Title: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 12, 2012, 02:30:48 PM You will find that the older you get the more ageism gets up your nose.
There are days when I will suffer fools and days when I'm just not having it. You always know when the diatribe starts off with, "Sorry to be cynical and negative" You are about to hear a dollop of crap. My point of view is this. If you can't walk up to someone and insult them face to face, don't bother doing it on the internet. The reason a lot of older players gave up the game was that they found most of the younger players boring in the extreme. In essence they hadn't lived and had little to offer in the way of parlegation. It just so happens that far more younger players have come and gone than older players. They burnt themselves out four betting each other to death. Now, there are some fantastic young poker players, but they have the good sense to get it quietly. These players I respect. I have found that the most vociferous on this site are the most fragile, they are very good at dishing it out but don't like it up em. I expect the be scrubbed off quite a few Xmas card lists, but with the current price of postage that's probably not a bad thing for any of us. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: George2Loose on October 12, 2012, 02:33:41 PM In before mods delete this topic
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: Woodsey on October 12, 2012, 02:36:49 PM In before mods delete this topic Hope not, could be a fun thread. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 12, 2012, 03:07:16 PM The only reason anyone would delete this is because they were afraid of free speech. Or afraid of things that go bump in the night. Or just plain afraid.
No, I don't think the mods will stop what might become an in depth and exciting thread. Let's get some of the no-thinks thinking. Let's live a little before we die. Up the workers! Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: action man on October 12, 2012, 03:14:29 PM i stand by everything i said on that status as i do on all my status's. I don't think its fair on the posters of my facebook to have their comments here without them knowing, i think the opening status would have been just fine.
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: AndrewT on October 12, 2012, 03:19:09 PM i stand by everything i said on that status as i do on all my status's. I don't think its fair on the posters of my facebook to have their comments here without them knowing, i think the opening status would have been just fine. I think you're right. Sid, I've removed the Facebook stuff - people post on there with the assumption its distribution is limited. The general topic can be debated of course. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: sovietsong on October 12, 2012, 03:21:38 PM For the first time i managed to read the OP before it was edited.
I'm so out of it though i'm not sure what all the excitement is about. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: action man on October 12, 2012, 03:22:55 PM sid's just getting self conscious about his age again
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: Doobs on October 12, 2012, 03:27:49 PM You will find that the older you get the more ageism gets up your nose. There are days when I will suffer fools and days when I'm just not having it. You always know when the diatribe starts off with, "Sorry to be cynical and negative" You are about to hear a dollop of crap. My point of view is this. If you can't walk up to someone and insult them face to face, don't bother doing it on the internet. The reason a lot of older players gave up the game was that they found most of the younger players boring in the extreme. In essence they hadn't lived and had little to offer in the way of parlegation. It just so happens that far more younger players have come and gone than older players. They burnt themselves out four betting each other to death. Now, there are some fantastic young poker players, but they have the good sense to get it quietly. These players I respect. I have found that the most vociferous on this site are the most fragile, they are very good at dishing it out but don't like it up em. I expect the be scrubbed off quite a few Xmas card lists, but with the current price of postage that's probably not a bad thing for any of us. This all sounds a bit ageist to me. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 12, 2012, 03:52:35 PM The tail end of the post that follows includes only Action Man and myself.
Richard James Trigg lol dunno why im getting stick here? look back through this status, not once have I said anything about colclough. sid, i didnt critisise your game at all. Just whether i believed you had the credentials to be writing books on anti-tilt methods and charging per hour for coaching. 42 minutes ago · Like Sid Harris You did not say anything about Colclough, did not defend him either. Just lit the touch paper and stood back, it's still a few weeks off Nov 5th. Just copied your post about me on Blonde as follows: he joined my table yesterday and nitted it up for 4 orbits before before opening the button to 2500 at 300/600. ....... That was while we were both still in the tournament. Shows what a class act you are. 15 minutes ago · Like Sid Harris You are welcome to come over and see my credentials any time. 13 minutes ago · Like Sid Harris I also suggest you read my latest book. How to Stop Gambling Now - available on Kindle, this will give you a deeper understanding of my credentials. www.howtostopgamblingnow.net How to Stop Gambling Now | the online book howtostopgamblingnow.net How to Stop Gambling NowAn Insight into the Gambler’s Mind By Sidney HarrisGambl... See more 11 minutes ago · Like · Remove Preview Richard James Trigg yeah well your skills in life which include writing, definitely don't include poker 9 minutes ago · Like Richard James Trigg That "STOP" sign is rather prevalent in your work sid, i seem to remember it from "STOP TILT" rather hoping the next one is, STOP your fixation with facebook ramblings NOW 7 minutes ago · Like Sid Harris Who's on tilt now? 5 minutes ago · Like Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: action man on October 12, 2012, 03:53:17 PM mods, let him have his fun, he aint got long left anyhow
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: AndrewT on October 12, 2012, 03:57:30 PM Sid Harris You are welcome to come over and see my credentials any time. 13 minutes ago · Like Given the age difference Sid, I think this counts as grooming. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 12, 2012, 04:01:33 PM Even Jimmy Savile wouldn't stoop that low.
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: action man on October 12, 2012, 04:05:58 PM Sid Harris You are welcome to come over and see my credentials any time. 13 minutes ago · Like Given the age difference Sid, I think this counts as grooming. hhahha Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 12, 2012, 04:17:33 PM The clues are all there:
if everyday was sunday id go domino hustling OAP's This guy has a real problem with old people, and that last laugh was very hollow. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: millidonk on October 12, 2012, 04:19:24 PM On a more serious note why is 'fatism' the only socially accepted form of discrimination? It gets on my tits, literally.
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: Royal Flush on October 12, 2012, 04:21:38 PM To be fair Tirgg its pretty clear you have a very destructive gambling problem, perhaps we should turn Sid into an ally and he can help you to beat the addiction?
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: action man on October 12, 2012, 04:21:52 PM On a more serious note why is 'fatism' the only socially accepted form of discrimination? It gets on my tits, literally. very good Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 12, 2012, 05:56:27 PM You will find that the older you get the more ageism gets up your nose. To the moderator. Once you removed the heart of the matter, the whole ethos was lost. You need to man up and get a little jiggy, if people want to talk crap on facebook or twitter - it's there for the world to see. There are days when I will suffer fools and days when I'm just not having it. You always know when the diatribe starts off with, "Sorry to be cynical and negative" You are about to hear a dollop of crap. My point of view is this. If you can't walk up to someone and insult them face to face, don't bother doing it on the internet. The reason a lot of older players gave up the game was that they found most of the younger players boring in the extreme. In essence they hadn't lived and had little to offer in the way of parlegation. It just so happens that far more younger players have come and gone than older players. They burnt themselves out four betting each other to death. Now, there are some fantastic young poker players, but they have the good sense to get it quietly. These players I respect. I have found that the most vociferous on this site are the most fragile, they are very good at dishing it out but don't like it up em. I expect the be scrubbed off quite a few Xmas card lists, but with the current price of postage that's probably not a bad thing for any of us. Fancy there might be a bit of clique on this site. You're denying your followers the chance make up their own minds. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: AndrewT on October 12, 2012, 06:03:45 PM Who had Page 2 in the 'When will Blonde get called a clique' sweepstake?
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: sovietsong on October 12, 2012, 06:09:57 PM Who had Page 2 in the 'When will Blonde get called a clique' sweepstake? narrowly missed out fancied it to come up on the first page... Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: Woodsey on October 12, 2012, 06:11:11 PM Who had Page 2 in the 'When will Blonde get called a clique' sweepstake? There are cliques here whether you like it or not I'm afraid. Many are friends in real life and that's just what happens. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: TightEnd on October 12, 2012, 06:28:38 PM You will find that the older you get the more ageism gets up your nose. To the moderator. Once you removed the heart of the matter, the whole ethos was lost. You need to man up and get a little jiggy, if people want to talk crap on facebook or twitter - it's there for the world to see. There are days when I will suffer fools and days when I'm just not having it. You always know when the diatribe starts off with, "Sorry to be cynical and negative" You are about to hear a dollop of crap. My point of view is this. If you can't walk up to someone and insult them face to face, don't bother doing it on the internet. The reason a lot of older players gave up the game was that they found most of the younger players boring in the extreme. In essence they hadn't lived and had little to offer in the way of parlegation. It just so happens that far more younger players have come and gone than older players. They burnt themselves out four betting each other to death. Now, there are some fantastic young poker players, but they have the good sense to get it quietly. These players I respect. I have found that the most vociferous on this site are the most fragile, they are very good at dishing it out but don't like it up em. I expect the be scrubbed off quite a few Xmas card lists, but with the current price of postage that's probably not a bad thing for any of us. Fancy there might be a bit of clique on this site. You're denying your followers the chance make up their own minds. Sid Not going to allow a voice to those who hold grudges, on here If you think someone wishing someone was dead is going to stay on here..no thanks. Keep that crap on facebook The deletion was absolutely right in my opinion Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 12, 2012, 08:19:14 PM Just went through the whole facebook thread and that offensive remark is still on there. I don't blame you for not wanting anything to do with it.
The crux of the matter is that Trigg is still mine host to that offensive remark even now. If he had a shred of decency, he would apologise to the person the remark is aimed at and take down the offensive remark. But don't hold your breath on that count. Flushy seems to have Trigg's measure. I would be of no help to Trigg - but there are plenty of people in the phone book who would be. The delusions of grandeur are part of the illness. The other side of the coin is deep depression. My brand of therapy specialises in tough love (Benny Hill double-entendre merchants - save it for someone else.) This guy is too fragile for that. As for Trigg's assertion that I'm on the way out - I would say to him that the even the dying lion holds the rat in contempt. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: mondatoo on October 12, 2012, 10:40:20 PM On a more serious note why is 'fatism' the only socially accepted form of discrimination? It gets on my tits. This could've been such a great post :P Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 13, 2012, 07:10:38 AM You came you saw and you conquered. You the Wizard made them all run away, and then after playing day and night for goodness knows how long you had a win or two - and kerching and kapow you found a voice.
Then you make the brilliant mistake that all ego trippers make of thinking that everybody else thinks like you. You take a group of people, unknown to you, and assume that they were too lazy to change their ways to compete with you. I could name dozens of these players who would willingly pay not to sit at a table with a bore of your calibre, myself included. People have been going broke playing poker since the day it was invented. It has nothing to do with you or the wonder of your play. When the next wave of lemmings come along in a couple of years, you will be the dinosaur;but that wouldn't have occurred to you. And when the onslaught of lemmings from the near and far east hone in on you, your wizadry will be better employed playing quiddich. There's a very strong rumour that there is a guy in Semipalatinsk who is on the verge of completing a piece of software that plays a thousand poker games at once, showing a consistent profit. Don't rule out working for McDonalds in the long run. I am keeping this light because I know your state of mind far better than you do. But I don't feel bad about the ten grand cheque - the charity I designate is Help the Aged, you would only have spunked this money up anyway. This will give you a chance to put your money where your mouth is. I used to take a full page advertisement in the Sporting Life, endorsed by Mark Winstanley, who used to write a week end column in the paper at the time called "Beat the Book" which was in direct opposition to Pricewise in the Racing Post. Mark's endorsement, of "Sidney Harris is the only judge I listen to." is in context and was repeated whenever my advertisement ran, which was three or four times a week. The ads were either half or full page broadsheet. It is no secret that I had a long standing friendship with Mark and that we would discuss various form issues on a daily basis. I think writing out this cheque is going to be the catalyst for you. This is where your life is going to change for the better. I think it's important for your esteem that you do this, it will show you are a man of your word. Remember, the darkest hour is just before the dawn, as the sun comes up in Sheffield this will be a great day for you. El Sid. This was a reply to a post Trigg made around 7am this morning betting £10,000 that he would give to charity and calling me a liar on something that could easily be substantiated. I don't know if it was Trigg or a moderator that removed the post - If it was Trigg that removed it after thinking that his money is worth more than his word - so be it. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: MANTIS01 on October 13, 2012, 10:54:06 AM You shouldn't really treat old people differently to anybody else. That's why I think it's ok to hustle old people at dominoes just like you would hustle anybody else. But when I am old I will make sure I have some hustling moves of my own so if any young gun tries to come hustling me at dominoes I will be ready to stick it up em.
Disappointed we are in 'winter days'. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: bobAlike on October 13, 2012, 11:18:12 AM How come Triggs post was deleted? Didn't seem offensive to me.
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 13, 2012, 11:23:16 AM How come Triggs post was deleted? Didn't seem offensive to me. Hope it wasn't Trigg that removed it and the bet still stands. With the price of fuel going up this winter - The money will be far better used in the hands of Help the Aged than Trigg ferrying it back to the bookmakers.Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: TightEnd on October 13, 2012, 11:23:33 AM How come Triggs post was deleted? Didn't seem offensive to me. It wasn't offensive, and it wasn't deleted by a mod that I can see (we keep a board of them!). Perhaps Rick thought better of it Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 13, 2012, 11:26:16 AM Never backed out on a bet in my life. I would literally sooner die than do that. How do you live with yourself if your word is useless?
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: SuuPRlim on October 13, 2012, 11:27:03 AM I'm confused, why has this thread even happened?
Sid as an outsider all your posts here give the impression of someone who has a huge chip on there shoulder in regards to the success of the younger generation of poker players. Trigg's correct in what he says, I know lots of older guys who used to beat poker handsomely, but now can't, mostly due to the game changing around them, I don't attribute this to laziness like Trigg said though, the game just changed and they didn't have the drive to change with it, I can understand this perfectly. I also know lots of older guys who have adapted and changed and are beating poker equally as they were before, in fact these guys often have the liquidity and the temperament advantage over a lot of younger guys and are far more successful. Then there are younger guys who don't work hard enough and fall of the radar and go broke/leave gambling, and the younger guys who work extremely hard and do very well. So really the point you've made makes no sense and looks very much like personal rant at trigg,, if you're annoyed about a facebook comment, I don't know what this comment was, then why haven't you said that outwardly, or more inappropriately discussed with Trigg in private? If it was about someone dying like is hinted then I can understand you being offended it sounds in very bad taste, but the comments and digs about Trigg's gambling are just way OOL imo. All very bizarre. Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: bobAlike on October 13, 2012, 11:27:38 AM How come Triggs post was deleted? Didn't seem offensive to me. It wasn't offensive, and it wasn't deleted by a mod that I can see (we keep a board of them!). Perhaps Rick thought better of it Probably 10 thousand reasons lol Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: TightEnd on October 13, 2012, 11:32:18 AM Never backed out on a bet in my life. I would literally sooner die than do that. How do you live with yourself if your word is useless? Sid In my opinion you are better off - on here- concentrating on the debate as it started - old uns, young uns, who is competitive at the game etc - than making it personal towards another poster. That's about the 3rd or 4th go at Trigg a propos of nothing except a personal rant..... You can take that sort of stuff up privately, or on everyone's beloved facebook, but it really doesn't fit with the type of debates we want on here thanks Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: action man on October 13, 2012, 11:38:20 AM its hopeless debating/arguing with you sid, i can't be arsed with it at all.
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 13, 2012, 11:42:58 AM What happened to the missing post?
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: action man on October 13, 2012, 11:44:21 AM i deleted it and deleted you from my facebook, fixate on someone else from now on please
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: El Sid on October 13, 2012, 12:41:43 PM Was it something I said?
Title: Re: Ageism gets up my nose. Post by: claypole on October 13, 2012, 04:52:45 PM I'm 41 Sid...currently sat in a pub in Sheffield getting drunk, sweating Soccer Saturdat and C4 racing with Trigg and Brummie, whos 40 and looks 50 - he's definitely a degenerate but certainly not ageist :)
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