination of both.  Good signing for Liverpool.

Undoubtedly a good player but £10M for a season's loan with no option to buy?

How is it £10M?

[Karabiner]

Madrid's Nuri Sahin has joined Liverpool on a season long-loan

Arsenal had a deal agreed at £2m for the season

Liverpool then offered £5m, deal done

Not quite that simple according to my sources.

Arsenal's proposal included an option to buy at the end of the season for c£14M which although agreeable to Real Madrid turned out to be the stumbling block when his "people" rejected it in favour of the straight loan deal to liverpoo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19364375

Sounds like a combination of both.  Good signing for Liverpool.

Undoubtedly a good player but £10M for a season's loan with no option to buy?

How is it £10M?

Half fee half wages, simples.

[kinboshi]

Oh OK, I made it several million less than £10M if Liverpool are paying 70% of his wages.

Either way, a decent option and the only way Liverpool were going to attract a player of that calibre without CL football on offer.  Apparently, there is talk of a purchase option after the loan-period as well, but it'll be substantially more than the £12-14M Arsenal were willing to offer.

The interesting thing will be to see how the team lines up.  Can Allen and Sahin be accommodated in the same starting XI, and does this mean Gerrard will be used as a virtual number-9? The first game we'll find out could be the match against Arsenal.

[buzzharvey22]

I think Fletcher is a skillful player and have always liked him but his goals record is around 1 in 4, even in Scottish football it's around 1 in 4. So £14m is steep for a player who wont be getting you 20 goals a season. Compare that to say Papiss Cisse who Newcastle signed for £8m. His goal record is around 1 in 2 which is more like it for a top striker and last season he blasted 13 goals from 14 games. Demba Ba was free and he also has a 1 in 2 record. So yeah by comparison paying twice as much for a striker that scores half as many is expensive. Then again Martin O'Neill god bless him has this weird habit of over spending on players wherever he goes.

I personally don't think cisse will score >10 goals this season,the guy seems to be an absolute gent from some stories iv heard,but I think he ran absolutely unreal last season,and was redic lucky.

He'd still walk into our team on a bad day like...

[Tal]

On spurs's website:

CLUB ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted 27 August 2012 08:51am

CLUB ANNOUNCES PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH REAL MADRID AND TRANSFER OF LUKA MODRIC

The Club can announce that it has signed a partnership agreement with Real Madrid FC and reached agreement for the transfer of Luka Modric, subject to medical, to the Spanish club.

The partnership agreement will see the two Clubs working together in respect of players, coaching, best practices and commercial relationships.

Real Madrid FC President, Florentino Perez Rodriguez, said, "The strong relationship and affinity between our two clubs has resulted in the cementing of a longer-term partnership and the successful transfer of Luka Modric. We are delighted to welcome Luka and look forward to working closely with Tottenham in the coming years."

Daniel Levy, Chairman, Tottenham Hotspur, commented, "Luka has been a terrific player for us and, whilst we preferred not to part with him, we are pleased that it is to Real Madrid, a club with which we now look forward to sharing a long and productive partnership."

Luka made 160 appearances for the Club, scoring 17 goals after joining from Dinamo Zagreb in the summer of 2008.

We wish him well for the future.

[tikay]

What exactly does "partnership agreement" mean in this context?

Not to be cynical, but is it "Real Madrid can pick & choose Spurs players to buy as & when they please, & can offload their failures to Spurs"?

More realistically, guess it revolves around "friendly" Loan deals etc?

[Tal]

What exactly does "partnership agreement" mean in this context?

Not to be cynical, but is it "Real Madrid can pick & choose Spurs players to buy as & when they please, & can offload their failures to Spurs"?

More realistically, guess it revolves around "friendly" Loan deals etc?

Levy probably won't fall for "so we'll just take all your good players then..."

Suspect it will involve getting youth players sent to the other team for experience, fringe players that don't make the 25 (kaka?) being offered the other way, first refusal/option on players for sale, agreement we won't compete for players and suchthelike.

Glad to see the ball rolling as early as it has with luka. Both real and spurs need this done given our respective starts to the season.

[horseplayer]

a further point on why players from abroad are so cheap compared to from here

Premier league teams are pretty much the only sides who when they buy a player pay all or the majority of the fee upfront at once before the player has even played a game.

Somebody like valladolid who sold michu to swansea for 2 million, were reportedly offered 4 and 5 million from la liga sides but over a 4 or 5 year period. There are numerous examples of transfers that have never been paid abroad (and quite a few in the championship and lower)