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You do know he was Celtic Manager?

Will ever get a "big" job?

You do know he was Celtic Manager?

Villa, he made them competitve as it coincided with Lerner taking over from Ellis and investing money

When O'Neill left when Lerner pulled the funding required to compete for top six, they fell from grace



I am biased, will always be a great in my eyes. What he did at Leicester was incredible

However if he fails at Sunderland which looks likely I do think a top six club type job won't be his going forward

He will always get jobs at mid ranking clubs though

Yeh was Langley said. Think I could manage Rangers or Celtic 5-10 years ago and win the league

Yeh was Langley said. Think I could manage Rangers or Celtic 5-10 years ago and win the league

If you were Rangers manager 5 years ago, I'd have my maximum on Celtic to win the league.

And vice versa :)

statement still stands

It's generally a bad idea to troll about Celtic and The Rangers on this board, things escalate very quickly. You're fairly new on here and probably don't know any better but the last thing most on here want to read is yet another argument oN the size, merits etc. of Celtic compared to medium sized Engliish clubs like Spurs, Newcastle and the like its been done to death on numerous occasions and no one ever changes their view.

MON struggled initially with Villa and then finished in the top 6 every season (I think). Given time Sunderland will be fine but I can't see him getting a big job if we are talking Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea or Arsenal. I thought he would have been a good fit for Liverpool.

I'm insulted!

I personally don't see this as trolling? As with most subjects everyone has their own opinion. I wouldn't say Celtic or Rangers are a big club personally but that doesn't mean I'm trolling/right

I personally don't see this as trolling? As with most subjects everyone has their own opinion. I wouldn't say Celtic or Rangers are a big club personally but that doesn't mean I'm trolling/right

I quoted TL900s post.

The post match interviews would have been fun though.

Yup and I quoted yours

and no I don't see celtic or rangers as 'big' clubs. That is my opinion of which I am entitled

and no I don't see celtic or rangers as 'big' clubs. That is my opinion of which I am entitled

Not many big clubs in Britain then....

Celtic and rangers are only big clubs in Scotland.

quoted so you don't get to delete it when you sober up.

ITS ALL RELATIVE AND A MATTER OF OPINION. THE SIZE OF FISH IS RELATIVE ONLY TO THE POND.

/Thread

Well virtually every club could be classified as big or small depending on context and this argument about club size/penis size/whose the bigger fan is one of those inevitable internet debates that pops up over and over and never ever becomes interesting.

There are big clubs and there are small clubs. That is a fact. It's quite obvious which is which. And when someone states a club isn't big, when it clearly is, is just daft.

Ok, Sheffield united a big club? Leeds? Sheffield Wednesday? Stoke? Bayern? Ajax? Celtic are pretty irrelevant on the European level and the league is a joke. Would you say Newcastle are a big club? Liverpool? Fan base isn't a good measure imo

Tl will never agree with you and vice versa.

Ok, Sheffield united a big club? Leeds? Sheffield Wednesday? Stoke? Bayern? Ajax? Celtic are pretty irrelevant on the European level and the league is a joke. Would you say Newcastle are a big club? Liverpool? Fan base isn't a good measure imo

Tl will never agree with you and vice versa.

My point is, there are big clubs, and there are small clubs. Aaron's comment about Celtic & Rangers only being big in Scotland is a ridic comment to make.

Why isn't fan base a good measure? Not saying it's the best way to measure by the way.

what a lot of people fail to remember or dont mention about his "good job" at villa is that he had by the time he left and for the majority of his time there the 3rd to 6th biggest wage bill in the league. He signed various players he never really used who were on massive money and which partly has led to lerner cutting down the costs now as it was so unsustainable.

he did a decent job at villa some good jobs before that and is so far doing pretty badly at sunderland

Celtic and rangers are only big clubs in Scotland.

Couldn't disagree more.

They're the weakest they've ever been, but they are huge clubs.

Alex Ferfuson made some real bad signings. Lots of Managers have. Doesn't make them a bad manager.

york city > leeds united

;)

We have been a lot weaker than we are now.

In the modern era?

Celtic and rangers are only big clubs in Scotland.

Fan base is clearly a good measure, not the measure but a good one.

and Celtic are clearly a massive club, you only need to look at any home Champions League match to see that.


In England there are plenty of big clubs outside the premiership and plenty of small ones in. In that, I would argue that fan base is much more important tnat the league you are in to argue which teams are big or not. Not that it matters!

Couldn't disagree more.

They're the weakest they've ever been, but they are huge clubs.

Big/small club discussion is always fairly redundant, as its all relevant.  My football watching life has been the '93-94 onwards, so therefore I can't rate some teams history as highly as for example Tighty can. 

That's a good point, you get the impression that some people think Sky invented football.

That's a good point, you get the impression that some people think Sky invented football.

given the extent of the Scots diaspora it's hardly surprising that the two biggest Scottish clubs have a lot of far flung support.

the aussie and US 'Scots' are more likely to assert their link to the auld country by supporting whichever of the Old Firm best fits their religious and or political sense of themselves.

as for MON, daresay he'll always find a club to employ him but doubt it will ever be a big one in future

Personally think Sky's coverage over the years has been excellent and contributed to the overall success of the PL.

It's a sport tho not a soap opera, you cannot just change the script of football pre 92/93 and act like it didn't happen.

I cannot think of a better example than the insistence that last years top league title was the closest title triumph ever simply because they want to ignore the game pre Prem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_0%E2%80%932_Arsenal_(26_May_1989)

Loved that game. One of the few times I have jumped out my seat, whilst watching as a neutral.

Rangers are at the weakest they have ever been, they went into admin and ultimately liquidation and a new club was formed in the summer that now plays in the 4th tier of Scottish football.

Celtic are in the last 16 of the CL and virtually debt free, we stand to make in the region of €30m from the CLthis season. We operate on a Moneyball type model, buying low and selling high, Wanyama, Forster and Hooper were signed for a combined total of around £5m if we had to sell them we would get around £30m. We do this because of the lack of revenue generated from the SPL, the country that we play in is the only thing holding us back.

If there was a 20 team European League Celtic would absolutely be in it.

It's a sport tho not a soap opera, you cannot just change the script of football pre 92/93 and act like it didn't happen.

I cannot think of a better example than the insistence that last years top league title was the closest title triumph ever simply because they want to ignore the game pre Prem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_0%E2%80%932_Arsenal_(26_May_1989)

O Neil looked shot on MOTD last night, tho the question that annoyed him was pretty crass.

Again that's your opinion. For many, last season would have been the closest ever. Think it's a bad example of sensationalism. Was a pretty incredible end to a very close season

What did they ask him?

Factually last season's was closer. City won it on goal difference

Factually last season's was closer. City won it on goal difference

one of the after match questions was 'do you doubt your own position, are you filled with self doubt'...he composed himself and replied with disdain but was shaken and his lip was quivering.

Christ. Does Shreeves work for more than one channel?

LOL - I was about to post something about the stupid questions he asks players and managers on Sky.

The soundbites he's employed to get is the epitomy of why I dislike Sky.

Why did Sky pull away from the trouble at the end of the Manchester Derby?

Hurts the 'product'.

The soundbites he's employed to get is the epitomy of why I dislike Sky.

The soundbites he's employed to get is the epitomy of why I dislike Sky.

Fan base is clearly a good measure, not the measure but a good one.

and Celtic are clearly a massive club, you only need to look at any home Champions League match to see that.

But this is pretty pointed at all clubs, no? Anyone can have a better atmosphere on a CL match.

What you forget to mention is when there support is pretty poor, apparently they got 15k in a cup match at the weeken? Would these massive clubs ever get 15k in any sort of match?

Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Ajax, Juve, Milan, Inter & others, do they ever get 15k?

The fact is that Celtic are not cared about anywhere other than Scotland.

Chelsea bigger than Celtic? By what measure? It´s just silly.

Aaron Aaron. Are you trying to troll? I'm not sure

I hold no candle for Celtic, but they are massively supported the world over. Huge in America (obv), European supporters clubs, Far East

Genuinely a big big club.

ha, everytime I have an opinion that is not agreed with - I am trolling? ha.

Who is to say there isn't going to be a brilliant atmosphere at other grounds for a CL match?

The fact is that Celtic are not cared about anywhere other than Scotland.

But this is pretty pointed at all clubs, no? Anyone can have a better atmosphere on a CL match.

What you forget to mention is when there support is pretty poor, apparently they got 15k in a cup match at the weeken? Would these massive clubs ever get 15k in any sort of match?

Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Ajax, Juve, Milan, Inter & others, do they ever get 15k?

The fact is that Celtic are not cared about anywhere other than Scotland.

Mwhahahahaha knock yourself out
http://www.celticbars.com/homepage.html

ha, everytime I have an opinion that is not agreed with - I am trolling? ha.

Who is to say there isn't going to be a brilliant atmosphere at other grounds for a CL match?

A list of Celtic bars - Must be massive!

If you would spend a Minute reading the front page then it would tell you more than that.I don't think your a Troll as you ain't clever enough.
Nearly 400 Supporters Club Worldwide but Aaron thinks they ain't cared about outside of Scotland.

A list of Celtic bars - Must be massive!

Ask a random from Japan/Australia?USA/Africa to name 5 big club teams from Europe. I think it's pretty long odds he mentions Rangers or Celtic

Real, Barca, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, Milan, Inter, Bayern etc etc all wayyyyyyyy before Celtic and Rangers.

Fantastic clubs, but not "big" in the same way those I mentioned.

I don't think anyone is arguing that fact, top 20 yes but top 10 is pushing it.If we played in a League with more exposure then we would be pushing on a top 5 Club in Europe.

But this is pretty pointed at all clubs, no? Anyone can have a better atmosphere on a CL match.

What you forget to mention is when there support is pretty poor, apparently they got 15k in a cup match at the weeken? Would these massive clubs ever get 15k in any sort of match?

Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Ajax, Juve, Milan, Inter & others, do they ever get 15k?

The fact is that Celtic are not cared about anywhere other than Scotland.

You are sadly in dreamworld about top 5 clubs in Europe then.

Real, Barca, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juventus, Inter Milan, Bayern & more regardless of what league you are in.

All you keep doing is giving me links to how many fans you have.

You are sadly in dreamworld about top 5 clubs in Europe then.

Real, Barca, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juventus, Inter Milan, Bayern & more regardless of what league you are in.

All you keep doing is giving me links to how many fans you have.

So, Martin O'Neill, job safe?
Decent record as a manager?

So, Martin O'Neill, job safe?
Decent record as a manager?

I don't know why I'm bothering but here goes

The atmosphere generated by the fans in Celtic’s stadium for our visit was the most impressive I’ve ever witnessed. The grounds of Liverpool and Manchester United are good and the hostile feeling of playing against Real Madrid in the Bernabeu is also excellent, but the atmosphere against Celtic was the best.
Xavi (Barcelona) (Sep 2004)

"Every professional footballer should seek to play at least one game at Celtic Park. I have never felt anything like it"
Paolo Maldini (AC Milan & Italy legend)

"Celtic fans are some of the greatest supporters I know," he said.
AC Milan midfielder Clarence Seedorf (Oct 2007)

"The Celtic fans are incredible. It is always great to play there."
Cristiano Ronaldo, Man U (2008)

"When I was at Porto my team also played in the UEFA Cup final against a Scottish side - but it was Celtic. I've never seen such emotional people. It was unbelievable!"
Jose Mourinho (ex-Porto Manager) looking back on thae UEFA cup final 2003 (May 2008)

"It is absolutely spectacular to see the fans like that "
Alberto Gilardino (Italian footballer)

"The Celtic fans are very special and the club and players can be very proud of them. They are the best I have ever heard"
Andres Iniesta (Barcelona Player, Oct 2012) before Celtic 2-1 Barcelona

"I have played many games for Spain/Barca but I've never heard fans like Celtic, they were amazing, not quiet for a single second!"
Andres Iniesta (Barcelona Player, Oct 2012) after Celtic 2-1 Barcelona


Aaron it's fine to have different opinions but you seem to revel in going against the grain on pretty much everything. When you are presented with evidence that contradicts your assertions you don't seem to able to take it on board at all. When you do this repeatedly people just don't respect that opinion.

Now back to celtic :-)

"All you keep doing is giving me links to how many fans you have."


That's the point Aaron. It's a decent measure of how big a club is. Celtic can't control which league they play in, or the strength of those they play in that league but the global supporter base is so big....

A point you don't seem to be willing to accept despite many links of evidence being shown to you

Ps _ I would like to look like MON when I am 60+ :D :D

A club that has loads of fans that makes it massive?

If we go by that example, then we are not far behind them.

A lot more than fans make a club 'big or 'massive' - My point is that there are plenty of bigger clubs than Celtic, they are not massive.

You seem to be missing the point - A great atmosphere makes you a massive club? we are discussin whether Celtic are a big club and you have replied with "atmosphere was great"

what you forget to mention that you apparently massive club got 15k (might not be accurate 100%), but you don't give us that example.

Big club? Perhaps, maybe, not not even close on the "massive" scale.

PS - Not just me saying this.

A club that has loads of fans that makes it massive?

If we go by that example, then we are not far behind them.

A lot more than fans make a club 'big or 'massive' - My point is that there are plenty of bigger clubs than Celtic, they are not massive.

So, Martin O'Neill, job safe?
Decent record as a manager?

to be fair, 3 years ago such a debate would have been deleted in a welter of recrimination, flaming and Scottish Daveness :-)

At least the debate is civil.


Progress

This is hard work, I was answering the specific point about anyone having a better atmosphere at a CL game.

Yes there 15000 at the Arbroath game last week, I'm not sure what your point is there. The average attendance over the last 10 years or so since the stadium was reconstructed is in the mid 50000s. I could dig the actual stats out but I think I would be wasting more of my time.

Is this an attention thing with you btw?

So your only arguement is a crowd of 15k in a Cup match against Arbroath which a lot of fans were Boycotting??

A club that has loads of fans that makes it massive?

If we go by that example, then we are not far behind them.

A lot more than fans make a club 'big or 'massive' - My point is that there are plenty of bigger clubs than Celtic, they are not massive.

Come on Aaron, comparing Wednesday to Celtic is just daft and I'm a Wednesday fan.

Historically Wednesday were a top ten English club. By comparison historically Celtic won the European Cup.

Have a look at their season ticket base and ours.

Honestly mate, I'd stop digging.

No you're forgetting if you ask a random bloke in Europe....

But for a massive club, is it not poor to ever get a 15k attendance at any point, regardless of competition?

Not attention - I just don't agree, this is after all a forum. People moan this forum is dying, then don't like it when people don't agree with each other.

Big club discussion for me is interesting, but is all a matter of viewpoint. People go on different kinds of things, had people tell me Birmingham are a bigger club than Wednesday, then I would say we are bigger or not much smaller than Man City, but they are about to blow us out of the water with success they are getting now.

But you can disagree with me all you want, but the ridic comment here is saying Celtic would be top 5 in a better league?!

Aaron keeps going on about 15k at a match v Div 2 opposition just before a vital CL group match. I'm amazed he knew about it, since he'd not be interested in a small club from Scotland.....

Just the Man.Looking for Ticket for Hibs away for a Family friend over from Ireland if you come across any spare:)

I was just wondering Aaron :-) Of course you can say your opinions but when its so left field I scratch my head and wonder if you are looking for a rise.

I'm not implying lots of clubs won't have great CL atmospheres, so don't twist it

Just genuinely shocked (in a what does it matter anyway kind of way) that you think they aren't a big club! Same goes for Messrs Picken and Langley who think the same.

It depends on the definition. If we use historical data or fan base they are a big prefer some sort of relative ranking of power/success, which means Celtic aren't exactly the biggest about. Mentioning fan base earlier Celtic having support in America was obvious but I'd had ignored. Do they really get support in Asia? I saw man u Chelsea Liverpool Madrid Barcelona arsenal but never Celtic

Furthermore the idea of the number of bars dictating the size of the club is just ridiculous. I mean if get a 100 rovers fans to go and make themed bars will you listen to my arguments that Doncaster is a big club. Celtic have a number of bars because they have had success as a theme, not because the club is big.

Are Leeds/Wednesday and more importantly forest big clubs because of historical performance? Would you agree Porto are a big club? Especially as I imagine they get some interest from south America etc. Benefica as big a club as Celtic? Less bars for sure!

As i pointed out to Aaron when he couldn't be arsed reading the front page it was more to do with the amount of Worldwide Supporters Clubs.

Furthermore the idea of the number of bars dictating the size of the club is just ridiculous. I mean if get a 100 rovers fans to go and make themed bars will you listen to my arguments that Doncaster is a big club. Celtic have a number of bars because they have had success as a theme, not because the club is big.

Are Leeds/Wednesday and more importantly forest big clubs because of historical performance? Would you agree Porto are a big club? Especially as I imagine they get some interest from south America etc. Benefica as big a club as Celtic? Less bars for sure!

It depends on the definition. If we use historical data or fan base they are a big prefer some sort of relative ranking of power/success, which means Celtic aren't exactly the biggest about. Mentioning fan base earlier Celtic having support in America was obvious but I'd had ignored. Do they really get support in Asia? I saw man u Chelsea Liverpool Madrid Barcelona arsenal but never Celtic

But for a massive club, is it not poor to ever get a 15k attendance at any point, regardless of competition?

Not attention - I just don't agree, this is after all a forum. People moan this forum is dying, then don't like it when people don't agree with each other.

Big club discussion for me is interesting, but is all a matter of viewpoint. People go on different kinds of things, had people tell me Birmingham are a bigger club than Wednesday, then I would say we are bigger or not much smaller than Man City, but they are about to blow us out of the water with success they are getting now.

But you can disagree with me all you want, but the ridic comment here is saying Celtic would be top 5 in a better league?!

as a Sunderland fan i hope we dont get rid of him, the squad he has is still the complete dross that Steve Bruce managed to bring in

that said i think the team selections have been terrible this season. Adam John needs to play down the left, we need (i dont know who, maybe conor whickham) playing upfront alongside fletcher, and sessagnon playing deeper so we can actually get some supplies to the strikers. the counter attacking strategy that worked for 10 game last season just isnt working, especially when we decide to concede after 10 minutes in every game.

LOL - Celtic have an estimated 10 million fans in Japan, which is in Asia last time I checked.

That might have dropped since Nakamura left though.... Got a lot of attention/news lately in Thailand as well - mainly through charitable links to a school in Thailand. According to a Rangers fan I know who goes to Thailand regular the Celtic top is commonly seen, as much as Man Utd/Chelsea/Barca/Real.

LOL - Celtic have an estimated 10 million fans in Japan, which is in Asia last time I checked.

There's only 120 million people in Japan so you're saying one in every twelve people support Celtic? Really?

There's only 120 million people in Japan so you're saying one in every twelve people support Celtic? Really?

Celtic football club a real hit with Japanese fans
Published: 16 February 2009 12:00

According to sports marketing agency, SportsRevolution, there are currently over seven million Japanese adults who are fans of Celtic football club – that is two million more fans than there are people in Scotland.

Japanese interest in football has risen since they jointly hosted the 2002 world cup, with South Korea, and when Japanese footballer, Shunsuke Nakamura joined Celtic Football club in 2005 the Glasgow club gained thousands of new fans from Japan. That fan base has been growing ever since and there is even a Japan based fan group – the Tokyo Supporters of Celtic Football Club.

These figures are also backed up by the interest in advertising space at their games. Antony Marcou, Managing Director of SportsRevolution said: “Japan is the most expensive market to advertise in the world. The cost per thousand impacts prohibits many advertisers from targeting Japan properly. Using Celtic's fan base, like Goldsmiths have done, to talk to a Japanese audience is not only innovative but extremely media efficient.”

But why the huge fascination with football and with a UK club? With the latest 0 – 0 result at the Celtic Vs Rangers game last Sunday to reflect upon, we asked experts in the field; Dr Hiroki Ogasawara from Kobe University and Professor Les Back from Goldsmiths, University of London.

Dr Hiroki Ogasawara, Goldsmiths alumnus and current Associate Professor at Kobe University in Japan, comments:

Why do you think so many Japanese football fans support Celtic?
I think that it's solely because of Shunsuke's transfer to Celtic and his good performance on the pitch. And I have to tell you that it's not about Celtic and their history and culture but Shunsuke himself that many Japanese fans are attracted to Celtic. In addition, it's because of the peculiarity of Celtic's cultural syncretism with Irishness. When Japan co-host the world cup in 2002, Irish fans were really great and they left a good legacy as to how to enjoy the game. They behaved well, and made a good effort to link together with Japanese supporters. Celtic's colour appeals to those who have a fond memory of that time.

Okay, I believe you I think.

Going on the demographics of my house, myself, Wife and Daughter, I can confirm that 66% of our household couldn't give a flying **** about Football and I'm only moderately interested for betting purposes.

There's roughly 64 million women in Japan. You reckon over 5 million of them support Celtic?

I did actually read about a reporter who traveled over from Japan to watch Rangers only for the game to be cancelled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2239086/Japanese-journalist-travels-6000-miles-report-Rangers-Elgin-City-game-called-off.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2239086/Japanese-journalist-travels-6000-miles-report-Rangers-Elgin-City-game-called-off.html)

:D

I bet he's not a Rangers fan now, even if he was before!

Surely "big club" definitions should be done on average attendances or number of season ticket holders in the last 10 years?

Not some Japanese housewife who might have Celtic as her 3rd team behind Grampus 8 and Man United?

Obviously Celtic will score well on my definition, as I would agree they are a truely massive club, unfortunately stuck in an uncompetitive league.

"At the same time as Irabu's popularity, Nakata played for Roma and then Parma. His move to Roma was massive news and it seemed like 1 in 5 school-kids had Roma shirts (and the ones who didn't had the Japanese kit with Nakata on the back).  I'm sure Bolton had a popularity surge when Nakata signed for them on loan even though he only scored once or twice."

All true but you are confusing people supporting a player/idol as opposed to any fondness for Roma.  Do you think they still buy the new Roma shirts each year?

Fan = someone who supports a team for an enduring period in my opinion.  Not necessarily who will come to games regularly but will provide revenue for the organistion on at least a sporadic ongoing basis. 

"You've definied a 'customer'."

No - a one off purchase is a customer.  It is the ongoing nature of the custom which makes a fan.

All fans are customers.  Not all customers are fans.

LOL - Celtic have an estimated 10 million fans in Japan, which is in Asia last time I checked.

you dont want him. Said ages ago in the thread he was the most overrated manager of all time, and he still will be

Why sack him ? Fan of his or not no way can they get better.

I don't want Sunderland to go down, finish 17th and we take 6 points and I'm loving life.

MO'N never really done anything since Leicester. Weird because when he talks as pundit he's so good.

John Robertson a massive miss it seems

certainly did 80% of the coaching work at villa

Even though i am not a fan he looks to have last his spark of late and without robertson his "style" is probably nowhere near as effective

Walford does the vast majority of the coaching, Robertson was more of a social convener.

MONs wife was in very poor health when he left Celtic, I'm not sure if that's given him a new perspective, he certainly doesn't seem to have the spark as others have said.

yes that would be a very valid reason obviously

the person who told me that worked with villas younger players so maybe robertson was mainly with them

either way he was an important part of the setup

Really?  The season before he took over at Celtic they finished 21 points behind Rangers.  The next season they won the treble, then retained the title and got to a European final.  He was at Celtic for five years and won 3 titles and came second twice.  He also won the Scottish cup three times.  Then he went to Villa and finished 6th three years in a row and took them to their first final in years.  Not really done much......

MO'N never really done anything since Leicester.

Di Canio confirmed.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/2/8610654/di-canio-named-sunderland-boss

David Miliband resigns as non-exec Director as a result.

Off to a good start then!

Sunderland changing there nickname to The Black Shirts apparently

Sunderland changing there nickname to The Black Brown Shirts apparently

Fyp?
Had to check, SS black, SA brown. Black shirts much better obviously :)

Sunderland changing there nickname to The Black Shirts apparently

;applause;

what exactly did Paulo say to give Milliband the hump

Sunderland need unity and a strong team ethic to survive relegation. Wonder how a director walking out in protest achieves that goal? If he is doing the right thing players who disagree with Di Canio's political comment should refuse to play for him. Perhaps all the players should air their political views in a big debate on the training ground to sort this out. What Sunderland need right now is a team who agree on social and economic issues.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/paolo-di-canio-my-life-speaks-for-me-6273526.html


 a brilliant article which delves beneath the mock outrage of todays headlines and explains a lot more about the man