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George2Loose
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Martin O Neil
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December 08, 2012, 06:16:32 PM »
I know there's been debate about this before.
Is Martin O Neill destined for mediocrity? He has been touted as one of the best footie managers in the past.
He did perform miracles at clubs like Leicester and made Villa competitive too but it all seems to be short lived.
Villa fell from grace quite dramatically. He comes in at Sunderland- again they go on an amazing run.
Now look at them- is the MON effect short lived? Will ever get a "big" job?
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You do know he was Celtic Manager?
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Re: Martin O Neil
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Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Will ever get a "big" job?
statement still stands
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December 08, 2012, 06:31:08 PM »
Villa, he made them competitve as it coincided with Lerner taking over from Ellis and investing money
When O'Neill left when Lerner pulled the funding required to compete for top six, they fell from grace
I am biased, will always be a great in my eyes. What he did at Leicester was incredible
However if he fails at Sunderland which looks likely I do think a top six club type job won't be his going forward
He will always get jobs at mid ranking clubs though
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Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Yeh was Langley said. Think I could manage Rangers or Celtic 5-10 years ago and win the league
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 08, 2012, 06:31:08 PM
Villa, he made them competitve as it coincided with Lerner taking over from Ellis and investing money
When O'Neill left when Lerner pulled the funding required to compete for top six, they fell from grace
I am biased, will always be a great in my eyes. What he did at Leicester was incredible
However if he fails at Sunderland which looks likely I do think a top six club type job won't be his going forward
He will always get jobs at mid ranking clubs though
If Fergie had retired when he first said he was going to, MON would have been odds on to get the job.
A million to one now
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December 08, 2012, 07:12:19 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Yeh was Langley said. Think I could manage Rangers or Celtic 5-10 years ago and win the league
If you were Rangers manager 5 years ago, I'd have my maximum on Celtic to win the league.
And vice versa
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Re: Martin O Neil
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December 08, 2012, 07:19:59 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Yeh was Langley said. Think I could manage Rangers or Celtic 5-10 years ago and win the league
They very nearly won the UEFA cup under him and had a couple of decent other runs in Europe.
His reputation is on the wane but that just shows how fickle football is. He has yet to fail at any club he has been at and certainly at Leicester performed minor miracles.
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Quote from: The Camel on December 08, 2012, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Yeh was Langley said. Think I could manage Rangers or Celtic 5-10 years ago and win the league
If you were Rangers manager 5 years ago, I'd have my maximum on Celtic to win the league.
And vice versa
I'm insulted!
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Re: Martin O Neil
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December 08, 2012, 07:55:19 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on December 08, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Will ever get a "big" job?
statement still stands
It's generally a bad idea to troll about Celtic and The Rangers on this board, things escalate very quickly. You're fairly new on here and probably don't know any better but the last thing most on here want to read is yet another argument oN the size, merits etc. of Celtic compared to medium sized Engliish clubs like Spurs, Newcastle and the like its been done to death on numerous occasions and no one ever changes their view.
MON struggled initially with Villa and then finished in the top 6 every season (I think). Given time Sunderland will be fine but I can't see him getting a big job if we are talking Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea or Arsenal. I thought he would have been a good fit for Liverpool.
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December 08, 2012, 07:57:37 PM »
what a lot of people fail to remember or dont mention about his "good job" at villa is that he had by the time he left and for the majority of his time there the 3rd to 6th biggest wage bill in the league. He signed various players he never really used who were on massive money and which partly has led to lerner cutting down the costs now as it was so unsustainable.
he did a decent job at villa some good jobs before that and is so far doing pretty badly at sunderland
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Quote from: Teacake on December 08, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: TL900 on December 08, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Will ever get a "big" job?
statement still stands
It's generally a bad idea to troll about Celtic and The Rangers on this board, things escalate very quickly. You're fairly new on here and probably don't know any better but the last thing most on here want to read is yet another argument oN the size, merits etc. of Celtic compared to medium sized Engliish clubs like Spurs, Newcastle and the like its been done to death on numerous occasions and no one ever changes their view.
MON struggled initially with Villa and then finished in the top 6 every season (I think). Given time Sunderland will be fine but I can't see him getting a big job if we are talking Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea or Arsenal. I thought he would have been a good fit for Liverpool.
I personally don't see this as trolling? As with most subjects everyone has their own opinion. I wouldn't say Celtic or Rangers are a big club personally but that doesn't mean I'm trolling/right
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December 08, 2012, 08:09:13 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 07:32:33 PM
Quote from: The Camel on December 08, 2012, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Yeh was Langley said. Think I could manage Rangers or Celtic 5-10 years ago and win the league
If you were Rangers manager 5 years ago, I'd have my maximum on Celtic to win the league.
And vice versa
I'm insulted!
The post match interviews would have been fun though.
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Re: Martin O Neil
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December 08, 2012, 08:15:08 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 08:05:05 PM
Quote from: Teacake on December 08, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: TL900 on December 08, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Will ever get a "big" job?
statement still stands
It's generally a bad idea to troll about Celtic and The Rangers on this board, things escalate very quickly. You're fairly new on here and probably don't know any better but the last thing most on here want to read is yet another argument oN the size, merits etc. of Celtic compared to medium sized Engliish clubs like Spurs, Newcastle and the like its been done to death on numerous occasions and no one ever changes their view.
MON struggled initially with Villa and then finished in the top 6 every season (I think). Given time Sunderland will be fine but I can't see him getting a big job if we are talking Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea or Arsenal. I thought he would have been a good fit for Liverpool.
I personally don't see this as trolling? As with most subjects everyone has their own opinion. I wouldn't say Celtic or Rangers are a big club personally but that doesn't mean I'm trolling/right
I quoted TL900s post.
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December 08, 2012, 08:18:04 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 08:05:05 PM
Quote from: Teacake on December 08, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: TL900 on December 08, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Quote from: Snowball on December 08, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
You do know he was Celtic Manager?
Quote from: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Will ever get a "big" job?
statement still stands
It's generally a bad idea to troll about Celtic and The Rangers on this board, things escalate very quickly. You're fairly new on here and probably don't know any better but the last thing most on here want to read is yet another argument oN the size, merits etc. of Celtic compared to medium sized Engliish clubs like Spurs, Newcastle and the like its been done to death on numerous occasions and no one ever changes their view.
MON struggled initially with Villa and then finished in the top 6 every season (I think). Given time Sunderland will be fine but I can't see him getting a big job if we are talking Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea or Arsenal. I thought he would have been a good fit for Liverpool.
I personally don't see this as trolling? As with most subjects everyone has their own opinion. I wouldn't say Celtic or Rangers are a big club personally but that doesn't mean I'm trolling/right
What's your idea of a "Big" Club?
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